All the lead consume when know about Peter Bonde will be like YAY more thing to consume while waiting for DaveSuperPowers to put out a video. consume consume consume!
Yes! Introvert functions can be with people, at least to those that have the same compatibility as their inner world, and extroverted functions can be done alone.
Them shitty questions like "would you rather go to a party or sit at home and ready a book" xD "are you the life of the party or sitting on the outer edge of the room" bla bla bla
The Consume-Sleep ExxPs are extroverts that can be rather introverted. Similarly, the Blast-Play IxxJ's are introverts that can be rather extroverted. There are others, of course, but these may be the most extreme mismatches between introversion/extraversion and dominant cognitive functions.
MM Ne/Fi CS/P(B) here, and in my experience, I would define myself as more of an introvert. When I’m around people, particularly people I like and am used to, I DO talk a lot and love interacting with others. If you saw me in an extroverted setting, you would never guess that I have an introverted side. But I do get drained sometimes, and when that happens, I do want to be alone to learn and process. I find that whenever I’m alone, I spend so much time reliving those same external conversations and interactions to reflect on what they teach me about myself and others. And here’s the thing- you know how sometimes I’ll be around people, but I’ll want to be alone? That NEVER happens to me the other way around. The moment I have my own space, I willingly and completely forget that people exist. I’m not one to reach out to my friends, or try to contact other people, or ask others to hang out. I can’t remember the last time I asked a friend to hang out with me, actually... I don’t exaggerate when I say it was probably years ago. It’s gotten to the point that I will be conflicted, if not absolutely livid, when someone spontaneously asks/expects me to use a free day to spend time with them. The one thing I am excessively selfish about is my time alone. Alone time is bliss; it gives me time to think and to dream and to learn and to work on all of my own projects that I promise myself I’ll finish someday. And people are wonderful too... but sometimes more wonderful when thought about from far away.
"Introverted" Consume-Sleep ENFP here (then Play, then Blast last... that first graphic at 0:43 is just like me). I'm not an extreme introvert by any means and enjoy being the center of attention, but studying everything is my primary approach to life. Take in information (Consume) and process it (Sleep). Understanding something is way more important to me than doing or especially experiencing it. I feel comfortable in extroverted situations (ex. social) but they are a lower priority and I don't invest as much of my time in them as many extroverts.
Timothy A. Miller i relate to this so much as an enfp with the same animals. My main approach not life is to go out and do/understand things (Consume) and then i spend time mulling them over seeing what i can learn form that experience (Sleep). I actually spend a lot of time brooding which made me think for ages that I wasn’t enfp
Compared to other ENFPs I know (I think one is Play-Blast and another Consume-Play), I'm more focused and spend a lot more time analyzing the information I bring in. I often will find myself pouring over data in a spreadsheet for hours, doing careful video editing, or some other task involving hours of rather mindless work in pursuit of a prized bit of information. Other ENFPs I've met have no tolerance for such projects. I am also much more able to stay calm and efficient while performing delicate, detail-oriented work. I think these distinctives are due to have Sleep as my second Animal. Conversely, I can do Play tasks (high energy level, solving things in the moment) and I can even enjoy them for maybe a half hour, but after that I find them irritating. The Play-Blast ENFP I know can hardly sit still. He's always rushing off to do some kind of physical labor or seeking some project to work on. I enjoy those things as sort of a wild card, a change-of-pace. Every now-and-then, I'll enter what feels like a high energy "get stuff done" mode. It feels great working hard, taking charge, directing others -- I almost tell myself "See, I'm good at this!" -- but it's short-lived. I tire of it rather quickly and I feel like a bull in a china shop the whole time too. As for Blast, I hate that stuff. Simple repetitive tasks, rote memorization, or reciting a speech word-for-word are things I don't want to even try. Mundane repeated tasks like cleaning the house, mowing the lawn, or keeping up with car repairs are doable but disappointing. I like permanent solutions, not ongoing maintenance. Another major aspect of Blast is simplifying observations into a small, easy-to-explain insight and then communicating it clearly and concisely. This reply here is evidence that I don't like doing that.
