Enduro Vs Trail Suspension Fork | What's The Difference?
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- The line between trail riding and enduro riding is becoming increasingly blurred; despite this, different component options are available to suit different styles of riding. One such component, your fork, handles damping duties at the front of the bike. In this video Trail Blake, Enduro Blake, and the Trail Angel are using suspension pioneers RockShox's new Pike and Lyrik Signature Series trail and enduro forks in the loamy heaven of the Surrey Hills; challenging them to climbs, descents, and big hits.
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Each fork is available in three different models; the Ultimate and Select+ feature the all new Charger 2.1 damper (the Ultimate also gets the RCT3 compression adjustment). The Select model has RC2 high and low speed compression adjustment. All models of the forks feature SKF wiper seals and Maxima Plush damping fluid to keep them running smoothly. Both wheel sizes are covered and there is a choice of two offsets to suit modern geometries. The Pike is available in 10mm increments from 120mm to 160mm of travel; whilst the Lyrik covers longer travel duties, 150mm to 180mm, again in 10mm increments.
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What does your Trail Angel whisper in your ear? 🤔
"SEEENDD ITTT"
"buy a downhill ebiiiiikeee doo it, join the dark side"
Ride ya fuckin bike
Shred the gnar, before the gnar shreds you.
“Wallets empty”- trail angel
Blake is quite easily the best host of all the bike networks. hands down
I have the biggest man crush on him.
Absolutely
What about Seth bike hacks ?
"Blakes" not "Blake".
FROST Seth doesn’t really make videos in the presenter format, he doesn’t have a cameraman or talk to the viewer while recording. It just isn’t his style, he does well with his many other talents like writing/narration, storyline, editing, versatility, cinematography, ect ect
These editors have way too much fun here at GMBN!
Definitely shout out for GMBN editors!
Agreed, got a good amount of chuckles and laughs from this end XD
Unfair comparison. You should switch riders and see how they perform. I bet Trail Blake on enduro bike would destroy Enduro Blake on trail bike.
Great video btw.
O.o? Did you really not notice? All 3 dudes in this video are exactly same dude! ROFL. It's called trick video editing and blue screening.
See when the two blakes are standing side-by-side. He really has done 1 video of the first bike, Then later switched clothes and bike later in time, and record in same exactly scene area but inches away. Then with video editing, He can 'clone' both videos together to make it seem like Video 1 and video 2 are in 1 video and responding to eachother. But really aren't.
KillerRaptorr r/whoooosh
@@KillerRaptorr I'm pretty sure his comment was tongue in cheek, you know, meant to be funny, not serious.
@@cartermacrenaris705 yeah 🤣
KillerRaptorr r/facepalm
Blake : 150mm small travel Trail Bike
My 120mm Trail Bike : Am I a joke to you
Eyy, at least we can climb without trying
My 75mm XC bike: "........"
@@djsercy5879 as long as you like the ride its fine
Remote lockout on a fork is a must have, i love mine
120 is xc trail?
Wait where is XC Blake with shaved legs and lycra?
go to some older videos from a week aho or so
Definitely one of THE best MTB channels. Thanks, GMBN!
Cheers!
No bout about that!
cant agree more
LOL I remember when forks with those travel numbers were only for DH bikes.
Kn P freeride and all mountain aint dead
If doing pure down hill get a stronger bike because your gonna need it anyway a trail bike is all 3 made lighter to suit all spectrums you can do downhill on a trail bike but the suspect might bottom out on a trail bike on big bomb jumps
jonathan oxlade you need better punctuation, no comers or full stops
@@samb2334 You need better spelling, before you criticise other people for grammar.
@@Critical_Stinking 😅
Blake vs Blake is always the best
kinda get the sense that Blake talks to himself all the time, so this was easy for him :)
Still missing Slopestyle Blake and DH Blake :D
Funny thing is there isn’t that much of a difference. Trail bikes and enduro bikes are more similar than any other types of bike. Blake on either (any) bike will kick my ass on either (any) bike on any terrain.
kinda what i was thinking geometry will have a bigger difference than 20mm
@@connormcguire8439 Yea except I bet geo isn't really that different between the two bikes. I'd guess (so probably wrong) about a degree or two difference in head angle, with a similar seat tube angle BB height reach, and chain stays. I bet if I were to ride both bikes I could feel a difference considering both geo and suspension, but my times on most terrain wouldn't be that different. Who knows though @Global Mountain Bike Network, get it touch so we can figure this out!
