11:48 Probably not intended, but if one could somehow manage to install a small fan there, it could probably boost the graphics card cooling quite a bit. It might even be a method to pursue in the future, along with a special channel leading to the front, it could greatly improve small cases, eliminating any graphics card cooling concerns. Either that, or they stop putting the damn PSU right underneath the GPU.
this and the AP201 by ASUS are my favorite recently released mATX cases by far, just imagine an all-black dual radiator custom loop with black soft tubing and quick disconnects 🤤
I just ordered the pop mini case in white for a non-gaming i5 12400 build without graphics card. It was between this case and the AP201, both similar price but in the end chose the pop mini because I like the clear glass panel and 3 ARGB fans that are included.
Only downside of AP201 is the vertical airflow that doesn't go well with cpu air coolers. It forces you to get AIO which is a considerable budget investment that could go to the gpu instead. That also might not be a case for budget builds despite its price point...
I think it's a tiny bit suboptimal (ironic, as you will see) that the lower front fan doesn't quite reach down to below the graphics card. Because that is probably where it is needed most. Those are the kinds of details one may need to pay extra attention to with a cramped space (unless one just doesn't care, of course).
I don't get the hate for optical drive bays nowadays. it's way better to have one and use it a couple of times a year than it is to get something on a disc and not have an optical drive to be able to use it. I buy special edition blu-rays and CDs that have more content on them than the equivalent streamable content so without a drive bay, I'd be missing out.
It’s outdated technology and is being phased out. Even some motherboard manufacturers are switching to USB thumb drives for their drivers. I have a portable optical drive for a just in case and haven’t used it. It’s all thumb drives and external hard drives in 2023. As far as the extra movie content, you don’t have a Blue-Ray player or a console?
Nice review Danny, as I'm watching this in 2024. But I must say, even now I still use and Optical Drive (many DVD's) ! Nice that you did an Air Cooled variant, most reviewers do AIO's (which I personally hate). So it would have been nice if you had done a server variant w/ optical drive, 3.5", and 2.5" drive installed.
Congrats and thank you Danny for another great review. If I were on the market for a successor to my 15-year old Antec case, I would buy this one. Keep up the great work, and I'll see you in the next one !
Just a note that the front panel is limited to 2x120mm fans or 1x140mm fan due to the smaller size. I'm looking for a possible matx case as an alternative if/when i need to transport my pc anywhere but the options seem to be limited. I like this case although I'd prefer if that compartment wasn't there at the bottom if it mean I could fit another 120mm fan in the front or 2x140mm fans. I'm also considering the Deepcool CH370 as an alternative although it's not as nearly as good for build quality. Ended up getting the Asus AP201, which is my favourite matx case. It's a completedly different form factor and I don't mind the power supply being located at the front.
Hey, Danny! Thanks so much for this video! It's great and has earned you a new subcriber! I'm putting together an upgrade list that's almost identical to what you've built here (I'm looking at the non-WiFi Mortar, 2-fan 3070 and smaller, 750W PSU). Is it essential to go to 1000W for this build?
I don't understand this attitude of removing possible expansion in desktop cases. This is like Apple laptops where they remove all kinds of old ports. One of the clear uses of 5.25" bay is for card readers which is certainly in wide use today. Another good use for this expansion is to add display. And I'm sure there are plenty more. But now that everyone is acting like Apple buyers, manufacturers have less reason to add such expansion feature.
Anyone know of any smallish matx cases with a handle? I travel a lot for work and I like to bring my pc with me and hook it up to my hotel room tv with an extra long hdmi cable. I got tired of lugging around my trusty Cooler Master Q300L, so I went looking for a more easily portable matx case. I ordered a Bitfenix Prodigy M, but the plastic handles were so incredibly uncomfortable that it was almost impressive. I returned it and wound up buying a Lian Li Tu150 instead, which meant I had to switch to an itx mb and a smaller psu. My new rig is much easier to travel with but I wish I hadn't needed to spend the extra money on compatibility. The closest thing I was able to find to a highly portable matx case was the SGPC K20, but I don't think they make it anymore, or maybe just not for the Western market or something. When I search for it now, all I find is the K29 and that doesn't have support for a discrete GPU.
They're pretty close. There is a 3.5% difference in clock speed, which results in 3.5% performance difference. Besides that no meaningful overclocking and limited RAM overclocking. Otherwise they're the same, except for the non-k coming with a cooler in the box. Hope this helps.
