Here's something that never occurred to me about this story before, and that a bit of Googling has confirmed. She has tuberculosis; that's the disease that used to be called 'consumption'. That's a bacterial infection of the lungs that's spread through the air, and if she's coughing up blood she's definitely contagious. On a related note, there's two guys she's been kissing and in close contact with in this movie, not to mention all her customers at the bordello before the movie started. We don't know how long she's been infected, but probably a while considering she dies of it at the end of the movie. What I'm saying is, Christian may very well be fatally ill and have died of consumption himself after this movie is over, the duke might be similarly afflicted, and probability supports several of their patrons are sick, too. This was the shiny musical tale of a tuberculosis outbreak.
I'm late to the party but I would also like to add that tuberculosis is actually very difficult to get symptoms of although easy to catch, sort of like strep throat. It was considered a poor man's disease because tb mostly killed the poor and children as their immune systems weren't as strong as a well-fed adult's. Her immune system would have to take a hefty hit to cause death by tb (meaning either severe stress or physical exertion which, well, I guess sex counts?).
Yeah but the thing is: this movie is not supposed to be subtle because it's told from Christian's point of view. He is literally a twenty year old boy who arrived in this this huge city and fall in love with the first pretty girl he meets. It's not ment to be the greatest love story of all time. The Duke is over the top and one dimensional because it's how Christian saw him. Satine is this wonderful perfect creature because that's how Christian saw her. Everything is loud, dramatic and colorful because that's how Christian saw Paris when he first arrived. It's never ment to be a first degree story, because the narrator is a heartbroken naive young man, who felt like everything around him was new and spectacular.
Yes, but the criticism comes from how many people *do* treat it like it's a masterpiece penned by a savant, out of the need to be pretentious. This was basically one big hyperbolic way to say, "Hey guys, it's not that big of a deal. Just calm down."
"Christian sings a song to remind her of his love while looking over the city." "What is it, like, the third time they've done that?" "Fourth." I don't know what it is, but the delivery of that 'fourth' was so perfect it still makes me laugh.
As Lindsay Ellis points out, this movie's benefit is that it is totally self aware. In a way, it's the most clichéd musical ever, using as many tropes as humanly possible, and even drawing attention to the fact. Instead of using a new original score, that could prove to be unpopular, it opts to use top 40 pop songs, which are well established to be beloved, and have already earned an emotional impact. In a way, it's the most musical musical you could make... Like a Broadway adaptation of a movie musical version of a broadway show.
"In a way, it's the most musical musical you could make... Like a Broadway adaptation of a movie musical version of a broadway show" ... of a 19th-century French opera that parodies an ancient Greek tragedy. Honestly, this movie is turtles all the way down and it's criminal that Critic didn't pick up on this. Especially when Orpheus was regarded, among other things, as... *a brilliant musician* Besides, the pop songs are the language of this movie, consistent with the design themes of the Red Curtain trilogy, much as dance was the language of Strictly Ballroom, and Shakespeare was the language of Romeo and Juliet (by which I mean, it's a modern setting but the actors all speak in 16th century Shakespearean dialogue, as opposed to, say, West Side Story which updates the language for the setting).
Ok but the whole third act thing of “Don’t tell your boyfriend the truth. Just break up with him and make him sad.” I mean....seriously, Doug is absolutely right about this. He would’ve been less depressed if the breakup hadn’t happened.
@@TheSchaef47 The Orpheus and Euridice comparison is....shallow, at best. The "Euridice" dies, and there are several reverences to the "underground" that refers to their burlesque shows or whatever. But there is no wedding, no original death of Euridice, no escape from hell, no second death due to "Orpheus"' actions. People keep saying this, but it's pretty cobbled together.
@@dianefournier8096 it's a Baz Luhrmann film, of course it's cobbled together. But they took the extra step of singing along with Offenbach in the film, they're not exactly being subtle about this. I *did* reference the opera, which was a parody of the play to begin with, and the actual Moulin Rouge of the time also incorporated the music and basically made it the meme it is today.
While the Tango Roxanne is awesome enough to redeem the entire film, it’s just icing on the cake. The movie’s existence was in fact justified completely by two lines during the pitch meeting song: “Oh, Harold, no one could play him [the maharaja] like you could!” “No one’s going to.”
Ok, I love Moulin Rouge, but to be fair, this review was a fairly accurate representation of how utterly over the top and silly it is. Plus, Critic's a damn good singer!
Oh I know! I love the movie, too, but I know it's not actually that good. My mom hated it when I tried to show it to her. And she usually enjoys musicals with me.
Wait a second... Satine died of consumption, which is tuberculosis, which is a disease of the LUNGS, and you're telling me that she was singing perfectly up until the moment she died of LUNG DISEASE!? ...Also, the Moulin Rouge is closed at the end of the film (when Obi-wan is writing his thing), so the deed-wielding Duke won after all! Hooray!
18:46 - 19:02 Actually, that's kind of clever. The narrator is a young man that has never truly experienced love. All he knows about it is from what he has been told, which is that it is really, really good and everybody wants it, and that the good guys know what love is while the bad guys do not. He sees himself as the good guy, so he deludes himself into thinking he knows what love is, when in reality the closest he has gotten to love is an infatuation with Satine.
the problem is that film presents the love story as the main focus and source of relationship between the two characters you can't make the point that young love is often more ideological and can backfire and then make that love story the centerpiece and set it up as a real connection and or actual real thing.
I watched Moulin Rouge not sure if I was gonna like it but ended up loving the hell out of it. I loved how over the top it was, the story and the chemistry between Nicole and Ewan.
I remember seeing the movie under the genre of "Comedy-Drama_Romance" genre and it confused me so much, like, in that genre, this movie sucks. Then years later I read the interviews and the intention of the directors, which was not to make a musical romance drama comedy, but a Pastiche movie with a modern twist towards Musicals. Pastiche is a genre that comes from Giallo movies that mixes music and over the top acting with extremely fastly edited scenes in order to deliver a story. ML is one of those movies that was taken WAY more seriously than it was intended, and the casting is actually great because Pastiche movies had bizarre, out of nowhere cringy scenes, and the pacing was completely out of place. As a romance-comedy-drama movie, it sucks. But then again, that was never meant to be the genre... ML was an experimental movie, and as a Pastiche movie, it's actually a masterpiece.
