Rockshox Pike, Lyrik, Yari...What's the Difference???
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
- Easily one of the most recognizable names in the mountain biking industry, Rockshox has seen tremendous success over the years due to the quality and affordability of their products. Their forks specifically, have become so popular that you are almost guaranteed to see a bike with them out on the trail. With multiple models, sizes, and fitments, picking the right one for your bike can be a bit confusing.
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In this comparison, we break down the primary differences between three of Rockshox's most popular models...the Pike, Lyrik, and Yari. Although they all look similar, each has their own unique characteristics that can be fine-tuned to fit your riding style. Follow along to see which is right for you!
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Thank you for finally explaining the difference between these three forks. I love my Yari.
Thanks for watching! And man Yari's rock!
I love my yari too
I love my yari too. It’s just so good for the price
I'm buying a new haibike and is the yari really good or do I have to upgrade it for a Lyrik ??? Some people tell really bad things about the yari 😳😳 I'm confused now
@@denniekruit2078 of your yari works fine then don’t,
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Even after 6yrs, still one of the best videos explaining the differences
Love the Pike. Just put a set on my NukeProof Scout XL...transformed it into a BEAST!
I was so impressed with my first ride ever on the pike rtc3 140mm that I immediately bought a second set for my Ragley!
Great info, as always. Much appreciated!
Had my forks delivered under 48 hours later. Love it!
Im rocking 170mm Yari on my Commencal Meta HT and its amazing. I do jumps, and downhill and perfectly match my hardtail so well.
Why am I here i have a Suntour 100mm
To gather more knowledge mate!
I have suntour xc 100mm😂😂😂
jizzy002 hahaha me too! 😂😂😂
@@marcgallant5270 I did...got $100 usd off my upgrade. Went with a raidon because it's adjustable from 80 to 120mm
Because you know you want these ones
*Watching comparison of rockshox Lyrik, yris, pike*
Me: crying in rigid fork 😭
I have a 150 yari on my Trail bike and i love it ! Easy to Service and rock solid ;D
Came from an old 32mm Revelation that was flexing like hell :D
Nice vid keep it up :D
Torque caps provide more stiffness than a 20mm axle. So rockshox opted to standardise the option of torque as opposed to 20mm axle 👌🏽
Loving my Yari
Im a lyrik user and it feels like a pike but i need a longer travel so i bought a lyrik 180mm
Thanks very much for the explanation on the video! I am planning on buying a FS bike and this video was very helpful! Cheers.
Thumbs-up for the Transition in the background. Still hammering on my '06 Dirtbag in 2018.
Guy just repeats himself a lot -
Missed opportunity to explain difference between Motion control and Charge dampener???
That & the fact that the yari can be upgraded later with lyric parts due to them both having the same chassis, might not be a cost effective way of getting a lyric but if you have spare cash later
Video was pretty much just babble.
@@Maddpadd exactly! 200€ is just too much to spend on a damper to make yari a lyrik. I'll leave my yari as it is. Btw, it works just fine on stock setup. I'm close to 100kg. Xc/enduro.
I had hoped to see more of an explination...then I go find that his classification is one way...the other way to consider is by damper type...the Pike being possibly more desirable than Yari however his explination makes the Yari sound better than a Pike...is it? confused and *newish to MTB (returning after 15 years...Judy etc)
@@Maddpadd well why did you listen to it to the end then.. SFTU and stop trashing others good work. I found it quite interesting.
@@ex-tractorfan ,Take some of your own advice "SFTU and stop trashing others"
Saw this Video after I bought my Pike, but a super sick video anyways! You guys rock!
Even more excited for my new ride now. 160mm lyrik, big change from 90mm lefty.
I got a pike and shredding it in every downhill and enduro trails with no problem 😎
me too mate! im a light rider so it saves weight because i dont need a stiff chassis
Really like your video shared with my friends
Im 185lbs lyrik probably best for my weight & height 6'5"
I have an older Lyrik because of the 20mm axle, wrong move for Rockshox's. I think fox really did it better when they give you an option of 15 and 20mm axle on their 36's.
Just to add there are Yaris that come with less travel but they are typically OEM specced 29 plus forks.
