Random Trains | The Shay and the Royal Blue
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- This week we are running two of my most requested trains! One of them is the long-awaited Shay but there is a twist. Did this version (C&O No.1) of the Shay exist??
Which ones??? Watch to find out!
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Hello Everyone! Thank you for all of the great info you have been sharing on our C&O Shay! I actually updated the name of this video as I found it has been a great way for folks to share info on the Shay that I run in the second half of this video. Appreciate all of you!
Yes this shay does exist
Do the daylight
The C&O shays were actually ex-Southern Railway locomotives. The locomotives’ were 4000 and 4001 on the Southern and when sold to the C&O were lettered 14 and 15.
The Southern Railway had shays?
I can second this. They ended up getting sold to the Greenbrier Cheat & Elk, which eventually became the Cass Scenic Railroad.
Random question but if you could quesstimate a percentage how much of your train running days are putting trains on and off the track?
Great question! I spend 75% of my time putting trains on the track. 20% of my time is moving the camera around. 5% is actually running the trains, haha!
Finally the shay
The shay, climax, hisler and others were used on steep grades and quickly formed track in the mountains. I have a g scale one which has a cool feature that shays had which was a water pipe so it could get water from lakes. The shay in pictures shunted. The gearing was exposed for easy maintenance and better traction. It had 2 trucks like the one I have and the 3 truck you have. The c&o did have a shy on the loop creek branch so this was based on a prototype. These locos weren’t meant for speed at a top of 20mph. These were built in the 1880-1930s. Lionel also makes a weastern Maryland shay. I only learned this because I got a g scale shay. I guess thanks for running it and your welcome for a few facts.
The B&O 4 4 0 and its coaches are artwork for a model railroad. Stunning.
Living here in West Virginia the C&O actually had a 4 Truck Shay #4. It was Scrapped. Been to Cass many Times. I do think the Lionel Legacy Shays sound more like one's at Cass. Still an awesome Shay. MTH needs to make a New One along with the Climax.
4 Truck shays were very uncommon on a lot of logging railroads, This C&O model in this video to my knowledge never owned that prototype, The only known railroad that operated a 4 truck shay was the West Virginia Pulp & Paper Company which MTH produced in there very first run of this model back in the 90s. The sound set on that engine is killer, especially the last whistle you showcased, such a bone chilling whistle and echo! great video as always bud!
IDK, this one book I read that was basically a list of the C&O's motive power throughout history claimed they owned a total of 16 4 truck Shays that they used on a branch line, I can't remember the name of the branch line though.
@@brendanschyve6876 ay. Heck that engine was initially owned by the C&O with the number six. She was built in 1906 as works number 1586, but was sold off to the West Virginia Pulp & Paper Company in February of 1924
The book is C&O Power by Shuster, Huddleston, and Staufer. It says the first shay was numbered 7 and they were numbered downward to 1 then up from 7. They were designated the C-9 class and 16 of them were acquired
@@steamingoncoffee6192 Yeah, I think that's the one. It also mentioned something about the C&O purchasing a couple of used Shays, and they did have at least one or two 3 truck Shays as well.
Cass Scenic Railroad in West Virginia has 6 shays (5 are in service) and a Climax and a Heisler.
RBP Trains you NEED to do a video on lineing up all your locomotives and run them on the layout PLEASE!!!!
Looking into this and might try later this year. Thanks for watching!
I love your passion for the hobby! Really encourages me with my layout, and my own passion. Thanks RBP!
Finally, the American 4-4-0! Love that set, beautiful paint scheme.
Oh no you didn’t! 😆😂
Shays are glorious and eaisily my favorite class of steam locomotive. The sheer level of we need a thing so we made a thing to do the thing and it does it damn well just captures my heart
Funny how both these engines have steam whistles like European engines. Not those typical American large howling ones that I always love when watching 1940's Hollywood movies!
That Shay engine looks massive!! Was the original of that one really made for standard gauge track?
