Jay, I really like how you put these videos together as you train your horses into their progression. It's very informative and I love learning the training process in horse racing, a great view for an outsider of the industry. Been watching horse racing for over 6 years and follow the sport but it's great to see the behind the scenes and hard work you guys put in. Good luck, lord admiral looks great.
Jay he looks spectacular, he loves to run! Even after the workout he has his neck bowed and a cocky bounce to his trot. He came back looking like he owned the track. Love the video keep them coming. Go Lord Admiral!
HI! Hadn't had a chance to view much lately..though, you & your TEAM of grooms, riders, and ladies..;) are ALL doing an immensely awesome job with~ LORD ADMIRAL!! tHANKS SO MUCH FOR SHARING ALL OF THIS TO US!!! Hoping everyone stays well & SAFE!! B.
Hello Jay, I stumbled upon your series and would like to thank you for explaining all the little nuances about breaking and training a young horse. I am a University a Track coach and have always loved horses. I admire the total athlete that they are. I admire the careful planning and training regiment that you guys put them through. In many ways it's similar to what we do in our sport. As a coach of several Olympians, I have gained ideas from watching and listening to commentary such as yours. Thanks! Norbert
Wow! That's a great compliment and thank you. People often ask what a Thoroughbred trainer does and I tell them I'm basically a track coach. I look at a lot of research and technique that was done for track athletes and bicycle racers and apply it wherever appropriate, such as aerodynamic racing silks and a new approach to diet. By the way, much of the cheating in horse racing comes right out of bicycle racing. Thanks for watching and congrats on your work with your human athletes
Can't wait to see Lord Admiral's debut later on down the road. He looks very promising and is gorgeous. This is a horse that I will definitely follow until he retires. I have a feeling he will do great in his debut and career.
Glad to make your acquaintance Jay been following your posts Find them very informative the two of you do some excellent work. And I will continue to follow you two l will share one of your posts to my horse communitys and see if we can increase your following Bob
Best videos I have ever seen.. Lord Admiral, his name fits him... He is Amazing. And we know now Amazing results.... Great Decision to retire Lord Admiral
hmm... He has some interesting facial marking, very pretty but curious. lol. let's hope you can get him in the favorites spot as a two year old and on to stakes. still needs work he is running alittle green..but definitely shaping up. Can you do a conformation video on Lord Admiral! That would give me a good idea of this horse
Yep. I know, he this young and the conformation gets out of balance on and off during growth stages...but it would be a great way to assess him so I can see what you working with, if only for the moment before he goes and gets his extremely leggy and gawky teenage look. Lol
Well he's pretty leggy now. Actually, I was looking at him today and I noticed that he really is less over in the knees than he was a few months ago. If you look at the older videos I think you can see it.
Jay, congrats on the horse. Wish you the best and success with him. Do you see him running longer distances considering his body and make up structure? I'm thinking 1 mile or longer, and give his breeding too..?
Is he a colt or gelding? Handsome big boy . I train racers in UK and retrain for riding once retired. I used to ride also bit race accident soon stopped that. Only pleasure ride mostly now . Best of luck with him and love your videos
Sorry to here you got hurt. Today I went without crutches for the first time in 2 weeks after LA knocked me down and walked all over me. His Lordship is a gelding which started out as a cryptorchid. That means instead of an $800 castration it was a $3,000 surgical job. But I'm not bitter.
+Jay C. Nehf thanks for your prompt reply. Not good he ran over you... Probably a good thing you ha him given the little snip. The good old attitude adjuster!! Lol!! Yeah cryptoid ops are insane prices. Had to have one done last year over here it's nearly £4,000. But it was a needed operation. The horse we had done is now so much better to work with. Hope your man is too! Who is he by if you don't mind me asking?
+Jay C. Nehf no wonder he's so big with Man o war lines. I know of Tiznow I have a mare in training by. Him called Tiznow Frenzy , a lovely girl she is too she'll start her racing in March once the new maiden race series starts. I've also had a colt by Tiznow who is retired and at stud now in France . His name was Tizspectacular. I like the Tiznow foals I've had a lot of luck with that line. I hope you have a lot of good luck with Lord Admiral. He sure does have a lovely big stride. On the other hand if he doesn't make it to the top as a racer you could always send him here to the UK.... With his looks and markings I know a lot of people who's love to make him a nice show hunter he certainly has the right height and built for it too.
Thanks. I love the Tiznow family and I think we will hear more from them in the future. I'd love to train LA in England or France. All that turf, uphill, downhill- it's so sterile here. Just keep turning left on the flat oval. Maybe the Arc, eh? He might like a mile and a half.
