I'm in love with Lord Admiral, he's a very nicely built horse and I'm super excited to see what becomes of him, in fact I just added him to my virtual stable. I'm in the process of watching this whole series and I just wanted to say that I love your training methods and I love that you are posting all this content for the public to view, there are so many people who think that training a racehorse is just getting on and galloping, this wonderfully represents the methods of effective trainers and I love it. Hopefully i'll be training racehorses when I'm older and I will certainly be applying some of these methods!
Thanks Tex, though I don't know how old you are, if you're serious about train and college is in your future, check out Arizona State's horse racing industry degree. Alumni include Bob Baffert, Todd Pletcher and our beloved racing secretary at Santa Anita, Rick Hammerle. Important breeze coming up Saturday for the Admiral so I'll post a new video afterward.
He looks great, coming along very well and fast learner too. It's always interesting to see different styles of training, breaking and handling. These guys are doing wonderful work with Lord Admiral and I look forward to seeing more results of yours and their efforts.
Hi Nik. We have always had good results mounting up the first time in the stall. What you don't see in this video is the preliminary work, slow and patient, getting the tack and walking behind with long reins. So mounting up is not much of a shock. By the way, I love your English Setters. I used to breed them. My favorite dog breed
Making the sound is the leather from stirrup against the side of saddle not the irons. Just desensitizing, as is tapping the saddle enough to get a noise, or tugging on the stirrups and saddle ( which he didn't do but is a good desensitizer prepping horse to accept weight when person steps up on them and pulls to get on). Same thing with jumping up and down to get horse used to people's movement and not startle. TBs are super flighty and hyper sensitive, reactive, jumpy. He did good.
looking at this and knowing the horse is not fully formed bone wise just is sad, i get that it is a business, i get that they are "all broke this way" but it just is too much for these horses who then don't have a life after the track as their minds are broke as is their bodies...I would prefer an older age at least 2 before any wt is put on their backs...just my opinion. I would be a broke race horse owner i suppose!
+Jill McGovern Real Estate, Inc. I'm glad you expressed your thoughts regarding this. There has been extensive university based research done regarding the work/age relationship and the results indicate pretty clearly that these animals thrive on the PROPER amount of work starting at just short of a year old (no rider at that stage). Statistically, horses that race as 2 y.o.'s have longer careers and win more money. My horses undergo a program that came out of Univ. Pennsylvania that was developed over the course of 11 years, called the Maryland Shin Program. Much of the actual training was done at Fairhill Training Ctr in Maryland. You can google Maryland shin program and see all of the papers, x-rays, ultrasounds, etc. Not many trainers use this program because it takes a long time, 17 weeks, and that costs money. Lord Admiral went through the program and even got an extra 30 days turned out in pasture in between stages because he is so big. We gave him a little extra time for those bones to adapt. So I think you can relax and enjoy the sport without worrying.