I have a Zoom 50mm
lmao I went to their site and their "downhill" forks are dual crown 130 mm forks. lmao
Woah that's some serious dh shit
they rust after 1 ride.... not worth using even if its free
Me too!! But my is 55mm, doesn't absorb a shit and it make things rougher than they are. It has rusted stanchions and oil all over them.
Well it comes to the price aswell I've got lyrics on my whyte G 160 RS and yea thought about there flagship pikes and settled for the lyrics and maaaaaan I'm soooooo happy with them,,, beautiful and saved yea loads,,,,
I’ve learned a lot from your channel...I subscribed.
Thank you very much for the sub! Anything specific you want us to cover?
Thank you for explaining this to me! Just got a Ns snabb with a Yari and wanted to know what the heck the difference was.
Great stuff..... I would've loved to see the new Revelation in the mix too. Is that a 2018 Transition Smuggler behind you?
You're right! Should have included the Revelation... next time... And yep that is a 2018 Smuggler. That is the frame before we painted it, just posted the video of that here ua-cam.com/video/w4HwXjKfTec/v-deo.html&t=
The new 35mm Revelation is to Pike what Yari is to Lyrik right? Motion Control instead of Charger 2 damper.
Yep!
Bought a 2021 marlin 5 and I am sooo impressed with the bike and now want to upgrade the front end. Will this fit? Thanks
You will need to change the front wheel. This uses the boost 110ml axel. You are on 9mmQR. Pike or revelation are better for your style of bike. 130ml travel is probably max on a marlin. But you can put anything you want on there, your bike bro
So what’s the difference in ride performance? How do they differ in adjustability?
If I have a Yari as standard on my bike is there any point changing to a Lyrik or Pike?
Personally the Yari is a great fork but upgrading is not crucial, at the same time there are advantages to the Lyrik. It depends on what frame and your riding style to. The big difference between the Yari and let's say the Pike is the travel as well as the cartridge in each of those forks. A bare-bones break down of the two is this. The Yari can be extended travel wise about 20mm more than the Pike and the damper isn't as "refined" as the Charger 2 in the Pike. I'd look at the Yari more as a big brute park style fork vs the Pike as maybe a little lighter more elite all-around fork. The Lyrik and Yari will have a bit of a weight penalty but typically the type of long travel bike those usually go on, it shouldn't matter much. Thanks for the inquiry and hopefully that helped!
I feel like you guys should do an update video... SInce then all these forks have got upgraded and now the Yari and the Pike and literally identical, apart from the damper... Motion control vs Charger 2.1, and all you really get from that is high speed compression adjust, which I dont know if it justify the more expensive price tag on the Pike...
This was super super informative, would it be possible to have you go over the differences between the Manitou forks? thank you very much!!!!
Thanks for the suggestion! We will consider the Manitou video for sure.
I used to work right next to Manitou in Santa Clarita and they gave me my first set of MTB bars, so when I got back into mountain biking I looked at their forks first. I'm having a hard time figuring out all of their different configurations, it's possibly more confusing than any other company I've looked at!
I blew out the damper on my Revelation. The bike shop sent it back for repairs and Rockshox sent it back with charger damper.. My Revelation is a Pike now😀
Knowing the differences was easy in the 90s. There was mainly Quadra and Judy. Judy was better than Quadra for reasons that were easily explainable. Now such a big line up with just slight differences between some models.
Thx for explaining the differences between these.
Hey no problem! Thanks for watching. Glad we could help.
Can you do a video on the real difference between the revelation and pike ? I changed the air spring in my 2019 revolation rc to the new pike 150mm and is there any difference in trails I can ride between the two ? Cheers
I bought rockshox pike 140mm travel for my giant x trance 2013 love them one the best things I bought and I just bought rockshox monarch plus rct3 rear sus
Excellent video. What by Fox is comparable to the Pike?
This only raises more questions for me😐 whats good for just street. Bunny hop, jump curbs and maybe very small platforms if im feeling crazy. (Any brand)
Pike DJ or Manitou Markhor 👌
Thank you mate, awesome video with well explained details💯👍
effin kenny powers in the background
I need some advice. I have an Orbea MX40. I want to change the fork for something lighter and a fork that is not coil suspension. My problem is the head is 1 1/8" non tapered. I've been looking at forks online but I find it slightly confusing also most of them are for tapered headed frames. I don't have a lot of money and the fork that is on the bicycle is 100MM so I want something that is 100MM or 120MM no less than 100MM.
