It's real bad when OG MSTS had better gameplay than this...and that came out...what...2001? ...and Train Sim World 2 is CRAZY expensive for what it is! I am so glad I spent money on Railroads Online instead of this.
The valve has to be cut in via the PMD hot keys (buttons along bottom of dash screens) just as well as turning on banking comms (off by default, which remotely runs the rear units as if you're operating them) then doing the full set and release on both the train brake and the independent, at least in my case it makes sure everything releases since I don't roll with the AWS, because I'm always between the head locomotive and the trail locomotive (on the lead end when doing the shunting in yards)
P.S. the EMD (aka Dash 8's) valves gotta be in freight for them to release (previous comment was posted when I was halfway through, this one is after watching to end) but yeah, welcome to the world of TSW2.... where EVERYTHING isn't incorporated into the tutorials (braking systems, air valves, which setting for the cut-ins, etc...) otherwise another awesome video Hyce!
@@bigdikboiCJ independent needs to be cut in, it’s down on the bottom of the control stand, it’s a 3 position valve, Lead or dead, Trail 6-26 or trail 24, has to be set in Lead or Dead as it’s typically set for trail 6-26
I think you forgot that this sinulator has to appeal to every interested person, and for it to be approachable, some finer details have to be ignored, this simulator is very realistic from a lay mans point of view. The tutorial was fairly good, some or the other thing was missed which is still excusable. I reallt feel you were totally unpleasant towards the game. There are a lot of people like me who yearn to play these kind of simulators someday.
The independent brake needs cutting in via the MU-2A valve. In this game always assume NOTHING is set up and do a full check of everything before you set off
Also no PTC on sand patch grade unfortunately. The PCS does work however you need to turn the "safety devices" switch on in the cabinet. Any safety system in this game is off by default so new players aren't just sitting there wondering why their train won't move
@@Hyce777 engineers who think the train's gonna be parked idling for hours on end with no use (just assuming at this point honestly) for possibly a few days, I know in my area the locomotives can be parked for 5 days, *STILL* chugging away heartily.
@@Hyce777 Everything tends to be cut out as if it's a trailing unit. Makes it easier when multiple locos spawn coupled together they don't all try to have control over the brakes
"Oh its CSX, why isn't is derailed, isn't that required?" Best line ever Hyce LOL. The 38-3 is a CSX only modification, the -2 is still the "newest"...like 70 years old newest, setup LOL.
You need to cut in the mu2a valve for the independent (it's tucked down around the corner under the independent stand) its a common problem because the game never tells you how to do it
@@yrntaffeta7004 I work for the railway in nsw Australia and have to slug up a 3% mainline grade every other shift, and the others are out in the rolling hills of 2-2.5% so I only every see decent speed downhill
Unfortunately the sand patch scenarios are not the best - in that last one, the MU2A valve had to be set, and you had to set the switches yourself. I suggest trying out the Clinchfield Railroad route, as it gives you access to EMD F-7 A and B units, high tonnage and steep grades. It is quite fun when you get the hang of it. One thing I realised is that this game needs patience and you need to check almost everything yourself. The independent brakes do usually always work, by the way, I just believe some tutorial scenarios are broken.
I don't think any game has really accurately represented the way EMDs throttle up and its always been the main disappointment for me with train sims because I love that noise so much. The second you move that lever in real life, that engine speeds up quickly and DRAMATICALLY, revs a tiny bit past where its set to, and then settles down to a constant speed as you hear the load increase and see the exhaust smoke thicken. One of the best sounds known to man is a roots blown EMD throttling up. If one cant appreciate this sound, theres something wrong with them mentally 😂 A minute and a half into this video below is exactly what im talking about; You might appreciate this one, Hyce. Reminds me of a big old GM v8 like in your GTO. My favorite video for EMD sounds. An old high hood GP-9 being worked hard kicking cars in the yard, filmed from above so you can really hear that exhaust. I watch this at least once a month 😂 ua-cam.com/video/mQ-A8blvDlU/v-deo.html
Glad you checked this game out! I do quite a lot of modding for it (mainly the British content) The route your checking out is actually the first route ever released so its pretty old and as you've seen lacking. The newer routes fare much better in comparison. If your looking for a challenge id really recommend the Sherman Hill route as long as you don't mind waiting 10 minutes for the brakes to release!
Introducing Train Sim World 2!: Now featuring fancy brand new magic air brakes and magic auto-connecting air hoses!!! (disclaimer: the independent brakes don't work and some other magic brake is always on, we're not quite sure what it is)
Let's hope some uncouth jabronie didnt leave a massive crap in the toilet. You read my mind. I was watching some other videos of this and thought "I wonder what Hyce would say about this." You did not disappoint. :)
One of my biggest pet peeves with sim tutorials is when they LOCK THE DAMN CONTROLS. Especially when you can't finish the tutorial because one of the controls is locked when it shouldn't be. You should try Run8 next
Some additional Tips the game doesn't reveal in the Tutorials or Key Bindings. 1) You can make extensive use of the 9 Key to make aligning switches a lot easier since it shows you the path in Light Blue that you need to run on. Click on the Triangle Icon on the Map to change a switch. You can also press 8 and free fly to the switches to set them if you want. 2) You can switch between Cabs without leaving the Engineers seat using Ctrl + = or Ctrl + - on the Keyboard(not Keypad). 3) Also Ctrl + 0 will return you to the last used Engineers seat if you leave the loco. There is a distance limitation to that though, so don't wander too far if you want to quick travel back to the Cab. Edit: Oh and one last thing, that Roll away you had... 3 Step my friend, 3 step!! Or at least 2 Step it. lol
I've sent your video to the preserved content team at DTG. Have a look at the newer routes, they're getting better on the realism in recent times. Not exactly like actual trains but much better from a game play perspective.
