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I dont see bind button in betaflight.... when i type bind_rx it says command unknown..Binding IDS are the same...frustrated but its probably something im missing
8:52 Makes complete sense now of your experience with the newer motors. Thanks for sharing that even veteran pilots can still struggle with new quads, and each person must make it their own (be it rates, curve mods, etc).
I guarantee you'll see a bunch of people who are closed minded about anything new (like 90% of the FPV community lately!) and will just sh*t on this motor without considering how it should be utilized. I try to keep an open mind about all these things and take into consideration wider use cases.
Yeah, I almost gave it away a few times but some annoying guy kept telling me to sell it to him for $10 or $20 and I thought that was pretty lame, blocked him and decided to hang on to it.
I like how you keep the older quads around for comparisons, its important info, thanks. It's so easy to swap out tiny whoop motors if you dont like these ones and a set of 4 are usually cheap.
Another great review and thanks for not hyping up the motor like all the shill channels will. You gave some really good perspective on the 0702 motor compared to the 0802. Keep up the good work!
When Happymodel announced this BNF on Facebook, Angry Don was quite unhappy. I think he recommended to them that they use the Diamond F4 (moblite) FC. I'm not sure how he felt about the kV, but he wasn't happy about this FC because of the short flight time. I think sometimes HM picks and chooses which of his suggestions to use and which to ignore.
Great review and explanation of the difference between the old and new model. I didn't think the gram in savings would be enough to make up for the smaller higher kv motors. I think it would be interesting to build my own with 802 19,000kv motors. A good entry into elrs for me. Happy flying Albert. 🤓
Appreciate the way you go into detail about flight difference depending the batteries used and also the old vs new comparison. Really helps when making a purchase decision. Do you think ELRS will become the new standard?
ELRS will be on everything soon. It's cheaper, has better range, and is easier to integrate than any other receivers out now. It's only a matter of time.
ELRS is already pretty damn close to that stage. It may not be on a ton of AIO boards, but the receivers themselves are already small enough that it's a non-issue for most if you're able to solder. The only thing holding ELRS back is the stock of RX and TX modules tbh.
I've had my custom Meteor65 built with 0603 to save weight and went to 0802 after. I noticed the same thing with the higher throttle being needed and set a custom curve to compensate but I also felt it was slightly less responsive to bursts of throttle. The smaller motors we're also more fragile, the top and side of the bell kept separating in harder crashes. My only experience with 070X motors was years ago with an Eachine and that thing was too current hungry for the batteries I had at the time.
Yep, same observations. I do think there is still a place for additional motor sizes for different types of flying. I imagine some races being under 2 minutes but more like drag races with all out speed. For that kind of race, the 0702 will beat the 0802 motor. However, I also think the 0702 motor needs to be on something lighter to take full advantage of the motor size. The point is, we need other sizes so we get more variation is racing styles. It's all the same right now. 🥱
Thanks for covering these motors albert. While they may have missed the mark with this setup, I'd sure be interested in seeing how 0702 would do with biblade 40mm props and at 19-20k kv on a moblite 7 type setup.
Ahh the ole URUAV UR65! I still fly mine and the reason I keep flying it is I swapped out those motors for the 19000kv Mobula6 motors plus the 3 blade props also used on the Mobula6. It transformed the quad for the better in all areas especially the run time. If you have a UR65 doing nothing throw some Mob6 motors on it and have fun. Looking at the specs of the Mobula6 ELRS you would think they were catering towards a whoop version of long range with it's dipole vtx antenna and elrs + the 2 bladed props but then it grinds to a halt when I saw the KV and the size motors. Short flight times negate all the electronic advancements.
Yep, that is the most popular upgrade for the UR65. I kept mine totally stock so I can do comparisons as newer models come out. Amazing how much better the new models are compared to the older ones.
I didn’t know these motors would be such a noticeable difference over the previous model versions, interesting, I’ll keep this in mind when mine arrives by post :)
For the ERLS setup the 0802 would make more people happy but it's easy to make that setup if you already have the mobula6 and just add in the AIO FC. These 0702 motors would have been better on an updated moblite6 instead.