Well said Jill, your instict and common sense says it all. Jay, you can bring me all the vids, pics, university courses you want. ALL the work done with race horses is ONLY to make them run as fast as possible cos they will give returns....business. ALL businesses are set up to make returns, I am not nagging about that, I am saying you are just sweet talking a) cos you actually believe what you are saying...and/or b) you actually want adults to believe what you are saying. I congratulate you for doing what you like, it is obvious by the way you talk and comment and inform that you are excited and pleased with what you do. Yet the racing business is terrible for horses. No matter what you tell us, all you are really doing is describing the lengthy work people go through to get their "machines" ready to produce....this is a flipping baby! Forget the equivalence of 1 horse year to 4 human years....terrible as it is...just think of the impossibility to have a body formed, bones welded and muscles and tendons mature and already they will test him to his limits. You people just need to admit what you do and quit talking rubbish to convince us and perhaps yourselves of the fairness of the sport you participate in. I see nothing dishonest in liking what you like and bloody well saying it.....so with your racing, just say you love to see your TB go and full out to win, just say there is no stronger source of adrenaline and excitement for you than to see your boy win.......just admit you will never bring yourself to open your eyes and see how you make a magestic animal go through living hell just to make money for you, admit that it makes no damned difference for you what he is going through as long as he is ready to go out there to please you. You don't know because you wish not to...you are in a business that can not look at a horse and take him away from the track lest he is useless for you and your plans. He will stay there dying a little everyday cos you bought and taught a slave to do your bidding. Hell I understand what business is, I am a salesman....yet also a horse owner, lover and amateur gentler of mine and friends'. I dont pet and kiss and cradle mine cos they are horses, not my friends, not my equals, not my buddies..my horses. Hirarchy, then respect, then all the loving you want, but in that order. Still, I know I force them to bear me on their backs, I know they would live happier without me riding them, sure, even though they live in semi-wild conditions in the Gredos Mountains in Spain...like your Wyoming...still I am selfish and keep them and ride them when I want to, not when they want to....but what you do has nothing to do with respect, or even fondness for horses, you don't have to love horses, can't force you to, but just ADMIT what you like and what drives you. Athletes choose to compete, boxers choose to smash each other, nothing wrong with that...yet you use the willingness of tamed horses to work till they die for you, its the way they are...those that are strong, fast, willing are useful till they no longer are. So, yes I know about horse racing, perhaps not as much as you, but enough to know what I don't like about it. You are free to enjoy life as you please, I do...yet be honest, NOBODY in horse racing puts their horses out there for fun and love of the animal. Do you know why younger horses have longer carries...by your stats? There is a relation between the natural, willing, life-defying energy of youngsters of any kind to take on work and keep producing. The younger they are the more willing to obey and accept to take it on themselves to work for you till they drive themselves insane. Those programs you mention are partly responsible for looking for and finding those age limits...too young will destroy him too early....and do you know how they find out? Do you think it is by university studies and reasoning? NO, HELL NO! It is by collecting data from the thousands they send to the knackerers or sell cos in the end the prospect did not fulfill expections...that is how many put it. Enjoy your racing, I will never even watch it, simply because of all the stuff that goes on that you will never admit, simply cos I look at the horse and say...no need for me, but there is need for you, so good for you but not for him. Yes they are bred for that...and that is what they are used for, well too bad, cos they can be bred but not used for that, people will decide. Just like England decided to stop fox hunting, a sport of kings and blue-blooded, stiff-necked, upturned noses....but it stopped.
David Nkedive García Your bombastic propaganda is ill informed, but you do have a good idea of some of the traits of horses. These animals enjoy their work, and they are indeed malleable to the desires of humans. They are not made into slaves,but given socially acceptable ways to express themselves, fully. Their behavior if they were "wild and free" is conformed by sometimes arbitrary rules imposed by larger more powerful animals. The penalties for non-conformance in that environment may be swift and harsh. In that circumstance, some starve, some are injured and eaten, and some are permanently maimed. In this environment, the worst thing one may do is to coddle them. The rules are set to protect them, and as with polo bandages, to protect them from themselves. Limits to behavior are not only to protect humans. The horse is more than a willing partner, and those who treat them O's other than an equal partner seldom win important races, go broke, and are weeded out. The myth of slave driving an animal indicates to me that you are an armchair quarterback. We ask, and with repetition commensurate to each horse's ability to learn, the horse eagerly jumps to respond. Bones and tendons strengthen with work, that is biochemical, physiological and metabolic fact. Methodical work can be too slow and too limited if one does not periodically exercise to reach the next plateau. Horses allowed to mature before breaking are more reluctant, and can injure themselves, sometimes severely, with the advanced muscular development which maturity brings. If turned out, they do not develop bone density and ligament all flexibility. These are not rationalization a, nor self-serving excuses. These facts are established with rigorous research. Do horses get injured? Yes, and so do all professional athletes. Do they enjoy their jobs? They love it! Each day's work is supervised so that they learn and develop into their full self expression. That is how races are won, as they learn their craft, their will to win comes to the fore.
Wow....so anyone who does not agree with you knows nothing. You read what I wrote, but imagine what a waste of your time cos I simply stopped after the 1st sentence. Your type are all the same, real racing people know it's just business. Now go on, justify your rubbish with others.