Three truck Shay is my favorite because how fastening the gears are😅😅😊😊
Love it Chris ❤️, I’m absolutely adding a 2023 MTH Shay to my collection. 👍🏻
You should do the 2 legends double header the UP bigboy and UP 844 with passenger cars.
Yes those shays did exist, not many were made or ordered but were some of the largest versions made. There were a few 3 trucks that exceeded its tonnage and were literal monster's on 3 ft rail.
That shay is very nice Chris. I too love those older style passenger cars from MTH and now Lionel.
The Shay is my favorite!!! Just a work of art! Wish that MTH is still around.
Yeah C&O shay 1 existed, it was a class C-9 and was built in december 1907. She worked on the cabin creek sub division for most of her life. And was retired in mid 1923. This is all i can find in a book called C&O power.
When you said that the shays were run at low speed, that was because the gearing built into their motion limited top speed. If fact, the fastest a shay has ever been recorded going was 18 mph. And that was during "The Great Shay Race" at Railfair '99.
Great video. I really enjoyed watching. It's really good motivation for me to keep uploading on my channel. Keep the videos coming. I'm really enjoying them
Nice video Chris! I’m looking to get a Shay one day! Love to find a unlettered one some day. I also have a Royal Blue in On30! That was my first ever model train. It’s not exactly the same but it’s pretty close! The coaches look identical and the engine is a 2-6-0 instead but it’s pretty cool to see a Royal Blue in O Scale!
There may have been a Shay 1 on the C&O. But it's most likely that it was not a 4 truck Shay. There are barely ant photos online of an C&O Shay.
I did run across a 4 Truck Shay for the C&O and it was numbered number 4. Of course it was Scrapped.
I have never seen a loco like the Shay. Vertical throw instead of horizontal??!?!?! INTERESTING!!!!
Can you please run the 611 because it is me and my dad’s favorite!!!!
I would have to vote for the Shaw. The smoke unit is very convincing. Do like the Royal Blue. The Passenger cars are great! JH
Big boy the first one and the other one
Again brotherman, Run MTH SANTA FE WAR BONNET,beautiful isn't she? J.M. & H.M.😉😊😋😇😀
There's a Standard Gauge Shay like this at Strasburg Railroad in the Pennsylvania Museum not sure what number but she's there with a Climax completely restored and on display
I took your admonishment to heart. I am relaxing, sitting in my recliner and enjoying a glass of wine. Great video as always.
Sounds excellent! As soon as I upload, I also kick back and relax for a while, haha!
Ah, nothing like a fun "Chug-A-Thon" with Mr. Chris!
First off to answer your Shay question Chris YES, the C&O DID have four-truck Shays, sixteen of them in fact numbered #1 through #15 and then #20. All built in 1903 by Lima Locomotive Works they were retired in 1923. So the mystery's solved. And MTH got that machine gun-like exhaust beat correct! I was up close and personal to a Shay at the Pine Creek Railroad in Allaire NJ over 50 years ago and as it passed me I could feel the thump-thump-thump of the machinery through the soles of my feet. It felt like it was hammering the ground! Sorry, but I don't remember what the PCRR Shays whistle sounded like.
That B&O "Royal Blue" is downright elegant, no other way to describe it! The engine looks like a jackrabbit with those huge drivers (I wonder how fast it'll go? Maybe it's better not to try?) and I just loved the car's interior details, especially the woman in the "Gibson Girl" outfit.
The 1890 B&O station announcements? Let's just say the man on the platform has a top-quality megaphone and the station has excellent acoustics!
One last thing, the C&O also had one three-truck Shay, #16. Built in 1911, also by Lima, sold off in 1921.
Fun video, and thanks for the show!
Its a d class shay, sorry I don’t have my documentation on shay classes handy to tell you more, the d class as I remember is the largest and most powerful of them and not many were created by Lima locomotive works.