My word, you guys are like myself! ENFPs! Where do you go to see your stuff? I used 16personalities.com, took the test 8 times and always got ENFP, also the other one that is the big five and one other that also pointed to ENFP. It makes too much sense for how my life has gone for me not to be one though.
This is so scientifically good , i mean it lines up almost perfectly whit some pepole perception of the two concept while being logical and efficient , also finally it explains why IxxPs (like what i think i am ) can go on debating rampages in order to convince other pepole
so the little "e"s and "i"s are external=reality and internal=mind. the T N F S which are tools of the brain, we use two to processes reality and two to for inner processing
What is this practice referred to as? As far as understanding I followed Jordan Peterson and people were curious as to where he would be located. I ended up here and now I'm curious because I have identified with introversion extremely and been misunderstood for a lengthy amount of time. I'm 30 super aggresive borderline suicidal work myself to the bone type but also play and take massive risks. would understanding this allow me a psychological breakthough in order to understand my own temperment and stop letting a powerful side of me cloud my thoughts when I need to be more sensitive and caring about myself?
Interesting. So, by the 8 functions, I'm an INTP, but at the same time, I love being center of attention and generally can be a big talker. Where does that put me? Intp's are supposed to be the "most introverted" type, but that's just not me, if anything, should I even qualify as an introvert, then I'm the most extroverted type. Can someone walk me through this? Cause its been bothering me for a long time now
DaveSuperPowers let me add one thing here , the default for been introvert or extrovert to every personality depends on the first faction but that can change if the environment didn't provide what the first faction needs even for adult people , for example INTP , Ti Ne Si Fe , and we already know INTP extremely introverted , so if you put INTP in environment that 100% the opposite of Ti nature or sort of , you going to notice somethimg strange, that INTP start act and try to be cool guy in weird way ( exntrovert behave ) , this happen to every person that live in opposite environment to his/her nature , sure after they develop the first 2 factions , same for energetic personalities ENTP-ENFP-ESFP , you can see them become very introvert when they live in environment that opposite to their dom faction , the one they absorbs energy from it.
Sitting alone in your room watching OPS UA-cam videos is still extroversion because you're reacting to an external medium. External mediums aren't always people. Introversion is to turn inward, self-reflecting/introspecting. Not an external reaction. Subjective vs objective aside, another way to put it is proactive vs reactive.
In the list of types he ranks all the Function combinations as they would be according to the Big 5 extraversion trait - with FiNi (ISFP) being the most introverted and TeSe (ENTJ) bring the most extraverted. There are some SeFi and SeTi combinations that are on the "introverted" side of this chart. Therefore they would be "introverted" in Big 5 but "extraverted" in MBTI (since they're ESFP and ESTP). Similarly I would think there are "extraverted" INFJs and INTJs that use "blast" as their primary thing. (E.g. ones that like to do speeches). They are considered to be extraverts in Big 5 (if they are NiFe or NiTe, not NiTi or NiFi)
This may sound like a dumb question: As an INTJ, I share the same functions with an ENTJ and ESFP, just in a different order. I've formed long lasting friendships with other INTJs (all but one who had a chip on her shoulder about the world), every known ENTJ I've come across, but every ESFP I've come across has been more of a flash in the pan friendship. Why is that? FYI, I know ISFPs share the same functions too, but I don't know if I've met someone who I know for a fact is an ISFP.
Mareritt I think I probably has to do more with different tastes & maturity rather than personality typing, since personality types are just preferences in taking in information (perceiving) & reacting to them (judging).
I'm sure the Introvert/Extravert spectrum has something to do with your brainstem? I've forgotten the details, but extraverts generally need more stimulation than introverts to feel satisfied. Introverts, by contrast, are easily overstimulated by too much. Extraverts fall asleep if not stimulated enough. Introverts get headaches if stimulated too much.