It is kinda like Bollywood movies, except this is actually daring to go 100% apeshit crazy. Kidman's super whore-ism in the 1st meeting is so over the top and insane, it makes Uma Thurman as Poison Ivy in Batman & Robin look subtle. I think I saw ML when I was around 7 years old for a few minutes on HBO back in 2002, and damn...... I was turned on by Satine. This movie looked to be a new take on the stale musical formula in the '90s. Although how it got nommed for a fucking Oscar is beyond all rational comprehension. Then again, ML is anything but rational. This must have been a blast for the entire cast to film and perform, since they got to give a whole new meaning of the phrase "over the top". Everyone must have had a lot to drink before coming to the set everyday this was filmed.
The Oscar part? I totes understand you. I honestly enjoyed the movie but only when I understood the genre it was suppossed to be, instead of the genre for some lame reason it was always placed. Ironically, pastiche actors HAD lots of drinks or drugs before doing their scenes, because their inhibition had to be at their lowest in order to perform correctly. Giallo movies also had that vibe, but then again, I can only blame the genre it was mostly placed. If it was put as a Pastiche like it should have been, I'm sure people would have understood why was it such a trainwreck, instead of saying that it failed. Same as Giallo... Phenomena is an awful horror movie, but is an amazing Giallo movie. ML is a god awful romance musical, but as a pastiche? It's awesome.
Right? He's complaining about Ewan singing Sound of Music and they all think he's great, but in the part immediately following that when he sings the next line, and they all gasp in amazement and crowd around him, that might be the funniest part of the whole movie. It's so campy. I love it.
Gonna go out on a limb here and say that I love this film. For two major reasons. 1) I first watched this when I was 13 and thought like Christian. That love was the only true beauty in the world and that only through finding the right woman I would be happy and then we've be able to survive anything. I was heartbroken bc I thought he'd lost his one chance at 'true love'. 2) Now I'm 21 I see the film as a parody of those ideas, and its over the top style is to show how much of a farce the 'tortured artist' and 'bohemian' lifestyle is. It's not cool or funny to be poor and desolate, that's why everyone in the film is trying to hard to pretend that they're happy but also trying so hard to get out of their position. Its melodrama and over-the-topness is perfect in showing how unfulfilling and lack of meaning the life of show-business and entertainment is.
I think part of why I love this movie, is that it's really just one giant, enormous ball of cheese, and it's HONEST about it. I never thought it was trying to hide behind artistry and pretentiousness. I always just viewed it as a hilariously cheesy musical, and I love it for it!
I don't like the fact they make fun of Christian's crying when Satine dies. Has anyone ever filmed themselves when they're crying, I mean snot and sobbing crying? It's not pretty and it sometimes sounds weird, but I actually appreciate that that shows how amazing an actor Ewan is.
This was the movie that transitioned me from "Obi-Wan was the best part of the prequels" to "I will watch pretty much everything in which MacGregor appears, including Big Fish and Christopher Robin".
This wouldn't be the only time a character famously played by Ewan McGregor would be holding his dying love Satine in his arms. Then again, does The Clone Wars count, since he didn't voice Obi-Wan in the cartoon?
@@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747 Yes, Ewan is the best part of this movie, and YES, Clone Wars ABSOLUTELY counts! Even the seconds-long clips that were interspersed with the parody segments were enough to get me feeling all the feelings.
I found his crying actually quite bone-chillingly real. Like you said, real crying is never pretty and Ewan McGregor pulled it of fine with the sounds and face he was making. It was neither over-the-top, nor underplayed, it looked exactly as it should.
I liked the scene. I just didn't like the way the dude was singing it. It would've been 1000× better if he wasn't putting on a voice. Literally would've sounded better with anyone else singing it.
Christian's reaction is actually not that uncommon. Many people respond to being hurt like he did with aggression. It is common for Both men and women to dislike people who broke their heart broken. It's why "My Ex" is seen as a negative thing. That doesn't excuse his actions, but they are a believable response.
I think he reuploads old stuff to UA-cam once it gets released from copyright claims, if I had to guess. And what a good one to pick, this was one of my favorites.
I can definitely agree with that being a possibility. However, Doug has come out before saying that this channel's had difficulties with copyright claims before and getting videos back from being claimed. And while I don't know if any of these past videos have had this issue, that's just my educated guess based on what I know.
Love it or hate it, you can't really deny that Baz Luhrmann is really aiming for something that is out of this world: a truly bizarre hybrid of Looney Tunes and Love Story in one (satisfying?) package. And I dare to say it thus: I still f**kin' love this movie.
I watched it after watching this review and while I agree with Critic’s opinions, it is one of the two reasons we got live-action movie musicals in 2002 and onwards. We eventually got Sweeney Todd, Hairspray, Les Mis (eehhh), The Greatest Showman and others like it. So I can’t hate this movie too much
I think read in the comments of the original video that doug actually had training as a singer (baritone, i think it said) maybe has something to do with that.
Yepp! In the top five nostalgia critic review on Channel Awesome this review was number 3 i think and there they discuss the songs, and there they clearly mentioned that this was the first time. Old fans would obviously know, but still funny to know :)
Ironically, I saw this review first, then watched the movie, and I couldn't hate it because it was so much fun. This review is still one of my favorites.
Well I think the Roxanne scene is amazing. Honestly just two hours of it on repeat would have been pretty great. Probably better than the movie we actually got. Undeniably better.
My sister kept telling me I should watch this movie. From what I had seen in clips, and the fact I hate musicals, I was like "hell no". Eventually she convinced me to watch just the beginning. Never had I been so wrong. Once it got to the green fairy, I was in for the ride. It's rather well done, and the tunes they chose, and how they applied them was awesome. I get that the gaudy look and editing can perhaps give the wrong impression. I just know I've never seen another "musical" that I enjoyed. Also, I took it that not everything was literal. For example, whenever he sang, he was speaking revolutionary things, not the lyrics.