Hey Steve! We have been helping out a ton of people upgrade their forks since we have launched this video. We can definitely make some recommendations for you. I would check out the RockShox 30 RL Gold. It's an air sprung fork that has a straight steerer. Shoot us an email at info@worldwidecyclery.com and let us know which bike you are on and we will tell you which fork will work for you. :)
Worldwide Cyclery Its an Orbea MX40. It will be used mainly for casual mountain biking and road cycling until I can get my fitness level up again. Thank you for the suggestion I will send you an email on monday when I get the time.
Hey Steve I've seen some guys use a tapered fork in a straight 1 1/8" head with adapter bearings from both cane creek and with hope mixed head set cup bearings.
For a 170lb guy, what would be the softest smoothest ride for an 80lb ebike? I want something that soaks up the bumps for sure. Not going to jump a ton, just want a Cadillac ride..ideas?
You can tell the Yari is cheap, 2018 170mm Yari came with my TR Patrol and I personally don't like it. It's harsh and "dumb" when things get rough. The 160 Pike on my hardtail is great though! You get what you pay for.
I absolutely love my pike...
Thanks for the comparison. I have 150mm Yari. I'm wondering whether having a lockout will help on climbs. I've had some climbs where I could use help. If so I'm thinking about replacing my Yari with a Pike.
It really comes down to the type of climbs that you have. If you have long gradual fire road type climbs you might benefit from a lockout but if you are struggling with technical steep climbs you will want to have your damper in a more open position for traction and to help keep your front end down. :)
What's the difference between a yari with a charger 2 upgrade vs a lyric? Also new oem Yari forks and revelation 35s can come with a new charger rc damper similar to the grip damper from fox with a spring backed ifp
There's no difference, just the decals
I have the recon but I'm hopefully getting the pike on my diamondback
If you were only after 160 mm travel , how much difference between the pike and the lyric ? Are there any other performance issues besides stiffness ?
Definitely no issues but for sure the only major difference is going to be how stiff the Lyric is over the Pike. If you are going to be sending it on big drops or need control down very steep terrain then the Lyric would be the way to go. :)
@@WorldwideCyclery Are you saying that a 2019 Lyrik will handle descents and chunk better than a pike?. I'm also considering a Lyrik vs Pike 160mm as upgrade on my 2019 stumpy to replace 150mm Fox 34 Rhythm. Cheers and keep up the awesome videos
Rob Bradshaw I’m in the same boat on my 2020 stumps what did you go with?
Thank you guys! We’ve often wondered this. Also, is that Kenny Powers!? Rad!
No problem and you are correct sir!
How would the 150 Pike fair at bike parks? Right now I have a 150 Recon RL and I have not had too many complaints about it other than I can't run tokens in them.
Could one change out the boxxers lowers to the Lyrik or the Yari to make use of the 20 mill axel? They are all 35mm stanchion sizes.
Hmmm.....that's a new one. Not actually sure if that would work. They are both the same outer stanchion size but the tolerances inside the stanchions and possibly the crown spacing. Would probably need to contact RockShox on that one but it would make for an interesting setup.
Could you guys try if you have both forks on stock?
Why am I here I’ve got a 120mm rockshox Xc30
Crusaderz RC I feel u I got a120mm rockshox recon solo air but hey officially we are apart of the rock shox squad right
got a 100mm recon coil :(
I have a 100mm rs1
rs1 is expensive af
One day! One day my friend. You will have a nicer bike. We believe in you! :)
I bought a marin san Quentin with a revelation debonair 130mm on it. To me it feels a bit clunky and after riding a mates bike with a fox 36 150mm was keen to change to one aswell. But before i do can my shock be upgraded to 150mm and as plush as the fox? Cheers
could you guys do another video like this but with the rear shocks
We will take it into consideration. It's definitely a good matchup with the RockShox fork video. Thanks!