TSW2 is my favourite simulator! I was excited to watch this. Played this on Xbox One when I had GamePass, and shall purchase it soon. The independent works on the Xbox One version. My guess would be you didn't set up the MU-2A valve on the trailing unit, like a lot of others are saying. And the magic of the auto brake setting the handbrakes on the cars... I'll have to verify if it does that on the Xbox One version, because I don't recall it doing that. I used to do a lot of switching on it with the SD40-2 in the semi-'free play' scenario, like A LOT of switching- Love the video! I was secretly hoping you'd stumble upon TSW2, I'd love to see more videos on it!
LOL, been playing the piss out of this while waiting for Spline update Edit: For what it's worth, the Horse Shoe Pass DLC has much more fleshed out Tutorials. The Sand Patch module is old as dirt and a carry over from TSW2020. Needs lots of TLC.
2:20 not even gonna lie, i was playing Immersive Railroading on minecraft and thaats the FIRST thing i did when i spawned diesel locos: 1:toilets? no 2: modeled engine? yea
Watching you dunk on TSW2 was the funniest thing in a while. Regarding the end of the video, I knew this would happen, I did the exact same thing. I fought the brakes were correctly setup, and so I though the switches were...
i love this game i think the independent brakes being locked is a tutorial thing because ive tried a schedule (a non tutorial run) and the brakes work just fine but other than that its a pretty good game and even better may 31st will be releasing a steam locomotive dlc with a route called Spirit Of Steam Crewe-Liverpool Lime Street its pretty cool dlc by the looks of things
Train Sim looks a lot better with re-shaders like railworks enhancer and seems still be a better game as far as the game play goes depending on the DLC. But I don't run the real thing so that's why I'm here so I have some semblance of how the real deal runs. Run 8 is supposed to be the most realistic simulator regarding train operations if you ever want to give that one a try.
This game is really stale in my opinion, it's a dead end game. Hover this game has SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much potential, if they just let the community loose with custom content, this game could probably demolish the competition.
Oh boy this is giving ne PTSD....knew I started boycotting Dovetail for a good reason... After months of falling for their DLC hype, when they eventually started releasing 'rush hour' routes, I was so excited, then the first one came out, I started the tutorial, when I went to step into the cabin I instead stepped through the floor and into the void. This combined with many many many MANY other bugs and disappointments is what finally made me quit. My best advice is this: refund it
I had the same issue. You have to cut in the independent via a small switch on the back of the center console. There's no tutorial or mention of it in the game. I had to Google it to figure out why they wouldn't release
@@Hyce777 Lol, yeah. If you're sitting in the engineer seat and you look just to the left of the independent lever on the edge of the console, there's a little switch that you have to click to "cut in" the independent. Unsure if that's the correct terminology
Even some of the newer scenarios have similar issues. I ran into an issue with one of the recent British routes a while back where I couldn't get the brakes on my train to release, and after 20 minutes of poking around I finally realized that the locomotive was set to vacuum brake mode while hooked up to air braked cars, and I don't think the tutorials ever mentioned the brake selector at all.
36:09 Wow, someone had a Western on the Manchester - Leeds route? That would be strange to see one on that route as it is so far out of their normal territory.
@@bigdikboiCJ The Westerns were based down on the Great Western region on London St Pancras - Penzance services. The only reason they don't appear on the express services layer of the West Cornwall Local DLC where they belonged is because it was set too late for them having featured 150s from the 1980s when Western region hydraulics were all withdrawn by the late 70s except Warship D818 "Glory" which was sat at Swindon until 1985 before it was scrapped.
I've played this and it always says everything is set up but Everytime I load up it's never set, so open your map and check to points to make sure they are set for the like your susoosded to take, and check hand brakes of trailing locomotive and all that engine isolation switch is set to run, it's under the fuses, also the cabs have lights and you can turn them on if you zoom ok it's switch, they are on the roof, on Xbox you can press on left stick for a free cam
After this mess, you should try the Searchlight Simulations diesels for Train sim. Either the CP AC4400 or BNSF SD40-2. They're very well scripted and simulated.
It's when I see the actual professional play games that are suppose to simulate their jobs that I can clearly see that there is a big difference between gamers and actual professionals. Gamers will read up the rule of the game and try to follow them while the job professionals get confused because they see all of the flaws that the game made in comparison to the real deal. Reason I know being a train operator is a lot harder than what the game let's on, no matter how good I get at playing the game/simulator.