Greybeard Moulin Rouge seems to be a musical that at least does not let up on its batshit craziness. And Nicole Kidman.... damn is she hot!!! The 1st scene with her and McGregor is just priceless.
Why is Nostalgia Chick giving Sateen a pass due to bad writing and treating Christian like his actions are his own and not also governed by the same bad writing?
a more descriptive answer being, her bad writing made her dump him and hurt his feelings even though she didn't want to; his bad writing made him suddenly hate her, shame her IN PUBLIC, despite the fact the whole movie he was spouting on about love like he was an expert. She was an idiot, but he essentially did a full 180 and tried to RUIN her.
OK, here are my problems with Moulin Rouge: First: If this was supposed to be a tragedy, then why have a Disney- ish love story with a cartoony bad guy and blatant song ripoffs? It makes no sense. Imagine if season 3 of Game of Thrones ripped off High School Musical and every Justin Timberlake and Lady Gaga song up until the Red Wedding. Second: That stupid misunderstanding that could have been avoided in a million ways. Satine could have told Christian about her illness, she could have told Duke Douchebag about her illness so that he wouldn't waste his time obsessing over her, the list goes on... Third: Pretty much every other problem the Nostalgia Critic pointed out. Moulin Rouge sucks and I like it even less than Doug Walker does. This review on the other hand is one of my favorites. While it's one of the old episodes, It's an interesting foreshadowing of how the new Nostalgia Critic episodes would be. It even ends with "The Review Must Go On" which became the new Nostalgia Critic theme song.
"Blatant song rip offs" are you joking??? It's called a jukebox musical, meaning a musical where the songs are already pre existing like we will rock you, mamma Mia etc. You're acting as if they tried to pass the songs off as original numbers written for the movie.
@@cplpetergriffin1583 With Disney it makes sense, for example when Ariel dress transitions from blue to white you can make the argument that Ariel spent more time with Eric before the wedding. In live action there are no transitions so there's no excuse.
The main story is told from Christan’s point of view because at the beginning of the movie it is him using his type writer to show what he thinks he saw which explains some of the imagery in it like when he first enters moulin rouge and how exaggerated it can be with some of the performances
@@davidrobinson17 dude Doug doesn't write the checks. He's not the CEO or anything. He's just the critic. Yes that is now what the whole channel is but it's not his channel. They brought him on. A simple Google search would show you that instead of automatically assuming it's Doug's channel and blaming him for Lindsay leaving or anything for that matter.
@@mr.sinister2029 "They brought him on" lol wut? Doug and Rob started it all and hired the CEO to be the CEO so they didn't have to do a lot of the work. But they weren't completely stupid and didn't sign away complete control of everything either (just the rights to the Critic and some other stuff).
they weren't getting paid in the first place. none of the cast were paid per review. Channel Awesome gave them exposure. also, Doug clearly flew out to New York for this review. he didn't make Brent or Lindsay to fly out to Chicago
30:13 "Jesus! I never knew that the theatre world was so cut throat!" Me: (feeling the Wear and tear of the theatre world on my soul) "Bruh you have NO idea. MY personal acting career includes falling down hills, fearing being buried alive, performing in rainstorms, going to rehearsal despite having emergency surgery less than an hour before a tech rehearsal, also possible sex traffickers disguising themselves as "directors", people NOT knowing how to do stage combat ACTUALLY hitting people and that's all just to name a few that I'VE been through. You only need to look at Spiderman the Musical to really know how cutthroat theatre world can be."
"Who is that? Is she a main character? A side character?" Me: pfft! Who cares? Its Caroline o'conner. She was the original Lily on Broadway Anastasia! She's awesome and this movie's only improved by her being in it!
My ONLY complain with this review has always been that Lindsay's "Christian is a twat" argument is completely self-contradicting. How is he a twat but Satine is just "a victim of bad writing"? Wouldn't they both be, since they were both, ya' know, written?
+Giovanni Orellana Yeah, he didn't really have a big hand in what happened, though nowadays Phelous seems to take every opportunity to passive-aggressively make fun of him.
Lindsay's very pretty, but she's also very analytical, and has a dry speaking style. She also comes across as someone who's a bit shy for this, but did it anyways. I've heard a lot of people say they don't like her reviews, but like her when others get her a bit more animated and embellished in crossovers. But I've always liked her, I think her video essays are amazing.
Christian is singing the Whitney Houston version. Though they are the same lyrically, stylistically the two versions are very different. But yes, it did originate with Dolly Parton.😊
I'm watching this because of the Top 5 NC episodes: they showed a clip of the Review Must Go On and I wanted to hear the full song. I never knew it had lyrics! Also, I miss Lindsey doing reviews.
Critic: “MORE? What more could she want? She’s the center of the fucking universe!” Maybe, just MAYBE Critic, she doesn’t want to prostitute herself for the rest of her life?!?! Enjoyed the review though.
Here's something that never occurred to me about this story before, and that a bit of Googling has confirmed. She has tuberculosis; that's the disease that used to be called 'consumption'. That's a bacterial infection of the lungs that's spread through the air, and if she's coughing up blood she's definitely contagious. On a related note, there's two guys she's been kissing and in close contact with in this movie, not to mention all her customers at the bordello before the movie started. We don't know how long she's been infected, but probably a while considering she dies of it at the end of the movie.
What I'm saying is, Christian may very well be fatally ill and have died of consumption himself after this movie is over, the duke might be similarly afflicted, and probability supports several of their patrons are sick, too. This was the shiny musical tale of a tuberculosis outbreak.
MoonShadowWolfe so a more accurate version would be
“I will love you, til my dying...COUGH COUGH...” *dies*
It takes place in France, nothing good ever happens in French Musicals
I'm late to the party but I would also like to add that tuberculosis is actually very difficult to get symptoms of although easy to catch, sort of like strep throat. It was considered a poor man's disease because tb mostly killed the poor and children as their immune systems weren't as strong as a well-fed adult's. Her immune system would have to take a hefty hit to cause death by tb (meaning either severe stress or physical exertion which, well, I guess sex counts?).