@@connormcguire8439 thats what she said
@@Planet9_music yes it is.
To me, both of those travel bikes ride totally different. The 150 is much more lively and nimble and the 170 is more of a monster truck that plows. Both have strengths and weaknesses but are both awesome.
I love split personality blake
waiting for four blakes next episode :)
which of them do you mean?
@@jxtproductions2584 Not sure, each Blake seemed to be pretty consistent in their own personality... I hope he doesn't think they're all the same or something
I want to see Blake ride these same sections on a 100mm travel hardtail xc bike.
Emphasis on XC, his nukeproof is cool but how would one tackle those sections (correctly) on a true xc race machine?
@@CyberdyneSystemsSkynet As someone riding a 100mm travel XTC Composite 29er, very roughly. And potentially much slower. Haha
mood
@@tanakritdd8223 f
Blake vs Blake is always a great time. Love his comedy, and props to the camera and editing crew as well.
Its a full time job for a part time biker to keep up with all the mtb info these days!! But never get tired of multi-Blakes!!!
150mm is a short travel fork?
Always entertaining with Blake though
alfyboy01 Compared to 180 or 200 it is short 🤷🏻♂️
These Blake vs Blake videos are absolutely brilliant, and are not only educational but super humorous! The addition of Blake to the already top crew at GMBN was/is genius. The guy cracks me up; wish I knew him personally and could share a pint with him regularly.
No need to watch mountain bike videos by others...GMBN, baby!
The industry has gone crazy. Now a 130mm ful sus, with trail geometry from 2018 is considered a xc bike by some people.
Not really, I'd definitely put that into the trail bike category
The main reason is that xc races are becoming more technical in the descend
Depends on the geometry so for example a transition scout, it has 130mm of travel but isn't classed as an xc bike
@@benasquith26 the scout has 150mm up front though
For some people everything without a double crown is a XC Bike 😅
I LOVE THESE BLAKE VS BLAKE SERIES!!! Big kudos to the editors that bring the best out of Blake!
I swear you are reading my mind with these videos
The best personality in MTB must be Blake hands down. There is nothing better than hearing "Welcome back you beautiful people!" everytime you open a GMBN vid.
Super nice edit. GMBN always brightens my day!
Is 150mm short travel? I'd have said 120mm is short travel.
Try 60mm travel like my hybrid bike or 100mm like my xc bike.
@@bobbyhempel1513 I rode an 100mm for almost a year. 👍
150mm is long travel in my opinion
150 is short travel.
I definitely approve this message!
I'd say 150mm is on the higher end.
I feel like 160 is the really happy medium! If your unsure of how much travel you need, less is probably more!
Great job to the production crew on this one, Excellent editing and story-driven video is badass !! Great job Blake on your acting career.
Blake arguing with Blake while listening to Traigle Blake might be the best thing since Charlie The Unicorn
Multiple Blake videos are the best. Always look forward to these. Another awesome video and cheers from the US/MX border
Trail Angel made me spit out my coffee. That was hilarious. Great demo on the 2 forks.
Cheers Jay! Hope it was informative 👍
Kinda reassured me i was in the right trail, track. On the right track. Keep it up guys. Im always looking forward to your videos. Very informative and smacked with humour.
I love this series. Thank you, Blake and Editors! Awesome work.
I'm a simple man, I see Blake I click play
Thanks Trail Fairy you have taken a bike test and video editing to another level, Fantastic riding you Blakes
I think that Blake has an identity crisis
Thank you! Great video on how fork/bike selection translates to the ride experience across different terrain, especially park riding high speed jumps one after the other. Match the bike to the task. Simple ... and expensive because one may need multiple bikes.
For me, either would do me fine. Currently I am on a 100mm travel hardtail with a cheap coil fork that pops/springs up as I go off jumps.