David Nkedive García. Sure it is a business. That one fact does not make it a bad thing. In all business, kindness and consideration generate greater returns. It is even more true in racing.
is it safer to ride in a close stable or is it better to ride outside in an enclosure ,for the first time? Some horse that are not so well socialized or they fear or they dont like weight bearing they will possibly react very violently . In thoroughbreds bred for the track i think it is almost routine to brake them in a closed stable. Considering the nervousnes and the size of a thoroughbred i always wonder how safe it is.
You have an amazing horse there, extremely smart and willing to work. Do me a favor and find him a good loving home if he doesnt work on the track. Dont send him to be made into saussage, he could teach people a lot. But since its quite a bit later now, did he work out?
I like what you do. The only thing I see is that in side reins, the outside one is adjusted a bit too snugly and pulls the head to the outside. I would lengthen it a hole or so. But that's all. Have worked with Tb and saddle-seat horses.
Mhm I once rode a former racing horse that totally panicked everytime he saw a crop. Do you have an explanation for that? Did you encounter something like this before?
Really-he is only 20 months?!! Horses bones do not fuse completely until 4-5. Stupid just stupid. And hitting the horse with metal? Realy he is 20 months!! Let bang metal on a 20 month baby and sit on ot and see what you do to it!
I live in terror of him hurting himself. This method of breaking, in the confinement of the stall, has worked really well. AnId bear in mind that he has had a lot of work done with him before he gets to this point. If the basics are done well, this stage is pretty uneventful. Thanks for watching
Smacking the stirrup and releasing when the horse moves.. Is teaching this animal to move when hes being smacked.. You guys know anything about pressure and release? LOL
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It's all rather rushed compared with all those delightful videos posted by talented young women with lots of time, space and love to spare in starting horses which in many cases they will train and ride for pleasure and shows for many years. Here, the job has to be done quickly and with a minimum of fuss, and in this case obviously without any harm to, or particular opposition from, the horse. The (very) young horse is being trained to be a racehorse under standard tack, not a close companion which can perform at liberty. The techniques are actually much the same, and obviously the earlier handling and groundwork with the horse leads to his being a willing worker here.
Did you seriously take this horse to a barn, inside a stall and put someone on his back? What kind of sacking out is this, let alone horsemanship? If you need to rely on a boxed stall to keep him under control, or be broken, then obviously you dont know what proper "sacking out" is....
A lot of thoroughbreds are trained this way. Not the first trainer ive seen do it this way. Is it good or bad? Its just personal preference IMO every trainer and person is gunna do what they like.
Really- he's taking this all in stride? I see nothing but confusion and fear in this young horse as the rider propels him forward into wall after wall after wall. There is no release, no softening, he is clearly trying to figure it out and your guy just keeps pressing. The primary concern with young horses is to pose a question (like getting up over their backs) and softening (rewarding) when they accept it. I don't think this poor colt looked happy at all- look at his eyes and ears. I've trained many x-race horses and their issues are deep, mostly started from trainers with heavy hands and aids who push too hard too fast.
puh- leeease. No bucking, no kicking, no rearing, no hollering, no trauma. What in theeee hell are you talking about? While you're posing questions and softening we are finished with the day's lesson.
Oh course he's going to be confused and look a little scared, it's his first time with someone on his back. The only way to get a horse to not be so spooky is by exposing them to the same thing they're afraid of. If you can show them that whatever it is they're afraid of isn't going to hurt them, that's where the lesson comes from, that's when they start learning. I don't see anything wrong in this video, it seems like a typical young horse who is being exposed to things he's never been exposed to before. It's all about trust. Sure, if they really wanted to they could've got after him so he isn't moving around while being mounted for riding... but those are things that can be worked on after his first experience of having someone on his back. I personally like to see a round pen that has gates instead of walls, but it still isn't abuse.
