Oh damn. I was hoping to hear more of your reaction to the show after the plot discovers a spider under its toilet seat and jumps through the ceiling (credit to Yahtzee for the analogy).
I love the take of ‘a good thing isn’t just one good thing’. Great vid! Most of these clips are of earlier episodes though, so I’m curious how far into the series you are. The mid season tone shift is real.
This is a great review. The only thing I disagree slightly with, is the concept of the characters being the most important part of Fantasy (Through I get that view). For me, the most important part of a Fantasy story is that it evokes a sense of Wonder. That its world, AND characters, draw you in and you want to learn more and explore it more. You want to see the characters adventure, and explore the world. As you, yourself say, this is something Delicious in Dungeon excels at. One is constantly looking forward to the new creatures and to learn more about the world. It is very good at making the world feels so much larger than the characters, which is great as that gives the watcher/reader a feeling that there is might always something new just around the corner. The author is a noted RPG fan, especially western CRPGs, and have even made fanart for the party members from the Original Baldurs Gate games. As well as making fanart of BG3, Dragon Age and the Pathfinder games. And while it has not been confirmed, it often feels like she has played TTRPGs herself. She very much seems to be a fan of traditional fantasy, and I think this shows in her attention to world-building and making the world feel real and lived in.
Thank you so much for this thoughtful, respectful, researched and well articulated comment! We need more of those! I completely understand where you're coming from and I guess that ultimately it comes down to taste. For me, the characters come first as they are the eyes through which we experience the story and world. For instance, you mentioned that a fantasy story should evoke a sense of wonder, which is so true! But I feel like it would be extremely difficult for me to feel that sense of wonder if the characters I follow weren't 3 dimensional in a way that fits the narrative. As you said, the world AND characters have a synergistic relationship, but I don't think it's a coincidence many writers speak of characters as the foundation for good storytelling. I believe that If the world OR story is beautifully executed but the characters are bland and don't serve the narrative, the whole thing will fall flat. Harry Potter without Harry and Voldemort is just magicians going to school. It's beautiful but doesn't necessarily evoke a sense of wonder.
@@pavelover First of all, apologies for the overly long comment. I have a tendency to use three words where one might suffice. I do agree with the importance of good characters. But I do think it is possible to archive this sense of wonder, without 3 dimensional deep characters, but it is something that most definitely helps and is something that drastically improves the quality of the work. Because the reaction of the characters is incredibly important at setting the tone of the world, and function as the lenses through which we see it. But I think Good characters are only part of what makes a good Fantasy story. It is also as much about the works attitude towards its world, and the story that helps give the reader this sense of wonder. To me, all of these equally important foundations for a good Fantasy story. I do think that you can have a work that is a good, well-crafted, story, but not what I would see as a good "Fantasy" work. Often works where the Fantasy part of the equation is mostly set-dressing. In the same way you can have a Crime Story that have great characters and plot, but be really bad at the mystery aspect of it. Good characters and plot are always important for a story, but I think every genre have something specific that draws you to that specific one. Exploring ideas, ideals and concepts in Science-Fiction, solving a mystery in Crime Shows and the dynamic between the leads in a Romance story. Science Fiction especially stands out to me here, as many classic Science Fiction works that are considered great stories, even if their characters are incredibly 2-dimensional or doesn´t feel like actual people. But their world and the ideas and concepts that they explore are so interesting that one looks past this. I think my general example of this sense of wonder would be a lot of older, 80s-90s Fantasy Films. Like Conan, The Neverending Story, or Labyrinth. Where the feel and vibe of the world and story are what uplifts it. This is not to say that those stories can´t or don´t have good characters, but their depth and and developments are not the important thing that uplifts the story. While their dynamics with each others are important, the adventure they go on and the vibe/feeling of the world are just as important. With Dungeon Meshi the characters and premise are what draws you in and keeps you, but the spice that uplifts the story is the attention paid to the world and the adventure. And learning new things about it. It is, I think, the same thing that have made it so that works like Star Wars, Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings still have incredibly active fandoms decades after their original period. Their world feels so much greater than the story and people want to continue to explore adventures in it.
Me and my friends love fantasy with well thought out overly in depth world building, dungeons and dragons, and charming characters with inane little fun facts about them so when I discovered the manga I immediately began devouring it wiki first. I loved it and was happy to learn it was already gonna get an anime, animated by frigging Studio Trigger of all people, and knew it was too weird yet perfect a combo for it to not turn out amazing. Me and my friends are watching every episode as it comes out. I don't know how someone broke into my mind and turned my favorite things into an anime but hey Dr. Stone did it before with my love for cool fun facts and How It's Made. Oh did I mention Dungeon Meshi has multiple yuri AND yaoi ships? Perfect anime and manga 11/10, I would have given blood for it.
THE GOAT IS BACK AND HES COVERING ONE OF MY FAVORITE NEW ANIMES AND HE LOVES IT THIS IS A DREAM COME TRUE
AND THE COMMENTS GOAT IS ALWAYS HERE AS WELL !!! THANK YOU SO MUCH !
Goat you say? Be careful with the goat. And lion.
Oh damn. I was hoping to hear more of your reaction to the show after the plot discovers a spider under its toilet seat and jumps through the ceiling (credit to Yahtzee for the analogy).
I love the take of ‘a good thing isn’t just one good thing’.
