@@Vephiren Not at all, the only way I could cry on command is if I have someone perfusly kicking me in the balls over and over again, but if it's easy, alright.
@@imppro except hes not, no one likes him at all, most the people he meets want him dead, to be a gary stu similar to a mary sue everyone you meet likes you, you have few enemies, everything is easy mode, and usually no training needed, we see galen marek train constantly through out his 2 games(still salty we never got the third part to wrap it up)
Starkiller hyping up and cheering up Cal instead of making him feel lame comparing his feats and abilities him is so heart warming, it reminds of the Andrew and Tobey interaction in No Way Home.
And it isn’t entirely far off, considering that while he may be a (former) Sith Warrior raised by perhaps one of the deadliest Sith in this universe’s history, both him and his clone learn to make friends with other people and are somewhat laidback when they aren’t out on missions slaughtering giant beasts and whole armies or stressing over conflicting loyalties or an identity crises.
Funny thing is that in the next game, cal has some obviously Star killer inspired abilities and lightsaber abilities, especially with duel sabers. Infact, in one of his kill animations with the duel sabers, he throws both his lightsabers into the chest of a enemy in the same way as Starkiller. Speaking of throwing, his charged saber throw with the duel lightsabers is extremely similar to Star killer’s.
People fail to release that George Lucas wanted to show everyone what Luke would’ve been if he was trained by Vader, so insert Starkiller. All of his feats are strong sure but in the novels his father grabbed a tie fighter, which is a high level feat compared to movies and shows and Vader said his father was a weak Jedi compared to one’s he’s killed before. Limitations in the movies and shows have really made the fandom think force users cannot do similar things to Starkiller when they can in many comics/novels.
@@ultimatesora4467Maybe actually look up the words you're using. Being strong doesn't make someone a Gary Stu. He was trained by Darth Vader. No shit he's strong. Does he have a personality? Yes. He's he always treated as in the right? No. So he's not a Gary Stu
@@peterstamerra445 Hopefully when Jedi Survivor 3 comes out, we see how Cal fares against a Gorog. Also, Jedi Survivor made the Rancor an actual threat again (Take notes, Book of Boba Fett).
Stormtrooper 1: "Bro. Cal took out some Inquisitors and some of our best troopers." Stormtrooper 2: "Starkiller lift my buddy in the air, let him get incinerated by the Death Star laser, killed several Royal Guards, Sith Lord illusions, SEVERAL Rancors, and took down a Star Destroyer from orbit!" Starkiller: "So did you fight Vader?" Cal: "Yeah. And I lived." Starkiller: "Word. Mad respect."
I mean, Cal never fought Vader (unless he actually fought in second game. Haven't played yet cuz I don't have newer Xbox, stuck on Xbox one for now) in first game he just ran
Real talk here, Starkiller doing his best to cheer up Cal and point out his good points is a level of heartwarming I wouldn't have expected from these videos.
My previous comment being said, I DO respect Cal. He still managed to earn the right to say "I faced THE Darth Vadar, and lived" when for many others it's basically "you see him, you have died already".
I do think Vader will kill him at the end of the third game, or Cal will sacrifice himself to save others with Vader encroaching. I want to believe he's just hiding until 35ABY, but I think they're gonna break our hearts.
No one will be starkiller, but starkiller. However, I think we can all agree that Cal kestis is the coolest Canon character to join the Star Wars universe in at least a decade
Cal’s a genuinely good protagonist (By Disney’s Star Wars standards) and honestly big props to the man for finally getting the girl, but let’s be real Starkiller was just built different.
@@yaelz6043 to be fair his death lead to the creation of the rebellion also we dunno what’ll happen to Cal in the 3rd game. Cause we all know they’re gonna make another one.
@@Beebok_Beebop That's kinda the point of the Unleashed games. He's a dumb power fantasy, and they have fun with that. It's unapologetically edgy and stupid, and that's what made it so fun. The What If DLCs were even edgier to the point where you could make Han shoot Chewbacca or Luke turn to the dark side, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
I love his reaction to starkiller using force repulsion. The reason no one else ever used it is because it's banned by both Jedi and sith. If you do it wrong you vaporize everyone near you as well as yourself
Yeah, really bothers me when people call that a bullshit power. It's not, it's a 50/50 that if lost will literally turn you into dust and there's absolutely nothing you can do to avoid it.
Sith don't ban Force Powers, man. They may decide to neglect teaching it to their Apprentice, but they don't ban any form of power. Like, if they did, they wouldn't be Sith. It'd go against there code, "Be free of my Chains," and all that.
If Rick The Door Technician was at Kamino then Starkiller would have never broke free. Rick is literally a legendary Boss. So glad he let Cal win to boost his confidence.
If Rick the door techinician was sent to fight starkiller in the death star mission in the first game he could have killed starkiller then the rebel alliance wouldn`t be made
@@speedycheese790 Strange aside from the overpowered stuff which could be nerfed. I always thought his story would fit right in not to mention add more context to the fact that Vader or Palpatine could be defeated.
He was the coolest character and sadly decanonized. The books were very cool too! People who don’t like him are normally either really pissed that Vader got defeated once (even though that isn’t the biggest deal lol) And then there are the chill people who don’t like Galen just because they don’t.
@@theholyderp4286I don't mind them decanonizing him, he was doing a bit too much but he was cool and people put way to much are about what's canon especially when most of the writers don't care and will mess things up every other show/game/movie/book
@@zechariahcaraballo8765 I just find it funny that people will get so upset about Galen but then never have the same energy about legends palpatine that could quite literally drain the lifeforce off the face of a planet lmao
@@theholyderp4286 I mean to be fair, Palpatine isn't the only one who could do that. Nihilus could too and I'm much more mad about him than Palpatine. Old or new cannon at least Palpatine still exists. My favorite Sith Lord ain't even canon anymore according to Disney
@@connorharnage6697 oh don’t get me wrong I don’t mind if people hate on legends stuff I just was making the point that it’s so dumb that most everyone’s arguments agaisnt star killer is that it’s not canon but won’t keep the same energy when the 80% majority of Star Wars isn’t canon anyways now thanks to Disney
@@TipoIrritable you’ve commented this a few times, what are you trying to achieve here? Sure legends luke would clap both of them, but even ROTJ luke would get beaten by starkiller. You saw what happened to Jedi Leia in the DLC, and starkiller performed better against both Vader and the emperor than luke did in the films.
Hey, you have to consider the training both Cal Kestis and Galen Marek went through. Galen received a lot of training based on Sith teachings. Hence, why he's able to do far more brutal things than Cal.
Not to mention the fact that Proxy was programmed to try to kill him at least once a day ever since Galen was a kid, and had programings of lightsaber styles from various jedis and siths he data on
And he was trained under Vader himself throughout his life before his first mission. So it must be one hell of a training that we yet to know he was put under besides being trained by proxy
The star destroyer thing is a big feat of his, and everyone complains about it being representative of his OP state. But when hearing those complaints about how big it is, am i the only one who remembers Yoda talking about how "Size matters not" to Luke and how Luke struggles with the X-wing because of the mental weight hes giving it?
Ok, but hear me out, size matters not, is like saying the weight of a gallon of milk ain’t much, and you can get used to it to an 8 yr old, mean while, starkillers out here deadlifting 1,000+lbs and being chill about it, not to mention them fucking cells or whatever that are apart of the force that birthed skywalker, forgot the name, they limit the power of ones compatibility with the force, anakin was one of the most powerful Jedi ever in that time because of it, and starkiller spits in the face of that too, it’s not so much size that matters, it’s scale, the star destroyer was probably trying to move away from him to escape, and still couldn’t, this makes him the only force capable person, I think ever, able to theoretically pull an asteroid in from space and just drop it, killing everyone, which, if done right, could compete with the likes of the Death Star, especially the second one, of which was a super weapon, and used as star wars equivalent of a nuclear bomb. He ruins any and all conception of scale.
