AN AMAZING POWER BAGGER FOR FALL LEAF CLEAN UP (FOR TRACTORS) 🚜
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- Опубліковано 15 лис 2021
- The leaves are coming down-coming down fast-and we are way behind on clean up and even mowing, as the grass isn't yet dormant for the season. So we're throwing on our backpack blower before we jump onto our John Deere 1025R tractor with the Protero Material Collection System. See just how well it performs, even under absolutely NOT ideal circumstances.
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While using your backpack blower with your left hand, try using a handheld with your right hand. WORLD OF DIFFERENCE!!!👍😉
I'll give you credit; you are a patient and persistent man. After watching the video I was glad I had purchased a AGRIFAB pull type vacuum chipper. Clogs when mowing rare and capacity probably three times greater. And the other plus is it can chip a two inch limb. The down side is another engine to maintain and it's a tow behind. The biggest plus is my vegetable garden loves the chips and mulch!!!
Wow!! You have an Amazing Looking Lawn pal! Green green grass shining after all the leaves are gone! It just shows your hard work paying off! This leaf gathering product looks like it works great. While my children are still young & love jumping in the leaf pile, I'll continue letting them rake the yard for now! 💁♂️😁 Haha. Again, we appreciate yall's time in making these videos!
Haha thanks! Leaf piles are a lot of fun! 😂
For releasing the ducting hose: Check out McMaster-Carr for quick release clamps for ducts and soft hose. Will save time and effort. The leaves I get in my wooded lot (maple - early, oaks - late) make your yard look like child's play! A tip: don't blow leaves into a pile and then 'mow'. Let the leaves lay randomly scattered and mow before blowing. Reduces clogging! Make blowing out beds and difficult areas your second operation. Sounds counterintuitive and it is, but scattering second-operation leaves randomly replicates thinner random leaf placement. You're mowing the same area twice but without clearing clogging and by maintaining a slow steady pace, believe it or not, the job will take less time and reduce frustration. Twenty years of experience talkin'. Old bull - young bull! Great videos!! I never miss!!
You need a buckle latch so you can quick disconnect the hose on and off... awesome video.
Yes, I told my brother the same thing.
Leaf picking can be enjoyable with a collection system, but the exhaust can be somewhat frustrating at times. I found a solution by attaching a 90° copper fitting to the end of the exhaust pipe to turn the exhaust up and away from the front of the tractor. It stops the blowing of debris and keeps my 54 snow blower from getting black. Just 2 small sheet metal screws does the trick.
I have the Superior Tech 20 bushel 3 point hitch system on my 1025r and love it. Makes picking up leaves very easy. Just like you with wet leaves and grass it will plug but still better and quicker than raking. It has electric dump that makes it nice that you don't have to leave your seat. Keep the videos coming.
I was torn between the Protero and the Cyclone Rake. In the end I decided on the Cyclone for 1 main reason. I have a lot of area where I need the vacuum hose attachment to and I'd rather run a little Briggs & Stratton motor wide open all day while my tractor just sits there with the engine off than run my tractor wide open all day at a stand still. It was also about 25% less expensive. They're both great units. I probably would have gone with the Protero for the convenience if 50% of my cleaning didn't require the vacuum hose.
Each fall clean up were picking up over 8300 gallons of mulched leaves and acorns with a Cyclone rake XL with a 415 gallon hopper for the last 10+ years. I love the system your using with the dump from the seat feature!!!!! Also it looks like less dust blow out than the Cyclone XL. Thanks for sharing.
That's a lotta leaves!
I would love to have this system for my Zero turn in the smaller areas of my yard. I use the medium sized DR Yard Vac. I probably get half that much in my yard each time I do a clean up. I also have the BR 800C. That thing does work good.
switching to mulching blades will help a lot with the clogging. finer the material the less it clogs
Sometimes even with the best of the best it will still fight you, looks great
Great Vid! Great Shots! Looks like you had a great day on the tractor! Can't beat that!
Haha sure did, thanks!
I've been doing a lot of fall cleanups now too. They're like 3 or more weeks later than usual. Been a beautiful fall! Awesome bagging system!!!