Cierra (love that name!), there is an Australian guy on youtube named Warwick Schiller. He is amazing. I recently had a mare that was so bad about bridling that it took the stable that had her previously 3 hours to get the bridle on. When I got her and realized how bad the situation was, I googled "bridling the difficult horse" and found Schiller. I followed his advice and, after a few quiet sessions, got the mare bridle in 40 seconds. Then they claimed her back and I hear it's the same old story. Poor mare. Check this guy out and let me know what you think. I have to admit, I learned something really handy from him.
I will definitely look into his videos. I vaguely remember hearing about him, but since you mentioned him, I will go ahead and watch a couple. Also, thank you! :) I love watching Clinton Anderson and although people say he's harsh or "rude" he can fix virtually any issue a horse could have... he's corrected highly aggressive, even life-threatening behavior in horses within the time of one 15-20 minute video. I truly admire him for his bluntness and grit. He's Australian as well, but lives in the US.
I didn't see the whites of his eyes, so no fear. A little confusion is normal considering it's his first time! Bet you were a tad confused your first day of school too. So are we all.
Putting a saddle on a yearling? Really? A horses bone structure isn`t stable enough at that age, nor with two or three years. When sport/money/fame is involved, the animal`s needs doesn´t count. Sad, sad, world
You're an expert? Really? Do you know how to measure "bone stability"? Really? Have you read the 11 year Nunnamaker/Fisher bone density study at Penn? Really? Sad, sad world. And you put in one comma too many. Reply when you've done your homework and established some credibility.
God this is an abomination stressing a yearling colt who is not fully formed typical he has such a kind nature and will of course exploited on the race track until he wins big or is destroyed because of failure or injury .
So you didn't see the date of publication, November 2015. If you had taken the time to watch all of the videos on Lord Admiral you would know that he was safely retired last year and is happily training for a career as a show jumper. Or perhaps you do know the truth and are simply a despicable liar using me and my horses to further your own abominable agenda. Either way, you are an ignoramous- in the literal sense. Look it up, you fit the definition to a tee. The abomination is your attempt to subvert the truth. I'll leave this up long enough for you to see my reply and then I'll block you. By the way, I got paid for your view of this video.
@@JayCNehfracing you tube is a way of expressing your opinions I am not the only person who thinks yearlings confirmation is not fully formed and possible stress on the skeletal can easily lead to damage on the track at a very early age, Ignoramous well judging by your reply you do not like my opinion,but I am entitled to it ,the reason I stopped watching your video was when you were slapping him with the stirrup and for a laid back horse he was snorting ie stressed. Blocking me well do not flatter yourself go ahead .
Uninformed opinions deserve NO respect. No one is "entitled" to broadcast invalid opinions. If you publicly express an opinion, as on UA-cam, you are responsible for informing yourself of the complete facts. At what age is a horse physically mature? Sexually mature? Why is that rider "slapping" the stirrup leather? How and why do stress fractures occur? Can they be prevented and treated? At what age can they occur? I provide those answers in my videos but you see part of one video and you feel qualified to pronounce an opinion. I won't allow it here. Get your own channel.
I love him. I hope he never gets injured running hard on the track.
I'm in love with Lord Admiral, he's a very nicely built horse and I'm super excited to see what becomes of him, in fact I just added him to my virtual stable. I'm in the process of watching this whole series and I just wanted to say that I love your training methods and I love that you are posting all this content for the public to view, there are so many people who think that training a racehorse is just getting on and galloping, this wonderfully represents the methods of effective trainers and I love it. Hopefully i'll be training racehorses when I'm older and I will certainly be applying some of these methods!
Thanks Tex, though I don't know how old you are, if you're serious about train and college is in your future, check out Arizona State's horse racing industry degree. Alumni include Bob Baffert, Todd Pletcher and our beloved racing secretary at Santa Anita, Rick Hammerle. Important breeze coming up Saturday for the Admiral so I'll post a new video afterward.
He looks great, coming along very well and fast learner too. It's always interesting to see different styles of training, breaking and handling.
These guys are doing wonderful work with Lord Admiral and I look forward to seeing more results of yours and their efforts.
He is so handsome! I'll be following this boy.
+Meaghan Edwards I just posted the latest news!
