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Not feeling confident you can handle a bike? Let me ease your worries. This is a video on how I manage standard height sport bikes, and a general overview of what difficulties to overcome as a short motorcycle rider, men or women. This video also shows what is one of the best beginner motorcycle on the market. The 2017 Kawasaki Z650!
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Having a habit for left foot down right foot brake is great because you don't really have to cover your front brake much and you can take off of hills like it's flat when you are holding down the rear brake just enough that it doesn't go backwards. I also find the shorty levers at a setting of 3 is good. Having it all the way out makes it hard to grip and having it too close makes me not feel the friction zone as good on take off. I'm 5'275 w/o shoes. '05 R6.
thanks for sharing this video,it helped me choose and decide..im getting a 2011 honda cbr600 rr,im 5'5"
Thank God. The moment you said "I'm 5'3" " made me so happy coz I'm exactly the same height as you.
Daniel Ubanan yay I'm 5'4
measure your inseam. I'm a cm shorter than 5.5 and my inseam is a cm lesser than 28 :(
Haa same
I am 5 7
depends.... also depending if you have a equal leg and torso lenght... some people have longer torsos... but can be the same height.
I'm 5'9. But no leg - only 28" so I fit this problem too :). Doesn't matter how tall you are. It's the leg length that matters.
I thought you meant you were missing a leg at first
Will M that’s how Michael Phelps is. He’s very tall but has short legs.
Roman Jefferson www.google.com/search?q=leg+length+comparison+stipe+miocic+jose+aldo&source=lmns&bih=722&biw=414&prmd=ivn&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS591US591&hl=en-US&ved=2ahUKEwib9sfp7fzmAhUBna0KHVrhCyEQ_AUoAHoECAAQAw#imgrc=CAjFuC2eMorTpM:
True, I’m 5’7 with 30 “. I still Feel like I got stubby legs 😢
Holy lord that must feel painful.. I'm 5'3 with 30"
I'm 5'1 and this video has help me a ton!! Thank you
yikes
same i blame my genes
omg
Same here. But im white i dont know why im not a black. My father is afro american (black), mother is too. But im white. I dont know why
5'5? Can ride those big bikes?
Im 192cm (6'3 - 6'4) and just to try put myself into position of short riders, i drove a bike few years ago onto a ramp to simulate extreme "tippitoes" (both feet barely touching floor). It is not pleasant feeling in Garage. And roads are not that perfect, rain, gravel, oil, bumps, pot holes.... Wow, i see how that can be a challange and something to think about and be aware before stoping, and i take it for granted because i can more than flatfoot with both feet. Sorry for bad English :)
I’m 4’10” with an inseam of 26”.
If I can ride a slammed Ninja 300 that has a seat height of 28”, whoever is reading this comment and doubting yourself, YOU CAN RIDE!!!
I’m so short I can only tip toe on one side, and I can’t reach the kick stand when I’m sitting on the bike. So to take off I have to kick the kick stand up, then hop on the bike to take off. Vice versa if I have to stop and park the bike. Gotta tell you it’s still scary sometimes, but practice makes progress😊
Update: It’s been 3 years since I left this initial comment. The Ninja was raised back to stock height for more ground clearance, since I was planing to track it more. Due to short legs, I have to rip all the foam off the seat for me to reach the ground, and the seat height for that set up is 28.75”. I also have a R3, it’s at stock height and I left about 1” of foam on the seat, and surprisingly the seat height is also at 28.75”.