Yeah, we had an amazing fall. Have a great day Aaron!
@@GoodWorksTractors I will. I have a brush hogging job to do with the L3301. 😃👍
Tractor therapy! 🚜
At its finest!
I agree with all your starting comments. I share your frustration but it looks so much better for a few hours. My pile gets so big and spread out that I use my loader equipped machine to push together and stack.
I fully agree with your JD bag comment. Dealer even told me they would be difficult to empty so I ordered the dump from the seat hopper that works better but has it's own problems.
Yeah those piles will add up quick! Can get out of control if you don't have the space.
I live in the country so I let nature take care of my leaves. What falls in the driveway get removed by the snow blower when I do the first blow of the season.
I like my lawn. Even when we move to the country, I'll still want to clear the leaves.
Hey Courtney,
I first saw this reviewed on TTWT and after looking at several different options I do believe it’s the best currently available. Thanks for sharing the clogs - that makes it real. I’m sure on a dry day it would work without the clogs.
Thanks for stopping by Allen! Have a good one!
Great video. I find giving the tunnel a good shake with only the rear PTO engaged often clears out the clog without having to disconnect anything.
Agree, PTO should be level when engaged but for dumping I find it more efficient to "bounce" the 3-point a time or two to empty it rather than slamming the breaks. Loosening the 3-point fall damper helps.
Great video - I dearly need something like that.
There are quick release hose clamps available - what is the OD of that pipe?
The secret to power vac , when its wet and heavy like that is to do half cuts , I have used one for many years .
I pick up a lot of leaves and large leaves are slow through the system. After I get the leaves out in the open, I use a mumching cover on the deck to chop the leaves in place which reduces volume 5 to 10 times. After mulching, leaves will go through much faster and easier with minimal plugging. This includes grinder systems such advertised commercially. An added benefit of mulching in place is they don't blow easily if you can't get them all picked up immediately.
You should try a JD zero turn with the mulch on demand system. I only mulch customers yards for fall clean ups and it works great in my area and conditions at least.
We just moved into my grandparents house on 45 acres. leaves this fall were never cleaned up and all the grass is dead. I have basically a complete lawn redo coming in the spring.
You could see tire tread marks on your lawn. Take a ratchet or drill with nut driver with you to speed up the worm drive clamp. That clamp is a bad design feature. Good video.
Correct. You would see any tire makes in my lawn when wet. It would speed it up by a few seconds at most. Clamp would be best.
looks like you were also fighting the wind. Sure glad I do not have deal with leaves. Lots of pine needles here on my place in SC. Pine straw rakes and back pack blowers do the trick. Plus they burn great when piled!!!
Superior Tech MCS 20 with the Deere powerflow. I’ve only had an issue with wet grass. Never with leaves. Great product.
Your video Looks like a John Deere commercial.
Just getting around to catching up on your videos. The lawn looked really nice! I feel for you with that clogging up so often.
Thanks Bob, those cool season grasses really shine in the fall!
I have a cyclone rake…. And while there are huge differences, it never clogs… never. Even in wet and heavy conditions in the northeast. The thing I like the least about it’s design is I wish it used the rear PTO vs separate engine. But it’s performance is exceptional.
Hi Courtney, are those suitcase weights hanging from the factory bumper? What kind of suitcase weights are they? I’d like to do the same thing with my 2038r for when I run the loader mounted snow plow. Thanks.
I have an AgFab collection system and it does a great job, but don’t kid yourself, it’s still a lot of work. I’ve gone to mulching.
How do you determine when it is full
Have you considered using a flail mower with hammers and collection system? I was told it also picks up wet leafs nicely. Anyone experience with this?
One way to stop the leafs from blowing out from under the deck is to put bigger pulky on the blower, you need more suction so the blades won't push access air from under the deck
Your yard looks great 👍 Does that bag system have a sight glass to show how full it is
It would be nice to have a setup like that for my mom’s property.
Maybe use a dethatcher to push the leaves at the edge of the woods then use your Stihl blower to blow them through the woods? Great video!
I've done some of that. I try it all! 😂
Try garage door lube spray in the hose. It helps.
Yeah might try that in the boot. That's where the clogging primarily occurred.