Nobody beats Blake! Hopefully he never leaves GMBN!
150 vs 170? Go 160. Lowest enduro travel, highest trail travel = great all arounder !!
That's what I did
I think 150 is the lowest enduro travel
Most of the riders out there are a bit overload with 36s and Lyriks
@@livefreeandshred9818 27.5 160 29er 150 will be enough
Just go 200mm and only ride park
Yaeh I do its awesome
I thought I wanted an Enduro bike until watching this Video. Thanks for coming up with it. For what I ride 90% of the time a Trail bike would be better.
These are definitely one of my favourite types of videos, big thumbs up 👍🏻
Cheers Tomi!
oooooooh Tomi Tomi.... Tomi Tomi Tomi Tomi Saaranen 🎼
As I sit here editing i now realize how hard you guys work on your editing. Thats like a day of recording and a day edit 😳 brilliant and entertaining 😁👍🏽
Thanks very much 🤘
Props for including a music track list. And of course, great vid m8! 👌
These edits and 2 way conversations are amazing
Always love watching Blake. Videos are always entertaining - fun to watch bike/part comparisons in formats like this
Big points Blake!! Most entertaining host in MTB broadcast!!
Informative.
Technical.
Explanatory.
Thanks guys.
Superb vid... Entertaining and informative. GMBN at its best 😎🤘
I’ve been through a ton of mtb videos and this one helped me out the most, while also providing great camera work and humor
When Blake calls me “you beautiful people” I blush every time
I just installed a rockshox 35 gold rl 160mm travel on my trek roscoe, I chose this fork as my best option being a bigger rider, so far I'm no longer bottoming out every 5 seconds like I was on the stock 130mm fork, it has also affected the slack just enough to make it handle better on my local trails and feel more stable on jumps
Mate adding 40mm of travel onto a bike is not a good idea, the bike was designed for the travel it’s got and will mess up the geometry and is much more likely to snap if the frame
@@cohenpeters7200 I went from a 130 to 160 and it's awesome, it completely brought my bike to life. This only slackened it up a couple degrees, about as much as if I would've put a slackerizer headset on it. If the frame snaps then I'll buy a new one. No worries. Keep shredding 🤙
GMTB stepping up the game with not 2 BUT 3 Blake clones now.
This guy is a gem. What an Intro! :D
Super super cool video! I like the editing a lot! In my area where I live Raleigh NC the 150mm is where it's at for me... plenty good.
150 or 140 is the sweet spot for me so ya I agree
It’s a great take on the ride differences that you can feel on bigger vs smaller travel bikes. I did a ride on a Nomad version 3 and it needed to be at Mach 3 hitting big stuff before it felt like it was coming alive. If you don’t have that terrain on your door step it can feel like the bike does it all as you are a passenger.
Ohhh I recognise those trails...... The Hills ❤️❤️
Love the additional production on this video also. Keep pumping these educational / Infotainment contents out. Excellent.
Trail Blake should have used a trail bike! 130/140max travel, not a soft enduro vs. Hard-core enduro.... so didn't really like the video, as I think the bikes are too similar....
I run the Pike on my Marin Vision 8, I love it. Great video gentlemen.
"150 mm travel is short" whaaaat? at least test the difference between 120 and 170 instead of 150 vs 170
Blake is a great teacher and exudes happiness all the time, hes really great to watch 😫👌👌 I'd love to be coached by him man itd be so sweet
7:36 You can see a line down between both Blakes for the editing. The others were pretty solid though. 😉
These two could be twins, I can't believe how much they resemble one another!
Everytime I watch a gmbn video all I want to do is get out on my bike
Music to our ears 🤘
I have a 160 all round capra, anything more than 130 aint xc but my local trails are steep and technical which dictated my choice and i love it any new full sus bike nowadays is wicked
150 vs 170 not much different should have tried a shorter travel trail bike 130 or 140.
Remember the time when 140 was for enduro:)))
120mm on a 29er is pretty capable with a good rim/tire combo.
I am riding with a few spacers, 3/4 of 5.
Front tire is in dh casing, helps a lot.