I've never gotten a headache spending all day in pure extroverted land. I usually just feel really drained/tired and become REALLY good at slipping away without anyone noticing for a long time.
As an ENFP, sounds like BS because I'm an Extrovert and I need stimulation that can only come from new experiences... especially people experiences... but I also need chunks of processing time in between. I'm easily overstimulated in either mode but especially when I'm processing. I like people but much prefer 1 on 1 or small group time to a party or crowd. I'm just thinking you might have a tough time explaining my brain stem. 😄
3:20 ... they don't have to have the tribe right in their f*ckin' face all day long 😂🤣
Damn soap opera parties :P
All the lead consume when know about Peter Bonde will be like
YAY more thing to consume while waiting for DaveSuperPowers to put out a video. consume consume consume!
Good explanation. I've tried to explain this stuff for years, especially to those who think Introverted = shyx and extraverted = cool.
Great! You are hillarious. I burned my day binge watching while in between dragging out my demon Se to pay bills and get housework done. Damn you.
Yes! Introvert functions can be with people, at least to those that have the same compatibility as their inner world, and extroverted functions can be done alone.
Them shitty questions like "would you rather go to a party or sit at home and ready a book" xD "are you the life of the party or sitting on the outer edge of the room" bla bla bla
The Consume-Sleep ExxPs are extroverts that can be rather introverted. Similarly, the Blast-Play IxxJ's are introverts that can be rather extroverted. There are others, of course, but these may be the most extreme mismatches between introversion/extraversion and dominant cognitive functions.
I assume it's a consume-sleep ENFP and blast-play ISTJ that are the most extreme in this regard? (Haven't got a copy of the chart in front of me atm)
as a consume-sleep/blast ENFP I can tell you all of my family and my 2 friends will say to you that I'm introverted rather than extroerted
MM Ne/Fi CS/P(B) here, and in my experience, I would define myself as more of an introvert. When I’m around people, particularly people I like and am used to, I DO talk a lot and love interacting with others. If you saw me in an extroverted setting, you would never guess that I have an introverted side. But I do get drained sometimes, and when that happens, I do want to be alone to learn and process. I find that whenever I’m alone, I spend so much time reliving those same external conversations and interactions to reflect on what they teach me about myself and others. And here’s the thing- you know how sometimes I’ll be around people, but I’ll want to be alone? That NEVER happens to me the other way around. The moment I have my own space, I willingly and completely forget that people exist. I’m not one to reach out to my friends, or try to contact other people, or ask others to hang out. I can’t remember the last time I asked a friend to hang out with me, actually... I don’t exaggerate when I say it was probably years ago. It’s gotten to the point that I will be conflicted, if not absolutely livid, when someone spontaneously asks/expects me to use a free day to spend time with them. The one thing I am excessively selfish about is my time alone. Alone time is bliss; it gives me time to think and to dream and to learn and to work on all of my own projects that I promise myself I’ll finish someday. And people are wonderful too... but sometimes more wonderful when thought about from far away.
I can relate 😅 great breakdown guys
Yoooo my type is in the thumbnail! I feel special 😂🤩
"Introverted" Consume-Sleep ENFP here (then Play, then Blast last... that first graphic at 0:43 is just like me). I'm not an extreme introvert by any means and enjoy being the center of attention, but studying everything is my primary approach to life. Take in information (Consume) and process it (Sleep). Understanding something is way more important to me than doing or especially experiencing it. I feel comfortable in extroverted situations (ex. social) but they are a lower priority and I don't invest as much of my time in them as many extroverts.