Hi Nik. We have always had good results mounting up the first time in the stall. What you don't see in this video is the preliminary work, slow and patient, getting the tack and walking behind with long reins. So mounting up is not much of a shock. By the way, I love your English Setters. I used to breed them. My favorite dog breed
It's sad seeing a beautiful horse be sacrificed /ruined
Making the sound is the leather from stirrup against the side of saddle not the irons. Just desensitizing, as is tapping the saddle enough to get a noise, or tugging on the stirrups and saddle ( which he didn't do but is a good desensitizer prepping horse to accept weight when person steps up on them and pulls to get on). Same thing with jumping up and down to get horse used to people's movement and not startle. TBs are super flighty and hyper sensitive, reactive, jumpy. He did good.
Thank you N JC
Nice. I have had good results starting horses in the stall like this. They just seem to think things through better.
LA is really a big horse for a yearling!
2 years and already riding? shouldn't you wait a bit? my friesian is 13 months old but I'm not going to start riding until 4
I feel like part of the team, thanks for the updates!!!
Stunning horse
This is a nice colt and the video on his smooth stride was interesting. Best of luck to his connections.
+DANIEL K Cunningham Thanks Dan. I just posted an update on Lord Admiral's progress. I'd love to hear your opinion.
Wow this horse is beautiful and seems very calm with a rider
looking at this and knowing the horse is not fully formed bone wise just is sad, i get that it is a business, i get that they are "all broke this way" but it just is too much for these horses who then don't have a life after the track as their minds are broke as is their bodies...I would prefer an older age at least 2 before any wt is put on their backs...just my opinion. I would be a broke race horse owner i suppose!
+Jill McGovern Real Estate, Inc.
I'm glad you expressed your thoughts regarding this. There has been extensive university based research done regarding the work/age relationship and the results indicate pretty clearly that these animals thrive on the PROPER amount of work starting at just short of a year old (no rider at that stage). Statistically, horses that race as 2 y.o.'s have longer careers and win more money. My horses undergo a program that came out of Univ. Pennsylvania that was developed over the course of 11 years, called the Maryland Shin Program. Much of the actual training was done at Fairhill Training Ctr in Maryland. You can google Maryland shin program and see all of the papers, x-rays, ultrasounds, etc. Not many trainers use this program because it takes a long time, 17 weeks, and that costs money. Lord Admiral went through the program and even got an extra 30 days turned out in pasture in between stages because he is so big. We gave him a little extra time for those bones to adapt. So I think you can relax and enjoy the sport without worrying.
Well said Jill, your instict and common sense says it all. Jay, you can bring me all the vids, pics, university courses you want. ALL the work done with race horses is ONLY to make them run as fast as possible cos they will give returns....business. ALL businesses are set up to make returns, I am not nagging about that, I am saying you are just sweet talking a) cos you actually believe what you are saying...and/or b) you actually want adults to believe what you are saying. I congratulate you for doing what you like, it is obvious by the way you talk and comment and inform that you are excited and pleased with what you do. Yet the racing business is terrible for horses. No matter what you tell us, all you are really doing is describing the lengthy work people go through to get their "machines" ready to produce....this is a flipping baby! Forget the equivalence of 1 horse year to 4 human years....terrible as it is...just think of the impossibility to have a body formed, bones welded and muscles and tendons mature and already they will test him to his limits. You people just need to admit what you do and quit talking rubbish to convince us and perhaps yourselves of the fairness of the sport you participate in. I see nothing dishonest in liking what you like and bloody well saying it.....so with your racing, just say you love to see your TB go and full out to win, just say there is no stronger source of adrenaline and excitement for you than to see your boy win.......just admit you will never bring yourself to open your eyes and see how you make a magestic animal go through living hell just to make money for you, admit that it makes no damned difference for you what he is going through as long as he is ready to go out there to please you. You don't know because you wish not to...you are in a business that can not look at a horse and take him away from the track lest he is useless for you and your plans. He will stay there dying a little everyday cos you bought and taught a slave to do your bidding. Hell