[TSW2] Train Sim World just got steam locos... do they suck?
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2022
- Train Sim World 2 finally has some steam engines, in the flavor of the 8F and the Stanier Jubilee thanks to the Train Sim World 2: Spirit of Steam: Liverpool Lime Street - Crewe Route Add-On. Do they suck? No! They're freaking awesome, at least so far. The feel, sounds, and operation seems pretty great so far at this quick first look. Color me surprised and happy thus far, we'll have to keep messing with these. Let me know what you all think :)
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Great Video! Funnily enough, the 8F was recorded off 48305, which is based at the Railway I volunteer on, the Great Central - it’s the only double track heritage mainline in Europe. We also have another 8F, 48624, but that’s undergoing it’s 10 year overhaul atm. Having driven and fired 48305, I must say the sounds are spot on and the way it reacts and feels is a pretty good representation!
That is lovely! Cheers mate, glad to hear. :)
I must say that the chuffing and the steam sounds are on point, I only wish the whistles got more love and attention and variety, but Dovetail is always known for not always making the whistles echo a bit. Nevertheless, though for being the very first pair of steam locomotives, they did a nice job with the modeling and the piston work and all that, they even have the smoke and steam billowing out of tunnels and bridges which lots of train sims often overlook.
So the one thing that I thought was wrong in operation on here - I thought it was bad form to operate with a wide regulator and very narrow cut off because the gear would rattle. Below 30% should both not come back?
@@frozone-yeah Mate I go to the great central all the time!By far one of the best heritage railways in the world
@@10astudios66 Ah man really? Lucky you. I wish I could go. The last time I saw a steam locomotive was when I traveled from California to New York along the way we stopped at a place called Abilene Kansas and saw the ASTF 3451 and just before that while traveling I saw a glimpse of the Cumbres and Toltec Narrow Gauge railroad and that was it. I really wish I could see more steam trains in my life. My mother took me on a trip to the Arcade and Attica railway over in New York to hopefully ride behind their steam locomotive, but of course, it was down for repairs at the time and routine maintenance inspections. Just my luck that I hardly run into any steam when I try all that I can to do so; they just restored the R&N 2102 and that locomotive looks and sounds beautiful. So my next best option is restoring to train sims. I guess you could say that's why I give Train sim world 2 such tough love when it comes to the overall quality of their delivery on my favorite kind of locomotive because that's basically all I have besides watching someone else lucky enough to catch one of those Iron Horses on video. 😞
One of the cool things is that they plan to do a Fireman update in the future so you can have an AI driver while you play as the Fireman.
That will be neat! Hopefully not as another DLC.... lol
@@Hyce777 Knowing dovetail That wouldn’t be out of the question lol
@@H.O.Scalemodeler4501 more like it won't be a question
@@LilScrewmatic Well it’s just a joke. Yes update is confirmed but dovetail has done some things in the past.
@@Hyce777dovetail is capable of doing new DLCs about fireman clothes xD
One thing about how much track there is in the yards, this route is set in 1958, so before the "Beeching Axe" of the early 60s, which cut a lot of Britain's rail network as a cost saving measure. Countless branch lines and large yards were torn up and the yards that were left shrunk throughout the 60s-80s as efficiency in the railroad and competition from trucking grew.
They need to add a modern merseyrail route
Through Ellesmere Port to Liverpool Central, and all the other routes
Railway*
Hyce “what’s this thing”
“Oh it’s a British thing” lol
Flying Scotsman and mallard would be amazing
UK semaphore signals were originally up for danger, down for clear. But during a blizzard one year a signal at danger was forced down by the weight of snow and ice built up on the signal arm. This ended up causing a major accident, so it was reversed for safety going forward.
What was the name of the accident?
@@wolfboy20 the Abbots Ripton Rail Disaster
@@musclecat1005 Thank you!!!
Sounds were recorded on a pair of heritage locomotives, sadly heritage lines are limited to 25mph, so it's hard to get genuine high speed running. Though the Jubilee was recorded on a main line excursion, so they could get the recording with a high speed run. And yes, there were no cab lights, so the inventive crew would use a spare marker light at night.
