The Making of the 2022 Subaru BRZ®
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- Developing a second generation of the iconic Subaru BRZ posed one of the most difficult challenges in automotive design. Make it more powerful. Make the body stronger. Do it all without adding weight, or losing what made the original BRZ so special. Here is the untold story of how a small band of engineers working deep inside the Subaru Engineering and Development center created a sports car for the ages.
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I wish they put this much passion and effort into the 2022 wrx...
Yeah that thing fell flat, HARD
Amen
Lol right !
They did.
@@travisrose2277 you gotta stay true to the driving enthusiast front engine rear wheel drive high Erving naturally aspirated engine no nonsense interior just what is useful and top with the 6 speed manual trully a legend of a car
I wished they put these much effort on fixing the RTV and oil pressure drop issues.
was looking for this comment
Just dont track the vehicle....spirited public roads no problem with oil pressure
@@tone3560exactly. people thinking they are race car drivers acting like they are gonna take first place in whatever the fk race they imagine taking part of. just drive the car on your roads and have fun. its amazing. got to find something to hate on I guess
Agreed a lot of what people complain about is 1st world problems and minuscule inconveniences decades ago wouldn't have even came to fruition. In essence it is repulsive and disgusting people need a new hobby. @@thatanimator2724
@@thatanimator2724you do realize the Toyota model offered 1 year HPDE experience and advertised it to be on a track right? So it would be logical to expect an oiling issue seen on track..to be handled at a manufacturer level. But yes for the streets it is probably just fine
Love my Red 22 BRZ Limited. Puts a smile on my face every time i drive it.
You're one of the lucky ones my friend
on behalf of all owners i want to extend my gratitude to Mr Inoue and his team for giving us the car we always knew it could be, their hard work shows in the final product that we all get to enjoy on a daily basis
Subaru is a dream drive any day
When I first saw an MX5 in 1989 I loved them. Three years ago I was shopping for a new car for my sister and we visited a Mazda dealership … MX5 in cherry red was sitting in the showroom (my sister bought a Skoda which has been a great car and purchase) … it was just too impractical.
When the BRZ first arrived I just loved the look of the detail of the car. Early in 2023 I first saw a second gen BRZ on the road and by chance I saw one in a car park about a month later. The idea grew! Short of it is after two visits to a dealer and lots of yes no yes no I took a blue demo car for a drive. In less than three kilometres I knew. Order has been placed. Funny thing is I’ve only seen about 5 of these cars on the road and not one GR86 but last week saw a silver one parked … the fine detail of these cars is amazing.
Manual, white, Ts. Will not be modified. Will be kept simple. It’s about the driving and the machine. I always suspected I’d own a Soobie one day.
@Subaru I see you are on the same track we are experiencing low oil pressure while taking right hand sweepers/corners. Did you by chance experience the same during your testing of this platform?
I think they did, that's why their race team BRZ(GT300) use an EJ engine.
@@Align700nitro I hope that is rule book related and not oil system design related.
@@MarkJCarruthers I sure hope so too, coincidently, the toyota GR86 race car also uses a 2UZ-FE engine. So both teams ditched the FA motor.
@@Align700nitrothe GT300 car has always used a EJ. All Subaru race cars use EJ20 (WRC cars, the GT300 cars, their Nürburgring attempt cars, their endurance race cars, their isle of man car, the US rally cars, etc) because it's the best engine for race applications. The platform has the most R&D and mass money already invested behind it. The parts, supply chains, R&D, etc is already there, and it's already race proven. These are highly specialist EJ engines, built for the sole purpose of racing. The other engines they use are EJ2.3 etc for some of the US cars that Vermont have made also, for hoonigan etc. Like I said, EJ platform has like 30 years behind it (including in professional motorsport). The FA platform stock vs stock is a better engine, but the EJ is better to build for legitimate race applications and always will be, since cars are moving away from petrol. So the poor FA will never get the same chance and racing investment behind it that the EJ did.
I understand the brz loses oil pressure on right hand turns during trackdays - is there a sump baffle in the works?
Please fix the low oil pressure during right hand corners and the RTV issue. Please. It’s getting embarrassing to have such a great chassis with such a glaring issue.
I really like this car. For someone who wants a manual, rwd, naturally aspirated, low center of gravity sports car that doesn't cost an arm and a leg to purchase, (or maintain), its the best choice on the market right now. Sure there are faster out there, but there will always be faster no matter what you buy. Too me simplicity is paramount to a true sportscar.
This car only rival is the mx5 and no turbo 4banger will drive like a true sports car.