@@Yomotomenthe star destroyer was already destroyed, like it’s in a junk planet’s orbit just chilling already. So he really just needed to pull the nose to cause it to start falling towards the planet
@@YomotomenI mean Yaddle once kept an entire ass planet together after it tried to shake itself to pieces. Or maybe that was Yarrel Poof, I don’t remember. It’s still an incredibly impressive feat nonetheless given Starkiller's young age and lack of experience though.
I mean, we’re comparing a padawn with a decent force sensitivity to a full on Sith apprentice trained BY VADER with a strong connection to the force. Cal accomplished a lot with very little; Starkiller had a lot going for him already.
@@nathanielzoelle who was weaker than the original like remember the book original starkiller blitzed and outdueled vader while the clone was struggling baaaad like he only won thx to force lightning which wasn´t as cool as the qte in the game just full power force lightning no powering up with the storms of camino
Closest thing to Ogddo Bogdo for Galen would probably be the Bull Rancor on Felucia. Or possibly the junk golems he fights on Raxxus Prime while going to kill Kazdaan Paratus. There aren't a lot of beastly foes in either game surprisingly.
Bro, the sheer trauma of mentioning Ogddo Bogdo I felt that. And the best part? Your reward for defeating him in Jedi Survivor, ain't the poncho. It's just more pain and suffering once you enter the Force Tear in Doma's shop out of curiosity.
@@mrver427 and I was the idiot who did it early on in my first playthrough (no purity perk available), went straight to Doma's shop after unlocking the poncho, on foot which means I never saved at a meditation spot, proceeded to die 50x times in that stupid Force Tear until my game crashed. So I had to do it all again
@@ML-sc3pt Anything higher than Jedi Knight difficulty and they are SUPER aggressive. If you handicap yourself (like me), no blaster stance, no embrace darkness and without NG+ for purity, the tear is just pure hell I cried when I fought the double Rancors (back 2 back)
I never paid attention to Star Wars except Lego Star Wars and force unleashed, so when I learned how much of a demon god he is I now understand why everyone fear him
Oggdo Boggdo is a trial by fire, every death at his hands is a lesson and every respawn you come back stronger. And by the time you're finally strong enough to beat him, nothing else can stand in your way. And the best thing is, learning to beat Oggdo is like riding a bike. Even years after I've last played Fallen Order I can still beat him on my first try. All those other deaths were worth it.
I honestly feel bad for the storm troopers the disrespect that happens to them such as, getting disintegrated, when they went against cal and he slowed time and wiped their whole squad, and on top of that they can’t shoot for their life. I feel bad for dem doc
Funny enough In Survivor the soliders do state they aim is ass because they exhausted, hungry, and havent slept in days. Finally some actual reason as to why they aim is cheeks lol
Cal’s biggest W is bagging Merrin and living to enjoy it How many Jedi you know bag a wife, let alone a night sister baddie? Also W Afro senju reference, my bro is suffering 😂
Jedi are not supposed to get married .and the reason is because they can be manipulated it's a major weakness. It's exactly how the chosen one became Darth Vader
@@hittingdasauce I’d think that they’d Balance each other out, Cal being his teacher in emotional matters like balancing his darkness with his light side and starkiller would teach him the physical aspects like lightsaber combat and force moves, teaching him to use the dark side to his advantage but not letting it control him
Cal's dark mode at the end of Jedi: Survivor story had me feeling incredibly strong I got to kill some of the toughest enemies with ease using that ability. It really did remind me of Starkiller's unleashed mode. I can only hope that in a dlc or a 3rd Cal Kestis game he gets to spend more time being incredibly strong. That said there's also a new game + perk that makes you and all enemies do a lot more dmg could be a little bit closer to that power fantasty.
I'd love to play at Vader level for part of the game just like the dark side power up at the end of survivor. Heck even a dark skill tree would be cool! Cere being an original character killed by Vader builds up the villain in the narrative and builds a narrative for Cal. However I'm worried that a fight with Vader would be made canon and if it is then we know Vader doesn't die.
That Oggdo-Boggdo was seriously difficult. Even more in Jedi Survivor, because those Oggdo’s tongue grapple attacks are an instant kill, which you can sometimes escape by using slow. If you’re lucky, slow glitches you out of the grapple. But in Fallen Order, if you’re at a reasonable difficulty, it’s just a highly damaging attack, that you CAN survive with enough health. And can I say fighting TWO of them at once, is just a nightmare. (Not as much as a Rancor though…).
little trick i found for fighting both the Oggdo's and the rancor's is that even a single blaster shot when they begin an unblockable attack will cancel their attack and stagger them, giving you an opening to perform a combo on them with your secondary stance for some high damage.
In fallen order when oggdo is about to do the tongue attack you can force pull his tongue out and chop it off. Rest of the fight is trivial. In Survivor oggdo was like the vader of all animals
@Battered_FannySure but on Gm difficulty if you fuck up the timing just once during that fight (and it's long) you die instantly. Atleast on its unblockable attacks. The only way I could beat it was to pull the two "hammer guys" into the pit with me. And even then it took several tries.
The slow mo ability is called Stasis. You surround the target with energy and either slow down everything caught in the blast or stop movement entirely. It’s actually a neutral power as Jedi and Sith have used it.
I read a time travel fanfic where the council had to call a meeting to discuss Cal using Stasis cause they thought it was the dark force’s Slow. It was really funny.
SPOILERS FOR JEDI SURVIVOR I mean regardless of what we calling it Cal DEFINITELY started using the dark side version of it at the end of the most recent game. I do think the original was dark side-y tho based on lore and the fact it stemmed from his emotional reaction to his master dying
Cal doesn't know Force Slow (but you're right, it is a Sith move); he has Force _Stasis_ which, like, it's not a _Sith_ move but it _is_ the same move Kylo Ren uses to stop blaster bolts mid-air. Force Slow is actually more along the line of using the Force to make your enemy tired so they slow down.
@@TipoIrritable It's a shame that his greatest feats aren't canon anymore. I wish canon Luke had more skills from his Legends counterpart. The Force Projection thing was cool, though. Probably the only part of that movie I liked.
There's no such thing as Jedi move, Sith move, and any other shit. Force belongs to everyone. Jedi and Sith are just sects using Force in their specific ways because of how they have been teached by their masters. If there's Jedi, Sith then any other Force sect can exist too.
@@LukiKruki I never denied the existence of other sects; I just called Force Slow a Sith move because that's what most people are familiar with. Would you have prefered that I call it a 'Dark-side Ability'? Or do you deny the existance of the Dark Side?
Fun fact: that whole repulses turning Stormtroopers to dust thing was only a game mechanic for censorship. In reality, when Starkiller tapped the deepest into the Force at the cloning lab, his repulses were strong enough pulverize the growing clones' bodies, turning them into paste and making a red mist out of their blood.
@@JDWalker495 Revan wasn’t even that broken in the OG KOTOR games either! Revan is my favorite Star Wars character too and I can still admit that Starkiller wrecks Revan’s shit. Now Darth Nihilus on the other hand, would decimate Star Killer, but I don’t think many Sith can defeat the dude who EATS PLANETS 🤣
To Cal's credit, he did manage to stay alive and get with a Nightsister in the end. That's sizeable W in my book + You know that kid's gonna be OP, lmao
That's purely because starkiller was trained by Vader, he is massively buffed in the games as he is onoy obi wan level in the comics, cal had his connection to the force fucked up and barely had any training before order 66
Yeah I mean, Cal had almost no training after the purge, then he just ignored his force powers for a really long time, if he actually kept training and had a mentor I bet he would be somewhat comparable to Galen
Cal basically missed out on a decade of training. Plus, I reckon a good amount of training he did get was just theoretical basics, whereas Starkiller got nothing but constant combat training.
@@onyx6774Vader stopped a ship going into hyperspace…. And starkiller rocked his shit like a Tuesday night shift…. No wonder Vader tried to get a clone of him to be his again
@@xXevilsmilesXx ...Dude. The book came out in 2008. Disney didn't buy Star Wars until 2012. At the risk of sounding like a crotchety old Jedi myself, your anger blinds you.
Starkiller was fully trained by Vader. He didn't just have his mind warped as a youngling he was trained SPECIFICALLY to take on jedi masters such as Shak-ti and WIN!