If youre good with such a bike, you will be killing it on a 160-180mm one
You guys (backround guys incl.) have such an amazing energie. Lovely vibes and it’s so much fun to watch, THANKS
Get a 150 mm lyrik because it is the stiffer than a 150 pike and more heavy duty.
I went from a giant talon 2 100mm travel to a pivot firebird 170mm travel on a demo day. It's crazy how much all that extra travel can give more confidence.
9:36 Everything you need to know to get Up To Speed on trail forks!
My favourite new GMBN TRIO. Can't wait for more of therse guys!
I ride my 130mm 5010 quicker down all the trails I was riding 5-10 years ago on my 200mm dh bike with ease 🤷🏼♂️, rider skill and strength go a long way to putting a bike down a trail
Years ago before mountain bikes we used to ride down hill on no suspension but the bounce made it very hard to hold but with front suspension you can take out the bumps giving you much safer and more control, only need more speed for comps
Looks like some of my favourite bits of the Surrey Hills 👍🏽
Although those jumps on Northern Monkey are way too big for me 😂
I just switched from a 150mm Fox 34 Performance to a 150mm Fox 36 Factory and can feel the difference on the downs while the ups remain unaffected with the weight difference being unnoticeable. To me the 34 is trail and the 36 enduro, it's not all about travel.
Haha, he kept calling 150mm short travel. I know it was the shorter of the two, but that's pretty silly sounding when I'm riding a truly short travel full sus with 80mm front and back
Agree, I have a 100mm XC FS bike and I kept chuckling in my head whenever he called that bike a short travel one 😅
Haha same, what bike do you ride
I'm riding a 1996 Litespeed OBED F/S. It's a really early Horst link full sus design, with a titanium front triangle and aluminum rear triangle. The rear suspension triangle was built by AMP Research, and is the same as the old AMP B2. The frame is the only original hardware, I've replaced every other component, including the shock. Still 80mm travel front and back though. The modern fork is already longer than the old one in terms of crown to axle, so I was worried that adding any more travel would change the geometry too much. I love riding this old beast, and I've taken it down some steep, tech trails with drops up to like 2 or 3 feet. It's also set up for bikepacking. You can have a lot of fun on old bikes. That said, I demoed some new ones recently, and the technology has come a long way in 20 years. I feel like I don't want to push my old warhorse any harder, so I think it is time for a new bike that I can really get rowdy on. I'm feeling really drawn to the new kinds of hardcore hardtails, like the ragley blue pig. Something with a 140ish fork, long-low-slack geometry, and probably 27.5+/29er options. I can tell that the geometry out my current bike was really just a minor change from road bike geometry. It's from the truly early days of MTB design.
How about you Kelvin, what's your steed?
We all know it’s a “relative”term. Kinda like when an NBA has its “short” lineup out on a court, and the players range from 6-3 to 6-7; short, ha!
More substantive here is the difference between enduro and trail bikes for different conditions and what causes the differences.
GMBN rocks!
Yah my bike suspension broke so it’s locked I’m saving for new bike
Very very much effort put into the video...one of the most entertaining vids ever
Love these vids even tho I ride a 27.5+ hardtail !🙂
Me too. I find I can ride pretty much anything I want on a hardtail. Granted its gonna be slower over the big stuff but its still fun, just in a different way.
Blake, you are just a big size kid and we love it.
If you are a good rider it doesn't matter what bike you ride!
Bullshit
*Fabio Wibmer walks into walmart*
This was a beautiful video! I enjoyed it!
Who else wants to see a bike check on Blake's Canyon Torque.
The best AD video I've seen so far
Cheers! Hope you've learnt something!
Hi Blake. Thank you for the video. As always mega interesting. Could you tell me what size wheel do you prefer for trails/ bit of jumping and xc?
Awesome video--very informative and fun! Great job Blake and all the people behind the scenes!
When he started with "welcome back you beautiful people..... "
for some weird reason, I was hoping he would continue with...
"Here is me face"
BLISS!!! Now I have a Traingel to help me get to MTB Heaven!! I love these episodes with multiple Blakes!