You’re right. Only 1x 140mm fan fits in the front. All you gotta do is swing over to Fractal’s website. They outline all the specs and what fits. I forget specifics from videos I made a week ago, let alone months ago 😂
If one turns on RGB (probably a bad idea), at least one should choose a white case. Otherwise the whole thing looks like a piece of garbage (like RGB tends to anyway, but especially mixed with black). However if one can make the light white, it could look relatively neat in black.
You deserve a like for showing me the most beautiful micro ATX case I've ever seen!
4k uhd drives are still relevant.
Standard blu ray, too.
I've got the mid-sized version of this case and it is amazing. Thinking about doing a build in the mini version for my mom.
Thanks for the review. Very helpful. I might pick one up.
how does the psu fit? Pop Mini Air specs says max. 150mm psu
11:48 Probably not intended, but if one could somehow manage to install a small fan there, it could probably boost the graphics card cooling quite a bit. It might even be a method to pursue in the future, along with a special channel leading to the front, it could greatly improve small cases, eliminating any graphics card cooling concerns.
Either that, or they stop putting the damn PSU right underneath the GPU.
12.06 that's a bit inconvenient considering my older Meshify C had dust filter pull ha dle from the front of the case.
this and the AP201 by ASUS are my favorite recently released mATX cases by far, just imagine an all-black dual radiator custom loop with black soft tubing and quick disconnects 🤤
I just ordered the pop mini case in white for a non-gaming i5 12400 build without graphics card. It was between this case and the AP201, both similar price but in the end chose the pop mini because I like the clear glass panel and 3 ARGB fans that are included.
Only downside of AP201 is the vertical airflow that doesn't go well with cpu air coolers. It forces you to get AIO which is a considerable budget investment that could go to the gpu instead. That also might not be a case for budget builds despite its price point...
I think it's a tiny bit suboptimal (ironic, as you will see) that the lower front fan doesn't quite reach down to below the graphics card. Because that is probably where it is needed most. Those are the kinds of details one may need to pay extra attention to with a cramped space (unless one just doesn't care, of course).
I don't get the hate for optical drive bays nowadays. it's way better to have one and use it a couple of times a year than it is to get something on a disc and not have an optical drive to be able to use it.
I buy special edition blu-rays and CDs that have more content on them than the equivalent streamable content so without a drive bay, I'd be missing out.
It’s outdated technology and is being phased out. Even some motherboard manufacturers are switching to USB thumb drives for their drivers. I have a portable optical drive for a just in case and haven’t used it. It’s all thumb drives and external hard drives in 2023. As far as the extra movie content, you don’t have a Blue-Ray player or a console?
agreed, the 5 1/4 bays is the reason I got the case. Plenty of other useful things to mount there as well even if you don't use an optical drive.
Nice review Danny, as I'm watching this in 2024.
But I must say, even now I still use and Optical Drive (many DVD's) !
Nice that you did an Air Cooled variant, most reviewers do AIO's (which I personally hate).
So it would have been nice if you had done a server variant w/ optical drive, 3.5", and 2.5" drive installed.
Can you remove the supports for ssd and insert an 18cm power supply? Thanks for the answer and the content!
How tall can the 2.5" SSD be while still fitting on that back-of-motherboard tray? Will it fit 15mm-tall drives?
Do you think a 160mm deep PSU would fit if I remove the 3.5 sleds completely and dont put them back on?
Yes. The sleds take up quite a lot of room. When I removed them, I gained tons of extra space
Was wondering the same thing great 😀
Okay thanks alot then. But one questions "deep" is the lenght? @@DannysTechChannel
I've got the Define Mini C, but I want the Pop Mini Air, my only problem is the glass side panel.
Hey could I also use a 160mm psu?
Congrats and thank you Danny for another great review. If I were on the market for a successor to my 15-year old Antec case, I would buy this one. Keep up the great work, and I'll see you in the next one !
Thanks for the positive feedback! I love hearing I’m helping people with their choices for builds
Love your content.
Max cooler 170mm.. You could put NH-D15 in it.
AIO and use software RGB please 😁
With using a fan heatsink for cpu, can I still put 2 120mm fans on top?
Do you think the RTX 4090 would fit vertically without blocking some liquid cooling like the Deepcool LT520?
Just a note that the front panel is limited to 2x120mm fans or 1x140mm fan due to the smaller size. I'm looking for a possible matx case as an alternative if/when i need to transport my pc anywhere but the options seem to be limited. I like this case although I'd prefer if that compartment wasn't there at the bottom if it mean I could fit another 120mm fan in the front or 2x140mm fans.
