@@MaticTheProto not really. (yes it’s 5,200 pounds) but compared to other cars, like the vw id buzz (that’s a whole freaking van, it’s 5,400 pounds) ID. Buzz got rated as a moderately benign.(even while being heavier, and a whole ass van) It’s all down to how the automaker designs the crash structure of the front of the car to not only spread the impact out, but also absorb the impact (slower) so the other car isn’t hitting a brick wall.
@@georgevavoulis4758 A software update will fix it but I can tell you are taking a shot at tesla. Which passed all these tests no issue same with Nissan and other new EVs that have just finished their rounds of testing.
@@Wasmachineman I fully agree . I also can’t imagine a ICE car protecting the people inside very well if they hit a EV because of the EVS ridiculous weight .
Question: Okay - the weight of the Lucid is clearly visible in the way it interacts with the barrier. Is there any information available how aggressive the front end was constructed? In the child safety chapter the imprint on the barrier looked rather "constant".
Same with the AEB/Pedestrian tests, the systems usually worked but the car was so damn heavy that it often barely missed the pedestrians/cyclists or occasionally hit them. Weight is gonna be a huge problem with EVs and compounded with the popularity of SUVs.
The passenger compartment of the Lucid Air remained stable in the frontal offset test. Dummy readings indicated good protection of the knees and femurs of both the driver and passenger. However, Lucid did not provide evidence to demonstrate that a similar level of protection would be provided to occupants of different sizes and to those sitting in different positions, and the score for this body region was penalized. Analysis of the deceleration of the impact trolley during the test, and analysis of the deformable barrier after the test, revealed that the car would be an aggressive impact partner in a frontal collision, and the score was penalised accordingly. In the full-width rigid barrier test, protection of all critical body regions was good or adequate for both the driver and rear passenger. In both the side barrier impact and the more severe side pole test, protection of all critical body areas was good and the Air scored maximum points in this part of the assessment. Control of excursion (the extent to which a body is thrown to the other side of the vehicle when it is hit from the far side) was found to be adequate. The Air has a counter-measure to mitigate against occupant to occupant injuries in such impacts. The system performed well in Euro NCAP’s tests, with good protection of the occupants’ heads. Tests on the front seats and head restraints demonstrated good protection against whiplash injuries in the event of a rear-end collision. A geometric analysis of the rear seats also indicated good whiplash protection. The Air has an advanced eCall system which alerts the emergency services in the event of a crash and a ‘Secondary Collision Mitigation System’ which automatically applies the brakes to prevent secondary collisions. according to euro ncaps website
What's wrong with the seats in the full frontal impact test? I've never seen seats in other vehicles bounce back and forth so much after the impact. Or is this because the floor is too stiff compared to other cars?
My biggest concern with vehicles like this is it’s crash compatibility with normal ICE vehicles. Just look how it swatted the impact ram out the way like it was nothing, that’s exactly what it would do to a regular car. Taking into account how fast these types of cars are, it may cause many fatalities if it’s involved in RTC’s.
So why does the Tesla Model Y electric SUV weigh LESS than the smaller Mercedes GLC SUV with internal combustion engine?! Because of smart design - the problem is that most traditional OEM's haven't learned to take advantage of electric vehicle platforms yet to save weight.