Looks like first or second week of August, which would make it Del Mar. Of course, you can always go to clockers corner at Santa Anita. He usually gallops between 8:00 and 8:20. He will breeze again Friday if all systems are go.
Jay, please, when will we hear from you again? When will we hear about Lord Admiral? Are you still vlogging? Please let us know something, last we heard a while ago, you said we would hear from you but so far nothing.
He was a ridgling. That is a cryptorchid, only one testicle descended from the abdominal cavity into the scrotum. We waited untill he was 25 months old to see if the testicle would descend, but it didn't. The testicle in the abdoman is warmer than normal and so produces more testosterone causing behavior problems among other things. He got worse and worse around the barn till he threw his rider and ran me over when he got loose so we had the surgery done, about $3K! That was 4 weeks ago and he's much better. He's breezing 3f from the gate this morning so I have to get going. BTW, nice fish.
Thank you for the info. I love following Lord Admiral's progress. I appreciate your taking the time to document his development. It gives us non-horse owners a glimpse of the process.
Jay, I'm new to this sport and am enjoying, as well as learning the thinking of a trainer through your wonderful videos. So, what's the 10% larger got to do with distance?
Simple logic tells me that 10% larger means a taller horse, which means a longer stride, which usually means they can go longer without tiring as easily. Plus, an animal with long legs sometimes takes awhile to find its stride in the beginning of a run and reach its full speed at the end of a run, so distance would be better for it. But I'm not a trainer, so I'm not 100% sure that's correct. ^.^
LOL! Yes, that's right but you're just scratching the surface. For example, 10% bigger means 10% less effective heat dissipattion as well. That can actually cause a horse to fatigue and shut down quicker. I found it interesting that one of the reasons the enormous mammals of the Ice Age, like mammoths, were so successful is that they had a lower ratio of surface area to body mass than smaller mammals, which helped them retain heat. So we monitor his weight daily along with his body condition score, a method of judging body mass developed at Texas A&M. Gets complicated, doesn't it? But the really great horses, from Zenyatta to Secretariat to Man O' War, all had tremendous stride length. There is a display at the Kentucky Horse Park comparing the length of their strides. Here's something you might find interesting: Man O' War was 16.2 hands tall. Lord Admiral is 16.2 hands tall. Man O' War was 1,125 lbs. Lord Admiral is 1,110 and we're trying to put a few pounds on. Man O' War is Lord Admirals direct male line sire 9 generations back.
Amazing! I'm kind of new to horse racing, so this is really interesting! I heard about the Man O' War connection in some of your earlier videos. It's actually what's made me check every week for a new video of him! X) Plus, who can resist that face? It's not often you get such a unique marking on a thoroughbred! =) Thank you for all of the info - it's helpful to learn about all of these different aspects in horse racing directly from a horse trainer.
People talk about how bitless bridles cause damage to a horses nose well what they don't want to admit is that us and animals have a lot more nerves and sensitivities in our mouth feel a lot more pain in the mouth!
+Jay C. Nehf Do you do some sort of mock race when does his works? I would also assume you have to do some training to get him breaking from the gate in a quick and straight fashion.
We sometimes work in company with another horse. I have two thoughts on workouts: solo works, easier to control pace used purely for conditioning; works in company for the mental sharpening. I will make a video shortly showing the whole process of gate training. Lord Admiral is just about finished with it, just a couple more sessions.
cant controle your horse? put a stronger bit in... what great training (or whaterver) i'd recomend not using anything single jointed. 3:45 yes, because the horse cant open its mouth to escape the pressure of the bit. if your horse is better in a noseband you are using your hands too much
Jay, I really like how you put these videos together as you train your horses into their progression. It's very informative and I love learning the training process in horse racing, a great view for an outsider of the industry. Been watching horse racing for over 6 years and follow the sport but it's great to see the behind the scenes and hard work you guys put in. Good luck, lord admiral looks great.
Thanks Jerzmade. I forgot to mention in the video that Nyquist wears the ring bit. Thanks for watching.
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Jay he looks spectacular, he loves to run! Even after the workout he has his neck bowed and a cocky bounce to his trot. He came back looking like he owned the track. Love the video keep them coming. Go Lord Admiral!
HI! Hadn't had a chance to view much lately..though, you & your TEAM of grooms, riders, and ladies..;) are ALL doing an immensely awesome job with~ LORD ADMIRAL!! tHANKS SO MUCH FOR SHARING ALL OF THIS TO US!!! Hoping everyone stays well & SAFE!! B.