You're gonna see a lot of "expert" pilots on Facebook make claims it's the same as the 0802 and just lighter to sell on their affiliate links. Just you wait and see... 🤣
Just bought the original mobula 6 and was going to add the small crossfire to it. Does it increase the range that much? Bought it more for the house anyway but just wanna know incase I do go out with it I'll have a idea of the range I'll have. And should I even worry about adding it?
Interesting. Lower KV might be the sweet spot for most but I’m sure they tested it and landed there. Someone like AyyyKayyy could rip it at that KV no doubt. I’d be curious how long the flight time is on Nitro Nectars.
I think I would just swap out the AIO on my Mobula6 and keep the 0802 motors. I would then compare the bi-blades to the tri-blades to see which gives me the better performance.
Awesome flying and review, Albert! 😃 About the older Mobula 6, do you think it has a full free UART to put a ELRS receiver in it? 🤔 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Wow, that Runcam nano3 DVR looks soooo much better than the same one that comes with the Moblite6/7... strange O_o ...maybe mine is just a bit banged up
I dont really feel like it's an apples to apples comparison with those motors beings they have different props. Can you put a tri blade on the 0702 or is that too much amp draw? Also, is that green frame just a different color than the classic white or do you think it's more durable?
So is it as much fun? The thing about the Mob6 is it's always fun, even if there are better quads available to fly. Is this new version as much fun, or have they traded fun for higher performance?
Its a tough decision to be honest and to tell the truth especially when the company profits(happymodel here) depends on such reviews! Honor your courage and honesty!
Why he doesn't get more supporters than shill channels is beyond belief. I guess people believe the lies and double down on resisting the truth. It's sad to see.
Hi, could you do a comparison or comments between Mobula6 ELRS and Meteor65 ELRS, Meteor75 ELRS in terms of flying time, VTX signals etc. for newbie to decide. Thanks.
Flying range is going to be the same for ELRS. I've gone out more than 500m on just 25mW output power. But that range is meaningless because you can't fly long enough to go out far enough to failsafe it because you are limited by battery life. This Mobula6 ELRS gets about 2-2.5 minutes as you saw in this video. I don't have the Meteor65 ELRS but I think that one will get more flight time and about 3-3.5 minutes. I got about that much with the Beta75. The BETAFPV whoops with ELRS now have 350mW VTXes in them. So more video power than the HM ones at 200mW but 200mW is still more than enough because you can't fly far enough away on the small battery.
Hey Albert... the kid an I love our 2.4ghz elrs versions... however I am have having a heck of a time with the batteries. For some reason they are not charging all the way. Bought some new gnb 350mah ones and the same thing is happening. Do you think it could be the connectors on the batteries? was thinking of upgrading the connectors to the betafpv ones but not sure. We get at least 2 to 2.5 minutes which gives us a few laps around our house track but this is the only thing bugging me lol.
So the batteries are new but they don't charge up all the way? How much do they charge up to? 4.0v? Less? What charger are you using? Maybe that charger went bad?
@@AlbertKimTV I think the battery checker I use opened up the connectors a little to much on a a few of the batteries. That could be it as well. Storage charged a rdq 1s 525mah with ph2 connector and it is right at 3.80 and I have had this battery sitting for over 8mo. You are right on the happy model batts as they are not doing well lol. Again... this is why I said your video's are perfect. These little quads are awesome none the less as we fly in stab mode and have a great time zipping around our house.
I'm so cheap. I cannot spend 4 bucks on tiny byblades. Prefere to cut 2 blades off the cheap hq quad blade props. I do like how much more zing the byblades have but not the grip.
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Great info, thanks for the review. Have a lot of 1s 450-batteries lying around. Would that be a bad choice for this one in terms of weight and performance or is the 300mah the best alternative after all?
I just switched my Mob6 to a 75mm frame and 40mm. I guess it’s more like a Mob7 now hahaha ELRS is definitely the big selling point for this new drone, the price of ELRS is so appealing. I’ve got a Tango 2 and Mambo, but man now I kinda just want to use ELRS instead cause it’s so awesome how it’s integrating into FCs like this.