Shays are glorious and eaisily my favorite class of steam locomotive. The sheer level of we need a thing so we made a thing to do the thing and it does it damn well just captures my heart.
the shay you have was not a lumber railroads. its a model of a western Maryland loco used on a coal branch. it was built late and if I remember right it was a one of a kind.
Run 3949 with just its auxiliary tender!
(If you have the GEVO, run that behind it)
Whoa.... that smoke is Serious on that Shay!!!! Great looking too!
Love your channel! I remember as a child my dad had a Lionel steam locative with some freight cars , I would spend hours setting up the track in the family room on the floor. The smoke was generated by small pills you would drop in the smoke stack. Lots of fond memories! Fast forward to now at age 65 my wife and I live full time in an rv ( love the lifestyle) so no room for trains, so I get my fix watching your channel , thanks!
Yay 4-4-0! Thanks Chris!!!! 😁😁😁😁👍👍👍👏👏👏
That was a treat! What a wonderful presentation! Thank you Chris. If there is another video showing laying the track, setting up the power blocks and wiring the layout I sure would watch it. How did you design your layout? Did you use a computer program?
Hey Chris those engines that you ran were good ideas, for the next one you should do the Lionel C&O Berkshire because we have not seen a lot of that engine yet and that one is of my favorites
Blue goose? Maybe run a lash up of all Santa Fe steam you have. Also I’ve got to agree with you, royal blue suits that engine very well!
Chris, as for the 4 truck shays, there were many 2 and 3 trucks shays were built, but not many of the 4 truck shays. This includes the West virginia paper and pulp (original mth run) mower lumber, and a couple others. I believe they wernt technically built as a 4 truck but converted from 3 trucks. When western maryland railroad took over a logging branch, rumor was that they extended the tenders capacity- ordered a kit from lima to extend the tenders. So they can remove all the water towers along the logging line. So there is such a thing as a western maryland 4 truck i believe. Glad to see you run the mth shay! Not too many videos of the newer run of shays out there.
Thanks Chris, great video!
You cured my curiosity, that 4-4-0 is beautiful and so are the cars.
Thanks again, Ron
Great video Chris! Love the B&O Royal Blue engine and cars. I had considered getting those, but just didn't pull the trigger. I do have the MTH Western Maryland shay. I run it with the Elk River log cars and a Western Maryland bobber caboose. And yes, being a Maryland resident, you NEED that Western Maryland shay. 😁
Very understandable! As a Jersey guy I just HAD to have a Blue Comet set!
Haha! One of these days I will add the WM Shay. :)
What a beautiful steam engine and passenger cars
Thank you for another terrific episode, Chris 👍
Can you do 4014 and 844 together please
THat Shay is remarkable. There is one of those coming to HO that is driven prototypically. Looking forward to grabbing one.
I would like to see you run either the Niagara or the C&O L1
Thanks Chris! Love both those engines, great video! Do you by chance have the Lionel 120th anniversary set?
Thank you! I do not have the 120th Anniversary Set. Maybe one day...
The royal blue is gorgeous
Love the whistle on the Shay.
Hi Chris, I loved your locomotives in this video. I actually have a UP 0-4-0 yard switcher that has the same "hooter" whistle as your 4-4-0 Baldwin - very cool.
Hi Chris,
The Royal Blue is a totally beautiful engine, almost as awesome as the European locomotives. Enjoyed this video and look forward to your next production. Thanks 👍🙂
Bravo! Loved both.
Love the Shay & her sounds, a little work horse. Royal Blue is great too! Thanks Chris (brotherman). 😄😄👍👍
I love Shays! I drove from Jacksonvile, Fl. just to see them at Cass and they were awesome! I have a Climax but still looking to get a Shay.
My Great Grandfather worked for the B&O from age 14 until he retired. Many years were spent as engineer on 2-8- 0 #1212. I'd love to havd that B&O 4-4-0 on my layout to honor my great Grandfather. Good stuff. Also....I live minutes from CASS WV and WM Shay #6 works there almost every day......I do have that loco on my O scale layout!!!! thx
Cool story about your Grandfather. Must also be great living so close to Cass and being able to see those engines. Have a great weekend Dave!