No-one:
Hyce when he hears a British whistle: AW HECK NAW
I really don’t know too many people who actually like British whistles lol
It does do the purpose of, "annoy the fuck out of anyone who's nearby", so, fair, but... c'mon
Well it usually to actually grab your attention because it annoys you, but whistles like on the A4 with its dual tone can be nice. If you don't blast full steam pressure through them
@@Hyce777 Hyce this isn't what a Stanier Whistle sounds like. Generally you get the sound that it does when there is too much steam being push through the whistle. Stanier Whistles are characteristic of being the closest thing to American "Hooter" whistles as possible without actually being one. I don't know what the Dev's where doing when they modelled the sound that it is, or just the Fireman is really shit at his job.
They have the sound a real proper and respectable steam locomotive should have. However, this one is a bit too low pitched for the usual style.
I saw 'do they suck' in the title and immediately thought "Well, I sure hope they do! How else would you use the vacuum brakes?"
There's a UA-camr called History In The Dark who does a lot of railroading history. He also slams the book on British Rail quite often because, you know, they kinda 'modernized' British railroads by scrapping the reliable steam engines and replacing them with (mostly) crappy diesels that broke down half the time.
I like him, but I would recommend that he get a slightly better mic!🤣
@Kibou TS Yep, love his videos and can't help but laugh at how hard he slams the book on British Rail every time it pops up.
@Kibou TS me to
"Is this British or wrong" Oh Hyce, you cant have British without wrong.
There is the wrong way and then the British way. Everything else is uncultured and irrelevant ;)
lmao
Ethaniel, I agree
It's funny watching Americans be completely oblivious to the fact you guys are the laughing stock of the world...
I’m british and I smell disrespect
on these class of locomotives, its the radius rod that moves, not the 'banana'. the rod doesn't move that much. in this addon, that is all simulated correctly. and yes, i would LOVE to see more of this on your channel.
cylinder cocks in britain act like that. ps: ill be editing this as the video plays.
the reason the 8f's chuffing sounds a bit weird above 20mph is because the railway where they recorded the sounds at had a 20 mile speed limit, so they had to make it up themselves.
i would tell you more but theres 13 mins of video left an i dread how muchi would have to write. one last thing, the whistles are beautiful. but please tell me if you liked it.
Didn’t they do the sounds on the great central
I did like it! I would be happy to play this some more on the channel. The radius rod in walschaerts doesn't move much, but it does move, though not in center which was what threw me off in the moment. I realized later they got it good, which is awesome.
And interesting - I knew they shot forwards, but they're always running except when a valve event happens? Ours alternate between power stroke sides. I'd be curious to get a better explanation. And, that makes sense... high speed recording and making it make sense without manipulating the recording is a royal pain. Believe me, I've messed with it... haha
Both ends of the cylinders cylinder cocks are opened together and they are both piped forwards to the same place so the only time nothing would be shooting forwards would be when no steam at all is being admitted to the cylinder so during a valve event
@@danieleveritt4086 makes sense, thanks :)
@@oliverschofield6396 yes.. DTG recorded sounds from 48305, the GCR’s 8F
The tie thing is very real - by the 60s it was kind of acceptable to forgo it if you were a driver on a small country branch, but on the mainline, a tie was required. Most of the time it didn't need to be mandated, as it was a personal pride thing too - one sees people working in factories in the UK wearing ties in the 20s and 30s.
Don't worry Hyce, we'll have you drinking tea and driving on the left in no time! 😄🇬🇧
I always find it odd how much you dislike the British high-pitched steam whistles XD
As a Brit myself, I can't imagine a train whistle sounding any other way! Still, I imagine the high pitched shrieking sounds as strange to you as the deeper whistles in the US sound to me! I do confess that the deep roar of your American whistles is bloody awesome though!!
I've always likened the difference to...
British whistle: "Oh, do pardon me old chap but, just making my way through... Cheerio!".
American whistle: "Hey yo, get outta the way... I'm comin' through here!"
rolmao
I agree. Can’t beet the sound of steamie whistle
I’m surprised they didn’t make this sooner . But do you know how to get the steam trains on x box 1
I always thought of it as British whistles scream “GET OUT OF MY WAY!” like a child, while American whistles sing it in a low mellow voice.
Hi Hyce, not trying to nitpick or anything, but just thought I'd mention a couple tips on using the vacuum brake.