@@AlbertKimTV I’ve heard this got some prop wash issues that true? Would you rather this mobula6 w elrs or the crux35 4s w elrs ?? Or both… I know the crux35 is in the middle of whoop & normal sized drone
I'd go with 2.4 GHz just because you have the option of the ceramic antenna for micros (especially with the HappyModel AIO board) and a higher refresh rate for freestyling/racing. Both 2.4 GHz and 915 MHz have "too much" range for most people, but 915 MHz should have more range. Wezley Varty got to 35 kilometers without fail-safing on 2.4 GHz @ 100mW & 250 Hz, was limited by his video link.
I have a sneaking suspicion that 0702 was chosen to make up for the weight increase from the ELRS FC. 0802 became popular because of the much better yaw authority compared to 0603. 0702 is a step backward
I do appreciate having more choices on the motor size, and 0702 will be great for lighter builds like Angry Don's 14g whoop. For this particular application, less yaw authority and less responsive throttle sound like a suboptimal choice, I guess with my flying style
Any idea why the RSSI in the configuration page under the arming flags would randomly drop out every half second or so? I’m using happymodel es24tx with a Radiomaster tx16s max.
Assuming you have a compatible module on the radio with the same firmware series, you can just follow the instructions on this web page... www.expresslrs.org/quick-start/binding/
I hope they continue to offer a variety of different part options for those of us who want to do custom builds and I hope they ignore all those haters who just hurt themselves by complaining every time something new comes out.
is this the same FC that HappyModel sells for whoops. I upgraded my mob6 with their ELRS spi board. Had problems because ELRS on the HappyModel is really not supported in BetaFlight and you have to use a branch. The ELRS doesn't have WiFi, nor does BF 4.2.9 support passthru for ELRS. So, basically, I'm stuck until BF 4.3. Also, the vtx on the standalone board, I believe went up to 200 mw, while the original is 25 mw. Couldn't really make a complete circle around my house without vtx dropping out with 25 mw. Thanks for the update.
This is the same board I showed in the video. All the SPI based ELRS receivers are only supported via a Betaflight firmware update and that is different from the rest of the ecosystem. You have to use configurator 10.8.0 to setup the board properly. The VTX on this new board will go up to 200mW if you use the correct configurator. This just requires a little bit of a learning curve to figure out and you should expect new AIO FC boards with SPI based ELRS to operate the same way. They don't plan on changing this so it would be best to learn how it works so you can use it to it's max potential.
@@AlbertKimTV ty. yes, this is basically a no-brainer for HappyModel. I couldn't fly acro-mode prior to getting my Mob6, so it will always have a special place for me.
@@betitaelfica2 if you are responding to me. This is def better than the original board, just a pain right now updating it. ELRS over SPI is relatively new and RELEASED software has yet to catch up.
Please test it with the NN Gold batteries or the GNB 1S 380mah (purple label). Or even the new Tattu 1S 300mAh w/ BT2.0. I'm curious if it does a little better on flight time with those batteries. In my experience, those red GNB 300's are just slightly less bad than the ones Happymodel includes with the quad.
According to their Facebook post, they should have them in stock. I suspect they haven't updated their back-end system to show correct information on ordering. You'll get it sooner than that.
Was planning to buy this last aliexprs sale as I thought it would have more flight time. And I can use the FC for a LR 1s build.. But the motor made me hesitate. Good there’s already a review of this model 👍🏼. Will skip this for now.
Let's see... I can go about 300m in one minute then turn around to fly back for one minute then my battery is dead. 😎 Using ELRS on this little guy is not for long range but for the ultra-low latency link. On something else with more battery like, I've seen these little SMD antenna based setups go up to 3KM. If you need range, you need to get the ones with the standard antennas. Those go up to 30-40km in the right setup.