3 seats in the Cab??? = must be a Training Loco. empty Coal Drag, guess CSX has heard about your Railroad Operating Habits. a loco with NO independent Brake??? might want to send a message to the Dev's about the complete lack of Independent brakes!!!! this is getting painful! your Cars are possessed by Poltergeists!!!
from the Famous words of Gandalf "You Shall Not Pass" over the Crossing haha TSW2=a Broken horrible unrealistic Railroading Experience only made to look Pretty. I worked 37 years in a Yard and never heard a Horn blow in the yard like wtf. If didn't know this game doesn't follow anything as to real life, when it makes you stop a mile away from a switch for 3 cars your pulling shows how stupid it is. Once you start a mission it's the basic simple formula of Drive from A - To - B maybe one signal stop and that's it. Passenger trains are the only thing good in game but aren't real. For a game that Calls itself a Simulator there really isn't any Sim in it besides some of the Timetable as where Run8 is a True Simulator Railroading game. Some of the units need you to turn ON Banking Com in order to run right you know.
ROFL 24:57, you have found the most ridiculous bug of Train Sim World. I was hoping that one day Train Sim would become a somewhat realistic simulator as I kept buying into the original series and this one only to keep getting disappointed. Oh well, it satisfies my sadomasochistic necessities.
Ehm I'm going to join the probably 200 pthers pointing out thst you had your break cut out set to passenger instead of freigh, since tsw does not seap to use gp38/sd50s in to many passanger services mayby the passenger cut out is poorly modeled
Hyce No one ever said that Train Sim World 2 was the end all be all of perfect Simulation I play these train sim games and even i know that Were I to find another Railroading Job I would have SOOOOOO Much to learn But I would be at least be able to go I understand this this and this and if any of that is wrong please tell me so I can unlearn Video Game BS and learn Real railroading
Yes, this game needs a lot of polishing but for a console player (PS4 Pro) who likes trains, this is all I have. The devs are from the U.K. so have a limited knowledge of our railroads I guess.
Saluda , best wreck spot in the world, that's why NS abandoned it, over 4% grade medium freights with 17,600 hp on each end and sometimes in the middle also.
It took me a while to figure out out too, but the Dovetail developers so Livestream at least twice a week, helping users figure all this out and answering questions. "Train Simulator" channel on UA-cam.
I ran into a problem where the train couldn't move until it's at notch 4 when the brake lever is at release position and slows down rapidly if you pull power at notch 3 or less. I think it's a bug that causes that problem. I thought the bug was fixed by now because I found this bug several months ago. I wanted to report the bug but I don't know how to do so.
You said they need to have had at least two divorces? Can you smell the diesel smoke and Kenosha from here? ((Mmmm paperwork and single malt). Pure gold
I have several hours in this game on PC and I never noticed the magic rolling stock hand brakes until I watched this video. I'll have to try that later.
I did the same exact thing when pulling the cars out of the track. They not only set the automatic to cut out but all controls were set to trail so you have to turn the independent to lead 🤣 I had the whole thing roll away after I hooked in, because I got out to check the handbrake.
This is on xbox and you have to face the brakes then unaply then this game is annoying but fun for me and dont worry thay are apaerently adding a Steam loco soon
So, maps use it. And don't you work on a railroad?SO, THEN WHYYYYYYYYY WOULD YOU ASSUME HAND THROWN SWITCHES SET YOU UP AUTOMATICALLY!?!?!?!? Please try the clinchfeild Under Powered scenerio. You get to drive notch eight the hole grade of 3%.
TBH Hyce, you should have jumped right into a service, cut in the Ind, and toggle on PCS. You are too smart for the tutorial. It's a unique problem with TSW2, each time you start a new route you have to go through the route intro and they are built for someone with no experience (hence the no ind brake or dynamic, look around, use the camera, etc.). The service mode really is for the enthusiast, you can have all your safety systems, start from cold and dark, and there is no scripting to mess with schedule or route timing (PZB on German Routes can override scripted timing for example). TSW2 isn't perfect, but it is a solid experience in my opinion.
That makes a lot of sense. I would've assumed there would've been a briefing of some sort up front about that but I suppose not. Lol. For the next video! Haha
Have you tried Diesel Railcar Simulator? A remarkably good one-man effort, which is supposed to be physics-led. Watch the axleboxes moving as you drive...
The collectibles thing is weird. It is interesting to look for things along the route but most things tend to be far out of the job role of a driver like fixing the lights on the Tees Valley Line, I set up a custom scenario with the Metro-Cammel class 101 where I was just calling at each station to collect posters and lights just casually driving along with a box of fluorescent light bulbs in the cab.
u are the one he said think u know what u talking about coz u drive train sim but really u no nothing u never worked tees valley railroad so u never drove 101 with bulbs in the cab
It's weird that you critique Dovetail when the controls are way more detailed then DV, I'd rather play with American and European Trains then Serbian and Bosnian like in DV.
I think it's about presentation of what it is. Derail valley is tongue and cheek right in the name - one doesn't expect a perfect sim from them. Train sim world 2 is supposed to be an immersive first person true sim that really captures the feeling, and it just doesn't. The critique is not solely based on detail, it's about delivering on the mission.
running with the door open cause we want bees..... that really got me. XD Also, would i be right in thinking you were less than "immersed"? you said "this is stupid" many times this video lol.
It is not enjoyable to watch you condescendingly mock a 2 year old game for not precisely matching the real world in current day in every conceivable detail. This was the snobbiest thing I've ever seen and I am irrationally angry
It was fun watching you make fun of the sim, even though I had no idea what you were talking about for most of it. (maybe I should watch the diesel 101 video)
There were a few things that I was complaining about that didn't even make it into the 101 video (PCS aka Pressure Control Switch being one) but a lot is in there.