Too bad they refuse to fix the oiling and rtv issues. But mine is fun to drive. Afraid to take it to autoX and Track now. Without doing some major upgrades to the engine. Thanks, SUBARU. I asked the local dealer to drop my oil pan to check for the RTV issues and the refused they basically told me my engine need to be damaged first before they will do it.
I don't know if they have oil squirters like every other car in the world nowadays but if they don't that is probably why they blow up
The car is fine for daily driving
@@growingup4487 Yup that's true. I think most of the issues are being caused by money shifting. But who really knows.
@@CrazyCat229 its well documented that right turns at speed (especially right turns involving elevation change) cause the oil pressure to drop significantly. Footage shows oil pressure dropping from 60 PSI all the way down to pressures in the 20's. It seems every FA24 engine has this issue, it's scary and crazy they're shipping "cars great for the track" with an issue like this that can easily result in catastrophic failure.
Was the point of my comment.
Great film!
Long live the BRZ!
I sincerely hope the BRZ has a next generation planned!!
Also hope if there is a track related oil pressure issue, that this is addressed to keep owners enthusiastic and confident!
BRZ BRZ BRZ 💙
I love my 2016..........but I can't wait to drive one of these
Bought our 7th Subaru this year, a 21 Outback XT Touring. We love it. Please offer a turbo in the Crosstrek & Forester!
Don’t foresters have turbo? Cause my dad’s forester had a turbo
@@smileypaper5589 Subaru only offered the turbo option on the 1st & 2nd Gen Foresters, not the 3rd.
@@chrisb9478 there is definitely more than 3 generations of foresters...
Yeah, Teddy’s right. I think Gen1-3 offered Turbo. 4 & 5 do not. Although Japan has a new 1.8Turbo in theirs.
And what about the warranty denial in the case of sport use of a sport car?
I’m waiting for this in the Philippines. 😍 I already have the 2016 and I love every part of it!
From France with passion and respect ✌🏼🇨🇵😎
#ProudofBoxer
I just got this car a week ago and it is phenomenal! I love my 2020 but the 2022 is improved in so many ways. I’m so excited to own/drive this car. Cannot wait to etch Mike after mile and not park it in a garage like some old Porsche owners. (I’d love to own a Porsche and drive the balls off of one someday)
Whose Mike? Do you get about the same mileage as your 1st gen? Brz owner here and looking forward to some day buy the new one. Cheers
@@saulespino2510 c’mon, typo/autocorrect LOL **Can’t wait to drive mile after mile. I think the old one had better mileage. I don’t baby the car too much has wise so I average about 20.5mpg. The car feels great but some people are losing engines. Maybe wait til they figure out why right handers are dropping oil pressure into the 20 range.
@@ryanrebensdorf5116yes on the right hander question!
This engine was designed for cars less likely to take higher g-loads…
This should be addressed with at least SPT parts for track driving!?!
More ideally a redesign and recall for oiling properly under spirited driving conditions- the intended use of BRZ’s and 86’s.
@@ScottoGrotto absolutely! There was a statement made by Subaru about them standing by this engine as it’s in use in thousands of vehicles across their lineup. However, like you pointed out, I don’t think they considered the application in the 86/BRZ situation. There’s no way they could have. From what I’ve seen, even the baffles aren’t working. It seems like a design flaw that should be addressed. It sucks to live with the thought of this car having an engine failure as a current owner.
love my 2023, but is the HP rating accurate? seems more like 235-240 at the crank when you look at everyone's dyno results
0:33 That's just heaven for my eyes..
very well done subaru. Thank you fork keeping these alive.
WR pearl Limited coming in 2 weeks.. can't wait!!!!
Whats up with the rtv in oil pickup? I’m waiting on you guys to fix it so I can buy one.
Love my 23 limited 6 manual.
So great please sell Subaru BRZ in Korea!!! I love Subaru ❤ My Subaru saved me from car crash and it is gone...
I love this video but for all of this, there is still oil pressure drops on right turns and an rtv issue. Subaru how big are these problems?
Too bad engines are not part of the "reliability" . my 2017 WRX engine blew up under warranty and now this car has engine issues too.
The engine is fine, you guys just love to complain about the nothing. It's literally .00001% of the new BRZs that have dealt with any engine failures.
@@moldyrefrigerator you're *literally* making up statistics. There are less than 10k 2nd-gen BRZ sales. Considering there has been 1+ reported failures, it is *literally* impossible for only ".00001% of the new BRZs that have dealt with any engine failures"
thank you subaru for developing the 86
Low pressure oil on right turns engine will blow up
This is AT LEAST the third time they've rereleased this video.