Man, if only there were KNOWN Whoop experts out there that have tested almost every combo and could tell every single manufacturer EXACTLY what to build for almost any Whoop application...maybe someday we'll have those experts. ;)
I would absolutely hate a world where only a few people and their "expert" opinions limited my options and choices for parts and models. Just because something isn't the best for those few experts doesn't mean those things should not exist for people with different preferences. I hope all these companies will continue to make an even larger variety of parts and models despite the complaints of the "experts".
@@AlbertKimTV The problem isn't that there are different opinions and knowledge being applied the majority of time in Whoops and micros. The problem is that little knowledge and testing is applied to a lot of Whoop products and we almost get good products that would be a great base for a lot of diversity in the market. You're confusing experts making niche products versus using those same experts to make base products that could be a lot of things from a simple BNF for a beginner to a niche product for the extremes.
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I dont see bind button in betaflight.... when i type bind_rx it says command unknown..Binding IDS are the same...frustrated but its probably something im missing
8:52 Makes complete sense now of your experience with the newer motors. Thanks for sharing that even veteran pilots can still struggle with new quads, and each person must make it their own (be it rates, curve mods, etc).
I guarantee you'll see a bunch of people who are closed minded about anything new (like 90% of the FPV community lately!) and will just sh*t on this motor without considering how it should be utilized. I try to keep an open mind about all these things and take into consideration wider use cases.
@@AlbertKimTV you do you man! Forget about those trolls. I like that you mention about getting used to the motors and your struggle.
Another fantastic review. I can't believe you still have the UR65 in nearly pristine condition! Amazing to see that one again!
Yeah, I almost gave it away a few times but some annoying guy kept telling me to sell it to him for $10 or $20 and I thought that was pretty lame, blocked him and decided to hang on to it.
I like how you keep the older quads around for comparisons, its important info, thanks. It's so easy to swap out tiny whoop motors if you dont like these ones and a set of 4 are usually cheap.
Thanks for watching!
Another great review and thanks for not hyping up the motor like all the shill channels will. You gave some really good perspective on the 0702 motor compared to the 0802. Keep up the good work!
I appreciate that!
There's some pretty dumb comments here. You can tell they didn't watch the video at all.
Eh, that's typical... what can anyone do about that???
Average IQ of an FPV pilot is probably around 50. Most don't know how to read or write!
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When Happymodel announced this BNF on Facebook, Angry Don was quite unhappy. I think he recommended to them that they use the Diamond F4 (moblite) FC. I'm not sure how he felt about the kV, but he wasn't happy about this FC because of the short flight time. I think sometimes HM picks and chooses which of his suggestions to use and which to ignore.
Yeah, I didn't see that. I did think the pairing seemed a bit odd so it needed an explanation from Angry Don. Thanks for the info.
@@AlbertKimTV i think Angry Don makes 14g whoop. and at 14g, you don't really need 0802 motors.
Great review and explanation of the difference between the old and new model. I didn't think the gram in savings would be enough to make up for the smaller higher kv motors. I think it would be interesting to build my own with 802 19,000kv motors. A good entry into elrs for me. Happy flying Albert. 🤓
Thanks for watching!
I'm doing one with 0802-19000 kv motors,75mm frameand 650mah.
@@lancelotlalla7561 I'm really happy that size and kv for my whoop. 👍🤓
@@jlarson42 I finally finished it and it fly awesome and around 5mins flight times.
Appreciate the way you go into detail about flight difference depending the batteries used and also the old vs new comparison. Really helps when making a purchase decision.
Do you think ELRS will become the new standard?
ELRS will be on everything soon. It's cheaper, has better range, and is easier to integrate than any other receivers out now. It's only a matter of time.
@@AlbertKimTV I bet Crossfire hates this
ELRS is already pretty damn close to that stage. It may not be on a ton of AIO boards, but the receivers themselves are already small enough that it's a non-issue for most if you're able to solder. The only thing holding ELRS back is the stock of RX and TX modules tbh.
I hate crossfire and anything from TBS. All the TBS fanboys can go suck my d...
I've had my custom Meteor65 built with 0603 to save weight and went to 0802 after. I noticed the same thing with the higher throttle being needed and set a custom curve to compensate but I also felt it was slightly less responsive to bursts of throttle. The smaller motors we're also more fragile, the top and side of the bell kept separating in harder crashes. My only experience with 070X motors was years ago with an Eachine and that thing was too current hungry for the batteries I had at the time.