When i saw the Spirit of Steam trailer, I also immediately thought "I wonder what Hyce is gonna point out as blatantly wrong" And yeah, the CSX scenario is pretty bad. Would you believe the Europe-based game developer would do European scenarios better...
I would imagine it would be more accurate than some earlier DLC routes as the dev team are UK based and will have had a lot more input from heritage railways and owners of surviving examples.
Unfortunately, this game has sloppy written all over it in many places. Optimization tends to be really bad, and the graphics require a lot of polish too. The Sand Patch Grade scenario is an example of all the problems this game has. Dovetail really shot themselves in the foot by making this and the barebones Tube scenarios two out of three for the default ones. The only decent starter scenario really is the German one. The European and British scenarios tend to be more polished and have more content than this - I have a fondness for the latter, myself, with all the classic diesel locos they have. Also, if you try out any of the passenger scenarios, don't even bother trying to stick to the timetable - I've tried plenty, and I think the timetables don't match up to what is actually possible in-game. If you stick to the rules, anyway - overspeeding severely is often the only way to do things on time, on the lines where it's possible to hit it in the first place. The West Somerset scenario is a good example of this, where 80% of the line has a speed limit of 25 MPH - and sticking to 25 MPH, making good time is flat-out impossible. In fact, sticking to 31-35 MPH seems to be a requirement to not be late. I have a feeling Dovetail just took real/historical timetables, and didn't adjust them to the in-game tracks and vehicles.
Okay, now that I've gotten around to watching it... I never even noticed the magic handbrakes, I did wonder how they were always in the right position lmao
Personally despite having 3 american DLCs, I don't really play them. I practically always play the British GBR ones or the German DB ones as they seem to have had a lot more care put into them and personally I love the safety systems they have like the PZB90 or ATPS.
That switching session with the gps might be bugged. Make sure you have the trailing engine set to trailing and likewise with the lead because TSW loves making you do other people's jobs. The independents aren't working because the MU2A isn't cut in. And the engines do eventually load faster especially the dlc stuff.
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The fact that Derail valley has more accurate coupling/air brakes than this is sad
Derail valley is just better in general lmao, plus its more fun
TSW2 has way more modern tracks switches and more accurate and advance controls then Dv:\
UK brake simulation in TSW is a lot more accurate from what I have experienced especially with vacuum
@@cruzin8056 I disagree but whatever to each their own
Excessive speeding in the rail yard. I love it.
Hope you had fun at the museum!
It's real bad when OG MSTS had better gameplay than this...and that came out...what...2001? ...and Train Sim World 2 is CRAZY expensive for what it is! I am so glad I spent money on Railroads Online instead of this.
The valve has to be cut in via the PMD hot keys (buttons along bottom of dash screens) just as well as turning on banking comms (off by default, which remotely runs the rear units as if you're operating them) then doing the full set and release on both the train brake and the independent, at least in my case it makes sure everything releases since I don't roll with the AWS, because I'm always between the head locomotive and the trail locomotive (on the lead end when doing the shunting in yards)
P.S. the EMD (aka Dash 8's) valves gotta be in freight for them to release (previous comment was posted when I was halfway through, this one is after watching to end) but yeah, welcome to the world of TSW2.... where EVERYTHING isn't incorporated into the tutorials (braking systems, air valves, which setting for the cut-ins, etc...) otherwise another awesome video Hyce!
The entire time I’m watching the independent not work I’m like, CUT THEM IN! 🤣
Who the hell cuts out an independent
it is cut in freight but the train sim didn't release
@@bigdikboiCJ independent needs to be cut in, it’s down on the bottom of the control stand, it’s a 3 position valve, Lead or dead, Trail 6-26 or trail 24, has to be set in Lead or Dead as it’s typically set for trail 6-26
@@TheBeeMan1994 how is 6-26 and 24 different coz 24 is in 6-26
I should ment articulated tank engines
TSW2 is a fun game. the Steam sim is terrible though
Mu2a valve to dead or lead
I think you forgot that this sinulator has to appeal to every interested person, and for it to be approachable, some finer details have to be ignored, this simulator is very realistic from a lay mans point of view. The tutorial was fairly good, some or the other thing was missed which is still excusable.
I reallt feel you were totally unpleasant towards the game.
There are a lot of people like me who yearn to play these kind of simulators someday.
The independent brake needs cutting in via the MU-2A valve. In this game always assume NOTHING is set up and do a full check of everything before you set off
Also no PTC on sand patch grade unfortunately. The PCS does work however you need to turn the "safety devices" switch on in the cabinet. Any safety system in this game is off by default so new players aren't just sitting there wondering why their train won't move
... interesting
Who cuts out an independent? ...weird..
@@Hyce777 engineers who think the train's gonna be parked idling for hours on end with no use (just assuming at this point honestly) for possibly a few days, I know in my area the locomotives can be parked for 5 days, *STILL* chugging away heartily.
@@Hyce777 Everything tends to be cut out as if it's a trailing unit. Makes it easier when multiple locos spawn coupled together they don't all try to have control over the brakes
"Oh its CSX, why isn't is derailed, isn't that required?" Best line ever Hyce LOL.