I'm 4'9
I'm 4'6 do you think I can ride what bike do you suggest if you have any thank you for your comment you gave me so much hope ❤
@@Annie-uq3xi Height is a factor but inseam is the main determining factor. To find out what’s your inseam, go measure from your crotch to the floor when you’re standing straight. Mine is 26”, if yours is about the same, then you can surely ride beginner sport bikes (example: Kawasaki Ninja 300, Kawasaki Ninja 400, Yamaha R3, Honda CBR300R, Suzuki GSX 250R, etc). I will say that some lowering on the sport bikes will need to be done for my inseam to ride, either mechanically lowering it front and back, shaving the seat, or both together. As for recommendations, it really depends what type of bikes are you interested in to begin with, there are sport bikes, naked bikes, cruisers, Supermoto, dual sports, dirt, touring, etc. I’m only familiar with sport bikes, which is why all the examples I listed above are only sport bikes. Sadly, sport bikes have relatively taller seat heights, like minimum 30.7” and up, whereas cruisers such as an Indian Scouts has a much shorter 25.6” seat height. So don’t confined yourself into 1 type of motorcycles, sit on different bikes and see which one makes you feel the most comfortable and confident!😊
@@daisyw23 thank you so much for your expertise that really helped allot you are SMART and know at much about them thank you so so much for taking you time to send that to me I really really appreciate it 💓
@@daisyw23Ah I found again here while searching for bikes for short height people. I really wanna ask you, I have 26.5 inches of inseam. And I really liked cruiser bike Jawa 42 2.1 (idk if you know about it) with seat height of 765mm ( when converted into inches it's 30 inch cruiser bike). What do you think? I'm worried thinking about its 30 inch seat height. In my country, we don't get bikes below 700mm seat height like honda rebel 500. It's really hard for me.
Thank you!!! I’m 5’4” and just about to start riding an SV650 with 30.5-31” seat. I’m super happy and less worried now, seeing you sit on the second bike and be comfortable.
Inspirational video for short riders like me to pursue their dream bikes. Always wanted to have an R6, worried about my height but you just boosted my confidence. Thanks a lot man. Keep up the good work.
I had a 1978 Honda CX500 years ago and my inseam is only 28". When ever I stopped the bike where there was a low spot in the road I was in danger of losing the bike and tipping it. I rode it for quite awhile anyway, but eventually gave it to my son who is 6'-6" tall and has a 34" inseam. He did quite well with the bike. Now my grandson has the bike. It's nice to know that there are other people out there that have mastered those tall bikes. Thanks for sharing your techniques with us. Great video.
Thanks for bringing some insight on this subject. As short guy myself, i always get intimidated by bigger bikes. Doesn't help much when the sales people point me to the smaller bikes in showrooms. But after watching your vid, i will definitely try out bigger bikes from now on!
Tremonte, I just want say Thank You for making this video. I will draw Inspirational, motivation and in time confidence to apply to my own ridding experience. To be honest I'm 5'4 and at one point it did discourage me to ride, but nonetheless I'm in the infancy stage of my MSF course. Thank you and God Bless also much love to your channel.
Yes, the MSF is a must-do. Too many folks on cell phones these days. You have to learn correctly and ride as if you are invisible. Car drivers are not looking for bikes (of either kind) and will not see you.
Same here fellas :)
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I'm 5'5" and have a 17' R6, I have no problems at all. I just shift my hips and weight around and your the strength in my arms for balancing. def possible for short people to ride bigger bikes!
I'm 5'5" and I'm considering getting an mt09 or r6 as a second bike, if you ever get to read this reply, thank you so much it's a great confidence boost.
@@DoomStarRequiem I'm 5'6" and I ride a FJ09. It's a bit tall for me but I can tiptoe it. There is a lowering link for both MT09 and FJ09.
I'm 5'4 will I able to ride r6?
Hey, just a question. Do you have to know how to drive a car before you drive a motorcycle?
@@kirank287 you have to learn to fly a F15 jet fighter. Just kidn you are fine with bicycle riding experience, if not first learn to balance a bicycle. You're welcome.
Thank you so very much. I'm 5'6" but my inseam is exactly 29 inches. So I definitely relate to you. Like you said and usually cycle dealers have a feel for what's good for your height. It's not what looks good. It's what feels good to you as person. If it fits. Then it's going to be fun to ride.
Exactly!
I'm 5'4 on an R6, and I dropped it on my first ride because the road was wavy and the wheels were on high points, and under me was a low point. I dropped it at a stop sign with people all around and cars behind me as I picked it back up. I haven't dropped it since but coming to every stop I worry with this in the back of my mind. I have only had it for 2 months, so I am hoping this fear will fade. I even considered selling it because I was so demoralized because this was my dream bike, and it is so hard for me to maneuver and feel confident on. But I love it and it is fun to ride, and I'm not going to let my height crush my dreams.