Bruh EXACTLY! Mfs saying he's "TOO OP?!" forget that. Like who else has pulled Vader's blade out of his hand mid swing and he not even see it coming? And bucko was 5! He was already strong as fuck in the Force, and then after everything Vader and Proxy done to him plus anything else he's been through? How could you not be OP? but if you say he's too OP you have to say Vader's too OP cuz both Sam and Lucas swear Vader was holding back but I call bullshit.
@@HORROR-vt1gm according to novel which is canonically above the game, Galen defeated Vader by luckly landing force lighting on his suit systems, basically same thing that killed him in ROTJ but less lethal, Emperor killed Galen pretty quickly. And TFU 2 isnt canon.
@@andrewstickadius4333 it sucks too bc it had SOOOOOO much potential if they got to cook more. The gameplay was overall better but the bosses (except Vader) were ass and it was too short
Being a force user or non force user is such a struggle on one hand your rather A getting hunted by the galaxy (because i doubt the empire is hiring like that) or B your dying because of an unhinged space wizard
*Casually raises hand* Um... actually, it was falling out of orbit towards the planet. He redirected it so it didn't kill him, not straight up pulled it out of the sky. So nah, he couldn't do that. But still, not at all shabby for something that weighed about 40 million tons.
Dark Side Starkiller was BIG DIFFERENT, he manipulated Luke to join the dark side as his apprentice, Killed Obi-Wan Kenobi and Boba Fett, then later on killed Leia once she was trained in the force…there was no stopping this man
I don’t think he killed Boba, I think his helmet just fell off of his head after a strike reminiscent of Jangos death. You can see him escaping in the background of the end cutscene of the fight.
My bad, that may have been Starkiller. However, you can see that the explosion did blow his head off, as his head was not in the helmet. He could have escaped theoretically, but who knows.
I don't know a single person who was able to Kill a Jedi master and then kill the ghost he killed a fucking ghost not a single Jedi or Sith has ever done that well as far as I know
@@Tyson-zs1kg consuming force sensitive spirits is actually a pretty normal thing that's happened before. For example, Darth nihilus as the main one, Darth Nox as a more niche one (literally had an entire act dedicated to just eating ghosts), Vitiate had a whole planet of sith he just ate the souls of.
Starkiller was everything you wanted to be, and Cal was that realism aspect. Starkiller never really struggled throughout the story as much, and I was kinda relieved when we had a protagonist in Fallen Order who didn't just absolutely body Darth Vader
Saying he didn't struggle at all is a bit much. Yes, his power allowed him to win all of his fights, but he only got that way due to brutal training under Darth Vader. His struggle is mostly internal as he transitions from Sith apprentice to Jedi. In the books, his force and lightsaber abilities are closer to par than depicted in game. He is powerful, but not overpowered. Even in the games, he fights like a very strong rogue who has a bag of tricks that can capitalize on his opponents weaknesses. Not someone who just bodies every strong opponent instantly.
Cal can't even 1 shot a normal ass stormtrooper he is not realistic at all xD....can that dude even throw a lightsaber in game? I swear I've never seen it happen a single time
Starkiller really doing the most he puts lighting (something that burns your enemies) into his lightsabers (which one shots) to then attack you multiple times like there’s no reason for him too put the shit in his lightsabers it’s just for style and I’m here for it 😂
To be fair, in the second game, you are able to sweep multiple enemies with that move, so I'd say it's pretty useful if you want to take down multiple enemies at once and quickly, or at least stun them, while in close quarters. Sure he could throw his lightsabers or use force repulse, but the lightning infused sabers doesn't seem to drain his force meter, so it's useful if you're temporarily drained of the force meter, and need to attack multiple enemies at once while close.
4:24 fun fact in the DLC’s for the bad ending there’s a model of Starkiller without the armor on and its just what’s under it and it is some sci-fi Frankenstein nightmare fuel like aside from having loose wires, thin metal hands coming out of his skin and basically his upper torso being the only part visibly left his entire jaw is just GONE with just a few tubes there along with several plates keeping what’s left of his head from falling apart and red eye. Seriously look it up its some grade A body Horror when you analyze it enough.
i saw it. "cybernetic reconstruction". god, not only was he crushed, but he was torn in half. he DEFINITELY was dead...until he was revived with his brain and organs being put into a mechanical body. the way his face is just...plastered on a terminator-like head. the only real part from his corpse is his torso and arms, and the skin of his face. everything else is just machine. and if you look closely, i believe you can see his heart under his halved torso. and the fact his lungs are crushed. making breathing absolute agony for him. starkiller really did suffer a horrible fate on the dark side ending. jesus, and i thought the unmasked face of the sith stalker you fight in the jedi temple was what he really looked like. nuh uh. if galen changed without the mutilation of his corpse, maybe. but that was not the case here.
@@shazaz1059 for real and honestly what’s more impressive is Sith Lord Starkiller was basically more machine than Grievous was like he was nothing but a upper torso, less than half a skull remaining and whatever parts of his limbs were still flesh it was just stapled together, I’m honestly impressed his brain was somehow still intact cause you know a good portion of that is also just metal too.
Even after starkiller is helping Cal out of his self doubt ,he still roasting him after Cal mention of the wild life boss fight which Cal got back to his self doubt😂😂.
As a Ginger, Cal is pretty much the perfect Jedi for me. Though he seems to be leaning Gray, so I’m excited to see when he is a Master in the future Don’t forget about Cal starting to master style switching of multiple saber forms though!
@@SuperEarth_ArmedForces Ehhh I dunno about Obiwan. He was Ginger for just Episode 2 and George Lucas slapped brown back on him after that. Plus Obi Wan is pure Jedi. Not Gray’ish like Qui Gon
I'd love a crossover game where it's like a solo/co op game where you play as Cal and Star Killer. You'd be able to swap between then your friends could join in and play the character you're not using online or local. You'd have to use them to solve puzzles, fight bosses, explore the galaxy I'd think it'd be fun.
Starkiller: I never faced any of those creatures, actually. I was trained by Vader to hunt and kill Jedi. Biggest monster I ever killed was the Gorog actually. Cal: The Gorog? How big was that? Starkiller: It casually ate a Rancor as a snack. Like, one hand, dragged a fully grown Rancor into it’s pit and ate it in one bite. Cal: I feel very lucky to only have heard about this thing now. 😅
I always see Starkiller as the brute force character who in term of pure strength, he's the best. Cal is on the finesse side. Cal will adapt and overcome his enemies, while starkiller will just kill everyone with just one move
Should have mentioned the fact that he invaded the mind of one of the strongest knights of the old republic and killed him while Dagan was already inside Cal's mind. That was some inception type stuff
Keep in mind Starkiller was only 17 at the time of the first game and managed to put down Vader and at least hold his own against the Emperor for a bit.
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Bro did you just cry on command?
@@TheGoldenBat it’s not really hard to do lawl (please don’t take this in a negative way)
@@Vephiren Not at all, the only way I could cry on command is if I have someone perfusly kicking me in the balls over and over again, but if it's easy, alright.
@@TheGoldenBat ye
The difference is Cal is the Survivor.
Everyone that faces Starkiller and lives is the Survivor.
"Everyone that faces Starkiller and lives is the Survivor" naaa just naaa thay a victim
@@71midnightthey more of a victim if they don't survive
Starkiller just a Gary Stu ngl
Its crazy how Luke is totally in another leverl compared to them.
@@imppro except hes not, no one likes him at all, most the people he meets want him dead, to be a gary stu similar to a mary sue everyone you meet likes you, you have few enemies, everything is easy mode, and usually no training needed, we see galen marek train constantly through out his 2 games(still salty we never got the third part to wrap it up)
Starkiller hyping up and cheering up Cal instead of making him feel lame comparing his feats and abilities him is so heart warming, it reminds of the Andrew and Tobey interaction in No Way Home.
And it isn’t entirely far off, considering that while he may be a (former) Sith Warrior raised by perhaps one of the deadliest Sith in this universe’s history, both him and his clone learn to make friends with other people and are somewhat laidback when they aren’t out on missions slaughtering giant beasts and whole armies or stressing over conflicting loyalties or an identity crises.
real recognizes real. Bros help bros.