When you make an application, you need to put the valve back over into the running position, as if you leave the valve in apply the vacuum will keep draining until it hits zero, which is the brakes hard on in emergency.
The trick to keeping a specific level on the vacuum gauge is to walk the valve back and forth and take "puffs" on the line, as with the ejector on the vacuum will start to rise again. If it's going up too quickly, you can turn the ejector down a little.
Vacuum brakes are fairly touchy, so it's best to apply the brakes slowly an inch or two at a time (nice thing is you can ease off if you've took too much off).
Here's a little chart to give equivalents to air brake settings.
21 in. =Release
17 in.=Trim Application
15 in. = Normal Service Application
10 in. = Full Service
5 in. = Suppression
0 in. =Big Hole 'Em!/ Emergency (The Brits call this "coshing it"]
Another thing to bear in mind that goods trains were often unfitted, or partly fitted with power brakes, so you need to start getting on the vacuum early (different classes of trains often were limited to speeds lower than track speed, depending on how many wagons had power brakes to ensure they could stop in time for signals).
Just to make things difficult, the GWR/British Rail's Western Region locos go up to 25 inches of mercury instead of 21. So that meant the train crew had to go along the train pulling the cords to the vacuum cylinders to bleed them off and re-establish the maximum, otherwise the loco taking over for the western engine wouldn't be able to fully release the brakes.
Someone in my discord mentioned that I had no idea how it worked, and gave a brief explanation of what you just talked about. Thanks for the detailed response :)
@@Hyce777
No problem. If you ever get into driving old British diesel railcars (say on Diesel Railcar Simulator) it's a bit easier as they have a lap position.
Took me a while to figure out vacuum myself, it's certainly got a learning curve on it.
11:01 Sand Patch was released with the game's launch, and hasn't been updated too much since, not to metion it was a rehash of the original version in the first TSW. This, however, feels like they put their heart and soul(well, at least a little bit) into the product, mainly because this is steam's first appearance in the game series, and they wanted to make it good.
Please check out the worst winter scenario I'd love to see you tackle crappy British weather, also if you have a poke about in the settings you can tweak the fireman to give yourself more control over things like dampers and injectors.
I live near Runcorn and that level of detail of the bridge over the River Mersey is fantastic, especially the old transporter bridge to the east (no longer around). It looks very accurate historically.
Dang it, I might finally have to get TSW2 to give this a try… next time it goes on sale maybe I’ll have a look. High speed mainline steam is always interesting. Uk signals are always fun, usually the braking distances are super tight, so you make the entire run on the edge of your seat. That freight train at the beginning probably didn’t have any train brakes, which is why you slid right through the station. I can’t imagine how bad those things must shake at speed, modern diesels still give you a pounding above 45 or so. There’s a great documentary, I think it’s called “Driving and Firing” or something, in it this old driver goes into detail about all sorts of neat British railway stuff. If i can find it, I’ll put the title in here.
All the sounds and particle effects are linked to physics. So the chuffs sound when they should and the steam puffs appear when they should. You can switch to manual firing and then you can control when the fireman adds coal, as well as having control over the dampers and blower.
In this mode, the fireman will only add coal if you open the fire door. He will stop when you close it.
F5 to turn off the HUD. Settings to customize it.
My only major complaint is that I wish the whistles had some variety like between the Jubilee and the 8F's. Maybe have the Jubilees with the lower pitch hooter whistles and the 8F's the higher pitch since they mainly handle the freight services. All I'm saying is that there is quite a bit of whistle variety for these British class LMS locomotives and while the whistle is not terrible, they could have done without the constant shrieking of both locomotives, whistle squeaks do not persist all the time in real life on steam locomotives, only when water and soot and other impurities are caught within the pipe when the whistle hasn't been blown in a while so they definitely recorded some stock whistle noise or one of those whistles that you see in videos where it is not connected to a locomotive but rather a steam piping system and they blow it to get the noise recorded and that's it. Apologies for ranting and rambling about this as I know this is a nitpick, but I think Dovetail Games and train horns and whistles just aren't their specialty at least for Train sim world in my opinion. The locomotives do look great though.