The 38-3 is a CSX only modification, the -2 is still the "newest"...like 70 years old newest, setup LOL.
-3's are also a BNSF mod... and with the ridiculous control system that's in them, they're definitely a new beast... lol
You need to cut in the mu2a valve for the independent (it's tucked down around the corner under the independent stand) its a common problem because the game never tells you how to do it
That's why I like the ES44AC
@@yrntaffeta7004 personally I prefer sd40 only because it's analogue instead of electronic and more akin to what I operate at work
@@williamgrantham2463 I would like to run a train but I'm currently to young and I like the fast af intermodal trains
@@yrntaffeta7004 I work for the railway in nsw Australia and have to slug up a 3% mainline grade every other shift, and the others are out in the rolling hills of 2-2.5% so I only every see decent speed downhill
Unfortunately the sand patch scenarios are not the best - in that last one, the MU2A valve had to be set, and you had to set the switches yourself. I suggest trying out the Clinchfield Railroad route, as it gives you access to EMD F-7 A and B units, high tonnage and steep grades. It is quite fun when you get the hang of it. One thing I realised is that this game needs patience and you need to check almost everything yourself. The independent brakes do usually always work, by the way, I just believe some tutorial scenarios are broken.
Ya, the Tutorials on Sand Patch are wonky. All kinds of training wheels. Been enjoying the Horse Shoe DLC a lot lately.
I don't think any game has really accurately represented the way EMDs throttle up and its always been the main disappointment for me with train sims because I love that noise so much. The second you move that lever in real life, that engine speeds up quickly and DRAMATICALLY, revs a tiny bit past where its set to, and then settles down to a constant speed as you hear the load increase and see the exhaust smoke thicken. One of the best sounds known to man is a roots blown EMD throttling up. If one cant appreciate this sound, theres something wrong with them mentally 😂
A minute and a half into this video below is exactly what im talking about; You might appreciate this one, Hyce. Reminds me of a big old GM v8 like in your GTO. My favorite video for EMD sounds. An old high hood GP-9 being worked hard kicking cars in the yard, filmed from above so you can really hear that exhaust. I watch this at least once a month 😂 ua-cam.com/video/mQ-A8blvDlU/v-deo.html
gotta love it :D
Glad you checked this game out! I do quite a lot of modding for it (mainly the British content) The route your checking out is actually the first route ever released so its pretty old and as you've seen lacking. The newer routes fare much better in comparison. If your looking for a challenge id really recommend the Sherman Hill route as long as you don't mind waiting 10 minutes for the brakes to release!
I think Hyce would also like the clinchfield railroad route as well
Introducing Train Sim World 2!: Now featuring fancy brand new magic air brakes and magic auto-connecting air hoses!!!
(disclaimer: the independent brakes don't work and some other magic brake is always on, we're not quite sure what it is)
Independent works he just forgot to cut them in
Yeah that's what other commenters were saying, It would make more sense if they put that into the tutorial
@@TheBeeMan1994 he would know coz he is engineer it is just bad train sim tecnology
Let's hope some uncouth jabronie didnt leave a massive crap in the toilet.
You read my mind. I was watching some other videos of this and thought "I wonder what Hyce would say about this." You did not disappoint. :)
another title idea for this video
"railroader plays train sim and gets annoyed"
One of my biggest pet peeves with sim tutorials is when they LOCK THE DAMN CONTROLS. Especially when you can't finish the tutorial because one of the controls is locked when it shouldn't be. You should try Run8 next
Some additional Tips the game doesn't reveal in the Tutorials or Key Bindings.
1) You can make extensive use of the 9 Key to make aligning switches a lot easier since it shows you the path in Light Blue that you need to run on. Click on the Triangle Icon on the Map to change a switch. You can also press 8 and free fly to the switches to set them if you want.
2) You can switch between Cabs without leaving the Engineers seat using Ctrl + = or Ctrl + - on the Keyboard(not Keypad).
3) Also Ctrl + 0 will return you to the last used Engineers seat if you leave the loco. There is a distance limitation to that though, so don't wander too far if you want to quick travel back to the Cab.
Edit: Oh and one last thing, that Roll away you had... 3 Step my friend, 3 step!! Or at least 2 Step it. lol
I've sent your video to the preserved content team at DTG. Have a look at the newer routes, they're getting better on the realism in recent times. Not exactly like actual trains but much better from a game play perspective.
TSW2 is my favourite simulator! I was excited to watch this. Played this on Xbox One when I had GamePass, and shall purchase it soon. The independent works on the Xbox One version. My guess would be you didn't set up the MU-2A valve on the trailing unit, like a lot of others are saying. And the magic of the auto brake setting the handbrakes on the cars... I'll have to verify if it does that on the Xbox One version, because I don't recall it doing that. I used to do a lot of switching on it with the SD40-2 in the semi-'free play' scenario, like A LOT of switching-
Love the video! I was secretly hoping you'd stumble upon TSW2, I'd love to see more videos on it!
Ah CSX "How Tomorrow Moves." Cuz it ain't getting there today.
CSX heavy haul was the foreground to Train Sim world. It was in my opinion the best game dovetail released. Then they did this
LOL, been playing the piss out of this while waiting for Spline update
Edit: For what it's worth, the Horse Shoe Pass DLC has much more fleshed out Tutorials. The Sand Patch module is old as dirt and a carry over from TSW2020. Needs lots of TLC.