LOL the barrier pushed back like "NOPE!" 😂 From the PDF report: "The passenger compartment of the Lucid Air remained stable in the frontal offset test. Dummy readings indicated good protection of the knees and femurs of both the driver and passenger. However, Lucid did not provide evidence to demonstrate that a similar level of protection would be provided to occupants of different sizes and to those sitting in different positions, and the score for this body region was penalized. Analysis of the deceleration of the impact trolley during the test, and analysis of the deformable barrier after the test, revealed that *the car would be an aggressive impact partner in a frontal collision* , and the score was penalised accordingly. In the full-width rigid barrier test, protection of all critical body regions was good or adequate for both the driver and rear passenger. In both the side barrier impact and the more severe side pole test, protection of all critical body areas was good and the Air scored maximum points in this part of the assessment. Control of excursion (the extent to which a body is thrown to the other side of the vehicle when it is hit from the far side) was found to be adequate. The Air has a counter-measure to mitigate against occupant to occupant injuries in such impacts. The system performed well in Euro NCAP’s tests, with good protection of the occupants’ heads. Tests on the front seats and head restraints demonstrated good protection against whiplash injuries in the event of a rear-end collision. A geometric analysis of the rear seats also indicated good whiplash protection. The Air has an advanced eCall system which alerts the emergency services in the event of a crash and a ‘Secondary Collision Mitigation System’ which automatically applies the brakes to prevent secondary collisions."
I really do worry about the compatibility of small ICE cars with new electric cars. So many of them are over 2 tonnes. Surely this is not safe for other road users in smaller lighter ICE cars. Especially now there are so much more electric cars on the roads. @EuroNCAP_forsafercars what do you think?
So why does the Tesla Model Y electric SUV weigh LESS than the smaller Mercedes GLC SUV with internal combustion engine?! Because of smart design - the problem is that most traditional OEM's haven't learned to take advantage of electric vehicle platforms yet to save weight.
These electric cars are dangerous to other road users if you get hit by one. Whilst with ICE cars designers try and remove weight to make the vehicles more efficient, EV’s have huge and heavy battery packs. In this NCAP test you witness the heavy EV actually push back the ram. Tests should be made by NCAP on the effect collisions with EV’s have on occupant safety in other cars
So why does the Tesla Model Y electric SUV weigh LESS than the smaller Mercedes GLC SUV with internal combustion engine?! Because of smart design - the problem is that most traditional OEM's haven't learned to take advantage of electric vehicle platforms yet to save weight.
I just started thinking, why cars making alarm inside car, when some stupid cyclist or pedestrian reclessly rushing to road, instead of activating external horn, to alarm those morons?
so y’all are still doing a full frontal test (which went out of relevancy over 20 years ago) instead of doing a small overlap test? which literally everyone else BUT euroncap are doing… sounds lazy and flawed to me.
What a horrible big fat thing. So dangerous for other road users. In a head-on collision between two cars, one of which is double the weight of the other, the occupants of the lighter car are eight times likelier to be killed. The Lucid Air weighs 2100kg. The average weight of a car in Europe is 1400kg. But that’s an average; many cars are much smaller and lighter than that. These heavy, powerful electric vehicles are counter-productive in so many ways.
Electric cars have to be heavy and complex at this size class either way you look at it, and people who buy them primarily buy them because electric cars are quieter and easier to drive, not because they're climate friendly, so in this market consumers won't be going back to ICE any time soon. If you have a vehicle class that'll be dominated by EVs in a few years, and have to deal with the weight regardless, you might as well make them safe for the occupants instead of making everyone vulnerable to serious injury.
@@mush857 So why does the Tesla Model Y electric SUV weigh LESS than the smaller Mercedes GLC SUV with internal combustion engine?! Because of smart design - the problem is that most traditional OEM's haven't learned to take advantage of electric vehicle platforms yet to save weight.
@@richyzig So Lucid is not a new forward thinking brand? Also a model y is, in its lightest form 50lbs heavier than a glc300 while having a smaller footprint. Evs have to be heavier to their comparable ice counterpart. doesn't mean it'll stay that way for long, but for now it's true
@@mush857 Model Y has much larger footprint than GLC! Look at the 2023 GLC 4WD - that's the comparable car to the Model Y. EV's don't have to be heavier than ICE's - the Model Y is proof to that now!
@@mush857 Lucid weighs more than 274 kg (+12%) than Tesla Model S and they are the same size. 274 kg - that's carrying around 3 adults with you. The MB EQE weighs the same as the Lucid and is much smaller. They're still learning...