I keep losing my mind thinking I haven’t watched it when this video keeps appearing on my feed
Problem is, nothing is available! Watched the wrx debut 2 months ago, and i wont be able to get one for another 6 months at least!!
all that work to make a car that cant make a right hand turn without blowing up.
Bravo 👏 I can't wait to buy one. On the waiting list now. :)
same here
GREAT S2K replacement!
Job well done Subaru team.
Agreed. Cost of the s2k aside, at this point, the only major benefit of the s2k over this new brz is that its a convertible but if you are a performance/track guy, you wouldn't want a convertible's body flex so thats mainly a preference thing.
The other minor benefit(some will argue that its major but this is from a stock-to-stock perspective as modified cars have too many variables) and that is:
S2K has a more reliable factory engine still, the RTV issue is still present but apparently not as bad as the 1st gen and engine oil starvation issues. But im sure that if subaru/toyota doesn't fix it soon, the aftermarket will(and do it better im sure).
4:58 Last time you've uploaded this video, you said up 15%. Now 18%.
Let me do the math for you: 151 -> 184 is "up 21.85%".
Something was lost in TRANSLATION lol
Their math is backwards. Up from 151 to 184 is 21.85%. If it went down from 184 to 151is a reduction of 17.93%
Hopefully it wasnt the engineers that did that math..!!
They were saving that for the next video!
Funny they bring up the super gt brz cause that car doesn’t run the FA engine. Lol
Please do this to the next imprezza and wrx
6:45 ... that is it. Affordable and driven daily. Hell yes.
I wonder if the ''race car'' also oil starve in right handers, like the production, ''track-ready'' car.
Probably not, it has STI baffling unlike the production car, where it is near impossible to turn right without issues
“Reliability” 😂
So what exactly did Toyota’s Gazoo Racing division contribute to the manufacturing process, design and performance?
the badges ? 🤪
Too bad, it can only make left hand turn.
Oil starvation?
@@SK-tr1wo Yes, significant oil pressure drop in sustained high G RH turn.
How much does the race car physically share with the road going BRZ? That looked full tube frame with push-rod suspension...
You''re pretty accurate in your estimation 😬
Yet they missed the oil pressure issue with all this supposed testing? If a home user can find that issue as if they didn't know, they must have just figured it's cheaper to fix them as they break and try and recall it later with a new oil pan or something.
You can’t get this car in the uk, so I had to get the gr86
Is this the third reupload?? That's just gonna get a dislike from me honestly
I was thinking the same thing? Why are they doing this? It was fine the second time but again??
@@A52_E92 In one of the previous versions they incorrectly said that torque is up 15% at 4:58. Now they say it's up 18%... ALSO INCORRECTLY :D
@@TimurIskhodzhanov oh lol. That explains it, but still kinda makes me want to leave a dislike even more now 😅 I won't. Just not getting my like this time
So Toyota did GR so you should do BRZ STI please pretty pretty please
Thank you Subaru family. God bless you.
We have a winning machine 🍻
Amazing
Wish it got the front end of the GR86.
Why wasn't this effort put into the WRX?
How much HP you think the stock block can hold “reliably”?
300, just a guess
Probably not much more then the old one since it’s the same engine with a bit longer stroke.
GR86: Hello bro
It's awesome you're still doing this car. I just really don't like it's front end redesign... looks too simple. I'm sorry. The old more radical old headlights rule. These look cool too but they look too much like everything else on the road right now. :/
Love it
Maybe you should’ve put more work into building a better oil pan. FIX THE FA24!!!!!
Manz name is "Speeds"..."Scott Speeds" with a triple "S"
🔥🔥
My family loves you please Do Not solely use CVT please for any of the models *legacy
Zero research and development went into oil pressure it would seem.
I verry like subaru car, but i can't buy hahaha
I prefer the Toyota front design
Now if only Subaru would actually make some so you can actually get one.
Here for the owners that say everyone thinks their car is a Porsche😂
If it had just little more power it would be the best car for the next 5 years no joke .300 hp would be perfect
Getting there is going to be so easy with basic mods this time around though so they have that going for it
Wont even need 300 honestly. These engines with the high compression and cam profile they have dont really make big numbers with boost anyways. It just makes them a time bomb. E85 tune with some intake and exhaust mods this car will make 250 to the wheels, which I guess is actually pretty close to 300 at the crank. Early dynos show they make about 210 to wheels as is, so they are clearly under rated.
@@boost331 these won’t blow though the rods pistons and walls are twice as thick in the FA24 than they were in the FA24
@@S.E.T.4Life The boosted ones are in the ascent and outback. Doesnt mean the NA ones are.
@@boost331 it is watch engineering explained’s video on it
I can't believe they just pronounced イノウエ "yee-no-ay" 😅 2:04
Elbet bir gün.