In Europe overall there were stricter uniform codes than in the US. Here in Sweden you'd have a black cap with a winged wheel, the national cockade and gold bands to signify your rank on the state railroad (you'd have 3 bands as an engineer), and you'd wear a thin black longcoat with gold buttons. The coat was simply a cover for your normal clothes, usually trousers with white shirt and bowtie. Gloves were not worn, not even by firemen.
Private companies would have their own cap insignias and an enamel button in place of the cockade, but the styling was usually the same. From what I've heard, uniforms were supplied by the company and was company property, unlike in the States where the employee had to supply their own workwear.
Britain I asume was much the same for its companies and nationalized network, the fact the driver is missing his greasetop cap with the British Railways badge makes me sad. :c
EDIT: These two videos show the operation of British steam well, explained by the very experienced driver Clive Groome.
ua-cam.com/video/1coPT7D6p4U/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/HuyWALEnopo/v-deo.html
I really like the floating UI, maybe thats could be added to RRO. It could Max range of Movement off different controls, etc. And rather than looking in the corner of the screen, having different readouts appear by the curser in the middle of the screen.
Working injectors will be included in the firing update. They have to model them with simulated fluid so it’s taking them a while to get it working right
Well that ought to be neat!
@@Hyce777 it’s pretty neat to have a sim using actual steam based physics instead of just being a model with scripts, they’ve even modelled the firebox to have hotspots and so on. DTG have definitely stepped up their game since Sand Patch Grade.
Great video! It actually looks way better than I expected, now I'm very interested in how the Jubilee will drive.
The valve gear animation is cool I was worried that they didn't animate it, because it's supposed to be a high quality game.
"Is this British, or is it broken?"
That cracked me up.
We have an old saying here in germany:
"Schief ist Englisch, und Englisch ist modern." "Crooked is english, and english is modern (a la mode)."
Origin: British WW2 soldiers wore skewed berets.
Very happy to see you finally get into some British locomotives :3 Would love to see more of this!
I was waiting for this since the teaser trailer dropped. I was fully expecting for you to shred it to bits, but I'm glad to know it's Hyce-approved! May grab it for myself as a fan of TSW2.
I seriously hope they do some superpower locos, like the Daylight, or Hudsons
They finally got steam which is fantastic and well done
Now they just need to do what they promised back in train sim world which was multiplayer
Would love to see more of this. Might be worth checking some of the forums or tsw2 videos as there are different firing modes you can run, a few bugs hanging about, and in some of the scenarios there are unfitted wagons between the loco and vacuum braked wagons so you need to individually drain/fill their brake reservoirs but of course the game doesn't tell you that...
Another great vid! I think they're onto a winner with this one. I'm hoping they will flesh out the fireman and water simulation side of things more. But in the meantime, the driving aspects though, the head-shake, the apparent steam pressure simulation, all seems on-point! The sounds themselves seem quite rich too. I.e. you definitely know when the cylinder drains are open lol. I only just got the DLC this weekend and already having a blast 😎
I saw on a documentary that the uniforms while driving are a image for the company thing, like the drivers are the face of the company that's why they wear suits caps etc.
I know some railroads in the states do this too, or at least have some sort of "cleanliness" requirement. One I'd never meet... lol!
I used to live in Runcorn where the first run was set and from my memory the line seem to be modelled really well. I'd definitely like to see more as its going to be interesting to see what's been modelled in Liverpool as there's quite a bit around there that no longer exists.
I volunteer at a railway in the UK and the rolling stock in the yards seem to be typical for the era when this is set. I like watching your videos as Its pretty interesting hearing how differently things are done across the pond.
Cheers :)
Oh wow looks much better than I expected, might have to pick it up myself, and great video! At 17:30 I'm pretty sure the green was in the middle as it is a distant signal, the top and bottom aspects would be amber. On a home signal the green aspect is ordinarily at the top.
Interesting, that's a neat aspect setup.
It is a pretty nice DLC sounds and looks great thanks for showing it :)
It definitely will slip if you pull a bit hard at very low speed. Especially if it is rainy weather.
Thanks for reviewing. I was skeptical it was just going to be TS 2022 with better graphics, but this will being going on my wishlist.
Im glad to see TSW got it right on their first steam line. I am going to pick this up! Thanks for the content! :)
Dovetail seem to have issues on this front but they seemed to do a cracking job this time! Good on them!