Im really late to this party, but holy crap this just fucked my mind
good point
Yeah but the thing is: this movie is not supposed to be subtle because it's told from Christian's point of view. He is literally a twenty year old boy who arrived in this this huge city and fall in love with the first pretty girl he meets. It's not ment to be the greatest love story of all time. The Duke is over the top and one dimensional because it's how Christian saw him. Satine is this wonderful perfect creature because that's how Christian saw her. Everything is loud, dramatic and colorful because that's how Christian saw Paris when he first arrived. It's never ment to be a first degree story, because the narrator is a heartbroken naive young man, who felt like everything around him was new and spectacular.
Well, shit. How can we bash this movie now after hearing that? It all makes too much sense now.
The Teapot Of Doom Thank you!
Sure thats an interesting point, but that doesn't make watching it less annoying.
Yes, but the criticism comes from how many people *do* treat it like it's a masterpiece penned by a savant, out of the need to be pretentious. This was basically one big hyperbolic way to say, "Hey guys, it's not that big of a deal. Just calm down."
The Teapot Of Doom Yeah, but the use of that style in this movie is fucking obnoxious.
"Christian sings a song to remind her of his love while looking over the city."
"What is it, like, the third time they've done that?"
"Fourth."
I don't know what it is, but the delivery of that 'fourth' was so perfect it still makes me laugh.
Funny how Obi Wan also had a girlfriend in the Clone Wars, called Satine, who tragicly died in his arms
Coincidence?
*satine
sabine is another character, in rebels
but yeah what a mad one
Toby Byrne He was talking about Duchess Satine from TCW.
ik my dude, he edited it
i wrote that pre-edit
Miss X This was not kosher! my heart :(
Please... no more Clone Wars "Cannon Lore" please... tragic show that transformed all Jedi in no-personality sarcastic types.
As Lindsay Ellis points out, this movie's benefit is that it is totally self aware. In a way, it's the most clichéd musical ever, using as many tropes as humanly possible, and even drawing attention to the fact. Instead of using a new original score, that could prove to be unpopular, it opts to use top 40 pop songs, which are well established to be beloved, and have already earned an emotional impact. In a way, it's the most musical musical you could make... Like a Broadway adaptation of a movie musical version of a broadway show.
"In a way, it's the most musical musical you could make... Like a Broadway adaptation of a movie musical version of a broadway show"
... of a 19th-century French opera that parodies an ancient Greek tragedy. Honestly, this movie is turtles all the way down and it's criminal that Critic didn't pick up on this.
Especially when Orpheus was regarded, among other things, as... *a brilliant musician*
Besides, the pop songs are the language of this movie, consistent with the design themes of the Red Curtain trilogy, much as dance was the language of Strictly Ballroom, and Shakespeare was the language of Romeo and Juliet (by which I mean, it's a modern setting but the actors all speak in 16th century Shakespearean dialogue, as opposed to, say, West Side Story which updates the language for the setting).
So it's pretty much the musical version of every musical out there
Ok but the whole third act thing of “Don’t tell your boyfriend the truth. Just break up with him and make him sad.” I mean....seriously, Doug is absolutely right about this. He would’ve been less depressed if the breakup hadn’t happened.
@@TheSchaef47 The Orpheus and Euridice comparison is....shallow, at best. The "Euridice" dies, and there are several reverences to the "underground" that refers to their burlesque shows or whatever. But there is no wedding, no original death of Euridice, no escape from hell, no second death due to "Orpheus"' actions. People keep saying this, but it's pretty cobbled together.
@@dianefournier8096 it's a Baz Luhrmann film, of course it's cobbled together.
But they took the extra step of singing along with Offenbach in the film, they're not exactly being subtle about this. I *did* reference the opera, which was a parody of the play to begin with, and the actual Moulin Rouge of the time also incorporated the music and basically made it the meme it is today.
While the Tango Roxanne is awesome enough to redeem the entire film, it’s just icing on the cake. The movie’s existence was in fact justified completely by two lines during the pitch meeting song:
“Oh, Harold, no one could play him [the maharaja] like you could!”
“No one’s going to.”
Ok, I love Moulin Rouge, but to be fair, this review was a fairly accurate representation of how utterly over the top and silly it is.
Plus, Critic's a damn good singer!
Oh I know! I love the movie, too, but I know it's not actually that good. My mom hated it when I tried to show it to her. And she usually enjoys musicals with me.
Lol true 😂
Your Darn right he is, he needs to release an album.
@@lovetolovefairytales it’s a guilty pleasure.
It's supposed to be... that's the entire point of it.... So all you're saying is that it succeeded.
Wait a second... Satine died of consumption, which is tuberculosis, which is a disease of the LUNGS, and you're telling me that she was singing perfectly up until the moment she died of LUNG DISEASE!?
...Also, the Moulin Rouge is closed at the end of the film (when Obi-wan is writing his thing), so the deed-wielding Duke won after all! Hooray!
Michael Ramon so that's what consumption is
Late stage tuberculosis makes it hard enough to *speak* let alone sing.
Without antibiotics about half of people with tuberculosis die
And what about her infecting everybody else and they are perfectly fine after this?
*That* is the part that doesn't make sense? Did you see the movie? :-)
18:46 - 19:02 Actually, that's kind of clever. The narrator is a young man that has never truly experienced love. All he knows about it is from what he has been told, which is that it is really, really good and everybody wants it, and that the good guys know what love is while the bad guys do not. He sees himself as the good guy, so he deludes himself into thinking he knows what love is, when in reality the closest he has gotten to love is an infatuation with Satine.
That is true
So Christian is a mecha simp
Love is like death. Everybody acts like they know what it is but nobody is really sure.
the problem is that film presents the love story as the main focus and source of relationship between the two characters
you can't make the point that young love is often more ideological and can backfire
and then make that love story the centerpiece and set it up as a real connection and or actual real thing.
me: *opens review* moulin rouge was awful but, damn, i loved that roxanne scene
NC: *agrees with me*
me: *feels blessed*
Tyler White That wasn't a joke. You just shat on this random commenter and then randomly shat on Tamara as well.
Whose nostalgia critics wife have we ever seen her
I literally thought the guy was singing “ Rock Sand” instead! It was hard to make out what he was saying. 🪨🏝 😄
That "Like a Virgin" scene was so WTF crazy, Weird Al's "Like a Surgeon" would have been a better fit.