Are those headphones?? Going old school these days! ) The dump from seat bagger is on my wish list, but it would have to be for my smaller lawn tractor. The 2025r is too heavy (especially with the cab!) and doesn't even have a mower deck. Loving the videos, they are very informative, entertaining and relaxing. I hope that when work picks up again for me and I can put aside some more money, I will be in contact with you to buy some attachments that I have had my eye on!
Thank you sir, it was a satisfying result even with the frustrations!
Just bought one this past Friday, can't wait for it to show up our farmstead ground has 81 trees and all of them are contributing heavily this year. Hoping to see that baby in a couple of weeks! Thanks for the continuing series - this is one of the best channels I've seen for understanding the options for our tractors and the best places to get them. I'm running a 2021 3033R - love it!
I love the fact you don’t candy coat the reality of lawn care and tractor implements. I loved the shot the day after. But hey how would you like the leaves to fall all at once? It would be like digging out from a blizzard.
Haha very true!
Your pto shaft should be level to maximize its lifespan. If you can you should lower the bagger down a bit. It'll also lower your center of gravity increasing stability.
I wonder if a bypass vent opening, like on house floor vacuums, would help reduce clog by pulling more air after the boot. That plus slowing in deep piles might eliminate the issue. Might be simple fix. At least might make clearing clog without unscrewing hose possible. It is a common feature on dust collectors as well.
Outside observation. A good mulcher takes care of all the clippings and leaves and no need for extra equipment, (extra money) and no need to deal with a pile of clippings and leaves and debris which is another job dealing with a big pile. A good mulch program saves money, time and makes a better lawn. Just a thought.
So how does this unit do on a non-manicured lawn? I have a ton of oaks and they constantly shed twigs/branches and lots of acorns?
Many oaks along the back and side of my yard. Twigs and acorns constantly. Will work well on smaller twigs, but not big branches. So so on acorns. Depends how low you cut and how the acorns are sitting.
@@GoodWorksTractors deer and turkeys take care of all my acorns and persimmons. Lawn mower mulches leaves and bacteria remove it quickly.
When I use a rake its usually handed off to cheap child labor called grandkids. 🤣🤣
Courtney, I'm curious as to what kind of drone you use. You're getting some really nice aerial shots.
Haha I hear ya!
Drone is a Mavic Air 2 I think!
@@GoodWorksTractors Yeah the Mavic Air 2 is looking like my future new drone. I gotta make that phone call to Santa. I'm not sitting on his lap. That ain't happening.
Thanks Courtney!!!
Haha I know what you mean!
What year is that 1025R? I didn't know they made one without armrests, I thought that was limited to the 1023E.
What brand dump cart is that in the beginning of the vid? Looks killer!
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I really wish I had all the toys you have access to/ Having said that, however, I ironically find myself in possession of yet another John Deere, and older 425 with a snowblower attachment, cab, and mower deck with belt driven blower attachment. My father has been downsizing as he settles into retirement and he offered it to me. At its prime, the 425 was one of the best, pretty close to what the 1025r is now.
I have an honest question for you, are there any attachments available that will fit on the 425? Is it worth seeking them out?
Thank you in advance.
Nice score! Love the older garden tractors. There's a handful of attachments put there that will fit. Gotta look hard.
I know moisture is a factor but was it clogging because feed speed or was the hopper full and backing up?
More of a volume problem... besides moisture. Shear quantity of wet grass and leaves...maybe I was going too fast, but it helped when I took smaller passes. Moisture and quantity were the culprits. If dry, it would have been much better. I've used this bagger quite a few times. I've had only a couple clogs total prior to this day. Brutal!
Yes it looked brutal! Lol did my yard with my toro yesterday with mo clogs but it was dry and my bagger has a blow out port when the second bag fills. I think it would be pretty easy to adapt a rubber catch on your bottom tube for ease of removal. If i was closer i would do it for you. Btw, love your new property!
You need to live where I do, the wind blows 95% of the leaves away. Haven't used a leaf rake in 30 years.
Haha wow, that works out well!
The struggle is real!