And there is me with 100mm Suntour :(
Paweł Warowny we all gotta start somewhere! Not all of us have sponsor parts either! 😂
a real losser ... jeje
Same lol but I've never been on a trail :/
i’ve got 75mm
Same
Awesome production! I usually enjoy watching the POV, but this is the future! Great guy, great camera action, great editing, great story. I don't usually give props, but that's an amazing crew. Nice job! Have fun!
This is not a good compare. You had to compare a lyrik vs revelation. A 150mm.pike is almost an enduro fork, or it was until they recovered the lyrik. Both are 35 mm stanchions. You have to compare a 32mm 120-140 fork with the lyrik. But I love they way you do you videos Blake.😃
I agree, i had a Revelation on my old genius and I replaced it with a marzocchi 55. It's really like night and day.
Federico Testa i jumped from a 130mm revelation to a 140 mm pike tuned to 150mm and MRP ramp up dial, and the difference is as you said noghr and day. If you compare it with a factory 170 lyrik the difference is huge.
Nice one! for me was all about comfort and confidence, is a mental state that flows on to you, i see people in XC or CX bikes going hard downhill making jumps and tricks, a good 'rider' don't blame the tool for lack of skills or not enjoy the trails. forks are just the tip of a debate, if is a tech debate in the table.
Danny Mcskills would come out here on a road bike😂😂
Brilliant video as always...but you have to keep in mind, that the Mega has 165mm travel in the back, whereas the spectral only has 140mm. In my opinion this makes more of a difference than the 20mm in the front. Addintionally the Mega is heavier, so a bit mor forgiving in every part. In the end the differences should be very subtle on the shown tracks and terrains. Without the direct comparison you would be happy with both bikes....
Don´t These Bikes Have Suspension Lock?
Climbs Would Be Piece Of Cake With Clips And Hardtail.
They are heavy forks. Even lockout is not 100% locked out.
Actually you don't want to lock your fork on a technical climb or it will get harder and the front might lift up . On long smooth terrain I guess it could help...
Elliott-MTB you don’t have to lock them out, most forks have a mid/trail mode
GMBN, great presentation, good idea, but the main point here, that you compared is 29er with 150mm and a 27er with 170. So difference of wheelsize is effecting more than the 20mm travel. I have ridden 29ers with 150mm and 27ers with 170mm. 29er is faster on downs and ups. But 170mm with 27er feels nicer for bikeparks. Due to my bodysize (1.75m) I prefer 27ers. But can only recommend 29ers for whomever is not using theirs bikes in the bikepark.
The Traingel battling his demons again ( ͡ಠ ͜ʖ ͡ಠ)
Traingel? A gel made from trains?
Loving all your videos guys, as a novice mtb rider(age53) I am learning lots from them. Here' a suggestion for a feature, could you do a dictionary of mtb terms and their definitions? It may be helpful and interesting especially for beginners like me. Keep up the great work and thanks. Andy.
it is funny because I just turned my 150mm yari into a 170mm and boy oh boy can you feel it
I had 100mm upgraded to 120mm oh boy you can feel it on my xc bike
You should upgrade to a 300 mm fork, just to be envy the guy rocking a 330 mm monster.
What made you change?
@@paulbyrne4214 Made a typo.
@@paulbyrne4214 blown fork and i was thinking if i have more travel i can send (it to the sky
"Sam pilgrim)
What's better than Blake vs Blake? Blake vs Blake with Blake plus hands on experience of the different forks. Cool vid.
canyon - "ok. let's make spectral 160mm with fox 36, so they don't argue"
Got it, and no argues at all:). versatile not too heavy and performing as fuck..happy dayss
im on the new yari 160, it's in between the pike and the lyric, great value inexpensive fork that does it all
Call me crazy but.... a 150/170 Pike and Lyrik are both high end enduro forks? Yari/Revelation and Reba are more trail forks between 120 and 140. Weird comparison.
That entrance alone deserves a Like 👍
Um... I am afraid to say that i can't relate with this video. My rockshock pike is lengthened to 160mm or travel.
The new iteration of the Pike is still available in 120-160mm in 10mm increments :)
DAYUM those Edits xD Nice Video Blake and Team. As Always
Cheers Mario!