As a short guy , thanks for the video
Hi, commented about a year ago on this vid, passed my test and have ended up with a late 2018 yamaha mt07, loving it.
the fact i saw a comment that your 5'3 and ride a bike like my dad has ( he will give it to me in future) and im 5'4 its the best thing in my life
Great advice; thanks. Especially the part on keeping the front wheel straight.
Thank God my dad taught me how to ride on dirt bikes as a kid. I'm only 5'6" but that knowledge was crucial it seems. Great video.
I just bought a z800 and I’m 5’3, and this did make me feel confident about jumping on that bike. Thanks, man.
Here's a good tip. When coming to a stop look for the divots created by car tires and aim to stop in the center of it. It lowers the bike in the road giving you a better footing when stopped.
I'm 5'5" and ride a CB1000R with a 32" seat height.
damn that z650 looks so small then.. im like 6'3 :D
actually im ttrying to find some info if z800 or z800e is worth buying over z650... (they can be nerfed for A2) .. my paranoia is that why they were discontinued.. flawed model ? Should i go with mt07 or 690R instead?
John Jacob I’m 5,6 is it hard for you to ride a bike like a gsxr 600
I think suzuki has the lowest seat height compared to honda and yamaha. You should be just fine
Haha thats awesome man! best of luck
I'm 5'4" and looking at a zx10r which has a little over 32" seat height. I'm on my tip toes only
Thank you for taking the time to make this video and sharing your experience.
2391jessie You're welcome!
I agree with you 100%!
Make sure you safety and do whatever you feel comfortable.
Fucking finally do I find a video about short riders on big sportbikes who is ACTUALLY short. Every video I seen about short riders they are still able to actually put two toes down which is not something that I as a rider cannot relate to when confronted with big bikes. To actually see someone in my situation where they absolutely can only put one foot on each side makes me feel less excluded and more confident of the possibility to handle such big bikes
Thank you thank you thank you so much for this vid. I always wondering if im too short for an R6 but you proved me wrong. Have a good one mate.
I love motorcycles always have but I'm maybe about 4,11 that's pretty damn small,sometimes it sucks to be super small. 😄
Are you still riding?
I'm 5'3" as well, we had a custom lowering kit made for my '03 Dyna Super Glide so that I could comfortably sit on the bike and have both feet on the ground.
Thanks Tremonte for all the tips you share and for taking the time to do the videos very helpful I really appreciate them 👍🏻👍🏻👌🏼👌🏼
franco chato you're welcome
Tremonte 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻I just subscribed 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼thanks again 🙏🏻
One of the best bike videos. Down to the earth reality at its excellence.
im 5'7 and seeing all you guys in the comments obviously makes it much easier for me to not have any negative thoughts,
on the downside i really wish everyone in here the best of experience!!! great video!!
Very nice video. Thanks! I'm planning to buy the z650 (waiting for it to be launched here in India). Your video's boosted my confidence about handling it. New sub! Thanks again
Im 5'3", and just bought that Kawasaki Z650 like yours. I love it.
I am 5’4” and this was really helpful for me to decide on what bike to get for me. I’m going for my motorcycle permit at the moment then the motorcycle lessons
I got a Corbin custom seat for my z650. Tremonte you would love it! I can ride all day with no pain in the rear, used to have pain after 2 hours. New seat is a little lower too.
Great video man! I'm 5' 11" but I still "tippy toe". I ride a Yamaha WR250R dual sport so obviously it stands taller versus sport bikes but it's really about just getting comfortable with it. Main thing is people need to keep trying. Don't give up! Subscribing! :)
Matt Bunch thanks! It is all about comfort and getting over the initial fear and stigma. Gotta relax for sure.
Hey Tremonte I just wanna say I love ur video man. U giving me the confidence as a short rider I am 5'3" riding a 2017cbr1000rr. All the technique giving work well for me..just wanna tnx man..
Good video. I’m anguishing over whether to get a BMW R1250 GSA or not. I’m 5’8” with a 30” inseam and I’m on top toes with a low seat. I can get a low suspension but I don’t want to give up the suspension travel. This has given me something to think about. Thank you.
I'm 1'1" and this helped me. 😂
What the.............
This is too much bro even a new born baby is like 1"7😂😂
Me too!
Hey there. Really good video. I'm 5.3 and I'm a beginner and it's helping me a lot. Thank you and keep it up and stay safe 🙏
Great video, thanks for the confidence.