Then you're not familiar with the Echo 9010 hand down the most powerful backpack you can get over 1100cfm at 220mph its a beast, get ya one at Kalamazoo Lawn and Garden
Ooo well I just might hafta!
@@GoodWorksTractors its the best decision I made, it's not as refined as the stihl doesn't have that pullcord feature but its a brutal no nonsense machine that does what it's supposed to do. That's exactly why I bought it.
You were more worried about the exhaust blowing leaves around…you had more exhaust blowing out of the right front of the mower deck then I ever saw on the left side !
Courtney, is it okay to leave loader outdoors during the winter? I live in the northeast
I would protect the cylinders and hoses if you can. ua-cam.com/video/pigV8YI3AE4/v-deo.html
Do john deere not sell the x950 in the states
Don't believe so
Total noob here. So I’m buying my first tractor soon but have considered not buying the mower attachments. I figure I can save on the money for that attachment and put it towards a zero turn mower. So is there a decent option for a vacuum/leaf collector that doesn’t require a mower to attach to? If I buy the mower attachments, I won’t be able to afford a separate mower.
Thank you for the video. There is a lot of good info in the video, and in the comments!
I had a DR Power (not very popular? I never see them mentioned) for a long time. It came with quick disconnect clamps, just 2-3 rubber straps. It also had a separate vacuum hose, which was incredibly useful for cleaning up around bushes and garden beds, leaves blown against wire fencing, or vacuuming up acorns. When I ordered the unit I had no idea just how much I would use the vacuum hose!
Downside of it was it was the unit attached at 2 points to the back of the tractor, and had caster wheels. They don't use that design anymore. I got caught a few times along fences, where I had to disconnect the unit to get unstuck. However, any 3-pt hitch system like the protero could get you in to that situation - you mow parallel to the fence, now if you turn left the part handing off the back of the tractor hits the fence. You can't turn right either, as the front of the tractor hits the fence. If you are lucky you just back up until you are past the fence (over a thousand feet in my case, but I was able to just disconnect one pin and drive away).
Clogs happened, but were easy to take care of thanks to the quick connect rubber clamps.
Unfortunately a few years ago I lost the engine (there is reason they tell you to check the oil every day - stupid mistake on my part), and now have a 1025r, so not sure if I want to repower and adapt to the new tractor, or buy a new unit, leaning towards new unit. although the 3-pt hitch would adapt to the design easily.
The vacuum hose isn't exactly a deal breaker, but at least for my property it is a huge benefit. Thanks to a commenter I saw the agrifab which also has a chipper built in. Very appealing! Adding that to my research list.
I like the idea of PTO drive, since it means one less engine to maintain, and one less engine to worry about fuel going bad, etc. If the Protero had that option I would likely order one now.
Thanks again for your videos! SO helpful, and inspiring.
Looked like the Sweep-All sweeper would have been the better choice for wet leaves.
I saw more leaves coming out of the boot to mower deck connection than the exhaust, looked like the front of the boot was not on correctly.
Don’t disconnect the Shute, simply keep your blower with you, tip the Shute up and keep the vacuum running and blow it out to clear it.
Where am I going to store the blower on the tractor? Literally 90 seconds to remove the chute, unclog, hook up, and back to mowing.
@@GoodWorksTractors I have a small hand held blower that I made a small holder for that I keep on my mower. The simpler the better.
How much does that thing cost?
You need a spinner knob, really helps with maneuverability in tight places and with loader work. Thanks for all of your videos and info.
I have the DR. It almost never clogs but doesn't empty nearly as easy as yours. It would be interesting to compare price between the 2. DR is similar to cyclone and agrifab system. Dumps way better than agrifab that my brother in law uses. I believe DR and Brinley system are pretty much the same but I bought DR because a dealer was closer to my house. Down side to DR is it's motor driven not PTO driven, so you have to listen to 2 engines and it's a bit noisy. Perhaps motor driven shredder is why it doesn't clog so easy and I think flex tube from mower to shredder is bigger than your reviewed model.
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Does you neighbor tell you to leave his strip alone. My OCD would make me do his strip! Lol
You had natural dust abatement. I'd rather take care of a couple of clogs over being covered in leaf dust and dirt.