0:09 huh never seen the barrier being thrown back so hard
The car is really heavy
it got penalized for being an aggressive partner in a crash
@@MaticTheProto not really. (yes it’s 5,200 pounds)
but compared to other cars, like the vw id buzz (that’s a whole freaking van, it’s 5,400 pounds)
ID. Buzz got rated as a moderately benign.(even while being heavier, and a whole ass van) It’s all down to how the automaker designs the crash structure of the front of the car to not only spread the impact out, but also absorb the impact (slower) so the other car isn’t hitting a brick wall.
If you watch closely,the whole sled's frame even flexes which is insane.
@@andromeda9340 wow
Lucid air: hits barrier
Also Lucid air: oh no. Anyway
RIP to the pedestrians and bikers getting absolutely wrecked at 2:58 and 3:13
OK so Lucid cars don't like them either 😒🙄
@@georgevavoulis4758 A software update will fix it but I can tell you are taking a shot at tesla. Which passed all these tests no issue same with Nissan and other new EVs that have just finished their rounds of testing.
What I’m noticing with EV crash tests is the crash barrier nearly always gets thrown back rather violently. More violently than with ICE cars.
EVs are stupidly heavy, no wonder they'll fling the MPDB away violently.
@@Wasmachineman I fully agree . I also can’t imagine a ICE car protecting the people inside very well if they hit a EV because of the EVS ridiculous weight .
Really fancy shoes for that kid in the back seat 0:45
Question:
Okay - the weight of the Lucid is clearly visible in the way it interacts with the barrier. Is there any information available how aggressive the front end was constructed?
In the child safety chapter the imprint on the barrier looked rather "constant".
You can find that information on their website.
Same with the AEB/Pedestrian tests, the systems usually worked but the car was so damn heavy that it often barely missed the pedestrians/cyclists or occasionally hit them. Weight is gonna be a huge problem with EVs and compounded with the popularity of SUVs.
@@randomcrashingfacility31
THANK you! Stuck at UA-cam and didn't think of the website
The passenger compartment of the Lucid Air remained stable in the frontal offset test. Dummy readings indicated good protection of the knees and femurs of both the driver and passenger. However, Lucid did not provide evidence to demonstrate that a similar level of protection would be provided to occupants of different sizes and to those sitting in different positions, and the score for this body region was penalized. Analysis of the deceleration of the impact trolley during the test, and analysis of the deformable barrier after the test, revealed that the car would be an aggressive impact partner in a frontal collision, and the score was penalised accordingly. In the full-width rigid barrier test, protection of all critical body regions was good or adequate for both the driver and rear passenger. In both the side barrier impact and the more severe side pole test, protection of all critical body areas was good and the Air scored maximum points in this part of the assessment. Control of excursion (the extent to which a body is thrown to the other side of the vehicle when it is hit from the far side) was found to be adequate. The Air has a counter-measure to mitigate against occupant to occupant injuries in such impacts. The system performed well in Euro NCAP’s tests, with good protection of the occupants’ heads. Tests on the front seats and head restraints demonstrated good protection against whiplash injuries in the event of a rear-end collision. A geometric analysis of the rear seats also indicated good whiplash protection. The Air has an advanced eCall system which alerts the emergency services in the event of a crash and a ‘Secondary Collision Mitigation System’ which automatically applies the brakes to prevent secondary collisions.
according to euro ncaps website
Such a cool car, i love it!
What's wrong with the seats in the full frontal impact test? I've never seen seats in other vehicles bounce back and forth so much after the impact. Or is this because the floor is too stiff compared to other cars?
American quality for you
My biggest concern with vehicles like this is it’s crash compatibility with normal ICE vehicles. Just look how it swatted the impact ram out the way like it was nothing, that’s exactly what it would do to a regular car.
Taking into account how fast these types of cars are, it may cause many fatalities if it’s involved in RTC’s.