Yep, same observations. I do think there is still a place for additional motor sizes for different types of flying. I imagine some races being under 2 minutes but more like drag races with all out speed. For that kind of race, the 0702 will beat the 0802 motor. However, I also think the 0702 motor needs to be on something lighter to take full advantage of the motor size. The point is, we need other sizes so we get more variation is racing styles. It's all the same right now. 🥱
Thanks for covering these motors albert. While they may have missed the mark with this setup, I'd sure be interested in seeing how 0702 would do with biblade 40mm props and at 19-20k kv on a moblite 7 type setup.
Yeah, I'm sure someone else will find a more optimal setup than this.
I think those motors would be interesting to see on an ultralight mob6 lite or similar…
Ahh the ole URUAV UR65! I still fly mine and the reason I keep flying it is I swapped out those motors for the 19000kv Mobula6 motors plus the 3 blade props also used on the Mobula6. It transformed the quad for the better in all areas especially the run time. If you have a UR65 doing nothing throw some Mob6 motors on it and have fun. Looking at the specs of the Mobula6 ELRS you would think they were catering towards a whoop version of long range with it's dipole vtx antenna and elrs + the 2 bladed props but then it grinds to a halt when I saw the KV and the size motors. Short flight times negate all the electronic advancements.
Yep, that is the most popular upgrade for the UR65. I kept mine totally stock so I can do comparisons as newer models come out. Amazing how much better the new models are compared to the older ones.
I didn’t know these motors would be such a noticeable difference over the previous model versions, interesting, I’ll keep this in mind when mine arrives by post :)
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i built a tiny whoop with 0703's over a year ago and it didn't fly as well as the 0802's either.nice video.
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Angry Don is not more anymore in happymodel team
www.happymodel.cn/index.php/pilots/
@@AlbertKimTV Not there anymore.
Argh. I wish they stuck with 802 and triblade. I think it would have been useful to a larger percentage of pilots.
For the ERLS setup the 0802 would make more people happy but it's easy to make that setup if you already have the mobula6 and just add in the AIO FC. These 0702 motors would have been better on an updated moblite6 instead.
@@DonJohnsonFPV Angry Don please share the optimum setup for the new 0702 motors
I just bought some of those gates. Should be here tomorrow. (Inflatable)
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Interesting observation of the difference between the two motors.
You're gonna see a lot of "expert" pilots on Facebook make claims it's the same as the 0802 and just lighter to sell on their affiliate links. Just you wait and see... 🤣
I have a feeling that once the chip shortage is over, ExpressLRS may replace SPI RXs on all AIOs.
@@661FPV I know, what I meant to say is that they will probably become the norm going forward.
It's good to have many options and see the tech progress forward.
Best thing i made recently was changing from crsf to ELRS. loving the range and the 500hz package rate on 2.4Ghz.
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Just bought the original mobula 6 and was going to add the small crossfire to it. Does it increase the range that much? Bought it more for the house anyway but just wanna know incase I do go out with it I'll have a idea of the range I'll have. And should I even worry about adding it?
Interesting. Lower KV might be the sweet spot for most but I’m sure they tested it and landed there. Someone like AyyyKayyy could rip it at that KV no doubt. I’d be curious how long the flight time is on Nitro Nectars.
I wasn't able to get the nitro nectars to plug in with this setup. It need a longer battery lead.
I think I would just swap out the AIO on my Mobula6 and keep the 0802 motors. I would then compare the bi-blades to the tri-blades to see which gives me the better performance.
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Awesome flying and review, Albert! 😃
About the older Mobula 6, do you think it has a full free UART to put a ELRS receiver in it? 🤔
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@@DonJohnsonFPV Sweet! Thank you! 🖖😊
Yes, it has the pads on the underside of the board. You should be able to see the silkscreening on the bottom.