Even that little bit of steam/smoke coming out of the stack is correct. When the throttle was properly set you wouldn't see much coming out if the stack. If you see a crap ton of smoke that means you're wasting a bunch of coal and energy. Little and often as UK firemen say.
to turn off hud is f1 im pretty sure. this was fun to watch as you actually operate steam locomotives in real life and know the inside and out of one. hope you make more vids
this is really nicely done....i was kinda expecting it to be half-assed but nope....also watching the steam chest gauge freak the fuck out is kinda funnee
I'm glad you gave us a perspective of the TSW2 steam locos from experience with Railroads Online, which had such a detailed steam driving experience first! Railroads Online even did manual firing first!
lol, the RO! operational side is nowhere near accurate yet... hopefully someday
Thank you so much as soon as you tried tsw2 i wanted you to do the steam locos
*pulls whistle to find it's a hooter*
"okay, we'll not touch that ever again"
same, Hyce... same
A fun fact about british railroading: It was commonplace to add a tea bag to the tender and the occasional biscuit to the coal. Steam locomotives are living beasts after all.
A fun fact about me: I don't actually know anything about british railroading.
Lol! Well, I'd believe it. Each of our locomotives has their preferred liquor...
You’ll have to take a look at the map to really see how much track there is, it’s quite insane
I had been watching my friend play this all week and was so glad to finally be able to play it myself today
Can’t wait for them to announce the add on steam locomotives, I would like to see an A4 or the A3 flying Scotsman
idk if this is just a British thing or not, but I've heard that a lot of crews back in the day if they were in steam and stopped at a signal or siding would cook on the footplate. They'd use their slack pipe (hose running off the injectors) to wash off the shovel and use the heat of the firebox to cook bacon, eggs and other food. The funny thing is that the railways absolutely hated this, and went as far as to drill holes in the shovels so they couldn't be used as pans. So if you ever see pictures of railway shovels with lots of holes in them, that's why.
Happened in Ireland too. In fact, on the line from Harcourt Street Station in Dublin to Bray, County Wicklow there was a fishmonger who would head into Dublin once a week but couldn't afford the price of the ticket. She gave the station master and loco crew a couple of fish to 'pay' for her ride into the city. The crew would cook theirs on the shovel for their breakfast before setting off.
Yep, and ive heard live fish in the water tanks were common as it cleaned the tank and was edible too
Also, UI tip for TSW, if you see red zig-zag lines on either side of the speed in the lower part of the hud, that means your wheels are slipping.
Not British, but we have the same habit of changing clothes here in Denmark before going out for the day. Boiler suit or overalls during fire up and oiling, then into a period-correct outfit after breakfast, before heading out for the day. It helps keep the clothes for running looking nice-ish when you grab the guests at the first stop. By the time you let them off and look dirty, then they know and can see you've done some shoveling!
One channel i enjoy watching is rediscovering lost railways about abandoned british rail lines. Dam the beeching axe! lol
Another good one is bennet brook railway.
Hy there, I am a volunteer at a Belgian preserved railway we have 2 births locomotives. For us Europeans it is pretty weird to see that American engines and also the crew are always dirty. In the morning when we light the fire for the day the first thing we do when all the checks are done and the fire is lit is cleaning the engine. The paintwork, the braces and so on. We like to work in a clean environment and we are proud of our engines and yes we change our clothes when we are taking the engine of Ched.
I hope this was a bit useful. Have a great day!
That's very useful! And understandable, and desireable... we've just never had the chance to do that. lol!
@@Hyce777 you clean the engine at the beginning of the day and at the end. So a minimal of 2 times. But most of the time even between the runs. Is mutch more fun if everything you tutch is not full of coal and oil. Because we don't work with gloves. Only a rag for the warm bits lol.
@@yannickjacobs1203 that's another thing I don't get... what's wrong with gloves? lol
@@Hyce777 if you touch the controls with dirty gloves it gets dirty again. 😂
Amazing route and train, really raised the bar with this one.
You can turn the HUD of by pressing F1 and you can set the fire in the controls to supported and manuel.
Then you have to open the fire-door and your co. Worker will put coal in.