Thank you! Im doing my license and you giving me hope :)) Im like 5"6 and my goal is a suzuki gsxr 750. I sat on one the other day and i can only tiptoe it with both feet. Think once i get one im gonna lower it an inch.. hope it doesnt affect seating once riding.
Thanks for the info and great video. I’m 5 ft 1” with 29” inseam and been riding cruisers for years. I’m now looking into adventure bikes and wondering what do you think of the BMW 1200 GS/GSA with factory low suspension? And may I know what your inseam is? Cheers and stay safe!
Solid presentation, factual, wise, and very helpful! I'm short. 5' 6" and have been using your techniques for years. Comes with experience. My experience says you are right on the money!
Bro thank you 🙏🏾 this was needed!
This is encouraging when I am only 5'3" with the same taste in bikes you have. Thanks.
I'M 5" had a Suzuki 651 savage. Perfect fit. Height was 27" loved it. A woman's bike, to be sure. Great in traffic, mountains, dont make them anymore. Oh yeah, was a cafe bike.
That r6 is looking good for 2006!
This is the kind of video ive been looking for! As a guy who is 5'5 140lbs I've never ridden any kind of motorcycle. But have been wanting to learn to ride for awhile now. But have always been concerned because of my height and weight. Wondering if I'd be able to handle a bike in general. (Of course nothing big) after seeing your video it gives me total confidence to get out there and learn to ride and find the right bike for me! THANK YOU! :)
Thanks for the video it's great to know I could possibly ride an r1
Thank you Sir, for opening a new window for short people like me, to look at the world on a big bike !
I'm looking into getting a Z650 because of the seat height. When I'm in my boots, it's easier to flatfoot than my Grom, which sounds odd. I think it has to do with foot peg location.
Great vid. At 5'4" I've had a Suzuki DRZ400, didn't bother lowering it, which was like getting on a horse, on my tippy toes nonetheless, but it's all about balance and your comfort level. All you need to do is ride a lot cause you love it, get use to the bike and gain that xp. I needed a faster bike for commuting so now I have a Yamaha FZ07 plus I don't do much dirt trailing nowadays. Happy riding!
I NEEDED THIS
take the MSF course, but do not take your 600 or bigger bike to the cource to take the cource. you will fail bc they are heavy. especially if you cant flat foot it. use the bike the cource offers bc they offer little 250s that are light and low the ground.
I'm 5'5 and sat in z650 today and love it so buying one when I get the money.
Hi thanks for the review and all the helpful info I've heard people say some r6 years are a bit lower and more narrow than other years would you happen to know what years those are?
Hi there, great video and also so nice to see some one of my height doing a video on short rider Technik's, usually it's some one of normal height telling you oh do this or that and has no idea of what its like to have to stop on a piece of road that has a massive camber or a dirty great hole right where you need to put your foot down. loved your video dude, keep up your great work.
Im a fellow short person and this video was really helpful.
We're the same height. Thank you for your tips. I'm looking to buy a CBR600RR and being short I'm always worried about having to lower the bike and make it fit better.
Very helpful video, definitely gave me more confidence
It’s so weird. In the Netherlands they teach you to stand on your right leg. That’s also how they examine you. If you stop on the left leg, it’s a fail. So different than how they teach it in the US
Just an advise that you might like and I did was lowered the bike and softened the suspension and it helped a lot.
I am a short man and it took a little getting used to but I ride a 03 Honda Sabre 1100cc with little problem. Had to lower it a hair so my feet are mostly on the ground but so far i'm loving it!
In the Netherlands we stop and put our right foot down in our courses and exams, I am 5'4 and I also use your technique :) Except hopping of I can put the kickstand down with that thin pin that is attached to the kickstand then you can hop off without worrying about the bike dropping. I drive a gsxr-750 and I think they are slightly a bit lower but I also want to keep the ride height original and so far riding with this technique is fine.
Great video! Thank you very thorough explanation! Cheers!!
I am 5ft 7in and I just bought a 2022 Yamaha YZR-R1M, and I have no issues whatsoever. Thanks for the video.