Timothy A. Miller i relate to this so much as an enfp with the same animals. My main approach not life is to go out and do/understand things (Consume) and then i spend time mulling them over seeing what i can learn form that experience (Sleep). I actually spend a lot of time brooding which made me think for ages that I wasn’t enfp
Compared to other ENFPs I know (I think one is Play-Blast and another Consume-Play), I'm more focused and spend a lot more time analyzing the information I bring in. I often will find myself pouring over data in a spreadsheet for hours, doing careful video editing, or some other task involving hours of rather mindless work in pursuit of a prized bit of information. Other ENFPs I've met have no tolerance for such projects. I am also much more able to stay calm and efficient while performing delicate, detail-oriented work. I think these distinctives are due to have Sleep as my second Animal.
Conversely, I can do Play tasks (high energy level, solving things in the moment) and I can even enjoy them for maybe a half hour, but after that I find them irritating. The Play-Blast ENFP I know can hardly sit still. He's always rushing off to do some kind of physical labor or seeking some project to work on. I enjoy those things as sort of a wild card, a change-of-pace. Every now-and-then, I'll enter what feels like a high energy "get stuff done" mode. It feels great working hard, taking charge, directing others -- I almost tell myself "See, I'm good at this!" -- but it's short-lived. I tire of it rather quickly and I feel like a bull in a china shop the whole time too.
As for Blast, I hate that stuff. Simple repetitive tasks, rote memorization, or reciting a speech word-for-word are things I don't want to even try. Mundane repeated tasks like cleaning the house, mowing the lawn, or keeping up with car repairs are doable but disappointing. I like permanent solutions, not ongoing maintenance. Another major aspect of Blast is simplifying observations into a small, easy-to-explain insight and then communicating it clearly and concisely. This reply here is evidence that I don't like doing that.
Hey, that's my type too! ENFP FF-CSPB.
My word, you guys are like myself! ENFPs! Where do you go to see your stuff? I used 16personalities.com, took the test 8 times and always got ENFP, also the other one that is the big five and one other that also pointed to ENFP. It makes too much sense for how my life has gone for me not to be one though.
I’m sorry, but my soap opera party is LIT
This is so scientifically good , i mean it lines up almost perfectly whit some pepole perception of the two concept while being logical and efficient , also finally it explains why IxxPs (like what i think i am ) can go on debating rampages in order to convince other pepole
Davide Garuti
As an ISFP, I agree! :D But yes, if I notice irrelevant replies in those debates, I may just leave from the debate.
Totally. IxxPs, particularly INxPs can come out of their normal chilled state and rant like a champion!
so the little "e"s and "i"s are external=reality and internal=mind. the T N F S which are tools of the brain, we use two to processes reality and two to for inner processing
Looks like he deleted all his videos :(
Yeah I was about to check them out :((
What is this practice referred to as? As far as understanding I followed Jordan Peterson and people were curious as to where he would be located. I ended up here and now I'm curious because I have identified with introversion extremely and been misunderstood for a lengthy amount of time. I'm 30 super aggresive borderline suicidal work myself to the bone type but also play and take massive risks. would understanding this allow me a psychological breakthough in order to understand my own temperment and stop letting a powerful side of me cloud my thoughts when I need to be more sensitive and caring about myself?
Great video! Is Peter’s video still available? The link says that it is private.
Can't seem to find that Peter Bonde channel though
I think dave is definitely an IJ.....just look at the way he organizes content on personality typology ;)
Abe lin
He's an INTJ, he's said it in previous videos. Why his channel's logo shows INTP symbol though, that's a mystery.
Nachiket Pargaonkar Because they type Carl Jung as an INTP.
Interesting. So, by the 8 functions, I'm an INTP, but at the same time, I love being center of attention and generally can be a big talker. Where does that put me?
Intp's are supposed to be the "most introverted" type, but that's just not me, if anything, should I even qualify as an introvert, then I'm the most extroverted type. Can someone walk me through this? Cause its been bothering me for a long time now
what happened to peter's videos and channel? Can't reach it.
This reminded me of that Eddie Murphy (Raw) bit on "shyness" & dating.
Good stuff.
Meaning, this video *&* the bit.