I understand what business is, I am a salesman....yet also a horse owner, lover and amateur gentler of mine and friends'. I dont pet and kiss and cradle mine cos they are horses, not my friends, not my equals, not my buddies..my horses. Hirarchy, then respect, then all the loving you want, but in that order. Still, I know I force them to bear me on their backs, I know they would live happier without me riding them, sure, even though they live in semi-wild conditions in the Gredos Mountains in Spain...like your Wyoming...still I am selfish and keep them and ride them when I want to, not when they want to....but what you do has nothing to do with respect, or even fondness for horses, you don't have to love horses, can't force you to, but just ADMIT what you like and what drives you. Athletes choose to compete, boxers choose to smash each other, nothing wrong with that...yet you use the willingness of tamed horses to work till they die for you, its the way they are...those that are strong, fast, willing are useful till they no longer are. So, yes I know about horse racing, perhaps not as much as you, but enough to know what I don't like about it. You are free to enjoy life as you please, I do...yet be honest, NOBODY in horse racing puts their horses out there for fun and love of the animal. Do you know why younger horses have longer carries...by your stats? There is a relation between the natural, willing, life-defying energy of youngsters of any kind to take on work and keep producing. The younger they are the more willing to obey and accept to take it on themselves to work for you till they drive themselves insane. Those programs you mention are partly responsible for looking for and finding those age limits...too young will destroy him too early....and do you know how they find out? Do you think it is by university studies and reasoning? NO, HELL NO! It is by collecting data from the thousands they send to the knackerers or sell cos in the end the prospect did not fulfill expections...that is how many put it. Enjoy your racing, I will never even watch it, simply because of all the stuff that goes on that you will never admit, simply cos I look at the horse and say...no need for me, but there is need for you, so good for you but not for him. Yes they are bred for that...and that is what they are used for, well too bad, cos they can be bred but not used for that, people will decide. Just like England decided to stop fox hunting, a sport of kings and blue-blooded, stiff-necked, upturned noses....but it stopped.
David Nkedive García Your bombastic propaganda is ill informed, but you do have a good idea of some of the traits of horses. These animals enjoy their work, and they are indeed malleable to the desires of humans. They are not made into slaves,but given socially acceptable ways to express themselves, fully. Their behavior if they were "wild and free" is conformed by sometimes arbitrary rules imposed by larger more powerful animals. The penalties for non-conformance in that environment may be swift and harsh. In that circumstance, some starve, some are injured and eaten, and some are permanently maimed. In this environment, the worst thing one may do is to coddle them. The rules are set to protect them, and as with polo bandages, to protect them from themselves. Limits to behavior are not only to protect humans. The horse is more than a willing partner, and those who treat them O's other than an equal partner seldom win important races, go broke, and are weeded out. The myth of slave driving an animal indicates to me that you are an armchair quarterback. We ask, and with repetition commensurate to each horse's ability to learn, the horse eagerly jumps to respond. Bones and tendons strengthen with work, that is biochemical, physiological and metabolic fact. Methodical work can be too slow and too limited if one does not periodically exercise to reach the next plateau. Horses allowed to mature before breaking are more reluctant, and can injure themselves, sometimes severely, with the advanced muscular development which maturity brings. If turned out, they do not develop bone density and ligament all flexibility. These are not rationalization a, nor self-serving excuses. These facts are established with rigorous research. Do horses get injured? Yes, and so do all professional athletes. Do they enjoy their jobs? They love it! Each day's work is supervised so that they learn and develop into their full self expression. That is how races are won, as they learn their craft, their will to win comes to the fore.
Wow....so anyone who does not agree with you knows nothing. You read what I wrote, but imagine what a waste of your time cos I simply stopped after the 1st sentence. Your type are all the same, real racing people know it's just business. Now go on, justify your rubbish with others.
David Nkedive García. Sure it is a business. That one fact does not make it a bad thing. In all business, kindness and consideration generate greater returns. It is even more true in racing.