Great vid! Most of these clips are of earlier episodes though, so I’m curious how far into the series you are. The mid season tone shift is real.
Thank you so much for the comment ! I'm not caught up to the series yet but I'll definitely watch it soon !
This is a great review. The only thing I disagree slightly with, is the concept of the characters being the most important part of Fantasy (Through I get that view). For me, the most important part of a Fantasy story is that it evokes a sense of Wonder. That its world, AND characters, draw you in and you want to learn more and explore it more. You want to see the characters adventure, and explore the world. As you, yourself say, this is something Delicious in Dungeon excels at. One is constantly looking forward to the new creatures and to learn more about the world. It is very good at making the world feels so much larger than the characters, which is great as that gives the watcher/reader a feeling that there is might always something new just around the corner.
The author is a noted RPG fan, especially western CRPGs, and have even made fanart for the party members from the Original Baldurs Gate games. As well as making fanart of BG3, Dragon Age and the Pathfinder games. And while it has not been confirmed, it often feels like she has played TTRPGs herself. She very much seems to be a fan of traditional fantasy, and I think this shows in her attention to world-building and making the world feel real and lived in.
Thank you so much for this thoughtful, respectful, researched and well articulated comment! We need more of those! I completely understand where you're coming from and I guess that ultimately it comes down to taste. For me, the characters come first as they are the eyes through which we experience the story and world. For instance, you mentioned that a fantasy story should evoke a sense of wonder, which is so true! But I feel like it would be extremely difficult for me to feel that sense of wonder if the characters I follow weren't 3 dimensional in a way that fits the narrative. As you said, the world AND characters have a synergistic relationship, but I don't think it's a coincidence many writers speak of characters as the foundation for good storytelling. I believe that If the world OR story is beautifully executed but the characters are bland and don't serve the narrative, the whole thing will fall flat. Harry Potter without Harry and Voldemort is just magicians going to school. It's beautiful but doesn't necessarily evoke a sense of wonder.
@@pavelover
First of all, apologies for the overly long comment. I have a tendency to use three words where one might suffice.
I do agree with the importance of good characters. But I do think it is possible to archive this sense of wonder, without 3 dimensional deep characters, but it is something that most definitely helps and is something that drastically improves the quality of the work. Because the reaction of the characters is incredibly important at setting the tone of the world, and function as the lenses through which we see it.
But I think Good characters are only part of what makes a good Fantasy story. It is also as much about the works attitude towards its world, and the story that helps give the reader this sense of wonder. To me, all of these equally important foundations for a good Fantasy story.
I do think that you can have a work that is a good, well-crafted, story, but not what I would see as a good "Fantasy" work. Often works where the Fantasy part of the equation is mostly set-dressing. In the same way you can have a Crime Story that have great characters and plot, but be really bad at the mystery aspect of it.
Good characters and plot are always important for a story, but I think every genre have something specific that draws you to that specific one. Exploring ideas, ideals and concepts in Science-Fiction, solving a mystery in Crime Shows and the dynamic between the leads in a Romance story.
Science Fiction especially stands out to me here, as many classic Science Fiction works that are considered great stories, even if their characters are incredibly 2-dimensional or doesn´t feel like actual people. But their world and the ideas and concepts that they explore are so interesting that one looks past this.
I think my general example of this sense of wonder would be a lot of older, 80s-90s Fantasy Films. Like Conan, The Neverending Story, or Labyrinth. Where the feel and vibe of the world and story are what uplifts it. This is not to say that those stories can´t or don´t have good characters, but their depth and and developments are not the important thing that uplifts the story. While their dynamics with each others are important, the adventure they go on and the vibe/feeling of the world are just as important.
With Dungeon Meshi the characters and premise are what draws you in and keeps you, but the spice that uplifts the story is the attention paid to the world and the adventure. And learning new things about it. It is, I think, the same thing that have made it so that works like Star Wars, Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings still have incredibly active fandoms decades after their original period. Their world feels so much greater than the story and people want to continue to explore adventures in it.
Can't wait for your review for the manga it's only 97 chap long and I can assure you it's worth to start right from chap 1
Me and my friends love fantasy with well thought out overly in depth world building, dungeons and dragons, and charming characters with inane little fun facts about them so when I discovered the manga I immediately began devouring it wiki first. I loved it and was happy to learn it was already gonna get an anime, animated by frigging Studio Trigger of all people, and knew it was too weird yet perfect a combo for it to not turn out amazing. Me and my friends are watching every episode as it comes out. I don't know how someone broke into my mind and turned my favorite things into an anime but hey Dr. Stone did it before with my love for cool fun facts and How It's Made. Oh did I mention Dungeon Meshi has multiple yuri AND yaoi ships? Perfect anime and manga 11/10, I would have given blood for it.
Dungeon Meshi is peak. Very well edited video!
Thank you !
Great review. If you have come this far and enjoyed it then you're gonna love what comes next. Happy watching!!
DID YOU JUST SAY "HUMAN IS DELICIOUS"?
Admit it, how many humans have you said delicious, MMMMMMMMMMMMMM?!?!
Honestly, I'd kinda say it's the opposite. It's a Cooking Show that becomes a Fantasy Anime as it goes along (but doesn't entire drop it's roots).
toriko who?
It is Toshiro
Good video. Watched the whole thing but i feel like you didn’t say shit 🤷🏽♂️👍🏾👍🏾