I'm also considering the Deepcool CH370 as an alternative although it's not as nearly as good for build quality.
Ended up getting the Asus AP201, which is my favourite matx case. It's a completedly different form factor and I don't mind the power supply being located at the front.
Why my case fans dont work?
They ve light but they dont return.what i do wrong i am desperate
Hey, Danny! Thanks so much for this video! It's great and has earned you a new subcriber!
I'm putting together an upgrade list that's almost identical to what you've built here (I'm looking at the non-WiFi Mortar, 2-fan 3070 and smaller, 750W PSU).
Is it essential to go to 1000W for this build?
No, not at all. 750w is plenty for a build like that. Thanks for joining the community!
I want this case for my secondary hand-me-down micrioatx PC. I love to keep an optical drive around
Informative stuff. Good luck with your channel.
Thanks so much!
Can you set the rgb to be one color?
As someone with a large collection of dvd movies, the disc drive is a big deal.
How are your temps for idle and gaming on the CPU in that case?
Micro ATX form factor is like the red headed step child.
I think this one turned out pretty good
I don't understand this attitude of removing possible expansion in desktop cases. This is like Apple laptops where they remove all kinds of old ports. One of the clear uses of 5.25" bay is for card readers which is certainly in wide use today. Another good use for this expansion is to add display. And I'm sure there are plenty more. But now that everyone is acting like Apple buyers, manufacturers have less reason to add such expansion feature.
plus there are still a lot of old school users who have Cd's and dvd's, personally i use my computer for everything so versatile is best
Let's not forget hot swap bays. Without them, you need to disassemble the whole case
Also, if I didn't want a 5.25 bay on my PC case, I would just buy a laptop. The point of a desktop is you have everything you need in one package
Given that this model has a "Design POP" I wish you would have showcased a model with a different internal color.
Anyone know of any smallish matx cases with a handle?
I travel a lot for work and I like to bring my pc with me and hook it up to my hotel room tv with an extra long hdmi cable. I got tired of lugging around my trusty Cooler Master Q300L, so I went looking for a more easily portable matx case. I ordered a Bitfenix Prodigy M, but the plastic handles were so incredibly uncomfortable that it was almost impressive. I returned it and wound up buying a Lian Li Tu150 instead, which meant I had to switch to an itx mb and a smaller psu. My new rig is much easier to travel with but I wish I hadn't needed to spend the extra money on compatibility. The closest thing I was able to find to a highly portable matx case was the SGPC K20, but I don't think they make it anymore, or maybe just not for the Western market or something. When I search for it now, all I find is the K29 and that doesn't have support for a discrete GPU.
Are they 4 pin fans?
Nope 3 pin
@@StayBlur Aw...
Can the fan light button be used as a reset switch?
No, it runs into a controller. I don’t think it’s the same header
I didn't know Mark Strong has a tech channel now....
Fractal Design Pop Nano? still not released i thnk so
I don’t think so no. I’d be very interested in seeing that option
Please, please create a video comparing the 13900 and 13900k. It makes so much sense to make that video but no one has made it yet.
They're pretty close. There is a 3.5% difference in clock speed, which results in 3.5% performance difference. Besides that no meaningful overclocking and limited RAM overclocking. Otherwise they're the same, except for the non-k coming with a cooler in the box. Hope this helps.
@@dotms5195 Thanks!
There are still people who use HDD specially high capacity ones
I’m one of them. 🤓
7:16 your camera captured soooomething...
In my opinion not ginving you the USBC cable is a real d*ck move.
But the case seems great other than that
3:40 1x140mm fans. not 2.
AIO version, please!
🤔 Thanks for the video idea!
is it possible to install a 280 aio cooler in front?
No
@@DannysTechChannel Which also means you can only install 1 140mm fan in the front, in the video you said two!!
Not true. The reason a 280mm AIO won’t fit is the tank ends. 2x 140’s WILL fit
@@DannysTechChannel you are contradicting two different things you said in your video
You’re right. Only 1x 140mm fan fits in the front. All you gotta do is swing over to Fractal’s website. They outline all the specs and what fits. I forget specifics from videos I made a week ago, let alone months ago 😂
Current prices are over 110 dollars for this, making it not all that worth it.
I just found it for $89 on Newegg
If one turns on RGB (probably a bad idea), at least one should choose a white case. Otherwise the whole thing looks like a piece of garbage (like RGB tends to anyway, but especially mixed with black). However if one can make the light white, it could look relatively neat in black.
ur bald