That was just holsome man..
Funny thing is that in the next game, cal has some obviously Star killer inspired abilities and lightsaber abilities, especially with duel sabers. Infact, in one of his kill animations with the duel sabers, he throws both his lightsabers into the chest of a enemy in the same way as Starkiller. Speaking of throwing, his charged saber throw with the duel lightsabers is extremely similar to Star killer’s.
@@TeenWithACarrotIDK When tf was this
Cal is when you want to make Star Wars feel grounded and realistic. Starkiller is power fantasy personified.
Facts.
People fail to release that George Lucas wanted to show everyone what Luke would’ve been if he was trained by Vader, so insert Starkiller. All of his feats are strong sure but in the novels his father grabbed a tie fighter, which is a high level feat compared to movies and shows and Vader said his father was a weak Jedi compared to one’s he’s killed before.
Limitations in the movies and shows have really made the fandom think force users cannot do similar things to Starkiller when they can in many comics/novels.
@@TheTwizted it’s funny cause in the game Koda said weight is meaningless to the force. Starkiller didn’t even know he could pull the starkiller down
@@ultimatesora4467Maybe actually look up the words you're using. Being strong doesn't make someone a Gary Stu. He was trained by Darth Vader. No shit he's strong. Does he have a personality? Yes. He's he always treated as in the right? No. So he's not a Gary Stu
@Ultimate Sora hol' up a minute, he may be busted but he ain't a Gary Stu, let's not forget he's Darth Vader's apprentice
I like how starkiller just left out the fact that he single handedly fought a monster the size of a building and won😅
He didn’t want Cal to feel bad about himself 😂
@@peterstamerra445 Hopefully when Jedi Survivor 3 comes out, we see how Cal fares against a Gorog. Also, Jedi Survivor made the Rancor an actual threat again (Take notes, Book of Boba Fett).
Dude that things punches shatter moons. Its mad powerful
@@Tenderofyggdrasil Somebody got the book lol
@@nehemiahbonilla9993 who? Me? No no I'm just a nerd
“PARRY??? You mean y’all had a chance to attack?” This shit had me dying😂😂😂😂😂😂
That’s definitely one of the best lines
Its crazy how Luke is totally in another leverl compared to them.
You can parry with Starkiller locking into the enemy and defending at the same time
Nahhh frrrr 😭
@@TipoIrritable legends luke yeah but canon luke gets folded by galen
Stormtrooper 1: "Bro. Cal took out some Inquisitors and some of our best troopers."
Stormtrooper 2: "Starkiller lift my buddy in the air, let him get incinerated by the Death Star laser, killed several Royal Guards, Sith Lord illusions, SEVERAL Rancors, and took down a Star Destroyer from orbit!"
Starkiller: "So did you fight Vader?"
Cal: "Yeah. And I lived."
Starkiller: "Word. Mad respect."
Any interaction with Darth Vader and getting out alive is a W
@@nou1282 facts even if he let's you get away, you still have to survive. Vader don't play no games.
Not really fight, more like block a hit and run
Vader literally has Black Forces Energy so survival is rare. That's a W in my eyes.
I mean, Cal never fought Vader (unless he actually fought in second game. Haven't played yet cuz I don't have newer Xbox, stuck on Xbox one for now) in first game he just ran
Real talk here, Starkiller doing his best to cheer up Cal and point out his good points is a level of heartwarming I wouldn't have expected from these videos.
Fr this part was great
Weirdly enough I could imagine Sam Witwer (Starkiller) and Cameron Monaghan (Cal) having that kinda conversation at a con or something
@AngryHomunculus id love them to do a video of this though with Mars doing the Stormtroopers and Rick 😂
it was like Toby and Tom tryna cheer up Andrew in No Way Home 😹
Its crazy how Luke is totally in another leverl compared to them.
The way he threw "on Palpatine" in there had me cracking up 😂
goes to show how strong Palpatine is
My previous comment being said, I DO respect Cal. He still managed to earn the right to say "I faced THE Darth Vadar, and lived" when for many others it's basically "you see him, you have died already".
I do think Vader will kill him at the end of the third game, or Cal will sacrifice himself to save others with Vader encroaching. I want to believe he's just hiding until 35ABY, but I think they're gonna break our hearts.
Beside Kenobi who faced him 3 times and won 2 out of three
"faced" is a strong word. More like he was tactically retreating from Darth Vader.
@@wowliker642 you do know that alone is a strong achievement, right?
@@MadZwe1 He technically didn’t do it alone he also had help from Cere and BD-1.
Rick the door technician was definitely the hardest boss in jedi survivor.
Had me used 4 stims to beat the guy
@@determinate2176 wait he's beatable?
@@dominicmiller7589 Yeah you have to kite him to a glitched corner and then he'll fall through the map, took me 3 hours to figure it out
@@oligb1469 wish i knew this beforehand thanks for the tip
Huh. I just die in 0.0000000000001 seconds when I fight him. Every. Single. Time.
No one will be starkiller, but starkiller. However, I think we can all agree that Cal kestis is the coolest Canon character to join the Star Wars universe in at least a decade
Not exactly a high bar there when you say a decade.
@@yaelz6043 gotta start somewhere
@@CrispyAndCaramel at this point they're just doing one good thing for every ten bad just to keep the fans paying.
@@CrispyAndCaramel He was lowkey a boring character, was still fun killing the main cast though
@@yaelz6043to be fair the games were really good
"let's just say the emperor got hands for real and leave it at that"
god that is so good
Cal’s a genuinely good protagonist (By Disney’s Star Wars standards) and honestly big props to the man for finally getting the girl, but let’s be real Starkiller was just built different.
I mean do you want to be the "built different" psycho who got killed by his boss or the guy who just did his thing and got the girl.
Literally built different as Star Killer in force unleashed 2 was a clone
Star Killer in the games was just a power fantasy, he wasn't that interesting to me. But I thought his progression to the light was nice
@@yaelz6043 to be fair his death lead to the creation of the rebellion also we dunno what’ll happen to Cal in the 3rd game. Cause we all know they’re gonna make another one.
@@Beebok_Beebop That's kinda the point of the Unleashed games. He's a dumb power fantasy, and they have fun with that. It's unapologetically edgy and stupid, and that's what made it so fun. The What If DLCs were even edgier to the point where you could make Han shoot Chewbacca or Luke turn to the dark side, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
I love his reaction to starkiller using force repulsion. The reason no one else ever used it is because it's banned by both Jedi and sith. If you do it wrong you vaporize everyone near you as well as yourself
Yeah, really bothers me when people call that a bullshit power.
It's not, it's a 50/50 that if lost will literally turn you into dust and there's absolutely nothing you can do to avoid it.
@@FeedMeChaos1 Hommies just angry and doesn't give af. Flip that coun and 30 dead troops or he dies. Win win for him.
Its crazy how Luke is totally in another leverl compared to them.
@@TipoIrritable You mean the loser who drinks milk?
Sith don't ban Force Powers, man. They may decide to neglect teaching it to their Apprentice, but they don't ban any form of power. Like, if they did, they wouldn't be Sith. It'd go against there code, "Be free of my Chains," and all that.
If Rick The Door Technician was at Kamino then Starkiller would have never broke free. Rick is literally a legendary Boss. So glad he let Cal win to boost his confidence.
Legendary comment right here
Rick a w fr
Rick the Door technician Vs Rick , Soldier of God ???? My money on the guy with the gun lol
If Rick the door techinician was sent to fight starkiller in the death star mission in the first game he could have killed starkiller then the rebel alliance wouldn`t be made
Rick is just galen's Alter-ego. He just wants cal to be hyped in the new canon.
Jedi Survivor:
Survive as a padawan during the purge
Force Unleashed:
*you are the force*
“I seen Vader ONE time and he got me playing temple run” 😂 that has me dying!
😂😂😂
Fr 😂
That actually happened in the game though. He ran on the bridge and it got ripped apart by vader
@@samuelgrant9813that’s his point
I remember playing that shit in 2017.