Bulls Copperhead 3 rs. Magura Mt7. Lyrik RCT DPA - 29 inch- 180 mm - tapered - 15QR x 110 - 2018 - remote
ROCKSHOX PIKE RC FAST SOLO AIR 27.5" 160mm 15QR TAPERED is my fork. Can I add the Charge 2.1, debon air spring? I also need to rebuilt it soon since it's been since 2015, lol
Hello. I have question about buying one of this forks. I can get new Revelation 2019 for good price. Becouse i'm 230lbs and my ebike weight 50lbs i'm in doubt. To buy Revelation or Yari ? What do you guys think! Thanks
Now the real question... 44mm or 51mm offset? Can you please explain what the differences are? I really don't know what to buy right now. Ty!
I'm using an 29er hardtail bike.
What about the new Revelation? Isn't that just a cheaper pike?
Yes
I guess the Revelation has a shorter travel range than the Pike. And of course , its cheaper.
Basically Pike chassis with the cheaper Motion Control Dampener. You can buy the pike charger 2 dampener from RS and swap it out down the road if wanted. I have a 2018 Rev and it seems pretty good to me so far.
Revelation has 34 mm stanstions pike has 36mm
Dale Burton negatory...For 2018 the Revelation moved to the same 35 mm chassis that is used with the pike, yari, lyrik, and boxxer. The Revelation and pike have a lighter weight lower and crown while the lyrik and yari have more material on the lowers and crown to make them tougher. Yari = cheap Lyrik, Revelation = Cheaper Pike.
As a 175 pound cyclist, who does mainly trail and enduro with very minimal jumps, building on a pivot 2020 switchblade, would the pike or lyrik match me more?
I would like the lyrik because of the stiffness, but if it is irrelevant in my use case then the lighter weight of the pike is certainly very enticing.
I have bomber 66 rc2x its a nice fork but i wanna get yari to replace it
Yari is just fine. Just raise the pressure a little more than recomended or add a token.
I love my lyrik rct3
I see you, kenny powers
i have a dumb question but since i'm able to put the exact same airshaft and damper into the rockshox revelation. Do i have any difference between a revelation and a pike or even a lyrik with a rct3 damper and the newest airshaft ?
Is the Debonair 2.1 compatible with the 2015 pike and would it make a big difference?
Hi, i have a new fork Yari 180mm travel 27.5 for a Commencal meta ht am medium bike, i dont know if that would fit my bike, if the geometry is still ok. I dont know if i will feel co
Fortable with 180mm travel, any advice?
The Seinfeld tune hit the spot
If I want to get 150mm front fork should I go for pike or lyric? I’m about 150 pounds.
Hi all. Does anybody knows what’s the bigger 29er that fits on a Yari 27.5 fork? I want to try at the front a little
I guess you can put boxxer lowers on a Pike or a yari stanchions to get 20 mm right?
Unfortunately that will not work :/ Let us know if you have any other questions!
Has anybody done/tried it to proof that it can't be done then?
The dimensions of a boxxer lower are completely different from these SC forks. The extra travel from the DC 200mm boxxer will make the lowers incompatible with the SC 160-180mm uppers.
Damn i dont even have RockShox tk 30 :( rich man spotted ^ btw great video ☝️
Hi there! I already have a pike but it's being performing quite bad perhaps it got a hit that closed a bit the angle and now it doesn't move smoothly. The thing is I wanted to buy a yari and change the cartridge for the rtc3 of my pike. Do you know if that might be possible?
I am not sure off the top of my head if that is possible. Send us an email to info@worldwidecyclery.com and one of our experts will get you an answer asap!
GREAT THANKS A LOT!
The Pike suits my needs but, the Lyrik comes in red... first world problems...
is a debon air upgrade worth it for my yari ?
I would say so, it will definitely make your fork feel plusher. :)
200€ man, that' alot of money. I'm leaving mine on stock setup.
Jurica Grčević the debon air upgrade is only £40 it’s the Rockshox Charger 2 RCT3 Crown Adjust Damper Kit that around £200
I have a 180mm Yarí whit debonair an is fantástic
Argyle Rct 4life ^^ dont Need The New forks :P
I’m looking at Canyon Spectral Al 5.0 (pike) vs YT Jeffsey base (Yari) and still don’t know which to get 🤔 (both have 160 mm travel BTW)
Make the decision based on other specs
should i run a Lyric or a Yari on my freeride bike?
is this bad that I have had to replace two sets of 36 170 grip 2 forks as im a 200 lbs rider on 29 enduro bike
Which one do you recommend for a Levo 2019, pike or Lyrik?