Fun Fact: Moulin Rouge is receiving a broadway stage adaptation which is premiering on the very day that this comment was posted.
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!! it can not be!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ba- Bakana
A play within a play? Playception!
Tzion Witt it’s actually really good on stage
@@RobertBurns71405Aaron Tveit!!
I just realized that in The Clone Wars cartoon, Obi Wan has a past lover named Satine. Then she dies in his arms while he mourns her death
The Northie holy shit
I know I realized that too lol
Wait... WHAT?!?!
Bobby Arteaga Yeah, and she was killed by Darth Maul of all people.
Frick....
I typed the whole Moulin Rouge! script in to a single comment.
Love
You forgot... "French"
Woah! How did you manage to do that?!
Wow no woosh
Someone needs to type up all the captions in this review.
XD
40:56 And that was the birth of Nostalgia Critic's theme song.
I thought that tune sounded familiar when I heard it last night
I am honestly disappointed that there was no joke about that.
Holy shit
@@crocuslament9680 He makes the joke in a later video.
@@legionaireb what video
I watched Moulin Rouge not sure if I was gonna like it but ended up loving the hell out of it. I loved how over the top it was, the story and the chemistry between Nicole and Ewan.
“I’m dying..” “Eww, keep that lousy deed. I’m not into necrophilia.” 😂😂🤣
What is love?
Hmm ...
Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more ...
I'm stunned that song wasn't used in the movie.
I remember seeing the movie under the genre of "Comedy-Drama_Romance" genre and it confused me so much, like, in that genre, this movie sucks. Then years later I read the interviews and the intention of the directors, which was not to make a musical romance drama comedy, but a Pastiche movie with a modern twist towards Musicals. Pastiche is a genre that comes from Giallo movies that mixes music and over the top acting with extremely fastly edited scenes in order to deliver a story. ML is one of those movies that was taken WAY more seriously than it was intended, and the casting is actually great because Pastiche movies had bizarre, out of nowhere cringy scenes, and the pacing was completely out of place. As a romance-comedy-drama movie, it sucks. But then again, that was never meant to be the genre... ML was an experimental movie, and as a Pastiche movie, it's actually a masterpiece.
It is kinda like Bollywood movies, except this is actually daring to go 100% apeshit crazy. Kidman's super whore-ism in the 1st meeting is so over the top and insane, it makes Uma Thurman as Poison Ivy in Batman & Robin look subtle. I think I saw ML when I was around 7 years old for a few minutes on HBO back in 2002, and damn...... I was turned on by Satine. This movie looked to be a new take on the stale musical formula in the '90s. Although how it got nommed for a fucking Oscar is beyond all rational comprehension. Then again, ML is anything but rational.
This must have been a blast for the entire cast to film and perform, since they got to give a whole new meaning of the phrase "over the top". Everyone must have had a lot to drink before coming to the set everyday this was filmed.
The Oscar part? I totes understand you. I honestly enjoyed the movie but only when I understood the genre it was suppossed to be, instead of the genre for some lame reason it was always placed. Ironically, pastiche actors HAD lots of drinks or drugs before doing their scenes, because their inhibition had to be at their lowest in order to perform correctly. Giallo movies also had that vibe, but then again, I can only blame the genre it was mostly placed. If it was put as a Pastiche like it should have been, I'm sure people would have understood why was it such a trainwreck, instead of saying that it failed. Same as Giallo... Phenomena is an awful horror movie, but is an amazing Giallo movie. ML is a god awful romance musical, but as a pastiche? It's awesome.
Right? He's complaining about Ewan singing Sound of Music and they all think he's great, but in the part immediately following that when he sings the next line, and they all gasp in amazement and crowd around him, that might be the funniest part of the whole movie. It's so campy. I love it.
Gonna go out on a limb here and say that I love this film. For two major reasons. 1) I first watched this when I was 13 and thought like Christian. That love was the only true beauty in the world and that only through finding the right woman I would be happy and then we've be able to survive anything. I was heartbroken bc I thought he'd lost his one chance at 'true love'. 2) Now I'm 21 I see the film as a parody of those ideas, and its over the top style is to show how much of a farce the 'tortured artist' and 'bohemian' lifestyle is. It's not cool or funny to be poor and desolate, that's why everyone in the film is trying to hard to pretend that they're happy but also trying so hard to get out of their position. Its melodrama and over-the-topness is perfect in showing how unfulfilling and lack of meaning the life of show-business and entertainment is.
I think part of why I love this movie, is that it's really just one giant, enormous ball of cheese, and it's HONEST about it. I never thought it was trying to hide behind artistry and pretentiousness. I always just viewed it as a hilariously cheesy musical, and I love it for it!
And thus The Review Must Go On was born......
No lies, when I got that this is the first time he sang his intro I was like "say whaaaaa" 🤯.... 😍
So the nostalgia critic theme started as a parody of "The Show Must Go on" by Queen, huh
I think so, isn’t the review theme song called the “ the review must go on “
Did anyone else notice that “I Will Always Love You” is a Dolly Parton song originally instead of Whitney Houston?
I noticed
I always thought it was Whitney but once I learned I was like oooooh
“ITS FAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHNN”
It's
*KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*
Literally read this comment the moment he said “fun”
It's not.
I'm a sucker for Ewan Mcgregor. And I love his singing voice. That's my guilty pleasure for this movie.
The singing in this movie is mostly just yelling and it gets irritating really fast.
@@JoakimOtamaa I’m questioning whether we watched the same movie.
@@quinnnewman2618 it is really yelling
I don't like the fact they make fun of Christian's crying when Satine dies. Has anyone ever filmed themselves when they're crying, I mean snot and sobbing crying? It's not pretty and it sometimes sounds weird, but I actually appreciate that that shows how amazing an actor Ewan is.
This was the movie that transitioned me from "Obi-Wan was the best part of the prequels" to "I will watch pretty much everything in which MacGregor appears, including Big Fish and Christopher Robin".
This wouldn't be the only time a character famously played by Ewan McGregor would be holding his dying love Satine in his arms.