I swear *Starkiller* was done dirty by Disney.
He was the inspiration of the Rebellion symbol lore wise which is ironic given his upbringing.
Nah, George Lucas made him uncannon. He literally breaks lore entirely, so George Lucas had to intervene.
@@speedycheese790 Strange aside from the overpowered stuff which could be nerfed. I always thought his story would fit right in not to mention add more context to the fact that Vader or Palpatine could be defeated.
@@PrizMatex it could absolutely fit and one day they’ll make him canon I have a feeling
His family crest was also the literal symbol for the rebellion.
@@speedycheese790 you say that, george has stated the first game/novel was canon, light side ending anyway.
Starkiller is and always will be my favorite character in the entire Star wars lore.
"Parry?! You get a chance to attack?!"😂😂
He was the coolest character and sadly decanonized. The books were very cool too! People who don’t like him are normally either really pissed that Vader got defeated once (even though that isn’t the biggest deal lol)
And then there are the chill people who don’t like Galen just because they don’t.
@@theholyderp4286I don't mind them decanonizing him, he was doing a bit too much but he was cool and people put way to much are about what's canon especially when most of the writers don't care and will mess things up every other show/game/movie/book
@@zechariahcaraballo8765 I just find it funny that people will get so upset about Galen but then never have the same energy about legends palpatine that could quite literally drain the lifeforce off the face of a planet lmao
@@theholyderp4286 I mean to be fair, Palpatine isn't the only one who could do that. Nihilus could too and I'm much more mad about him than Palpatine. Old or new cannon at least Palpatine still exists. My favorite Sith Lord ain't even canon anymore according to Disney
@@connorharnage6697 oh don’t get me wrong I don’t mind if people hate on legends stuff I just was making the point that it’s so dumb that most everyone’s arguments agaisnt star killer is that it’s not canon but won’t keep the same energy when the 80% majority of Star Wars isn’t canon anyways now thanks to Disney
“I seen Vader ONE TIME, and he got me playin temple run”
- cal kestis
Starkiller being supportive is hilarious
Its crazy how Luke is totally in another leverl compared to them.
@@TipoIrritable you’ve commented this a few times, what are you trying to achieve here? Sure legends luke would clap both of them, but even ROTJ luke would get beaten by starkiller. You saw what happened to Jedi Leia in the DLC, and starkiller performed better against both Vader and the emperor than luke did in the films.
And extremely in Character.
Hes trying. ya talking to a guy who was raised by vader and a killer robot
@@RedSunUnderParadisenot really
Sam Witwer being an insanely good influence in the Star Wars franchise being the apprentice of Vader, Sidious, and Maul really is deserving
Sam is the goat. Henry cavill but fpr star wars. Loved him as starkiller, loved him in smallville, dude's awesome.
he's in jedi survivor too actually
Hey, you have to consider the training both Cal Kestis and Galen Marek went through. Galen received a lot of training based on Sith teachings. Hence, why he's able to do far more brutal things than Cal.
Not to mention the fact that Proxy was programmed to try to kill him at least once a day ever since Galen was a kid, and had programings of lightsaber styles from various jedis and siths he data on
And he was trained under Vader himself throughout his life before his first mission. So it must be one hell of a training that we yet to know he was put under besides being trained by proxy
The star destroyer thing is a big feat of his, and everyone complains about it being representative of his OP state.
But when hearing those complaints about how big it is, am i the only one who remembers Yoda talking about how "Size matters not" to Luke and how Luke struggles with the X-wing because of the mental weight hes giving it?
basically what kota said to him literally the size matters not speech
Ok, but hear me out, size matters not, is like saying the weight of a gallon of milk ain’t much, and you can get used to it to an 8 yr old, mean while, starkillers out here deadlifting 1,000+lbs and being chill about it, not to mention them fucking cells or whatever that are apart of the force that birthed skywalker, forgot the name, they limit the power of ones compatibility with the force, anakin was one of the most powerful Jedi ever in that time because of it, and starkiller spits in the face of that too, it’s not so much size that matters, it’s scale, the star destroyer was probably trying to move away from him to escape, and still couldn’t, this makes him the only force capable person, I think ever, able to theoretically pull an asteroid in from space and just drop it, killing everyone, which, if done right, could compete with the likes of the Death Star, especially the second one, of which was a super weapon, and used as star wars equivalent of a nuclear bomb. He ruins any and all conception of scale.
@@Yomotomenthe star destroyer was already destroyed, like it’s in a junk planet’s orbit just chilling already. So he really just needed to pull the nose to cause it to start falling towards the planet
Yeah.. But its the distance. If you can do that, then you no longer need a lightsaber. Cuz you can throw a person into the space in a blink.
@@YomotomenI mean Yaddle once kept an entire ass planet together after it tried to shake itself to pieces. Or maybe that was Yarrel Poof, I don’t remember. It’s still an incredibly impressive feat nonetheless given Starkiller's young age and lack of experience though.
The fact that Starkiller is being popular again because Cal Kestis is acting up in the new game is WILD
Cal struggles to much in the game
@@thewind1628 Yea it’s called being a well written character
@@thewind1628yeah it’s called being a well developed character
@@thewind1628 It’s called good writing. Stop crying 💀
@@thegoldavenger.3829 star killer better 🥱
It puts a smile on my face to see MalsWRLD give Rick the Door Technician the respect he deserves. That man is a legend.
Whose Rick the door technician?
@@midnightprizm1583 A boss in Jedi: Survivor. He's just a normal stormtrooper, but everyone acts like hes a legend. Because he is.
6:27 look that frog messed EVERYONE up
FRRRRR
Star Killer is obviously the strongest Jedi in the Skywalker era, but the fact that Cal survived against Darth Vader puts him in a solid top 10 spot.
The strongest Jedi were Luke and Yoda...
Please, Luke joined the war at the ass end of it when most of the big players on both sides were out already
@@valeria262 But Luke did defeat the guy who did body dozens if not hundreds of Jedi
@@zachm9202who was emotionally compromise
@@kazumakiryu1617 guess you didn't play DLC but Luke was bodied by Starkiller and made his apprentice 😂😂
I mean, we’re comparing a padawn with a decent force sensitivity to a full on Sith apprentice trained BY VADER with a strong connection to the force. Cal accomplished a lot with very little; Starkiller had a lot going for him already.
Dude had a strong connection to the force as a toddler.
@@NikkiG1134 a child of two jedi knights and raised by them was bound to make something strong
Vader even gave him two blades like Anakin did Ahsoka, thats when you know shit got real
@@craytherlaygaming2852 the clone though.
@@nathanielzoelle who was weaker than the original like remember the book original starkiller blitzed and outdueled vader while the clone was struggling baaaad like he only won thx to force lightning which wasn´t as cool as the qte in the game just full power force lightning no powering up with the storms of camino
I love how Starkiller has respect for Cal.
It's pretty wholesome ngl. And I wanna believe they'd actually be that friendly to each other.
Cal straight crying actually killed me 😂 like he just look at starkiller YOU AINT HAD TO DO ALLAT? FRFR?!
Closest thing to Ogddo Bogdo for Galen would probably be the Bull Rancor on Felucia. Or possibly the junk golems he fights on Raxxus Prime while going to kill Kazdaan Paratus. There aren't a lot of beastly foes in either game surprisingly.
Starkiller and Cal complimenting eachother has the same energy as all of the spider men complimenting eachother
No
@@bottleofgreed4415 yes
Bro, the sheer trauma of mentioning Ogddo Bogdo I felt that.
And the best part? Your reward for defeating him in Jedi Survivor, ain't the poncho. It's just more pain and suffering once you enter the Force Tear in Doma's shop out of curiosity.
Man I had to use the purity perk for that fight
@@mrver427 and I was the idiot who did it early on in my first playthrough (no purity perk available), went straight to Doma's shop after unlocking the poncho, on foot which means I never saved at a meditation spot, proceeded to die 50x times in that stupid Force Tear until my game crashed.
So I had to do it all again
You guys struggled with that?