@@RBPTrains Thanks SIR!!!!!
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Shut up
Your shows are always a pleasure to view. And I also learn something new when watched. Thanks Chris
p.s. where's your partner from Detroit been ? He must be planning something surprising ! 👍
Thanks Jim! Jason has been on business travel for a while but is back and working on the layout. Lots of cool stuff coming up from his neck of the woods. Thanks for watching!
I love the 1st train
polar express
Strasburg railroad
I would like to see you run a double header with the PRR S1 and a GG1, and if you don't have a GG1 that's okay, and put some Strasburg or Pennsylvania Railroad coaches behind them.
Nice video Chris, love the engines you ran.
Thanks David!
Wow that B/O train is a real beauty The whistle is a real audio Q tip I got to ride the Cass scenic railroad to the top of the mountain what a great day good memories
Dear RBPTrains,please run the Daylight Exspress and the 611 type.Keep the O GAUGE trains comming.
Great video Chris. I enjoyed it very very much. I'm not really a steam guy but the Shay is an exception. It was great fun watching it run around the track today and what fascinates me are all of the moving parts. I believe they were used in the logging profession to go up and down the hills or mountains. If I do get a steamer I will be on the lookout for a Shay. Please keep your videos coming. They are both informative and fun to watch. I love the history that you speak about on your videos about the trains and time period they operated in and where you can see them in real life. Great job Chris.
you should a race with you engine on your layout it should be called the great race of rbp train great video
Here's something. B&O EM-1 and C&O H-8 Allegheny
There were at least 3 four truck shays. All 3 were owned by the Greenbrier Cheat & Elk which were numbered 12, 13, and 14. The 12 was originally a 150 ton three truck shay but had 40 tons added and a fourth truck (Western Maryland #6 is based on the 12). The 12 was wrecked at Spruce in 1942, which caused frame damage, and was scrapped in 1956-57. The 13 was a 150 ton four truck shay and was bought by the GC&E from the C&O in the 1920’s and was scrapped in 1956-57. The 14 came with the 13 to the GC&E, but was sold to the WM in the 30’s and was replaced by WM #6.
The C&O Historical Society published an article on the C&O shays in their magazine back in 2008. The MTH model is closest to C&O class C-9 road numbers 1-6 and 8-15. These operated from 1903 to 1923 on the Seng Creek, Laurel Creek, Keeney's Creek, and Rend Subdivisions in WVa. They were used to haul coal from the mines over steep grades and apparently never were used for logging. The Keeney's Creek line alone had a 4.16% grade. Track realignments to lessen the grades eventually eliminated the need for the shays and they were retired or sold off in the 1920's. Because they operated in an era which few people model they are relatively unknown.
The MTH model is fairly close to the C&O engines with the biggest visual difference being the stack. The C&O engines had straight stacks rather than the balloon type MTH used. Also from actual photos it looks like 1-6 had wooden cabs and 8-15 had steel cabs.
Thanks for posting the video. Beautiful model. I have been looking for one of these for a while so if you ever want to sell it, let me know. : )
Random Idea: triple heading MTH Premier Allegheny, Lionel VL Big Boy, and the Lionel Vision Line Santa Fe 2-10-10-2
RBP Trans.. I found that Shay doing pushing log train or a coal train.. I'm not to sure.. Of the year... When that Shay's build date. And i like your videos
That shay locomotive is based on a couple of Class D's that were made, the first three were on the Greenbrier, Cheat & Elk. which later became Mower Lumber co. and they were numbered 12, 13, & 14. shay 13 and 14 were scrapped before 1940's while shay 12 was scrapped in 1959, around a year before MLC closed. Closest shay in term of size would have to be Western Maryland No. 6 which is a 150-3 Class C shay of 1945. and is the last one to be built by Lima and is heaviest shay left. The extended water tender was increased by 40 tons so Shays 12 to 14 would of been 190-4 Class D Shays
Just started watching and you’re gettin me back into modeling again 😁
Welcome aboard Matthew! Thanks for watching!