My goodness he is just breathtakingly gorgeous and he's doing so good too
Yes, thanks!
is it safer to ride in a close stable or is it better to ride outside in an enclosure ,for the first time? Some horse that are not so well socialized or they fear or they dont like weight bearing they will possibly react very violently . In thoroughbreds bred for the track i think it is almost routine to brake them in a closed stable. Considering the nervousnes and the size of a thoroughbred i always wonder how safe it is.
+nikolaos K yes I think it's safer to break these Thoroughbred's this way
You have an amazing horse there, extremely smart and willing to work. Do me a favor and find him a good loving home if he doesnt work on the track. Dont send him to be made into saussage, he could teach people a lot.
But since its quite a bit later now, did he work out?
I like what you do. The only thing I see is that in side reins, the outside one is adjusted a bit too snugly and pulls the head to the outside. I would lengthen it a hole or so. But that's all. Have worked with Tb and saddle-seat horses.
Personally, I stay out of the way and let the boys at the farm do their magic
Mhm I once rode a former racing horse that totally panicked everytime he saw a crop. Do you have an explanation for that? Did you encounter something like this before?
Most likely, someone traumatized him with a whip.
Really-he is only 20 months?!! Horses bones do not fuse completely until 4-5. Stupid just stupid. And hitting the horse with metal? Realy he is 20 months!! Let bang metal on a 20 month baby and sit on ot and see what you do to it!
Are you ever scared that when a horse starts to buck in that small stall it might hurt its legs? And I love LA he is beyond gorgeous.
I live in terror of him hurting himself. This method of breaking, in the confinement of the stall, has worked really well. AnId bear in mind that he has had a lot of work done with him before he gets to this point. If the basics are done well, this stage is pretty uneventful. Thanks for watching
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Smacking the stirrup and releasing when the horse moves.. Is teaching this animal to move when hes being smacked.. You guys know anything about pressure and release? LOL
Yes, but it's obvious you don't
I hear you but it's not a dressage horse
Great footage.😉
Hi jay, great videos. Im a newcomer and have a ton of questions. Any way i can send u a message?
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It's all rather rushed compared with all those delightful videos posted by talented young women with lots of time, space and love to spare in starting horses which in many cases they will train and ride for pleasure and shows for many years. Here, the job has to be done quickly and with a minimum of fuss, and in this case obviously without any harm to, or particular opposition from, the horse. The (very) young horse is being trained to be a racehorse under standard tack, not a close companion which can perform at liberty. The techniques are actually much the same, and obviously the earlier handling and groundwork with the horse leads to his being a willing worker here.
Did you seriously take this horse to a barn, inside a stall and put someone on his back? What kind of sacking out is this, let alone horsemanship? If you need to rely on a boxed stall to keep him under control, or be broken, then obviously you dont know what proper "sacking out" is....
No we don't seriously take this horse to a barn. We were just trying to fool you.
A lot of thoroughbreds are trained this way. Not the first trainer ive seen do it this way. Is it good or bad? Its just personal preference IMO every trainer and person is gunna do what they like.
Jay C. Nehf I love this, haha! Subbed. Love the vids :)
pony the horses will help them except and prepare him having someone over his back and it would be less of a surprise for them later on.
Don't these people don't mount in a stall
The first time a horse is ridden you shouldn't imediatly start waking him with a crop
Really- he's taking this all in stride? I see nothing but confusion and fear in this young horse as the rider propels him forward into wall after wall after wall. There is no release, no softening, he is clearly trying to figure it out and your guy just keeps pressing. The primary concern with young horses is to pose a question (like getting up over their backs) and softening (rewarding) when they accept it. I don't think this poor colt looked happy at all- look at his eyes and ears. I've trained many x-race horses and their issues are deep, mostly started from trainers with heavy hands and aids who push too hard too fast.
puh- leeease. No bucking, no kicking, no rearing, no hollering, no trauma. What in theeee hell are you talking about? While you're posing questions and softening we are finished with the day's lesson.
Oh course he's going to be confused and look a little scared, it's his first time with someone on his back. The only way to get a horse to not be so spooky is by exposing them to the same thing they're afraid of. If you can show them that whatever it is they're afraid of isn't going to hurt them, that's where the lesson comes from, that's when they start learning.