Then again, does The Clone Wars count, since he didn't voice Obi-Wan in the cartoon?
@Stephen Schaefer Have you watched Trainspotting?
@@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747 Yes, Ewan is the best part of this movie, and YES, Clone Wars ABSOLUTELY counts! Even the seconds-long clips that were interspersed with the parody segments were enough to get me feeling all the feelings.
I found his crying actually quite bone-chillingly real. Like you said, real crying is never pretty and Ewan McGregor pulled it of fine with the sounds and face he was making. It was neither over-the-top, nor underplayed, it looked exactly as it should.
Old nostalgia critic
instant click
Old nostalgia Nostalgia
Instant Critic!
+lunayoshi I bought a bottle of Instant Critic from Amazon once... Would recommend.
You might call it a
Nostalgia click.
The sonic episode started it all for me.
JN Studios whatever did happened to the nostalgia chick?
I mean...it's just a gawddamn great scene. I enjoy Moulin Rouge as a silly pleasure, but damn even then, 'El Tango de Roxanne' is just...really cool.
Deadset, such an amazing scene
The scene from the movie itself was cool to see but I do love the reviewers' version of the song
I liked the scene. I just didn't like the way the dude was singing it. It would've been 1000× better if he wasn't putting on a voice. Literally would've sounded better with anyone else singing it.
Well I mean how could you not stop when Ewan McGregor is singing
Christian's reaction is actually not that uncommon. Many people respond to being hurt like he did with aggression. It is common for Both men and women to dislike people who broke their heart broken. It's why "My Ex" is seen as a negative thing. That doesn't excuse his actions, but they are a believable response.
Did he do this just to prove he's a better singer than Emma Watson?
Oh wait, it's old... Did he rerelease it just to make that point?
I think he reuploads old stuff to UA-cam once it gets released from copyright claims, if I had to guess. And what a good one to pick, this was one of my favorites.
You people do realize that I was joking?
I can definitely agree with that being a possibility. However, Doug has come out before saying that this channel's had difficulties with copyright claims before and getting videos back from being claimed. And while I don't know if any of these past videos have had this issue, that's just my educated guess based on what I know.
and he proves he can
Ah yes, "The Hills Are Alive." A song written in 1899 about the Nazi invasion of Austria in the 1940s. What a classic!
I love the bit where he edits the random stuff in
Disappointed Turtle The movie or the review?
Zach Antes I mean when the Critic edits in scenes from Batman & Robin and Chuck Norris
i love it to probably cause it actualy works in the scenes favor
Dammit I love it so much that I need someone to make a full version of that.
I would if I had the means to.
That ironically not only feels like it could go in, but also would not be hard to see in the movie
I adore this movie BECAUSE it's a psychotic jumble of love, awkward sexuality, and bizarre remixes and dance routines
Lexi Stanford same, its chaos, and chaos is fun
i love the crazyness , even with all the plot holes.
Lexi Stanford You explained why it sucks
One man's trash is another man's treasure lol. I ADORE this movie. I know it's garbage. It's delicious, delicious garbage.
Love it or hate it, you can't really deny that Baz Luhrmann is really aiming for something that is out of this world: a truly bizarre hybrid of Looney Tunes and Love Story in one (satisfying?) package.
And I dare to say it thus: I still f**kin' love this movie.
It's so bad, you have to love it. And there's no shame (not really otherwise it wouldn't be a Guilty Pleasure) in that.
I watched it after watching this review and while I agree with Critic’s opinions, it is one of the two reasons we got live-action movie musicals in 2002 and onwards. We eventually got Sweeney Todd, Hairspray, Les Mis (eehhh), The Greatest Showman and others like it. So I can’t hate this movie too much
And Doug himself confessed that he loved Elvis, so there's that!
that ending number, had no idea that the the critic could sing like that.
Jack Rose Presents makes sense.
And we will never know what made sense...
I think read in the comments of the original video that doug actually had training as a singer (baritone, i think it said) maybe has something to do with that.
Celine StClair I think he took opera class for a while
its where the intro song came from
Is it weird I thought the guilty pleasure song they sang n the end was catchy?
Angelgirl239 Nope. It is.
10:00 love how they use “Diamonds are a Girl’s Best Friend” and “Material Girl” in the same scene, which is a parody of Diamonds
Knowing this movie's satirical edge, that was probably purposeful.
This song was also used it in the Birds of pray movie whitch also had Ewen McGregor in it
Was this the first incarnation of The Review Must Go On?
Yup!
yup
Yepp! In the top five nostalgia critic review on Channel Awesome this review was number 3 i think and there they discuss the songs, and there they clearly mentioned that this was the first time. Old fans would obviously know, but still funny to know :)
im glade that im not the only one who immediately thought that when i heard this.
Also I never knew that the opening theme was actually a tune taken from the movie. I always thought it was an original song.
how could they not make a Ziddler on the Roof joke?
You will pry my love of this film from my cold dead hands, critic.
AMEN
It's so bad, you have to love it. And there's no shame (not really otherwise it wouldn't be a Guilty Pleasure) in that.
I was singing Brentalfloss's song in the shower this morning, and now this has been posted.
Clearly I am God. Huh. Cool.
The Orgasmatron quick say I'll win a million dollars!!.... please?
Most movies follow rules, the kind you learn at filmy schools...!
I love his song. xD
The Orgasmatron Well, with a name like yours, that should be obvious.
Ironically, I saw this review first, then watched the movie, and I couldn't hate it because it was so much fun. This review is still one of my favorites.
My dad died a few years ago and Moulin Rouge was his favorite movie, so when i here a song from Moulin Rouge i can't help but tear up every time.
I love the movie and the review I don't know how is that possible
Phantastic comments you're probably too stupid to realize the movie is pathetic and embarassing
Leo B Did you not listen to the Guilty Pleasures song?
Phantastic comments I like the movie, but I prefer to watch Repo! the Genetic Opera any day.
God! I really like Repo too. It's been a while since I've seen it!!
Phantastic comments I have the dvd. It's pretty cheap on amazon.
"HO HO, A PENIS!"
I just realized that the mental breakdown that one guy had was replacing half the lyrics of bohemian rhapsody with love
Well I think the Roxanne scene is amazing. Honestly just two hours of it on repeat would have been pretty great.