Wow, that Runcam nano3 DVR looks soooo much better than the same one that comes with the Moblite6/7... strange O_o
...maybe mine is just a bit banged up
It's the DVR recorder. You use Fatshark, right?
@@AlbertKimTV Yeah I do, amazing the difference a dedicated DVR makes - cheers for the reply & all you do for the community
I dont really feel like it's an apples to apples comparison with those motors beings they have different props. Can you put a tri blade on the 0702 or is that too much amp draw? Also, is that green frame just a different color than the classic white or do you think it's more durable?
Three blades will draw too many amps for that motor. The frames seem the same in terms of durability.
So is it as much fun? The thing about the Mob6 is it's always fun, even if there are better quads available to fly. Is this new version as much fun, or have they traded fun for higher performance?
"fun" is totally subjective... what is fun for you isn't the same for everyone else.
I disagree the mob6 is "always fun"
Was wondering if you had tried different props yet. Do you think a 3 blade prop would restore some authority and familiar yaw characteristics?
Yeah, not worth it. Flight time went down to about 1 minute.
@@AlbertKimTV jeez!!! With 1s flight times being on the rise…bummer. All they really needed to do was add express Lrs to an already popular platform…
Its a tough decision to be honest and to tell the truth especially when the company profits(happymodel here) depends on such reviews! Honor your courage and honesty!
Why he doesn't get more supporters than shill channels is beyond belief. I guess people believe the lies and double down on resisting the truth. It's sad to see.
There are companies who don't work with my anymore because they only want shill reviews. RunCam is one of them.
@@AlbertKimTV That is super interesting to hear man. Wow.
@@frankcastillo8869 what are the shill channels to avoid watching?
@@racingsoul3133 Captain Drone
I want that green frame!
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@@AlbertKimTV OMG! Thank you so much! I looked on my own and couldn't find it! I hope it is an affiliate link, thanks again 😊
Hi, could you do a comparison or comments between Mobula6 ELRS and Meteor65 ELRS, Meteor75 ELRS in terms of flying time, VTX signals etc. for newbie to decide. Thanks.
Flying range is going to be the same for ELRS. I've gone out more than 500m on just 25mW output power. But that range is meaningless because you can't fly long enough to go out far enough to failsafe it because you are limited by battery life. This Mobula6 ELRS gets about 2-2.5 minutes as you saw in this video. I don't have the Meteor65 ELRS but I think that one will get more flight time and about 3-3.5 minutes. I got about that much with the Beta75. The BETAFPV whoops with ELRS now have 350mW VTXes in them. So more video power than the HM ones at 200mW but 200mW is still more than enough because you can't fly far enough away on the small battery.
How do you select the output VTX channel? Is it done through Beta Flight? TIA
Yes, Betaflight smart audio.
Hey Albert... the kid an I love our 2.4ghz elrs versions... however I am have having a heck of a time with the batteries. For some reason they are not charging all the way. Bought some new gnb 350mah ones and the same thing is happening. Do you think it could be the connectors on the batteries? was thinking of upgrading the connectors to the betafpv ones but not sure. We get at least 2 to 2.5 minutes which gives us a few laps around our house track but this is the only thing bugging me lol.
So the batteries are new but they don't charge up all the way? How much do they charge up to? 4.0v? Less? What charger are you using? Maybe that charger went bad?
@@AlbertKimTV on average 4.14-4.10 and on storage right around 3.79 with some going up to 7.81 The charger is the c240 duo
@@AlbertKimTV I think the battery checker I use opened up the connectors a little to much on a a few of the batteries. That could be it as well. Storage charged a rdq 1s 525mah with ph2 connector and it is right at 3.80 and I have had this battery sitting for over 8mo. You are right on the happy model batts as they are not doing well lol.
Again... this is why I said your video's are perfect.
These little quads are awesome none the less as we fly in stab mode and have a great time zipping around our house.
I'm so cheap. I cannot spend 4 bucks on tiny byblades. Prefere to cut 2 blades off the cheap hq quad blade props. I do like how much more zing the byblades have but not the grip.
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Is this HD zero why does the DVR look so good
No, it's analog... the DVR is pretty good on the SKY04x goggles...