And now you understand why SUVs suck, they are ice but already heavy and tall making them super dangerous to pedestrians and smaller cars
So why does the Tesla Model Y electric SUV weigh LESS than the smaller Mercedes GLC SUV with internal combustion engine?! Because of smart design - the problem is that most traditional OEM's haven't learned to take advantage of electric vehicle platforms yet to save weight.
@@richyzigHave you tried instead to consider the possible of Mercedes-Benz fucking up the GLC?
so is officially coming into Europe as well....noice
1 year later, nope.
Why does it roll back after emergency braking?
I was wondering this too. Can't be a particularly good thing considering you might have someone else behind you also needing to to an emergency stop
You can test A baic x25?
LOL the barrier pushed back like "NOPE!" 😂
From the PDF report:
"The passenger compartment of the Lucid Air remained stable in the frontal offset test.
Dummy readings indicated good protection of the knees and femurs of both the driver and passenger.
However, Lucid did not provide evidence to demonstrate that a similar level of protection would be provided to occupants of different sizes and to those sitting in different positions, and the score for this body region was penalized.
Analysis of the deceleration of the impact trolley during the test, and analysis of the deformable barrier after the test, revealed that *the car would be an aggressive impact partner in a frontal collision* , and the score was penalised accordingly.
In the full-width rigid barrier test, protection of all critical body regions was good or adequate for both the driver and rear passenger.
In both the side barrier impact and the more severe side pole test, protection of all critical body areas was good and the Air scored maximum points in this part of the assessment.
Control of excursion (the extent to which a body is thrown to the other side of the vehicle when it is hit from the far side) was found to be adequate. The Air has a counter-measure to mitigate against occupant to occupant injuries in such impacts.
The system performed well in Euro NCAP’s tests, with good protection of the occupants’ heads.
Tests on the front seats and head restraints demonstrated good protection against whiplash injuries in the event of a rear-end collision.
A geometric analysis of the rear seats also indicated good whiplash protection. The Air has an advanced eCall system which alerts the emergency services in the event of a crash and a ‘Secondary Collision Mitigation System’ which automatically applies the brakes to prevent secondary collisions."
Why does the car roll back so much after auto braking??
Laminated glass on side windows??
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I don’t really like at 0:50 where the dummy’s legs go up it can possibly break
0:29 honk
Rip pedestrian's
I like the lucid air
This person in the back finna get whiplash😂
Side pole crash, insanely rigidity
Pls TOGG Car Test!
I notice the seatbelts allow way too much forward motion . I was expecting 95% on all tests 😪😔😌
What’s the second thing is that the car crash in the wall and it sounded the horse
3 cars from this video standing in my job right now xD
super tough car!
Did you watched this video in Lucid mode of?
Heavy like a train 🚂
You don't want to be on it's way
how safe is battery pack after accident?
If the battery blew up during the tests we'd know about it
Why don't they do rear impact tests? I think more than half of the cars would have 0 stars!
That's why they do the whiplash test, but, if you must, go look up FMVSS 301, which tests fuel tanks in a rear end collision
The first thing I saw, was the two car collide and the entire front explode
I prefer the lucid warning sound more then Tesla
FINALLY !!!!!
I really do worry about the compatibility of small ICE cars with new electric cars. So many of them are over 2 tonnes. Surely this is not safe for other road users in smaller lighter ICE cars. Especially now there are so much more electric cars on the roads. @EuroNCAP_forsafercars what do you think?
As if there aren't any ICE pickup trucks, SUVs, vans etc. It's probably better to crash into an EV as there's no engine in the front.
So why does the Tesla Model Y electric SUV weigh LESS than the smaller Mercedes GLC SUV with internal combustion engine?! Because of smart design - the problem is that most traditional OEM's haven't learned to take advantage of electric vehicle platforms yet to save weight.
how come there is no Rivian crash test yet?