@@ML-sc3pt Anything higher than Jedi Knight difficulty and they are SUPER aggressive. If you handicap yourself (like me), no blaster stance, no embrace darkness and without NG+ for purity, the tear is just pure hell
I cried when I fought the double Rancors (back 2 back)
@@Sprucepenny I beat the game on max difficulty lol
Cal was bodied by Vader. Vader was bodied by Starkiller. Let that sink in.
I never paid attention to Star Wars except Lego Star Wars and force unleashed, so when I learned how much of a demon god he is I now understand why everyone fear him
Starkville isn't even Canon buddy
He's cannon to me!
@@poiwerinoidias5416 ok?
@@OreoRanger2210 Yeah, Cal is canon. Starkiller is not. Cal wins.
Oggdo Boggdo is a trial by fire, every death at his hands is a lesson and every respawn you come back stronger. And by the time you're finally strong enough to beat him, nothing else can stand in your way.
And the best thing is, learning to beat Oggdo is like riding a bike. Even years after I've last played Fallen Order I can still beat him on my first try. All those other deaths were worth it.
Yes I agree. That is not the same for Spawn of Oggdo. That is the hardest boss in the game.
I honestly feel bad for the storm troopers the disrespect that happens to them such as, getting disintegrated, when they went against cal and he slowed time and wiped their whole squad, and on top of that they can’t shoot for their life. I feel bad for dem doc
Funny enough In Survivor the soliders do state they aim is ass because they exhausted, hungry, and havent slept in days. Finally some actual reason as to why they aim is cheeks lol
Cal got nerfed he can no longer stop time on ppl he can only do a certain range 😂
Yeah, but at the same time, they mad disrespected the Jedi on *that day*
Cal’s biggest W is bagging Merrin and living to enjoy it
How many Jedi you know bag a wife, let alone a night sister baddie?
Also W Afro senju reference, my bro is suffering 😂
Galen had Juno.... But she no desert ghost
Kanon and Hera?
@@blackheartthedarklord6428kanon kinda died too
@@blackheartthedarklord6428 @kazejay7229
it's spelled Kanan bros, he deserves to have some RESPEC on his name, he earned that shit! xD
Jedi are not supposed to get married
.and the reason is because they can be manipulated it's a major weakness. It's exactly how the chosen one became Darth Vader
Cal+star killer would be unstoppable
The empire will not exist anymore shit those two will build their own empire some quasi jedi/sith/rebel empire 😅 or destroy everything in the galaxy
Now that is a mentor and student duo I want to see
@waltermcelvy3541 more like two rival jedi or force user lol trying to complete one another who can killed more empire solider or getting powerful
@@Fallout4277 Starkiller was never decanonized in my mind, he’s still out there somewhere
@@hittingdasauce I’d think that they’d Balance each other out, Cal being his teacher in emotional matters like balancing his darkness with his light side and starkiller would teach him the physical aspects like lightsaber combat and force moves, teaching him to use the dark side to his advantage but not letting it control him
0:12 so much swagger in that
1000 aura points
Starkiller will always be one of the best Jedis for me. His story is just everything to me
*Siths
Sith to Jedi by the end of the game he is a jedi.
Oh you called that a story?
I really liked the fact that Starkiller was being such a good friend to Cal. I mean the ending was kind of sad, but no one is perfect
"The perfect idea doesn't exi--"
"Mal should do a video game therapy session for enemies in the Yakuza series."
He already covered that in a video lol
@@olu550 as a april fools prank
@@olu550 bruh, he said he didn't play that game yet
L joke
@@darianhawkins874 still covers the topic (and why there's no actual video on it)
Cal's dark mode at the end of Jedi: Survivor story had me feeling incredibly strong I got to kill some of the toughest enemies with ease using that ability. It really did remind me of Starkiller's unleashed mode. I can only hope that in a dlc or a 3rd Cal Kestis game he gets to spend more time being incredibly strong. That said there's also a new game + perk that makes you and all enemies do a lot more dmg could be a little bit closer to that power fantasty.
Cal in the 3rd is most likely going to be around Vader level so you can actually fight him for real.
I'd love to play at Vader level for part of the game just like the dark side power up at the end of survivor. Heck even a dark skill tree would be cool! Cere being an original character killed by Vader builds up the villain in the narrative and builds a narrative for Cal. However I'm worried that a fight with Vader would be made canon and if it is then we know Vader doesn't die.
That Oggdo-Boggdo was seriously difficult. Even more in Jedi Survivor, because those Oggdo’s tongue grapple attacks are an instant kill, which you can sometimes escape by using slow. If you’re lucky, slow glitches you out of the grapple. But in Fallen Order, if you’re at a reasonable difficulty, it’s just a highly damaging attack, that you CAN survive with enough health. And can I say fighting TWO of them at once, is just a nightmare. (Not as much as a Rancor though…).
little trick i found for fighting both the Oggdo's and the rancor's is that even a single blaster shot when they begin an unblockable attack will cancel their attack and stagger them, giving you an opening to perform a combo on them with your secondary stance for some high damage.
Ogdo bogdo could beat starkiller and cal teaming up. Probably because we would ambush them at level 1.
In fallen order when oggdo is about to do the tongue attack you can force pull his tongue out and chop it off. Rest of the fight is trivial. In Survivor oggdo was like the vader of all animals
@Battered_FannySure but on Gm difficulty if you fuck up the timing just once during that fight (and it's long) you die instantly. Atleast on its unblockable attacks. The only way I could beat it was to pull the two "hammer guys" into the pit with me. And even then it took several tries.
The slow mo ability is called Stasis. You surround the target with energy and either slow down everything caught in the blast or stop movement entirely. It’s actually a neutral power as Jedi and Sith have used it.
I rather have stasis the lightning bomb with stasis i wont actidantly incinirate my self for holding it too long
I read a time travel fanfic where the council had to call a meeting to discuss Cal using Stasis cause they thought it was the dark force’s Slow. It was really funny.
Yeah there was this jedi named isaac clarke that used it.
I mean, in Fallen Order, and I think Jedi Survivor. It IS actually called “Slow” and not stasis.
SPOILERS FOR JEDI SURVIVOR
I mean regardless of what we calling it Cal DEFINITELY started using the dark side version of it at the end of the most recent game. I do think the original was dark side-y tho based on lore and the fact it stemmed from his emotional reaction to his master dying
Cal doesn't know Force Slow (but you're right, it is a Sith move); he has Force _Stasis_ which, like, it's not a _Sith_ move but it _is_ the same move Kylo Ren uses to stop blaster bolts mid-air. Force Slow is actually more along the line of using the Force to make your enemy tired so they slow down.
Damn. I had know idea! Thanks for the insight dawg
Its crazy how Luke is totally in another leverl compared to them.
@@TipoIrritable It's a shame that his greatest feats aren't canon anymore. I wish canon Luke had more skills from his Legends counterpart. The Force Projection thing was cool, though. Probably the only part of that movie I liked.
There's no such thing as Jedi move, Sith move, and any other shit. Force belongs to everyone. Jedi and Sith are just sects using Force in their specific ways because of how they have been teached by their masters. If there's Jedi, Sith then any other Force sect can exist too.
@@LukiKruki I never denied the existence of other sects; I just called Force Slow a Sith move because that's what most people are familiar with.
Would you have prefered that I call it a 'Dark-side Ability'? Or do you deny the existance of the Dark Side?
''Parry!?! You've got chance to attack????'' Got me on life support 🤣🤣🤣
Cal Is a Badass Jedi, Starkiller Is a Broken God
Galen was basically the second coming of Revan, the comparison isn’t fair
Fun fact: that whole repulses turning Stormtroopers to dust thing was only a game mechanic for censorship. In reality, when Starkiller tapped the deepest into the Force at the cloning lab, his repulses were strong enough pulverize the growing clones' bodies, turning them into paste and making a red mist out of their blood.
Yeah
@@JDWalker495 Revan wasn’t even that broken in the OG KOTOR games either! Revan is my favorite Star Wars character too and I can still admit that Starkiller wrecks Revan’s shit.