I don't see anything wrong in this video, it seems like a typical young horse who is being exposed to things he's never been exposed to before. It's all about trust.
Sure, if they really wanted to they could've got after him so he isn't moving around while being mounted for riding... but those are things that can be worked on after his first experience of having someone on his back.
I personally like to see a round pen that has gates instead of walls, but it still isn't abuse.
Cierra (love that name!), there is an Australian guy on youtube named Warwick Schiller. He is amazing. I recently had a mare that was so bad about bridling that it took the stable that had her previously 3 hours to get the bridle on. When I got her and realized how bad the situation was, I googled "bridling the difficult horse" and found Schiller. I followed his advice and, after a few quiet sessions, got the mare bridle in 40 seconds. Then they claimed her back and I hear it's the same old story. Poor mare. Check this guy out and let me know what you think. I have to admit, I learned something really handy from him.
I will definitely look into his videos. I vaguely remember hearing about him, but since you mentioned him, I will go ahead and watch a couple. Also, thank you! :)
I love watching Clinton Anderson and although people say he's harsh or "rude" he can fix virtually any issue a horse could have... he's corrected highly aggressive, even life-threatening behavior in horses within the time of one 15-20 minute video. I truly admire him for his bluntness and grit. He's Australian as well, but lives in the US.
I didn't see the whites of his eyes, so no fear. A little confusion is normal considering it's his first time! Bet you were a tad confused your first day of school too. So are we all.
Putting a saddle on a yearling? Really? A horses bone structure isn`t stable enough at that age, nor with two or three years. When sport/money/fame is involved, the animal`s needs doesn´t count. Sad, sad, world
You're an expert? Really? Do you know how to measure "bone stability"? Really? Have you read the 11 year Nunnamaker/Fisher bone density study at Penn? Really? Sad, sad world. And you put in one comma too many. Reply when you've done your homework and established some credibility.
Hes got Man O War by Fair Play sired by Hastings three of the worst tempered horses alive
Michelle McCarthy: Genetics are a crap shoot! Just because LA has these horses in his pedigree, doesn't mean that he will have a nasty personality!
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God this is an abomination stressing a yearling colt who is not fully formed typical he has such a kind nature and will of course exploited on the race track until he wins big or is destroyed because of failure or injury .
So you didn't see the date of publication, November 2015. If you had taken the time to watch all of the videos on Lord Admiral you would know that he was safely retired last year and is happily training for a career as a show jumper. Or perhaps you do know the truth and are simply a despicable liar using me and my horses to further your own abominable agenda. Either way, you are an ignoramous- in the literal sense. Look it up, you fit the definition to a tee. The abomination is your attempt to subvert the truth. I'll leave this up long enough for you to see my reply and then I'll block you. By the way, I got paid for your view of this video.
@@JayCNehfracing you tube is a way of expressing your opinions I am not the only person who thinks yearlings confirmation is not fully formed and possible stress on the skeletal can easily lead to damage on the track at a very early age, Ignoramous well judging by your reply you do not like my opinion,but I am entitled to it ,the reason I stopped watching your video was when you were slapping him with the stirrup and for a laid back horse he was snorting ie stressed. Blocking me well do not flatter yourself go ahead .
Uninformed opinions deserve NO respect. No one is "entitled" to broadcast invalid opinions. If you publicly express an opinion, as on UA-cam, you are responsible for informing yourself of the complete facts. At what age is a horse physically mature? Sexually mature? Why is that rider "slapping" the stirrup leather? How and why do stress fractures occur? Can they be prevented and treated? At what age can they occur? I provide those answers in my videos but you see part of one video and you feel qualified to pronounce an opinion. I won't allow it here. Get your own channel.
You should never get on a horse that's never been ridden before. It's just like never getting in the water until you learn to swim.
Well how is the horse going to get used to a rider if no one ever gets on him?
LOL Remeber, we do a lot of work with them before we climb aboard
I know Jay. Just tweaking the critics.
big an slow equalls lifetime maiden
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such a counter productive and terrible way to "train". Too young, too reactive. Can't wait for this industry to die off.