How much you want to bet Hyce is going to use the livery designer and create a D&RG consolidation look alike
lol, that'd be a bit cursed
I have a feeling the valve gear isn't fully animated on "non-player" locomotives, possibly for game performance reasons.
Apparently the colour light signals with the green aspect in the middle are distant signals only, they can show 1 or 2 yellows, or a green aspect, it makes sense having the two yellows separated.
Interesting, that's a neat tidbit - and I'd wager you're correct on the valve gear piece.
@@Hyce777 a lot of animation and controls aren’t simulated on A.I trains, rather they quite literally drag the train along instead of operating it.
@@LouisMcNabb interesting.
That's one of the things that makes vacuum brakes inferior, it takes about 1 second per wagon to fully apply (as opposed to instantaneous air brakes).
That’s some great videos training drivers how to drive the first DMU on UA-cam. A class 101. It has a lot of British BR culture in it.
In modern diesel and electric locos it’s not unheard of to still have a hot plate so you can make a cup of tea while you drive. Though I don’t think they are on the REALLY modern ones.
19:33 F1 for hud off
Games seems really fun and I look forward to seeing more of it in the future.
excellent :)
Hey hyce at 3:58 on the loading screen it's probably something you didn't notice but I sure did. The screenshot of the green bridge in the background well I've been over that bridge many times and it's not green it use to be it's now red. Just thought I let you know 😁. I get excited when I see things I'm familiar with.
Great job dude. Woot woot! ; }
For a nice little insight into running British steam and a bit of its history, I recommend watching the "Driving and Firing" series.
I would watch more TSW steam locomotives! Especially if they model an Allegheny Class H-8 2-6-6-6 *Coughstrongerthanthe"BigBoy"Cough* later down the line!
Oh lordy, if only... Allegheny deserves more love and attention. I don't know of any sim that implemented it.
on a video of the developers testing the game they said they went to a railway with an 8f to record sounds but they were only able to record at 25 mph, so i think thats why the sound is a little off.
It's a shame that they don't have full firing simulation yet, but from what they said on their stream it will be a free upgrade once they work it out to make it as realistic as possible, or so they claim. But they seem to have gotten a good start on the driving and whatnot. The sounds were recorded from preserved 8F and Jubilee locomotives so I am glad they turned out so nice.
that would be great! And, that's cool. Seems like a good effort went into this. I am pleased.
It's so cool to see my home city represented :D I wish we'd get merseyrail though
So cool. I love running British steam locomotives.
Hyce the fireman, once he appeared, is going to send you a bill from his chiropractor for putting the engine into a hunger-fest for coal on multiple occasions XD.
Hope he didn't mind your jokes either
That 'tree' of signals before the 15 limit at 23:10: This is route-based signalling. The tallest set (home and distant) show the indication for the main line; signals to either side, and lower, are for diverging routes in the respective directions.
So home 'clear' (or 'off') and distant at 'danger' (or 'on') *on the left* is the equivalent of a yellow (i.e. you may pass this signal but the next one is red), *for the diverging route to the left* (into the yard). With your route knowledge IRL, you would know that that particular diverging route has a 15 mph speed limit.
It kind of follows the US approach of "it's only red if it's all red" so is a little bit like a 3-head searchlight, but which one is not red shows the route you're taking rather than the impending speed limit directly. In some cases the 'not red' may even be a 'shunt' signal on the ground.
Also: at about 26:40, did the smoke actually get deflected by the bridge rather than just passing through it?home home
love how Hyce kept saying "give it a little bit of vacuum"... and then proceeds to dump all the vacuum XD
Yup, i didn't understand how it works nearly well enough. I've since been educated.
It would be cool to see you attempt an intermodal train on Sherman Hill.
I love the steam trains just wish they would give us more and would really love to see some American locos like the clear creek narrow gauge from train sim . Also some big freighters like bigboy or challenger.
Crewe was my station when I was younger. Weird to see its digital facsimile. ♥️
I love how the game puts the routes in their hay day years, 1958 for this one
So as an explanation of why the Johnson bar looked like it didn’t work initially: the AI is magic. It’s apparently too good to use the reverser, so they just somehow will the locomotives to move. Which results in the Johnson bar being at neutral when the AI trains pass by
Don't you dare insult British signals when yours involve counting diagonal dots with arbitrary codes that change depending on where you are 😛
And once again you're driving Midland engines! Although this time you don't have a choice lol. The chuffs seem to cut out really harshly - and I'm not really a fan of the particle effects either. You can turn the sight glasses to see them better I believe.