Now Darth Nihilus on the other hand, would decimate Star Killer, but I don’t think many Sith can defeat the dude who EATS PLANETS 🤣
I dunno. Calling Cal a jedi feels kinda wrong when he regularly taps into dark side. Grey jedi suits him more tbh.
“ ok so you just forgot I got disintegrated” had me crying 😂😂😂
Kall is like smoldering fire while star killer is like raging fire
P.s: Thanks a million for all the likes, everybody is the best
who tf is kall
Raging fire is an understatement, dude is an active volcano
@@KidKakarotto The protagonist of Jedi Fallen Order and Jedi Survivor
@@KidKakarottoa typo my guy😅
@@alejandrogarcia-du8gy no shit sherlock
Rick the door technician was such a funny part of the game, glad Rick got some recognition here😂
Can you imagine if Starkiller showed up in a DLC Story mode for Jedi Survivor? Or if Cal Kestis returned in The Force Unleashed 3.
😳 Booooy, that'll be some HEAT. 🔥💯
When that trailer came out of the dude in a tank on life support, ngl I thought it was gonna be Starkiller
Everyone will lose their minds. Ngl
Bro if they make Starkiller a dlc boss we’re screwed 😂
@@AXenoLover Mans would be the living embodiment of "Parry this, you filthy casual."
To Cal's credit, he did manage to stay alive and get with a Nightsister in the end. That's sizeable W in my book + You know that kid's gonna be OP, lmao
He also crapped on Sam Magg's book by doing that, which just adds to the size of that W.
True
starkiller had a hot empire officer chick
So he isn't even a Jedi anymore....
That moment when Starkiller pulled the star destroyer down was so freaking iconic. Starkiller is the GOAT
Great content bro!
Don't mean to be that guy, but technically he just controlled the angle of the star destroyer... still cool tho.
That crap was so hard for me to pull off
@@JWhitlocke its all good bro! Still an epic moment regardless
@@abdurrazzaqmumin1574 same, took me a few tries
@@lukebarroso449 Least favourite mission from my favourite star wars game
Both Galen and Cal are great in their own ways. Their interaction was actually great.
When he said you have a chance to attack i felt that and that had me dying 😂😂😂
It frightens me that Cal and Galen are basically the same age but are on two separate levels of power entirely.
That's purely because starkiller was trained by Vader, he is massively buffed in the games as he is onoy obi wan level in the comics, cal had his connection to the force fucked up and barely had any training before order 66
@thatonerandommf Being the son of two Jedi helps too.
Yeah I mean, Cal had almost no training after the purge, then he just ignored his force powers for a really long time, if he actually kept training and had a mentor I bet he would be somewhat comparable to Galen
Cal basically missed out on a decade of training. Plus, I reckon a good amount of training he did get was just theoretical basics, whereas Starkiller got nothing but constant combat training.
This dude can Thanos snap people?!
Yyyyep😅
Its one of the most dangerous force abilities in star wars canon
Thanos learned it from him
Star killer pulled down a star destroyer using the force, like bruh, that man is a menace.
@@onyx6774Vader stopped a ship going into hyperspace…. And starkiller rocked his shit like a Tuesday night shift…. No wonder Vader tried to get a clone of him to be his again
Everyone would agree Starkiller is leagues above Cal
But NOBODY would EVER call Cal weak, dude's a tank and he EARNED that
I just googled how heavy a Star Destroyer is and it's FORTY MILLION TONS.
So.... yeah. Starkiller was pretty damn OP
It's the same as a UNSC Orion-class Assault Carrier.
@@kabob0077 no fucking wayyyy
In fairness, he didn't so much pull it down as redirect it as it was falling so he didn't die. But yeah, still pretty wild.
@@SuperSaiyanD48 that is some Disney recon bullshit
@@xXevilsmilesXx ...Dude. The book came out in 2008. Disney didn't buy Star Wars until 2012. At the risk of sounding like a crotchety old Jedi myself, your anger blinds you.
Cal and starkiller are in basically different universes with the powers they got
They are indeed in different timelines.
Not the original starkiller. He was a lot stronger in the games than his comic version. In the comics he's around obi wan level
I love that you gave both these guys their due respect.
Starkiller was fully trained by Vader. He didn't just have his mind warped as a youngling he was trained SPECIFICALLY to take on jedi masters such as Shak-ti and WIN!
Bruh EXACTLY! Mfs saying he's "TOO OP?!" forget that. Like who else has pulled Vader's blade out of his hand mid swing and he not even see it coming? And bucko was 5! He was already strong as fuck in the Force, and then after everything Vader and Proxy done to him plus anything else he's been through? How could you not be OP? but if you say he's too OP you have to say Vader's too OP cuz both Sam and Lucas swear Vader was holding back but I call bullshit.
5:16 Meanwhile starkiller killed the thing that ate a rancor like a potato chip
"Send out the Gorog!"
Would love to see a sequel where these two meet and work together. Will never happen though.
lol hey cal go find some chests while I fuuuuuck this place up
Maybe you never know
@@jxblades716 never,starkiller is banned from star wars,he defeat vader and in minutes pass he defeat sidius,is overpowered
@@HORROR-vt1gmsupposedly Vader just underestimated star killer and was gonna beat him in the force unleashed 3
@@HORROR-vt1gm according to novel which is canonically above the game, Galen defeated Vader by luckly landing force lighting on his suit systems, basically same thing that killed him in ROTJ but less lethal, Emperor killed Galen pretty quickly. And TFU 2 isnt canon.
Nah Starkiller takes me right tf back😭100 hrs+ in Force Unleashed 1 alone
The first one was best one
@@hittingdasauce consider that Force Unleashed 2 was cutted short and rushed, I don't blame anyone for this
Wtf? Why 100 hours?
@@hittingdasauce easily
@@andrewstickadius4333 it sucks too bc it had SOOOOOO much potential if they got to cook more. The gameplay was overall better but the bosses (except Vader) were ass and it was too short
Man, i could feel, all that emotions on the ogdobogdo, being an gamer with average reflex and skills
Let's not forget Starkiller has own Spartan Rage meter in the second game.
Pop that shit and then you don't need the Infinity Stones to erase people.
Being a force user or non force user is such a struggle on one hand your rather A getting hunted by the galaxy (because i doubt the empire is hiring like that) or B your dying because of an unhinged space wizard
That Star Destroyer was in Low Orbit too. Starkiller could make every satellite in orbit just fall 🤯
*Casually raises hand* Um... actually, it was falling out of orbit towards the planet. He redirected it so it didn't kill him, not straight up pulled it out of the sky. So nah, he couldn't do that. But still, not at all shabby for something that weighed about 40 million tons.
@@SuperSaiyanD48 if you stop using the force on the star destroyer it. Goes back to its origin al spot
4:55 i mean he’s got a point. There are very few younglings that escape Vader alive.
The crying gets me because I imagine that's how these victims actually feel.
Dark Side Starkiller was BIG DIFFERENT, he manipulated Luke to join the dark side as his apprentice, Killed Obi-Wan Kenobi and Boba Fett, then later on killed Leia once she was trained in the force…there was no stopping this man
Even after killing leia, when he sensed the star destroyers, he had the eyes.
He had the demon in him.
I don’t think he killed Boba, I think his helmet just fell off of his head after a strike reminiscent of Jangos death. You can see him escaping in the background of the end cutscene of the fight.
My bad, that may have been Starkiller. However, you can see that the explosion did blow his head off, as his head was not in the helmet. He could have escaped theoretically, but who knows.
I don't know a single person who was able to Kill a Jedi master and then kill the ghost he killed a fucking ghost not a single Jedi or Sith has ever done that well as far as I know
@@Tyson-zs1kg consuming force sensitive spirits is actually a pretty normal thing that's happened before.
For example, Darth nihilus as the main one, Darth Nox as a more niche one (literally had an entire act dedicated to just eating ghosts), Vitiate had a whole planet of sith he just ate the souls of.