We have had a great time riding the new Lyrik. :)
I have a 2018 Stump jumper ST 130mm of travel. I want to make it 150 or 160mm travel. Would I null the warrantee if I went that far out?
You might, we are not a Specialized dealer unfortunately so you would definitely want to ask them!
Just a question guys. I'm assembling a new bike and my frame is Da Bomb Enduro 2021, 29er which requires 140mm travel. Can anyone advise me which of the 3 forks to get? Im a dude who's only 5'4" in height. Will appreciate whoever would answer. Thanks in advance!
Can anyone tell me if the Revelation is to the Pike what the Yari is to the Lyrik. You don't see the Revelation spec'd much on complete bikes and definitely it doesn't get as much praise as the Yari. Price wise a Revelation is hardly more than a 35 Gold, but seems a lot better and certainly more upgradeable. To save $50 I'm not sure why a million bikes come stock with the 35 gold.
"The Pike is probably one of the most versatile forks....." ok, but what does that _mean_?? I've come here for an explanation of "what the difference is" and immediately he's into vague/intangible terms like "versatile"
But my dad has a yari on his bike. And it's got 130 mm
Yeah you can get them with less travel but most ppl. go for the Pike when you don´t need that much Travel.
The Yari RC is 150 to 180, but the MY17 Yari RC is 120 to 180
Adam Fricska Thanks didn't know that!
N Greco Yeah I have one on my bike 130 mm travel
I love my PIKE
Not much really, but it's amazing how many people fall for the marketing hype...
Flying Lap Productions So What should I buy?? Pike or Yari??? Whats the difference?
I think the answer is to be honest about the style of your riding?
Pike has the better dampening. So do you want/need that?
Kenny Powers in the background 😂
Did they charge you copyrights for the seinfield theme music?
the longer travel part seems wrong... my Yari is only 120mm travel :/ is it fake?
It depends on which year and model Yari you have. The travel range can be anywhere from 100-180mm of travel.
Worldwide Cyclery ohhh that makes sense thanx, it's from around 2014 or 15..
Will be replaced by a proper XC fork in a few months, waiting to see what people think of that new Debon Air spring RS is putting in the Sid WC for the 2019 model
I would love to try this fork because i broke my fox😷😞
are the rockshox recon rl 140mm any good?
Definitely great for the money!
thank you very much! i believe they have black stanchions aswell which sure look good :)
I have a pike on my stump jumper, but it has a blackout decal look and I can't find it anywhere else. I was told it was debonair and it has 12 positions of COMPRESSION dampening. Do you know anything about this fork?
If you have a specific question about your fork send your serial number in an email with your question to info@worldwidecyclery.com and we will do our best to help you out. :)
Where does the Revelation fall with the rest of these?
I love rock shocks forks!
whats the difference between lyrik select and yari RC?
I bought a yari will it fit a 27.5 3.0 tire, please help.
Send our guys an email with a serial number and we can let you know! :)
which one should i use for three inch tires?
They do a 29+ which will take a 3” 29er, & if 27+ the 29er will take 3” 27.5 tyres, they are all boost 110 hubs,
www.chainreactioncycles.com/rockshox-yari-rc-debonair-forks-boost-2018/rp-prod160853
Hi what's best front hub I get ..
i love my pike
jaakko200987654321 which one have you go?
My next bike will have Pike
Tomi Saaranen what is your next bike?
Can Lyrik Ultimate 27.5 can fit in 29er?
Can you modify the Yari to function like a lyrik?
Yeah main difference between the 2 are the seals and damper, both can be replaced.
@@BeniKenesei is that hard to do? Where would I find the correct parts?
@@rsstnnr76 Not that easy, but nothing serious, many webshops have them, if you change out the damper its going to feel amazing, thats about 200$.
@@BeniKenesei ok. Thanks.
@@BeniKenesei it will be a noticeable difference?
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