Hello Jay, I stumbled upon your series and would like to thank you for explaining all the little nuances about breaking and training a young horse. I am a University a Track coach and have always loved horses. I admire the total athlete that they are. I admire the careful planning and training regiment that you guys put them through. In many ways it's similar to what we do in our sport. As a coach of several Olympians, I have gained ideas from watching and listening to commentary such as yours. Thanks! Norbert
Wow! That's a great compliment and thank you. People often ask what a Thoroughbred trainer does and I tell them I'm basically a track coach. I look at a lot of research and technique that was done for track athletes and bicycle racers and apply it wherever appropriate, such as aerodynamic racing silks and a new approach to diet. By the way, much of the cheating in horse racing comes right out of bicycle racing. Thanks for watching and congrats on your work with your human athletes
Aha! The old Triple Jumper Elliott!
Can't wait to see Lord Admiral's debut later on down the road. He looks very promising and is gorgeous. This is a horse that I will definitely follow until he retires. I have a feeling he will do great in his debut and career.
Glad to make your acquaintance Jay been following your posts
Find them very informative the two of you do some excellent work. And I will continue to follow you two l will share one of your posts to my horse communitys and see if we can increase your following Bob
Best videos I have ever seen..
Lord Admiral, his name fits him...
He is Amazing. And we know now Amazing results....
Great Decision to retire Lord Admiral
he is wonderfull and has a very special trot. I hope he is gonna do well!
Am I the only one who thinks he would make a marvelous dressage horse when he retires? That movement is just gorgeous.
You are not alone! It is remarkable to see a horse of his size move with such grace. We never tire of watching him run.
hmm... He has some interesting facial marking, very pretty but curious. lol. let's hope you can get him in the favorites spot as a two year old and on to stakes.
still needs work he is running alittle green..but definitely shaping up.
Can you do a conformation video on Lord Admiral! That would give me a good idea of this horse
I will try to work that in. thanks for the idea
Yep. I know, he this young and the conformation gets out of balance on and off during growth stages...but it would be a great way to assess him so I can see what you working with, if only for the moment before he goes and gets his extremely leggy and gawky teenage look. Lol
Well he's pretty leggy now. Actually, I was looking at him today and I noticed that he really is less over in the knees than he was a few months ago. If you look at the older videos I think you can see it.
+Jay C. Nehf I will... I think I have missed a few videos according to my Notifications. .so I will go back a take a look
Great horse !!
Thanks Patriot
Jay, congrats on the horse. Wish you the best and success with him. Do you see him running longer distances considering his body and make up structure? I'm thinking 1 mile or longer, and give his breeding too..?
I'm looking at 1 mile first time out hopefully at Del Mar late August. Thanks for following us!
Is he a colt or gelding? Handsome big boy . I train racers in UK and retrain for riding once retired. I used to ride also bit race accident soon stopped that. Only pleasure ride mostly now . Best of luck with him and love your videos
Sorry to here you got hurt. Today I went without crutches for the first time in 2 weeks after LA knocked me down and walked all over me. His Lordship is a gelding which started out as a cryptorchid. That means instead of an $800 castration it was a $3,000 surgical job. But I'm not bitter.
+Jay C. Nehf thanks for your prompt reply. Not good he ran over you... Probably a good thing you ha him given the little snip. The good old attitude adjuster!! Lol!! Yeah cryptoid ops are insane prices. Had to have one done last year over here it's nearly £4,000. But it was a needed operation. The horse we had done is now so much better to work with. Hope your man is too! Who is he by if you don't mind me asking?
Much better but very tough on the track. He's by Slew's Tiznow, a California stallion, one of the few that traces directly to Man O' War.
+Jay C. Nehf no wonder he's so big with Man o war lines. I know of Tiznow I have a mare in training by. Him called Tiznow Frenzy , a lovely girl she is too she'll start her racing in March once the new maiden race series starts. I've also had a colt by Tiznow who is retired and at stud now in France . His name was Tizspectacular. I like the Tiznow foals I've had a lot of luck with that line.
I hope you have a lot of good luck with Lord Admiral. He sure does have a lovely big stride.
On the other hand if he doesn't make it to the top as a racer you could always send him here to the UK.... With his looks and markings I know a lot of people who's love to make him a nice show hunter he certainly has the right height and built for it too.
Thanks. I love the Tiznow family and I think we will hear more from them in the future. I'd love to train LA in England or France. All that turf, uphill, downhill- it's so sterile here. Just keep turning left on the flat oval. Maybe the Arc, eh? He might like a mile and a half.
Jay... He looks good enough now to run the stakes races. hopefully up to the Graded ones ;)
What month do you think he will start racing? I live is Southern California and I'd love to see him race at Santa Anita live on the track
Looks like first or second week of August, which would make it Del Mar. Of course, you can always go to clockers corner at Santa Anita. He usually gallops between 8:00 and 8:20. He will breeze again Friday if all systems are go.