Not officially sold in Europe
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32km/h ? I would like to see speeds used on actual roads
80+ km/h
How would it stop it’s self at that speed? That unrealistic
I'm not crying. 😭😭😭You're crying. 😭😭😭
At 0:29 That’s really inappropriate horn sound for a car like this. Sounds like economy car horn 😅
Not a bad sound figuring the horn just got crushed by the wall lmfao
I would love see it face off with a Volvo,its looks very sturdy...
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woooo
Sayın euro ncap yetkilileri kaza testlerini saate 90 km saat olarak yapın....
beamng drive CRASH TEST ❤
These electric cars are dangerous to other road users if you get hit by one. Whilst with ICE cars designers try and remove weight to make the vehicles more efficient, EV’s have huge and heavy battery packs. In this NCAP test you witness the heavy EV actually push back the ram.
Tests should be made by NCAP on the effect collisions with EV’s have on occupant safety in other cars
So why does the Tesla Model Y electric SUV weigh LESS than the smaller Mercedes GLC SUV with internal combustion engine?! Because of smart design - the problem is that most traditional OEM's haven't learned to take advantage of electric vehicle platforms yet to save weight.
Most cars on the road are just as heavy as your average Tesla. Most people drive big SUVs these days, which are around 4500 pounds
Good thing these cars have modern collision avoidance features, making accidents far less likely and far less deadly.
Okie
Bro they crashed like 7 of them no wonder why are they going broke
5 Sterne! 💪🏼
I just started thinking, why cars making alarm inside car, when some stupid cyclist or pedestrian reclessly rushing to road, instead of activating external horn, to alarm those morons?
Terrible idea, so every time the system activates to avoid an accident regardless of who’s fault it is it’ll blast the horn???
so y’all are still doing a full frontal test (which went out of relevancy over 20 years ago) instead of doing a small overlap test? which literally everyone else BUT euroncap are doing… sounds lazy and flawed to me.
Safe sedan
The Ford has three hawks win crash
Looooocid motors, killed Dummy Cyclest.
lol
Tesla did it better 🤷🏽♂️
Your point?
What a horrible big fat thing. So dangerous for other road users. In a head-on collision between two cars, one of which is double the weight of the other, the occupants of the lighter car are eight times likelier to be killed. The Lucid Air weighs 2100kg. The average weight of a car in Europe is 1400kg. But that’s an average; many cars are much smaller and lighter than that. These heavy, powerful electric vehicles are counter-productive in so many ways.
Electric cars have to be heavy and complex at this size class either way you look at it, and people who buy them primarily buy them because electric cars are quieter and easier to drive, not because they're climate friendly, so in this market consumers won't be going back to ICE any time soon. If you have a vehicle class that'll be dominated by EVs in a few years, and have to deal with the weight regardless, you might as well make them safe for the occupants instead of making everyone vulnerable to serious injury.
@@mush857 So why does the Tesla Model Y electric SUV weigh LESS than the smaller Mercedes GLC SUV with internal combustion engine?! Because of smart design - the problem is that most traditional OEM's haven't learned to take advantage of electric vehicle platforms yet to save weight.
@@richyzig So Lucid is not a new forward thinking brand? Also a model y is, in its lightest form 50lbs heavier than a glc300 while having a smaller footprint. Evs have to be heavier to their comparable ice counterpart. doesn't mean it'll stay that way for long, but for now it's true
@@mush857 Model Y has much larger footprint than GLC! Look at the 2023 GLC 4WD - that's the comparable car to the Model Y. EV's don't have to be heavier than ICE's - the Model Y is proof to that now!
@@mush857 Lucid weighs more than 274 kg (+12%) than Tesla Model S and they are the same size. 274 kg - that's carrying around 3 adults with you. The MB EQE weighs the same as the Lucid and is much smaller. They're still learning...
Your tests are ridiculous. Iihs absolutely obliterates your testing. It's time to update your crash testing
Very bad ideo editing.. many crash scenes are cut in the begging.. if you don’t like your job, just quit..
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