2:20 not even gonna lie, i was playing Immersive Railroading on minecraft and thaats the FIRST thing i did when i spawned diesel locos:
1:toilets? no
2: modeled engine? yea
One tip is you can throw and view switch statuses in the map, I believe the default is num 9
Watching you dunk on TSW2 was the funniest thing in a while. Regarding the end of the video, I knew this would happen, I did the exact same thing. I fought the brakes were correctly setup, and so I though the switches were...
i love this game i think the independent brakes being locked is a tutorial thing because ive tried a schedule (a non tutorial run) and the brakes work just fine but other than that its a pretty good game and even better may 31st will be releasing a steam locomotive dlc with a route called Spirit Of Steam Crewe-Liverpool Lime Street its pretty cool dlc by the looks of things
Train Sim looks a lot better with re-shaders like railworks enhancer and seems still be a better game as far as the game play goes depending on the DLC. But I don't run the real thing so that's why I'm here so I have some semblance of how the real deal runs. Run 8 is supposed to be the most realistic simulator regarding train operations if you ever want to give that one a try.
There’s more helpful info for this game in the comments than anywhere online
This game is really stale in my opinion, it's a dead end game.
Hover this game has SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much potential, if they just let the community loose with custom content, this game could probably demolish the competition.
Oh boy this is giving ne PTSD....knew I started boycotting Dovetail for a good reason...
After months of falling for their DLC hype, when they eventually started releasing 'rush hour' routes, I was so excited, then the first one came out, I started the tutorial, when I went to step into the cabin I instead stepped through the floor and into the void. This combined with many many many MANY other bugs and disappointments is what finally made me quit.
My best advice is this: refund it
I had the same issue. You have to cut in the independent via a small switch on the back of the center console. There's no tutorial or mention of it in the game. I had to Google it to figure out why they wouldn't release
... what
@@Hyce777 Lol, yeah. If you're sitting in the engineer seat and you look just to the left of the independent lever on the edge of the console, there's a little switch that you have to click to "cut in" the independent. Unsure if that's the correct terminology
Even some of the newer scenarios have similar issues. I ran into an issue with one of the recent British routes a while back where I couldn't get the brakes on my train to release, and after 20 minutes of poking around I finally realized that the locomotive was set to vacuum brake mode while hooked up to air braked cars, and I don't think the tutorials ever mentioned the brake selector at all.
"No one told you? You are a conductor, Harry!"- Rubeus Hagrid
that is canncelled movie so cant be mentioned now
@@bigdikboiCJ as soon as i find something J.K.Rowling did wrong (besides here woman superiority complex) i might
36:09 Wow, someone had a Western on the Manchester - Leeds route? That would be strange to see one on that route as it is so far out of their normal territory.
no br train on br track is normal they just are bad
@@bigdikboiCJ The Westerns were based down on the Great Western region on London St Pancras - Penzance services. The only reason they don't appear on the express services layer of the West Cornwall Local DLC where they belonged is because it was set too late for them having featured 150s from the 1980s when Western region hydraulics were all withdrawn by the late 70s except Warship D818 "Glory" which was sat at Swindon until 1985 before it was scrapped.
@@FM60260 WRONG i looked it up and the loco 818 is PRESERVED so u WRONG
@@bigdikboiCJ D818 is not preserved, however D832 "Onslaught" is currently carrying the identity of D818 "Glory"
@@FM60260 LMFAO why would br change the identity of engines to scrap engines that is nobody dose
Its a pretty good game imo, Especially for being the only proper train simulator on Consoles.
Also, they need to do more American Content.
Not gonna lie you make me laugh. Subbing.
I've played this and it always says everything is set up but Everytime I load up it's never set, so open your map and check to points to make sure they are set for the like your susoosded to take, and check hand brakes of trailing locomotive and all that engine isolation switch is set to run, it's under the fuses, also the cabs have lights and you can turn them on if you zoom ok it's switch, they are on the roof, on Xbox you can press on left stick for a free cam
But this game has mutpli routes with mutpli locomotives and they plan to add some British steam on the 27th
If the brakes are stuck fiddle with the cutouts, either trail 26 or trail24 and 6
I dont know why , black magic now instead of fairy magic handle XD
The people who modeled those locomotives look at the independent brake as doctors look at the appendix. They're no really sure why is there.
Hyce can you play the newer train sim world 3 Cajon Pass with BNSF trains?
After this mess, you should try the Searchlight Simulations diesels for Train sim. Either the CP AC4400 or BNSF SD40-2. They're very well scripted and simulated.
It's when I see the actual professional play games that are suppose to simulate their jobs that I can clearly see that there is a big difference between gamers and actual professionals. Gamers will read up the rule of the game and try to follow them while the job professionals get confused because they see all of the flaws that the game made in comparison to the real deal.
Reason I know being a train operator is a lot harder than what the game let's on, no matter how good I get at playing the game/simulator.
hyce you have to turn the knob on the side of the control stand to lead or dead
yeah
It'd be hilarious if you did a video of just you screwing up as much as you can in here.