Probably better than the movie we actually got. Undeniably better.
Even Jason Goes to Hell,
Paranoia "What the hell?"
...Just rhymed hell with hell there.
Todd would be ashamed. ...Hey, why wasn't he included in this crossover? Eh, he'll probably hate all of it for some stupid reason.
yeah but i mean ewan mcgreggar's voice is AMAZING like woooow
I miss Lindsay, Todd and Doug all working together. They're hilarious against each other.
Bob Gilbert It would have been nice if Doug paid her for her work. We could have got a ton more of these good reviews.
@@GoatPopsicle you're aware he's not the person who writes the paychecks right He owns the critic not the channel......
My sister kept telling me I should watch this movie. From what I had seen in clips, and the fact I hate musicals, I was like "hell no". Eventually she convinced me to watch just the beginning. Never had I been so wrong. Once it got to the green fairy, I was in for the ride. It's rather well done, and the tunes they chose, and how they applied them was awesome. I get that the gaudy look and editing can perhaps give the wrong impression. I just know I've never seen another "musical" that I enjoyed.
Also, I took it that not everything was literal. For example, whenever he sang, he was speaking revolutionary things, not the lyrics.
Greybeard
Moulin Rouge seems to be a musical that at least does not let up on its batshit craziness. And Nicole Kidman.... damn is she hot!!! The 1st scene with her and McGregor is just priceless.
I’m a Very Inexperienced Virgin,But I’m Pretty Sure That Isn’t How You Seduce a Man
Now we need a La La Land musical review!
Oh God no.
dzeikobb but La La Land was good
Leokav4est so the critic reviews good movies too
Or a Beauty and the Beast 2017 musical review.
dzeikobb La La Land is terrible
The mockery of El Tango De Roxanne part is brilliant. You just got yourself a like on this video.
Anyone else get chills when he hits that line?
"The review must go on!
The review must go o-o-on..."
How not to?
I frequently get myself singing it out of nowhere XD
TIMESYPAMP PLZ
Why is Nostalgia Chick giving Sateen a pass due to bad writing and treating Christian like his actions are his own and not also governed by the same bad writing?
She confirmed on Twitter that Walker wrote all her lines in this review.
a more descriptive answer being, her bad writing made her dump him and hurt his feelings even though she didn't want to; his bad writing made him suddenly hate her, shame her IN PUBLIC, despite the fact the whole movie he was spouting on about love like he was an expert. She was an idiot, but he essentially did a full 180 and tried to RUIN her.
OK, here are my problems with Moulin Rouge: First: If this was supposed to be a tragedy, then why have a Disney- ish love story with a cartoony bad guy and blatant song ripoffs? It makes no sense. Imagine if season 3 of Game of Thrones ripped off High School Musical and every Justin Timberlake and Lady Gaga song up until the Red Wedding. Second: That stupid misunderstanding that could have been avoided in a million ways. Satine could have told Christian about her illness, she could have told Duke Douchebag about her illness so that he wouldn't waste his time obsessing over her, the list goes on... Third: Pretty much every other problem the Nostalgia Critic pointed out. Moulin Rouge sucks and I like it even less than Doug Walker does.
This review on the other hand is one of my favorites. While it's one of the old episodes, It's an interesting foreshadowing of how the new Nostalgia Critic episodes would be. It even ends with "The Review Must Go On" which became the new Nostalgia Critic theme song.
"Blatant song rip offs" are you joking??? It's called a jukebox musical, meaning a musical where the songs are already pre existing like we will rock you, mamma Mia etc. You're acting as if they tried to pass the songs off as original numbers written for the movie.
E Well it's shitty and lazy
@@cplpetergriffin1583 With Disney it makes sense, for example when Ariel dress transitions from blue to white you can make the argument that Ariel spent more time with Eric before the wedding. In live action there are no transitions so there's no excuse.
Because Moulin Rouge isn't just a tragedy, it's a tragicomedy.
It's so wired that yall think all movies have to be naturalistic. Its a fairytale, it's meant t be melodramatic.
that doesnt make it good still
It's so bad, you have to love it. And there's no shame (not really otherwise it wouldn't be a Guilty Pleasure) in that.
@@ellugerdelacruz2555 id barely call it a guilty pleasure movie let alone a so bad it good movie
@@thefunnychiptuneman
Okay yeah, I kinda hate it too....
No, not hate it, LOATHE it.
ROXXXXAN
this is my favorite review
I hate it in this video
Mickey Metcalf Thanks for the spam, troll.
Yeah I love his musical reviews, I prefer his “les mis” review.
thanks for the "Guilty Pleasures"-ear worm
25:43. I love that Lindsay's "i'm gonna laugh right now" glance.
Nostalgia Chick is so pretty
Pretty? Or petty?
@@ChildOfChaos07 Pretty petty.
@@stefanm.734 Mhmm. He is pretty petty. Lol
Sylvia I wonder if she’s single?
She is. You are too, if your profile pic is real.
Did nostalgia critic actually sing his lines in the review must go on?
He did, he was trained when he was a boy.
I think this Chanel is one of my guilty pleasures
Doug is a good singer
Oh hey, this finally got reuploaded to the main channel! One of my favorite NCs but I'd had to watch it on other channels.
I was stuck watching the Russian subtitled one.
Porkins dark times man,dark times..
Porkins Same.
Draukagrissah same. I just watched this one the other day 😄
awww, I thought this was a new review. Was happy to see Lindsay playing her old role as Nostalgia Chick again :(
I'm waiting for The Greatest Showman musical review!
Me Too.
Wow. Nostalgia Chick's got a lovely voice. And ending message is great. Just cuz something is crap doesn't mean you can't enjoy it.
Long live Lindsay
7:15 Hello Prisoner 24601, your time is up, the review's begun!
The main story is told from Christan’s point of view because at the beginning of the movie it is him using his type writer to show what he thinks he saw which explains some of the imagery in it like when he first enters moulin rouge and how exaggerated it can be with some of the performances
Hey, it wouldn't be the first time Obi-wan had a lover die in his arms
Dayum bro, harsh
Wow, Critic really busts out the chops for that last number! Dat bass! 😮
brentalfloss is such a treat in this
I had the hugest chrush on Satine when I was little.