Starkiller was everything you wanted to be, and Cal was that realism aspect. Starkiller never really struggled throughout the story as much, and I was kinda relieved when we had a protagonist in Fallen Order who didn't just absolutely body Darth Vader
Saying he didn't struggle at all is a bit much. Yes, his power allowed him to win all of his fights, but he only got that way due to brutal training under Darth Vader. His struggle is mostly internal as he transitions from Sith apprentice to Jedi.
In the books, his force and lightsaber abilities are closer to par than depicted in game. He is powerful, but not overpowered. Even in the games, he fights like a very strong rogue who has a bag of tricks that can capitalize on his opponents weaknesses. Not someone who just bodies every strong opponent instantly.
Cal can't even 1 shot a normal ass stormtrooper he is not realistic at all xD....can that dude even throw a lightsaber in game? I swear I've never seen it happen a single time
He didn't "body" Vader, you don't "body" the final boss. Hell Vader has kicked Starkiller's ass a couple of times and pushed him to going full fury.
You know who Starkiller CAN body?
Rey Palatine.
@@ML-eq4rx Have you ever played Jedi Fallen Order?
Starkiller really doing the most he puts lighting (something that burns your enemies) into his lightsabers (which one shots) to then attack you multiple times like there’s no reason for him too put the shit in his lightsabers it’s just for style and I’m here for it 😂
To be fair, in the second game, you are able to sweep multiple enemies with that move, so I'd say it's pretty useful if you want to take down multiple enemies at once and quickly, or at least stun them, while in close quarters. Sure he could throw his lightsabers or use force repulse, but the lightning infused sabers doesn't seem to drain his force meter, so it's useful if you're temporarily drained of the force meter, and need to attack multiple enemies at once while close.
The afrosenju clip had me cryin
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This video made me realize how sympathetic I am when I play the fours unleashed, when he said he picked someone up and slammed them into a tie fighter
every time someone sees a laser wall , window to the void of space , the literal shot of the death star in tfu don`t mind if i do
Cal: I fought Darth Vader
Starkiller: I nearly destroyed Darth Vader
Starkiller (Bad ending): I DID destroy Darth Vader
@@shazaz1059 lol emperor palpatine got hands
Emperor throws hands
@@fumarc4501 lol agree and he rarely fight and when he do you know someone about to died
@@SoldierSpiderx Palpatine do got hands tho lol that old evil mf destroys souls.
“You have a chance to attack?!” Lmfao that got me.
The fact that he used Afro's clips from him fighting Oggdo Bogdo has me in tears 😂
Oggdo boggdo might be one of the most powerful beings in Star Wars. Definitely top 5
4:24 fun fact in the DLC’s for the bad ending there’s a model of Starkiller without the armor on and its just what’s under it and it is some sci-fi Frankenstein nightmare fuel like aside from having loose wires, thin metal hands coming out of his skin and basically his upper torso being the only part visibly left his entire jaw is just GONE with just a few tubes there along with several plates keeping what’s left of his head from falling apart and red eye. Seriously look it up its some grade A body Horror when you analyze it enough.
i saw it. "cybernetic reconstruction".
god, not only was he crushed, but he was torn in half. he DEFINITELY was dead...until he was revived with his brain and organs being put into a mechanical body. the way his face is just...plastered on a terminator-like head.
the only real part from his corpse is his torso and arms, and the skin of his face. everything else is just machine. and if you look closely, i believe you can see his heart under his halved torso.
and the fact his lungs are crushed. making breathing absolute agony for him.
starkiller really did suffer a horrible fate on the dark side ending.
jesus, and i thought the unmasked face of the sith stalker you fight in the jedi temple was what he really looked like. nuh uh. if galen changed without the mutilation of his corpse, maybe. but that was not the case here.
Just did, that's like something you would see in terminator
and despite how fucked up his body was this man was still a menace afterwards, killed Obi wan and turned Luke to the darkside
@@shazaz1059 for real and honestly what’s more impressive is Sith Lord Starkiller was basically more machine than Grievous was like he was nothing but a upper torso, less than half a skull remaining and whatever parts of his limbs were still flesh it was just stapled together, I’m honestly impressed his brain was somehow still intact cause you know a good portion of that is also just metal too.
“You’re telling me you never fought oggdo bogdo” TOOK ME CLEAN OUT 😂 and then afro screaming 😂
Cal is trying to stop the empire. The empire is trying to stop starkiller
3:42 "On Palpatine" had my dead lmfao
😂😂😂
Imagine if Cal met Galen right before the deathstar mission. He'd Solidify his lightside leaning. I love that you made em kinda bros in this.
the fit starkiller had for that last mission was the coldest jedi ropes ive ever seen
Even after starkiller is helping Cal out of his self doubt ,he still roasting him after Cal mention of the wild life boss fight which Cal got back to his self doubt😂😂.
"Parrying?! You got a chane to attack?!"
That one got me.
As a Ginger, Cal is pretty much the perfect Jedi for me. Though he seems to be leaning Gray, so I’m excited to see when he is a Master in the future
Don’t forget about Cal starting to master style switching of multiple saber forms though!
obi wan in the back just chillin:
@@SuperEarth_ArmedForces Ehhh I dunno about Obiwan. He was Ginger for just Episode 2 and George Lucas slapped brown back on him after that. Plus Obi Wan is pure Jedi. Not Gray’ish like Qui Gon
Holy shit I never noticed how much Obi’s hair changed from brown to red and back. That’s so weird
@@micha3l7 He dyed it for a bit and decided he didn't like it.
Grey jedi can't exist in any version of the star wars lore.
Cal survived Vader, he didn't fight him, he just lived to see another day.
I love how in video starskiller was be humble telling cal that even though you’re not me you’re still him
I'd love a crossover game where it's like a solo/co op game where you play as Cal and Star Killer. You'd be able to swap between then your friends could join in and play the character you're not using online or local. You'd have to use them to solve puzzles, fight bosses, explore the galaxy I'd think it'd be fun.
I’m actually surprised someone remembers Starkiller
Edit: never said I was some diehard fan, I’ve only played Star Wars legends once as a kid.
Bro everyone remembers starkiller
How can people forget?! He single-handedly whooped Vader and the Empreror's ass back-to-back. Undeniably OP!
If you’re a Star Wars fan, it’s a bit hard to forget or ignore.
who doesnt?
If you forget him, the goat then you ain't a real starwars fan
Starkiller: I never faced any of those creatures, actually. I was trained by Vader to hunt and kill Jedi. Biggest monster I ever killed was the Gorog actually.
Cal: The Gorog? How big was that?
Starkiller: It casually ate a Rancor as a snack. Like, one hand, dragged a fully grown Rancor into it’s pit and ate it in one bite.
Cal: I feel very lucky to only have heard about this thing now. 😅
The Gorog got nothing on Oggdo Bodgo and the spawn of oggdo
Gorog’s lore is that it’s strong enough to crack a moon in two with its punches btw
@@LeaderOfTheLostSoulsOggdo Bogdo can split a controller in half with just his tongue
To be fair, in the comic adaptation it turned out that he actually didn't kill the Gorog, it survived until Boba Fett came along to investigate.
@@darthplagueis13Boba Fett sounds like he’s got a reputation for taking all the credit, doesn’t he?😂 Though he is a bounty hunter, I’m not surprised.
6:19 bro as soon as he Mention the frog I thought of afrosenju and there he is 😂
"parry??? You had a chance to attack" has me so dead i cant 😂😂😂😂😂 its so true though.
I always see Starkiller as the brute force character who in term of pure strength, he's the best. Cal is on the finesse side. Cal will adapt and overcome his enemies, while starkiller will just kill everyone with just one move
Basically Cal is Vegeta while Starkiller is Broly.
Should have mentioned the fact that he invaded the mind of one of the strongest knights of the old republic and killed him while Dagan was already inside Cal's mind. That was some inception type stuff
Dagan was a Jedi master
@@didyoueverhearthetragedyof8231 he wasn`t he was a knight
Keep in mind Starkiller was only 17 at the time of the first game and managed to put down Vader and at least hold his own against the Emperor for a bit.
Wait so you are telling me he was 17 when he died. Bro...
He didn't even get laid. Damn it.
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