Thanks 👍😎
Peter's video is now private :(
DaveSuperPowers let me add one thing here , the default for been introvert or extrovert to every personality depends on the first faction but that can change if the environment didn't provide what the first faction needs even for adult people , for example INTP , Ti Ne Si Fe , and we already know INTP extremely introverted , so if you put INTP in environment that 100% the opposite of Ti nature or sort of , you going to notice somethimg strange, that INTP start act and try to be cool guy in weird way ( exntrovert behave ) , this happen to every person that live in opposite environment to his/her nature , sure after they develop the first 2 factions , same for energetic personalities ENTP-ENFP-ESFP , you can see them become very introvert when they live in environment that opposite to their dom faction , the one they absorbs energy from it.
Sitting alone in your room watching OPS UA-cam videos is still extroversion because you're reacting to an external medium. External mediums aren't always people. Introversion is to turn inward, self-reflecting/introspecting. Not an external reaction. Subjective vs objective aside, another way to put it is proactive vs reactive.
Great video :)
Looks like Peter typed himself Ne/Fi. DaveSuperPowers, do you agree?
Am I the only one who, according to classic MBTI, is an ISTJ, but has TeNiSeFi functions?
An ISTJ cant have Ni
Pete's channel is set to private, why ?
So why does extraversion correlate with trait extraversion in the big 5? FFM isn't about cognitive function it's purely behavior.
In the list of types he ranks all the Function combinations as they would be according to the Big 5 extraversion trait - with FiNi (ISFP) being the most introverted and TeSe (ENTJ) bring the most extraverted. There are some SeFi and SeTi combinations that are on the "introverted" side of this chart. Therefore they would be "introverted" in Big 5 but "extraverted" in MBTI (since they're ESFP and ESTP). Similarly I would think there are "extraverted" INFJs and INTJs that use "blast" as their primary thing. (E.g. ones that like to do speeches). They are considered to be extraverts in Big 5 (if they are NiFe or NiTe, not NiTi or NiFi)
Where's Peter's video
This may sound like a dumb question: As an INTJ, I share the same functions with an ENTJ and ESFP, just in a different order. I've formed long lasting friendships with other INTJs (all but one who had a chip on her shoulder about the world), every known ENTJ I've come across, but every ESFP I've come across has been more of a flash in the pan friendship. Why is that?
FYI, I know ISFPs share the same functions too, but I don't know if I've met someone who I know for a fact is an ISFP.
Mareritt
I think I probably has to do more with different tastes & maturity rather than personality typing, since personality types are just preferences in taking in information (perceiving) & reacting to them (judging).
You might be right. I just started to notice a pattern and wondered if there was something to what I was seeing.
internal functions are way more objective then external ones, not the other way around.
@doschirak_drohne go watch cs joseph and learn the actual definitions of functions
Video is private.
I'm sure the Introvert/Extravert spectrum has something to do with your brainstem? I've forgotten the details, but extraverts generally need more stimulation than introverts to feel satisfied. Introverts, by contrast, are easily overstimulated by too much. Extraverts fall asleep if not stimulated enough. Introverts get headaches if stimulated too much.
I've never gotten a headache spending all day in pure extroverted land. I usually just feel really drained/tired and become REALLY good at slipping away without anyone noticing for a long time.
As an ENFP, sounds like BS because I'm an Extrovert and I need stimulation that can only come from new experiences... especially people experiences... but I also need chunks of processing time in between. I'm easily overstimulated in either mode but especially when I'm processing. I like people but much prefer 1 on 1 or small group time to a party or crowd. I'm just thinking you might have a tough time explaining my brain stem. 😄
Jeremy Christmas Yeah. Have you tracked your animals though? I'm an introverted ENTP for example.
An extrovert who can spend days alone and really only feels comfortable when there's no one around? That would be a broken extrovert if so.
HitomiAyumu naw, my apartments won't allow me to have any. 😕
The first hhhh
damn you beat me
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