The 4-truck shay did exist! There were only 4 built, but I don't think the C&O owned any. The El Paso Rock Island Line owned at least 1, and the West Virginia Pulp & Paper Company 1. The reason for not having more 4-truck shays is because the 4th truck doesn't do much for tractive effort. I don't know much about the WV paper co., but the El Paso Rock Island needed them because the water quality along the line wasn't usable for running engines, so they opted for a 4-truck configuration to hold more water in the tender. Also, there were 3-truck shays that were larger and more powerful than the 4-truck designs, so more water was the only real reason for having a 4-truck shay.
Okay, Time to make good! MTH just announced a run and WM #6 3 truck Shay is in the lineup this time!! One of the Cass 3 trucks is as well! RBP logging railroad by winter! 😁
If you could if you have UP 1989 and have 4014 run tighter with a UP desel engine pulling UP passenger cars you can recreate the 2021 run of the big boy
The MTH B&O 4-4-0 looks exactly like the one from RDR2 Story Mode
Hey Chris C&O had 3 shays all 4 truck but are numbered 2-4 bought in 1906 from Shay Locomotive 2 went to Thurmond WVa and #3 went to Cane Fork WVa
Yes your C&O #1 4-truck Shay did exist in real life. The C&O only purchased 2 from the Southern Railroad.they were numbered 14 & 15.
Southern sold them to C&O. SOUTHERN railway bought them to battle Saluda grade.
C&O shays where primarily coal haulers. Along with the western Maryland number 6. Number 6 was mainly used on the vindex branch in Garrett county and in West Virginia
The C&O Shay existed, but your B&O 4-4-0 did not (at least, not as a B&O locomotive anyway). The model is a re-branding of the New York Central & Hudson River Railroad 999, which was built with unusually large 89” drive wheels to attempt a speed record (it was claimed to be the first steam locomotive to go over 100mph). It was given smaller drivers for regular service, and still exists in much rebuilt form at the Chicago Science Museum. The B&O did have 4-4-0s of course, but this model does not accurately represent any of them.
4014 Restoration Big Boy, 4449 Daylight, C&O Allegheny, and a newer model N&W #611 are some trains I’d like to see
I'm glad I suggested the 2nd engine
I am glad too! Great suggestion :)
The 1890's 4-4-0 isn't a Baldwin. It's a West Albany...
I’m a Shay expert, but not the train😂 it’s my fiancées name. She told me to put this here. Very weird and cool train! Love all the moving parts it has!!!
Why are you pronouncing Strasburg incorrectly? It's Strazburg not Straassburg
two great engines!
It's a class D four axle truck shay locomotive that was probably sold or scraped in the 1950s or 60s
The B&O 4-4-0 is a good locomotive. I was able to pick up the mth prototype out of their auction a while back. Looks and runs great. It for the most part it sits in a display case!
I believe that the Cass Scenic Railroad had a C&O Railway shay, but scrapped it in the 1970's I believe.
I like that engine I got me a lionel shay number Cass Scenic Railroad o scale & that beautiful color shay locomotive.
Love the B&O with the 64 ft wood passenger cars!
Great video Chris. I have to say that the Shay holds a special place in my heart ❤️ it's just super unique among the iron horses. Thanks for sharing your layout with us again.
I got the Shay for my Birthday a few years back (whole family pitched in) so I agree that it is special to me as well. Take care Jason!
Hi rbp, I would just like to say that my least favorite locomotives are called shay locomotives and I don't think they are very nice to look at because of the off centered boiler and firebox. I would recommend getting the royal blue streamlined steam locomotive and the set of coaches. I think your channel is the funniest channel and I am a huge fan of the channel.
Does your ego and wallet have any limit? I don't watch your I,I,I channel.
Honestly, seeing that 4-4-0 reminded me of one of the LNER Atlantics with a whole rake of Teak coaches, British train thing