@@AlbertKimTV LETS GOOOOO. I got my a pair of sky zones. What does everyone use fat shark looks so bad.
I can only watch and wow... 👍👍👍 because right now i just have jumper tlite playing with freeride simulator. I have to save so I can buy an FPV drone and googles. 😃✌
You can do it!
how do you bind the 915mhz model to happymodel es900tx?? i have both flashed but no clue how to bind
Info is here... www.expresslrs.org/1.0/hardware/spi-receivers/
Great info, thanks for the review. Have a lot of 1s 450-batteries lying around. Would that be a bad choice for this one in terms of weight and performance or is the 300mah the best alternative after all?
Too heavy, don't bother. The performance will not be good. The flight time will only increase by a little anyway.
Ok, I understand, 300 it is then...Thanks for the answers!
Angry Don I love that guys channel , He flies the shit of his quads. This channel is also awesome :)
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I just switched my Mob6 to a 75mm frame and 40mm. I guess it’s more like a Mob7 now hahaha ELRS is definitely the big selling point for this new drone, the price of ELRS is so appealing. I’ve got a Tango 2 and Mambo, but man now I kinda just want to use ELRS instead cause it’s so awesome how it’s integrating into FCs like this.
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Damn I want a green frame like that.
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Will this bind with jumper t-lite with ES24TX-lite module with 2.4 model on both drone and module?
Yes, as long as the firmware version is the same on both sides.
@@AlbertKimTV I’ve heard this got some prop wash issues that true? Would you rather this mobula6 w elrs or the crux35 4s w elrs ?? Or both… I know the crux35 is in the middle of whoop & normal sized drone
I like the quad and your videos
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which would you recommend the mobula6 elrs or mobeetle 1s elrs ?
what goggles do you use?
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2.4ghz elrs or 915mhz elrs
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I'd go with 2.4 GHz just because you have the option of the ceramic antenna for micros (especially with the HappyModel AIO board) and a higher refresh rate for freestyling/racing. Both 2.4 GHz and 915 MHz have "too much" range for most people, but 915 MHz should have more range. Wezley Varty got to 35 kilometers without fail-safing on 2.4 GHz @ 100mW & 250 Hz, was limited by his video link.
I have a sneaking suspicion that 0702 was chosen to make up for the weight increase from the ELRS FC. 0802 became popular because of the much better yaw authority compared to 0603. 0702 is a step backward
Read some of the other comments and you'll see the real reason.
@@AlbertKimTV Upon reviewing other comments, it sounds like they picked 0702 just because it's a new product they happen to have right now?
I do appreciate having more choices on the motor size, and 0702 will be great for lighter builds like Angry Don's 14g whoop. For this particular application, less yaw authority and less responsive throttle sound like a suboptimal choice, I guess with my flying style
@@kuzyatron 14g whoop sounds great. when and where can i get one ? thanks.
How does this compare to the Eachine TrashCan, that's my micro quad I fly.
That's a lot bigger and has more power. Trashcan is like race car compared to this being a motorcycle.
I think i should change to elrs
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Any idea why the RSSI in the configuration page under the arming flags would randomly drop out every half second or so? I’m using happymodel es24tx with a Radiomaster tx16s max.
There's a lot of possible reasons. One common one is that your transmitter is too close to the quad and it's going into failsafe briefly.
@@AlbertKimTV I will try again from a distance. Thank you for your response I appreciate it.
Kim, How to connect mobula 6 elrs 915hz to my radiomaster tx16s, I'm using happymodel es900TX.
Pain in the ass...hahaha...
Please help me...
Assuming you have a compatible module on the radio with the same firmware series, you can just follow the instructions on this web page... www.expresslrs.org/quick-start/binding/
these are all whoops I would love to have in my life!!! Have to love this channel
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Might have to build our own to get what we want, old vs new, but nice to see happymodel really committing to the ELRS
Hope they stop offering TBS options and only ELRS. F* those TBS fartboys!
I hope they continue to offer a variety of different part options for those of us who want to do custom builds and I hope they ignore all those haters who just hurt themselves by complaining every time something new comes out.