Haha good job seeing the bright side 😂
Agree. One good thing is that I now have a bunch of cheap masks around. I use them for dusty stuff like leaf shredding, and the difference is amazing. Less congestion, no brown boogers, no sneezing and allergy flare ups.
I understand that wet leaves are a difficult situation. To avoid clogs I wonder if just slowing down to give the wet mass time to get through the chute would alleviate the problem. Or is the problem that the leaves are getting hung up on a ridge, bend, constriction, etc. In this case I would rework that restriction. Hope this helps. Cheers!
It's really a matter of the volume of material and it being wet which makes it stick instead of slide through.
It doesn’t happen if you go very slow you have to give it time to feed into the shoot I have the auto flow from John Deere and picked up a lot of wet leave and grass it clogged once then I went very slow and never happened again
There were several times I was creeping along. Didn't make a difference. 🤔
I use the Agri-Fab Chip-n-Vac behind my JD X758. Dump from the seat would be nice though.
I see a lot of that brand being used.
@@GoodWorksTractors I do find myself wishing my salesman would've talked me into a 1025 instead of the X758 though. I feel way to limited with my 7 series, especially for the price...
One of the reasons I got my DR yard vac was how easy it is to dump.
I'd would just mulch the leaves up
Welcome to my world 🌎 lol
Ha, I'm sure! Every day thang!
@@GoodWorksTractors Yup!!
I've found when doing leaves, if you blow the leaves in the landscape beds onto the lawn and then try to bag it all up, it's too much for any machine to handle. It's a double thick layer of leaves then and clogs every time.
I start out 1st by going with along the perimeter of the landscaped beds with the bagger on. I do the lawn area for about 3 deck widths wide so I have a nice 10-12' open clean grass area. Then I blow out the beds onto that fresh cleaned up grass. And then run the bagger again over the same area and it can handle it no problem.
I've also found that when mowing, keep the "clean grass" line on the passenger side of the mower deck and all of the leaves you are mowing up on the drivers side, especially when you are doing half deck-width passes. This allows the leftmost blades to chop up the leaves as they pass from blade to blade in the deck, before they even get to the blower. The leaves that get gobbled up on the rightmost side of the deck only hit 1 blade and then quickly into the blower and their particle size is alot larger, leading to more clogs. In your video, look at 28:18 and you'll see what I mean. Any leaves your gobbling up are primarily coming in from the left-most side of the deck and surely turning into total mush by the time they hit the blower (which is a good thing). Compare to 20:07 and yeah, it's gonna clog. :)
Good stuff Gary. I normally don't have issues. Just a perfect storm that day. 👍
Mr. Courtney, went over to the Protero Inc site, did you know they don’t have prices listed? Shame on them. I would imagine for me, I would have to remove the mulching kit, but the site doesn’t say. Then I guess I’d have to purchase some Gator blades. So for now, I’ll stick with my Stihl battery powered blower, as I’m too old for a backpack. But it does the job and I just blow the leaves into the woods, or an area I can just mulch over. I do like your music! I do have a question, I noticed your FEL sits out, uncovered, does it hurt the hydraulics?
Yes I believe you'd need to remove the mulching kit...some folks mulch year round. Lots of strategies! Have a great day!
Sorry, missed that last question. Yeah, it'll hurt the hydraulics over time. However, it'll take awhile. This will sit outside for a little while, but loader going back on for winter. It'll be inside my garage. Need to clear some space.
@@GoodWorksTractors you as well Mr. Courtney, now about the FEL sitting outside…
@@GoodWorksTractors Thanks! I’m clearing space in the carport 😂. One day, I will have a proper storage building
I don't know.. Seems to clog alot..
the echo pb 9010 is more powerful the the br800
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So who is Chris?
That's my brother. He's behind the camera.
Echo 9010 has way more power
Yup. Way too fast. Adjust your speed to conditions
I tried creeping along. It didn't matter. Not my first time 😂
Oops! Guess your deck was overcoming the capacity of the unit’s fan w/ the wetness added in. You were far more patient than I would have been.
TL;DW
I don't know what this means, but all good man!
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You were going too fast
Happened when going slow too.
ahh yes the leaf haters club. sad.