“it must be as reliable, as it is thrilling,” thrilling yes but reliable no lol my 2022 brz blew
Put this effort into the wrx and sti .and put the brz with more power
Definitely a butt hole clenching experience from start to finish!
too bad the oil pressure problem still isnt fixed and when the motor blows they'll refuse to honor the warranty 👎👎👎
Sounds good. Lines are too soft though. Looks like a Honda….
Sobs in rear end of 2022 WRX
Nah I think it’s great, I like the kinda “blank slate” look they went for. Leaves room for people like you that want a more aggressive look 🤷♂️
When you hear people wanting it to have MORE and HIGH horses out of the factory VS what this R&D and PR team are saying = This BRZ
Dear Subaru Managers,
Im sorry to tell, but u crapped up.
Yes its a beautiful car and handling is fine.
BUT THE ENGINE IS CRAP (quality wise) AND OUTDATED. IF AT LEAST U WOULD IMPLENT A 2.0 TURBO ENGINE WHICH WOULD USE LESS FUEL AND GIVE WAY MORE POWER.
BUT INSTEAD ITS AN 30 YEARS OLD OUTBACK ENGINE WITH LITTLE TWEAKS. Just take a look at oil pressure gauge... oh yes u left it out, so the consumer does not see how bad the circulation is...
Im sure that are enough drivers out there that would pay extra for a good engine bc it would be worth.
SUBARU HAS LOST EUROPE ...
No one buys them anymore around here for some reasons.
NOT TO MENTION THE POOR PAINT AND RUST PREVENTION...
( 2012 Forester shs was bad, 2018 outback even worse)
U can do better...
Please please come out with a Turbo version
find crashed Ascent and pull header and turbo and tune it lol. because cost and position I don't they are going to do it. That's what STi does.
It will be $50K and you will complain about the price and you will not buy it. That's the truth.
@@mjor6406 You're so sure of yourself. I've had 3 STI's. Wouldn't do without the turbo.
@@barcrrt850 sti is a sedan 400 lbs more than the brz and AWD. You wouldn't be able to handle a 300+ hp rwd 2780 lbs sports car.
@@mjor6406 You know nothing about me. But you love to run your mouth. People like you get into trouble with other people. I do not like you one single bit. Find a lake you are comfortable with, and jump in it.
love my 2023 brz. haters gonna hate and complain about anything, like their 1995 family SUV is any better
This ad exact for americans.... %)
So thats how Toyota did it
Oh u wanna shit stuff off in certain states huh Subaru because I I want to be able to fix my car lol bye-bye Subaru
For me the new car looks like Mazda :/
That doesn’t sound like a bad thing tho
The engine is the biggest downside
They forgot the part where TOYOTA did HALF the WORK.
Not quite. Toyota provided most of the funding, the port+direct injection system, and did most of the styling (and a Toyota supplier did the transmission). The vast majority of the critical components (engine, suspension layout, chassis) was done by Subaru's engineers. The suspension is heavily related to the Impreza WRX.
It went more like ( we're going to completely ignore everything the entire community wanted and change the headlights and upcharge it 10k)
Lol you just don't get it. 🤣
Take the Toyota out of it.
It was designed and engineered by Toyota you DF.
@@mjor6406 @Trace it's the other way around. Toyota provided most of the financing, styling (or at least major hardpoints like silhouette, windshield points, etc), the dual port+direct injection system, and a Toyota supplier provided the RWD-only transmission. The other major components, which are more responsible for what the car *is*, i.e. chassis, suspension, engine, were all Subaru.
@@jsquared1013 lol Toyota designed the chassis and the injectors. They presented the car to Subaru but Subaru wanted it to be AWD. Toyota said no. We want it rwd. So when the car was done Subaru people couldn't believe how good it handled.
@@mjor6406 subaru did the chassis
@@Jez4prez1 Toyota designed everything. Subaru built the car.
still slow
OUCH MY EYES ;/ i dont like this car
What's wrong with the look? Where has individuality gone? Is this Nissan? Porshe? Where is that unique Subaru styling? Where are the echoes of the WRX STI? Oh guys ...
This is such a joke lol. Calling it a sports car is the biggest stretch 😂😂. An fa20 belongs in the trash
It does not use the fa20 anymore
Subaru has mastered the AWD system but did not add it to this wonderful BRZ 🤦🏻♂️ I just found out today that I can’t buy this because it’s only rear-wheel drive 😒 Maybe next year it will be an option?
😂😂😂
Love it!
Step one:
Buy a GT86/FRS ( if not )
the other other step one:
Let Toyota and Scion buy your car and sell a rebadged version