Going to be interesting to see how they implement the steam locomotives with the upcoming DLC. It looked like a stanier black 5 with the BR logo.
that is br dlc so it is only acurate if everything dosent work
I love that the term by the man in the industry is choo choo
3 seats in the Cab??? = must be a Training Loco.
empty Coal Drag, guess CSX has heard about your Railroad Operating Habits.
a loco with NO independent Brake???
might want to send a message to the Dev's about the complete lack of Independent brakes!!!!
this is getting painful!
your Cars are possessed by Poltergeists!!!
from the Famous words of Gandalf "You Shall Not Pass" over the Crossing haha TSW2=a Broken horrible unrealistic Railroading Experience only made to look Pretty. I worked 37 years in a Yard and never heard a Horn blow in the yard like wtf. If didn't know this game doesn't follow anything as to real life, when it makes you stop a mile away from a switch for 3 cars your pulling shows how stupid it is. Once you start a mission it's the basic simple formula of Drive from A - To - B maybe one signal stop and that's it. Passenger trains are the only thing good in game but aren't real. For a game that Calls itself a Simulator there really isn't any Sim in it besides some of the Timetable as where Run8 is a True Simulator Railroading game. Some of the units need you to turn ON Banking Com in order to run right you know.
This makes me so happy that RRO and Derail Valley exist.
ROFL 24:57, you have found the most ridiculous bug of Train Sim World.
I was hoping that one day Train Sim would become a somewhat realistic simulator as I kept buying into the original series and this one only to keep getting disappointed.
Oh well, it satisfies my sadomasochistic necessities.
Ehm I'm going to join the probably 200 pthers pointing out thst you had your break cut out set to passenger instead of freigh, since tsw does not seap to use gp38/sd50s in to many passanger services mayby the passenger cut out is poorly modeled
Hyce No one ever said that Train Sim World 2 was the end all be all of perfect Simulation I play these train sim games and even i know that Were I to find another Railroading Job I would have SOOOOOO Much to learn But I would be at least be able to go I understand this this and this and if any of that is wrong please tell me so I can unlearn Video Game BS and learn Real railroading
Yes, this game needs a lot of polishing but for a console player (PS4 Pro) who likes trains, this is all I have. The devs are from the U.K. so have a limited knowledge of our railroads I guess.
Saluda , best wreck spot in the world, that's why NS abandoned it, over 4% grade medium freights with 17,600 hp on each end and sometimes in the middle also.
It took me a while to figure out out too, but the Dovetail developers so Livestream at least twice a week, helping users figure all this out and answering questions. "Train Simulator" channel on UA-cam.
I ran into a problem where the train couldn't move until it's at notch 4 when the brake lever is at release position and slows down rapidly if you pull power at notch 3 or less. I think it's a bug that causes that problem. I thought the bug was fixed by now because I found this bug several months ago. I wanted to report the bug but I don't know how to do so.
Motion blur, SPEED!!! I was absolutely flat lined through this whole video. I cannot stand the inaccuracies of this sim
You said they need to have had at least two divorces? Can you smell the diesel smoke and Kenosha from here? ((Mmmm paperwork and single malt). Pure gold
I love how you sound just so tired with this game, like just making fun of every little thing is just perfect lmao
You know what will be amazing is when they should add electric sparks on each track.
I have several hours in this game on PC and I never noticed the magic rolling stock hand brakes until I watched this video. I'll have to try that later.
I did the same exact thing when pulling the cars out of the track. They not only set the automatic to cut out but all controls were set to trail so you have to turn the independent to lead 🤣 I had the whole thing roll away after I hooked in, because I got out to check the handbrake.
As someone who wasted money on this because I have a shit computer and its available on console,thanks for showing me the inaccuracy of this game lol
This is on xbox and you have to face the brakes then unaply then this game is annoying but fun for me
and dont worry thay are apaerently adding a Steam loco soon
At least they have the correct hillstart procedure in the tutorial… a couple notches ahead.
I'm loving all the snarky comments. The signals always bugged me, one of many annoyances in this game.
Hey Hyce, this summer I might go to the Colorado Railroad Museum
You were monoluging during the second scenario that’s why it failed you! XD
So, maps use it. And don't you work on a railroad?SO, THEN WHYYYYYYYYY WOULD YOU ASSUME HAND THROWN SWITCHES SET YOU UP AUTOMATICALLY!?!?!?!? Please try the clinchfeild Under Powered scenerio. You get to drive notch eight the hole grade of 3%.
lol, noted.
Hyce has PTSD from BNSF and playing this game only amplified it
We arent going to talk about how unrealistic the locomotive sounds are
TBH Hyce, you should have jumped right into a service, cut in the Ind, and toggle on PCS. You are too smart for the tutorial. It's a unique problem with TSW2, each time you start a new route you have to go through the route intro and they are built for someone with no experience (hence the no ind brake or dynamic, look around, use the camera, etc.). The service mode really is for the enthusiast, you can have all your safety systems, start from cold and dark, and there is no scripting to mess with schedule or route timing (PZB on German Routes can override scripted timing for example). TSW2 isn't perfect, but it is a solid experience in my opinion.
That makes a lot of sense. I would've assumed there would've been a briefing of some sort up front about that but I suppose not. Lol. For the next video! Haha
Have you tried Diesel Railcar Simulator? A remarkably good one-man effort, which is supposed to be physics-led. Watch the axleboxes moving as you drive...