Jay, please, when will we hear from you again? When will we hear about Lord Admiral? Are you still vlogging? Please let us know something, last we heard a while ago, you said we would hear from you but so far nothing.
Jay ~ I didn't realize Lord Admiral was a gelding until I checked on Equibase ( a little surprised).
He was a ridgling. That is a cryptorchid, only one testicle descended from the abdominal cavity into the scrotum. We waited untill he was 25 months old to see if the testicle would descend, but it didn't. The testicle in the abdoman is warmer than normal and so produces more testosterone causing behavior problems among other things. He got worse and worse around the barn till he threw his rider and ran me over when he got loose so we had the surgery done, about $3K! That was 4 weeks ago and he's much better. He's breezing 3f from the gate this morning so I have to get going. BTW, nice fish.
Thank you for the info. I love following Lord Admiral's progress. I appreciate your taking the time to document his development. It gives us non-horse owners a glimpse of the process.
You are welcome! I am surprised at the response. I guess there just isn't much out there that shoews the details of racing.
He has a nice bounce in his step.
Thanks for the informative video, very interesting. Are you expecting Lord Admiral to be a route horse or sprint horse?
This guy is 10% bigger than the average 2 y.o., 16.1h and 1,107 lbs. I'm thinkin' we'll go looooong!
Jay, I'm new to this sport and am enjoying, as well as learning the thinking of a trainer through your wonderful videos. So, what's the 10% larger got to do with distance?
Simple logic tells me that 10% larger means a taller horse, which means a longer stride, which usually means they can go longer without tiring as easily. Plus, an animal with long legs sometimes takes awhile to find its stride in the beginning of a run and reach its full speed at the end of a run, so distance would be better for it. But I'm not a trainer, so I'm not 100% sure that's correct. ^.^
LOL! Yes, that's right but you're just scratching the surface. For example, 10% bigger means 10% less effective heat dissipattion as well. That can actually cause a horse to fatigue and shut down quicker. I found it interesting that one of the reasons the enormous mammals of the Ice Age, like mammoths, were so successful is that they had a lower ratio of surface area to body mass than smaller mammals, which helped them retain heat. So we monitor his weight daily along with his body condition score, a method of judging body mass developed at Texas A&M. Gets complicated, doesn't it? But the really great horses, from Zenyatta to Secretariat to Man O' War, all had tremendous stride length. There is a display at the Kentucky Horse Park comparing the length of their strides. Here's something you might find interesting:
Man O' War was 16.2 hands tall. Lord Admiral is 16.2 hands tall. Man O' War was 1,125 lbs.
Lord Admiral is 1,110 and we're trying to put a few pounds on. Man O' War is Lord Admirals direct male line sire 9 generations back.
Amazing! I'm kind of new to horse racing, so this is really interesting! I heard about the Man O' War connection in some of your earlier videos. It's actually what's made me check every week for a new video of him! X) Plus, who can resist that face? It's not often you get such a unique marking on a thoroughbred! =) Thank you for all of the info - it's helpful to learn about all of these different aspects in horse racing directly from a horse trainer.
I am worried for his legs, he is so big and young...
People talk about how bitless bridles cause damage to a horses nose well what they don't want to admit is that us and animals have a lot more nerves and sensitivities in our mouth feel a lot more pain in the mouth!
I haven't heard anything bad about bitless bridles. However, they are not allowed in TB racing.
his he still running on march 18
Yes. Symptoms are gone, blood test negative, we are good to go.
What's the time line for his first race, and do you have any early thoughts on what level he may eventually grade out at?
Probably first week of August at Del Mar, maiden special weight Cal Bred. Haven't yet decided on short, long, dirt, turf.
+Jay C. Nehf Do you do some sort of mock race when does his works? I would also assume you have to do some training to get him breaking from the gate in a quick and straight fashion.
We sometimes work in company with another horse. I have two thoughts on workouts: solo works, easier to control pace used purely for conditioning; works in company for the mental sharpening. I will make a video shortly showing the whole process of gate training. Lord Admiral is just about finished with it, just a couple more sessions.
can't wait to put my money on your horse i wish the best on that day good lluck jay
I had no idea you trained Lord Admiral
Or he trains me, if you ask him.
Consider yourself part of the team. Thanks for watching
cant controle your horse? put a stronger bit in... what great training (or whaterver) i'd recomend not using anything single jointed.
3:45 yes, because the horse cant open its mouth to escape the pressure of the bit. if your horse is better in a noseband you are using your hands too much
You are way behind. Using Houghton bit, working perfectly.
whatever you say
Totally agree!
you are not letting the horse race enough you have to push him a little more
Get him away from Del Mar!
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All of that metal junk needs to go in your mouth let's see how comfortable you are!
You shouldn't watch these things.