@@AlbertKimTV like that you really put in the time to figure out how to fly it.
is this the same FC that HappyModel sells for whoops. I upgraded my mob6 with their ELRS spi board. Had problems because ELRS on the HappyModel is really not supported in BetaFlight and you have to use a branch. The ELRS doesn't have WiFi, nor does BF 4.2.9 support passthru for ELRS. So, basically, I'm stuck until BF 4.3. Also, the vtx on the standalone board, I believe went up to 200 mw, while the original is 25 mw. Couldn't really make a complete circle around my house without vtx dropping out with 25 mw. Thanks for the update.
This is the same board I showed in the video. All the SPI based ELRS receivers are only supported via a Betaflight firmware update and that is different from the rest of the ecosystem. You have to use configurator 10.8.0 to setup the board properly. The VTX on this new board will go up to 200mW if you use the correct configurator. This just requires a little bit of a learning curve to figure out and you should expect new AIO FC boards with SPI based ELRS to operate the same way. They don't plan on changing this so it would be best to learn how it works so you can use it to it's max potential.
@@AlbertKimTV ty. yes, this is basically a no-brainer for HappyModel. I couldn't fly acro-mode prior to getting my Mob6, so it will always have a special place for me.
Do you mean that the original mobula6 vtx 25mw are better than the new board at 25mw?
@@betitaelfica2 if you are responding to me. This is def better than the original board, just a pain right now updating it. ELRS over SPI is relatively new and RELEASED software has yet to catch up.
Please test it with the NN Gold batteries or the GNB 1S 380mah (purple label). Or even the new Tattu 1S 300mAh w/ BT2.0. I'm curious if it does a little better on flight time with those batteries. In my experience, those red GNB 300's are just slightly less bad than the ones Happymodel includes with the quad.
Battery lead too short to use the NN lipos. I don't have the other ones you mentioned.
I didn’t buy this cause of the smaller motors
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estimated Delivery on Oct 13th-23rd,2021? Ordered from Makerfire
According to their Facebook post, they should have them in stock. I suspect they haven't updated their back-end system to show correct information on ordering. You'll get it sooner than that.
Was planning to buy this last aliexprs sale as I thought it would have more flight time. And I can use the FC for a LR 1s build.. But the motor made me hesitate. Good there’s already a review of this model 👍🏼. Will skip this for now.
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Range flight?
Let's see... I can go about 300m in one minute then turn around to fly back for one minute then my battery is dead. 😎 Using ELRS on this little guy is not for long range but for the ultra-low latency link. On something else with more battery like, I've seen these little SMD antenna based setups go up to 3KM. If you need range, you need to get the ones with the standard antennas. Those go up to 30-40km in the right setup.
Another dumb question about range? Geez, what's the obsession over range?
I prefer the 0802 motors....
Most people do. It's good to see other options available for those who want something different.
Man, if only there were KNOWN Whoop experts out there that have tested almost every combo and could tell every single manufacturer EXACTLY what to build for almost any Whoop application...maybe someday we'll have those experts. ;)
I would absolutely hate a world where only a few people and their "expert" opinions limited my options and choices for parts and models. Just because something isn't the best for those few experts doesn't mean those things should not exist for people with different preferences. I hope all these companies will continue to make an even larger variety of parts and models despite the complaints of the "experts".
@@AlbertKimTV The problem isn't that there are different opinions and knowledge being applied the majority of time in Whoops and micros. The problem is that little knowledge and testing is applied to a lot of Whoop products and we almost get good products that would be a great base for a lot of diversity in the market.
You're confusing experts making niche products versus using those same experts to make base products that could be a lot of things from a simple BNF for a beginner to a niche product for the extremes.
Light and cheap
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You can use this tiny Whoop for Longrange😂
And your spotter can use a telescope 🔭
Not sure how far you can go in one minute...
@@AlbertKimTV maybe cliff diving? Gravity assist ftw 😉
This is not for long range. Racers will love the low latency on the control link though.
whoop and longrange is just stupid