I haven't! I'll have to add that to the list.
The collectibles thing is weird. It is interesting to look for things along the route but most things tend to be far out of the job role of a driver like fixing the lights on the Tees Valley Line, I set up a custom scenario with the Metro-Cammel class 101 where I was just calling at each station to collect posters and lights just casually driving along with a box of fluorescent light bulbs in the cab.
u are the one he said think u know what u talking about coz u drive train sim but really u no nothing u never worked tees valley railroad so u never drove 101 with bulbs in the cab
7:32 Hey look it's the sad conductor's great grandson!
It's weird that you critique Dovetail when the controls are way more detailed then DV, I'd rather play with American and European Trains then Serbian and Bosnian like in DV.
I think it's about presentation of what it is. Derail valley is tongue and cheek right in the name - one doesn't expect a perfect sim from them. Train sim world 2 is supposed to be an immersive first person true sim that really captures the feeling, and it just doesn't. The critique is not solely based on detail, it's about delivering on the mission.
running with the door open cause we want bees..... that really got me. XD
Also, would i be right in thinking you were less than "immersed"? you said "this is stupid" many times this video lol.
Wasn't quite there, lol.
36:00 you must check how the switches are set (either on foot or by the map).
It is not enjoyable to watch you condescendingly mock a 2 year old game for not precisely matching the real world in current day in every conceivable detail. This was the snobbiest thing I've ever seen and I am irrationally angry
I mean, it was tongue in cheek fun the whole way through. Not sure who pissed in your wheaties this morning but I hope your day gets better.
It was fun watching you make fun of the sim, even though I had no idea what you were talking about for most of it. (maybe I should watch the diesel 101 video)
There were a few things that I was complaining about that didn't even make it into the 101 video (PCS aka Pressure Control Switch being one) but a lot is in there.
I was laughing my ass off when you made me realize Derail Valley has a more consistent tutorial.
16:29. Just like you set the train brake, you must set the independent.
There's gotta be a story behind the whole "we want bees" with the door open lol
When is episode 2 where you drive European trains and complain about how you can't complain because you don't know shit about European trains
Lol soon enough
So if this game doesn't teach me how to properly run a loco will you teach me?????
That is the point of this channel, yes
Holy- I haven’t played this in a long time
When you said, you can't even look into the toilet, I thought, when Railroad Online get passager cars, will the have toilets?
Good question, lol!
Not real enough.... There should be a feature where you get to walk around to look for trainmasters hiding in the weeds looking to fire you 🤷♂
Lmao
That would have it about on par.
I've had a great time enjoying this video. Lots of laughs here... Keep it up. Cheers!
36:00 Hyce looked back because he smelled Kenosha lol
I chalk this up to a bad sim? Yeah let's chalk it up to a bad sim.
36:00 looks like you forgot to flip the switches. You can flip switches and see what tracks you're supposed to be on when you use the map.
no dispach failed there job
When i saw the Spirit of Steam trailer, I also immediately thought "I wonder what Hyce is gonna point out as blatantly wrong"
And yeah, the CSX scenario is pretty bad. Would you believe the Europe-based game developer would do European scenarios better...
I would imagine it would be more accurate than some earlier DLC routes as the dev team are UK based and will have had a lot more input from heritage railways and owners of surviving examples.
here's hoping, my friend...
@@el_sheppe It will be better than Sand Patch Grade for sure
Unfortunately, this game has sloppy written all over it in many places. Optimization tends to be really bad, and the graphics require a lot of polish too. The Sand Patch Grade scenario is an example of all the problems this game has.
Dovetail really shot themselves in the foot by making this and the barebones Tube scenarios two out of three for the default ones. The only decent starter scenario really is the German one. The European and British scenarios tend to be more polished and have more content than this - I have a fondness for the latter, myself, with all the classic diesel locos they have.
Also, if you try out any of the passenger scenarios, don't even bother trying to stick to the timetable - I've tried plenty, and I think the timetables don't match up to what is actually possible in-game. If you stick to the rules, anyway - overspeeding severely is often the only way to do things on time, on the lines where it's possible to hit it in the first place. The West Somerset scenario is a good example of this, where 80% of the line has a speed limit of 25 MPH - and sticking to 25 MPH, making good time is flat-out impossible. In fact, sticking to 31-35 MPH seems to be a requirement to not be late.
I have a feeling Dovetail just took real/historical timetables, and didn't adjust them to the in-game tracks and vehicles.
Okay, now that I've gotten around to watching it... I never even noticed the magic handbrakes, I did wonder how they were always in the right position lmao
Personally despite having 3 american DLCs, I don't really play them. I practically always play the British GBR ones or the German DB ones as they seem to have had a lot more care put into them and personally I love the safety systems they have like the PZB90 or ATPS.
In a cw4400ac their is a chair in the middle in real life
The guy in that GP38-2 is not scary compared to the one I saw inside the Gas Turbine in Train Simulator.
That switching session with the gps might be bugged. Make sure you have the trailing engine set to trailing and likewise with the lead because TSW loves making you do other people's jobs. The independents aren't working because the MU2A isn't cut in. And the engines do eventually load faster especially the dlc stuff.
Oh... I thought this game was pretty nice, but train man says it's all wrong.
There are some nice things about it! It was a good bit of fun, despite... it being it.