(this coming from a girl)
????
Well it's Nicole Kidman
same (cpming from another girl)
Anyone who didn't is dead inside.
My favorite part of this review is when Lindsay Ellis stated that she never actually got paid for it.
Austin DiEdoardo its so funny watching these videos now, im like Damn Doug why you gotta be like that
@@davidrobinson17 dude Doug doesn't write the checks. He's not the CEO or anything. He's just the critic. Yes that is now what the whole channel is but it's not his channel. They brought him on. A simple Google search would show you that instead of automatically assuming it's Doug's channel and blaming him for Lindsay leaving or anything for that matter.
And you believed her disputes fact hat she provided no evidence to support her claims?
@@mr.sinister2029 "They brought him on" lol wut? Doug and Rob started it all and hired the CEO to be the CEO so they didn't have to do a lot of the work. But they weren't completely stupid and didn't sign away complete control of everything either (just the rights to the Critic and some other stuff).
they weren't getting paid in the first place. none of the cast were paid per review. Channel Awesome gave them exposure. also, Doug clearly flew out to New York for this review. he didn't make Brent or Lindsay to fly out to Chicago
32:42 I was expecting them to cut to Obi Wan saying “You were the chosen one!”
Ohhhhhhh
So that’s why this movie was so confusing to my 5 year old mind
Cuz it was confusing to anyone’s mind
It's so bad, you have to love it. And there's no shame (not really otherwise it wouldn't be a Guilty Pleasure) in that.
What makes Christian’s story a bit better is that in real life, the Moulin Rouge opened up again 3 years after the events of the story.
30:13
"Jesus! I never knew that the theatre world was so cut throat!"
Me: (feeling the Wear and tear of the theatre world on my soul) "Bruh you have NO idea. MY personal acting career includes falling down hills, fearing being buried alive, performing in rainstorms, going to rehearsal despite having emergency surgery less than an hour before a tech rehearsal, also possible sex traffickers disguising themselves as "directors", people NOT knowing how to do stage combat ACTUALLY hitting people and that's all just to name a few that I'VE been through. You only need to look at Spiderman the Musical to really know how cutthroat theatre world can be."
Was that Mr Clean!? Did Mr Clean just show up in my movie review?!
Whoawtf oh, you must not have heard...
Whoawtf
Lmao, my people are in this comment section too!!
36:58 I LAUGHED so hard the way he cried I get that it was supposed to be emotional but it's so hilarious
"Who is that? Is she a main character? A side character?" Me: pfft! Who cares? Its Caroline o'conner. She was the original Lily on Broadway Anastasia! She's awesome and this movie's only improved by her being in it!
29:02 *tries to stab himself* *knife breaks in half*... FUUCK
Fandom Master greatest moment of the review. Kyle's most unexpected moment ever lol. I rewound that like thirty times
Fandom Master 28:55 (Tries to shoot a gun in the mirror) THIS GUN DOESN'T WORK!
notice how in this Ewan McGregor's character is in love with Satine and Obi Wan Kenobi is in love with Dutchess Satine.
hmmmmmm
The Flaming Fox I was waiting for someone to make the connection thank you!
JayKitsu I had to scroll so far down looking for this comment
My ONLY complain with this review has always been that Lindsay's "Christian is a twat" argument is completely self-contradicting. How is he a twat but Satine is just "a victim of bad writing"? Wouldn't they both be, since they were both, ya' know, written?
Yeah, this movie is dumb. 😒And we love it for that.😏
I wish Phelous and Nostalgia Critic would do another crossover
Jack Rose Presents I don't think they hate each other
+Giovanni Orellana Eh, I'm pretty sure he's still bitter over how CA treated Lupa (which is why both of them left the site).
CaptainJZH Probably, but from what I've heard, Doug wasn't a part of it.
+Giovanni Orellana Yeah, he didn't really have a big hand in what happened, though nowadays Phelous seems to take every opportunity to passive-aggressively make fun of him.
CaptainJZH Wow, seems like Doug is being the bigger man
Hearing Critic's voice sounds cute!
This is probably the best singing I've heard from Phelous.
It's a Who's Who of Who Was at Channel Awesome!
I JUST NOTICED THAT THE INTRO IS TO THE TUNE OF "THE SHOW MUST GO ON" AND I'M LOSING MY MIND
Me too.
For years I wondered why exactly it was the way it was. I even had my own lyrics to it. But now I know.
21:52 NC almost breaks into laughter. Gotta say so did I.
Timothy Bergeron “Haha! A penis!”
Me: DONT LAUGH DONT LAUGH *repeats 100 Times*
Why is Nostalgia Chick soooooo Gorgeous
And very smart. See her video essays ever since she left channel awesome.
Her mug shot was 10/10
Lindsay's very pretty, but she's also very analytical, and has a dry speaking style. She also comes across as someone who's a bit shy for this, but did it anyways. I've heard a lot of people say they don't like her reviews, but like her when others get her a bit more animated and embellished in crossovers. But I've always liked her, I think her video essays are amazing.
Also, the "Whitney Houston" song Lindsay mentions is actually a Dolly Parton song from 1974. Just saying.
Christian is singing the Whitney Houston version. Though they are the same lyrically, stylistically the two versions are very different. But yes, it did originate with Dolly Parton.😊
Wow, I actually didn't know that...
Anyone else here after listening to the musicalsplaining about Moulin Rouge
Yes, hi, lol
The ending is beautiful!! 10 out of 10!!
I'm watching this because of the Top 5 NC episodes: they showed a clip of the Review Must Go On and I wanted to hear the full song. I never knew it had lyrics! Also, I miss Lindsey doing reviews.
Critic: “MORE? What more could she want? She’s the center of the fucking universe!”
Maybe, just MAYBE Critic, she doesn’t want to prostitute herself for the rest of her life?!?! Enjoyed the review though.
That's the point, she doesn't need to do it because she's the center of the universe for other reasons
If anybody is curious, all those torn pages from the beginning are just from a novel called Memoirs of a Geisha... I think