I remember watching this video when I was just thinking about getting a bike about 5 years ago. Im 5.4 and ride a Yamaha FZ6 with a seat hight of 31.3 inches. The first time I got on it it was intimidating because I can barely tippy toe it but now its my daily commuter, ride it in heavy south fl traffic no problem (~80 miles a day) My only regret is letting my fear of being short no letting me get on a bike a lot sooner.
I started on the Yamaha R3. Seat height is 779mm and at 5'4" lowering the forks by 5mm made at the confidence inspiration I needed. I now bought a NC750X and shaved some foam off the seat. That should help but my husband is convinced I might struggle. I will shared this video and prove I can do it since us short people need to always prove we can do it.
Great video. I'm barely 5'6 purchased a 04 gsxr 750. To begin riding this summer. Got it lowered 2 inches hope it goes well. Also looks like your also an electrician like myself.
I’m 5’ 4” and ride a klr650. Use same techniques as you do. Nice video!
Thank you so much for this video! Subscribed.
Thanks for the video, very useful and helpful.
Brilliant advice, many thanks 😎👍
Being 5'4" at only 135lbs, I find the R6 to be too tall for my tastes. Weird thing is, the R1 sits just a bit lower, and I can get both feet on the ground with that one. I can also do a Hayabusa, but I cannot do the ZX-14.
While the techniques here would make it possible for me to do the taller bikes, I shall chose the bikes that I can do without going to such measures.
Sadly, if I really wanted that R1, I would have to give up my 1700 Vulcan Nomad, and I really love taking off for a week at a time, and being able to haul sufficient luggage makes that a possibility.
Wise decision my friend. Go with what suits your taste and feels best. With a lot of open road around here, once the R6 is rolling, it's not an issue to handle it, but you definitely don't want to be in traffic. You fatigue super fast. Happy riding!
Best sportbike for me would be if someone squeezed a 650 twin into the 300 Ninja, and managed to keep the weight under 400lbs. Would be an insane tiny little thing.
And it is still heavier and bulkier than the 300 Ninja. I want tiny with a decent engine. If the can get the SV650 to be physically the size of the 300 Ninja, I will buy one tomorrow!
Biker Dash on some bikes, mechanics can actually set the suspension to the height and weight that suits you, because being stock they are meant for avg. height/weight which is a much stiffer ride and higher off the ground
And there are those of us who would need to have lowering links installed on a lot of bikes to get the bike low enough.
last option of short people, just lower your bike, and ride with caution, cause lowering a bike can affect the overall stability of the bike, atleast you wont fall when you stop
Lots of people have said it but this is awesome. As a female at 5'3" this rings so true. Funny enough my bike is an 06 Kawasaki z750s
@badkittyamy yamaha mt 07 or suzuki sv 650 is maybe possible or the tiger 900 gt low
Thanks for the video. I'm 5'7 but am a new rider. I've taken the motor course but that's about it. I'm thinking about getting the z650. What's your opinion on that. I'm getting it for pleasure riding mistly and of course to build my skill sets.
I share your sentiments of falling in love as soon as you sat on it. When I was looking for my first bike I sat on a z650 and knew it was great for me. I ended up buying a 390 duke since this is my first bike ever, but when I grow out of this I'll be looking on craigslist for z650s in white just like you have. Immense value, and it does many things well, but most importantly it's comfy since I like to ride around town all day on the weekends.
+Prog Pogs congrats on the new bike :)
Very cool bro!! What shoes you are wearing and jeans?
After 35 years of riding currently have a Honda 1100 shadow and a 2006 street Bob 1450 .I very really use the foot break, changing down covers the back weel and front breaks for the front weel 70 percent front and 30 rear is 5he recommended stoping
great video thx for the short people love! had the r6, zx6r as a 5'4 rider, looking for a comfortable city bike lower to the ground this time, gonna check out the kawi
Bales Tab you're welcome! Try not to fall in love with it too fast! Lol
I'm 8'11 and this helped me a ton
I'm 8'12
Good video. I'm 5 6 and 54 years old with a bad hip and back. And I can still ride about any bike I want. I have six bikes in a scooter. My most challenging bike to ride is probably my 2007 V-Strom because it's so tall. I get on this bike by putting my left foot on the left Peg and then as I'm taking off letting the clutch out I swing my right leg over the seat it's a little tricky but with a little practice it works really well. I have a difficult time getting off a bike without putting the kicks down down first I always put the kickstand down first.