There isn't as much activity as there would be in real life - the limited variety of locos is the cause of this. You'd have allll kinds of tank and smaller tender engines running around, on local passenger and shunting jobs. Yeah, there's a lot of yard in that area, Edge Hill and Speke Jct. Loco Depots make up a lot of it, being right in the industrial north you need the shunting space.
The reason you take so long to stop on the vacuum is because half the wagons don't even have automatic brakes - at the top of a grade you might set some handbrakes manually but otherwise they will just roll around like Robbo at a Talyllyn Railway barbeque.
Oh yeah our engineers do change their overalls between 'lighting up' and leaving the shed, at least in preservation. In Victorian days, Engine-men and Fire-men would wear _white_ fustian trousers, as it was a hard wearing fabric and easy to clean. Different Companies had different uniforms but looking at old photos (I can send in several) you can spot the white trousers easily.
And stop complaining about the whistles, they're a warning device, they don't need to sound good - I like the single-note ones, any-way. We Brits invented them, the story being that a cart of eggs was run down on a crossing at Bagworth. Not necessarily true but oft-repeated. The earliest ones were more like trumpets, and created so grand and impressive a noise as to draw people towards the train rather than away!
Hey don't lump me in with the east coast dotted madness! Lol.
Thanks for the great comment... and white trousers? good heavens.
Omg I can't wait for this
"...interlocking tower...", *agressive twitching*
No, bad Hyce, its a signalbox.
"What is a signal bungalow?" lol
why must they all be called signal boxes... lol
@@Hyce777 It's a box so you can lock signalmen away from civilised company. Don't want them to be more annoying than they already are.
It looks and feels fantastic, but hopefully, they'll implement a bit of "resource management" (boiler and tender water levels, coal and steam usage) later on.
Agreed.
NICE!
Fire doors were/are operated by hand on British steam locos.
Note that the UI speed limits are not fully accurate for freight, as in reality they would have different max allows speeds for tonnage(?) or some such.
So we do wear prep overalls and then change to go out on the engine... We also take soap and water on the engine to be able to stay clean... We also have a take off pipe of the injector to keep the footplate clean (basically a hot water slacker pipe). This lets us hose the coal down as well (very important when going backwards!)
Also, 8Fs (and any freight engine like that) are very very sure on their feet. You can drive them hard off of a start and they won't slip in dry conditions
Also, you must know the tray above the firehole door is the tea tray... Got to keep it warm! The auto fireman is rubbish though... I'm looking forward to the manual fireman (which is coming). Like you say. They don't know the road!
We also have a deck hose in the states. :)
I wonder if there's any tea in the mash can!
Wow o gotta say Mark that is pretty neat now we just need some USA steam in this game lol. Will you be playing any more of this just wondering? Jeff aka MW611J.
Hoping so!
I'm gonna start meticulously studying steam locomotives just so i can know what exactly hyce is cackling at.
Lol at 31:30 all I think of Ghostbusters episode "oblivion" Casey Jones saying "coal, more coal"
Was it just me or was the in game sounds a bit loud? I love the amount of sounds this game has, but I do enjoy hearing you speak.
This one was a little hot on game sound for sure. Pain in the ass to level set sometimes, lol.
In the LMS Jubilee there is a control underneath the fireman's seat called the exhaust injector trim valve. What does this do?
Look at the size of those drive wheels! Holy crap
Yeah, the Jubilee has 81" drivers!
30:25 Oh by the way. In TSW and in 2, when you see the Wavy Red lines around your Speed on the Hud, that means you're wheel slipping.
Lol, thanks.
All the Reverser does on a British locomotive is determine how hard you want the fireman to work :P
That is true for any steam loco, LOL!
that should be a category if you do another jeopardy, "Broken or British".
I love it
Neat!
A regulator is not a throttle, they are different mechanisms. The narrator said that the regulator acts as a throttle to simplify it for people not as knowledgeable in the engineering world.
5:37 beginning of tutorial
11:40 signel tutorial
13:20 prep for movement
13:45 start moving
27:00 final free play