Always great to develop riding skills. But you can always lower handle bars, lowering links, shave seat, taller riding boots, and learn to dodge potholes/speedbumps. Great video explaining the shorter person hip movement.
Absolutely correct, but that is not always an option on some bikes. Take the R6 for instance. Lowering the bars isn't an option, lowering links would moot the point of the upgraded suspension the bike was designed with, causing a massive change in cornering telemetry. When you compress the suspension on a supersport, you effectively limit the travel of the suspension, where dampening and rebound could cause too much feedback to the rider, and a result being loss of traction. I wouldn't do this to a track ready bike. On a cruiser or less sport inspired model, definitely an option.
my 09 r6 bars are dropped 2 inches.. soo
Rear brake doesn't really do that much as using engine braking. I think engine braking does more but it's using the clutch lever in reverse.
Love your video. Im 170 cm about 5.7 and i brought er6 n 2016 . Fits me perfect . I Sat on my dream bike the BMW SS 1000 RR it feelt a bike high and bike but for now im super pleased with my current bike. I will grow on it before a get a super bike i Greetings from Sweden
Mr Squirrel thanks for watching!
Great advice man I’m 5,3” as well. I have a 250 ninja and zx6r. The zx6r is just parked there because I’ve dropped it a couple of times.
Vulcan sorry to reply late. On the 250 I’m flat foot on the zx6r I’m on my tippy toes. In my suggestion I think you should get sliders as soon as you get it and lowering rinks
Really good vid, thanks.
Cool. Just making sure lol I’m 16 and 5’ 5” but my dads not letting me get a bike until I move out (currently making moves to get around that lol) so I hope I can grow a bit in the next couple years but it’s good to know I can still enjoy a good adventure bike no matter what
Thank you for your video, i am planning to get R6 would you please tell me your inseam length? it will be helpful....Thank you,.
5'4 here. Thank you!
Sidenote: better audio will elevate your videos ten fold
my tall ass brother laughed at me when he saw me watching this xD
He's a jerk. Might be a real nice guy, but in this case a jerk because he hasn't walked in your (small) shoes. :)
Do NOT let it interfere if you really want to ride.
Hi, we are the same. I’m 157cm, about 5ft 2 from Malaysia. Now I have f800r, GSXR750 L1, ZXR750 J2 & NSR150RR. The most difficult for me is ZXR since the bike is heavy with 220kg wet and the sit need me to open wide my leg. By practicing frequently build my confidence especially on how to get on the bike, launch it & manoeuvre in traffic jam same as this video.
Thank you so much for your video!
I'm 6'4 and feel great on my 2006 zx6r ;) but we just got my gf a 2017 r3 and she is 5'2 but we also got the bike dropped 2 inches since you can get them lowered up to 2 inches and she can now flat foot the bike it only cost $300
I'm 5'7" on the shorter side of average and I'm wondering if you can get slimmer seats to accommodate or if its a good idea to have the bike lowered like an inch. I want an R6 and have for over 15 years now and bc im a noob on a bike I dont have the confidence yet so flat footing would help me and I don't want to get like a 300 or 400 and have it for a yr and get resl board of it and lose a bunch of money when i want something bigger like a 600. Thanks love the video.
68 ride a ducati v4 also, height challenge.. Learned grip the tank with your knees. bend your elbows relax your hands.. with the elbows bent it relieves pain off your wrists..It helped me ..sweet video. Thank you ..
I'm 5'9 with 32 inseam so I an flat foot most sports bike and I still have issues with dropping due to tapping the brakes or stalling, this helps me since I think my problem is I tend to turn the bar to left when a stall or sudden brakes occur, only happened twice in four years but still hate doing parking lot maneuvers :D this video help me a bit and is encouraging..
Glad you found some use in the video. Indeed, too much front brake while turning or stopping at slow speed will cause you to lose balance. Using the rear brakes when slowly moving is the key to tight maneuvering.
I’m 5’ since a kid have always been on the back of my stepdads motorcycle, now I want to get my own… haven’t drive once….
Hi @Tremonte can you help me which 125's do you recommend me to buy. I am also a short guy just 5'3 🙈 So far one of my choices are Benelli TNT 125 and I would prefer it than Honda Grom 125. What else would you recommend?