Microsoft vs. Apple: Satya Nadella Says AI-Focused Copilot+ PCs Beat Macs | WSJ
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- Опубліковано 18 чер 2024
- Microsoft’s new Copilot+ PCs with Qualcomm chips and AI Windows features aim to beat Apple’s MacBooks.
WSJ’s Joanna Stern tried out the new laptops and sat down with Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella to ask all about it.
Chapters:
0:00 Microsoft’s Copilot+ PCs
0:54 New Arm + AI chips
3:23 New Windows AI software
6:48 The future of AI PCs
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Я конечно всё понимаю. Но хочу по возможности оставаться свободным. Даже если вы за мной поностью следите , но я всё же решу выбросить компьютер на помойку. Я из поколения между вами. Я ещё помню радость от игры на электрогитаре и первый стейдждайвинг.
Помните о максимально допустимая мощность ИИ для возможности полного предвидения действий и контроля человечества...
Не переборщите, пожалуйста!
Of course I understand everything. But I want to remain as free as possible. Even if you follow me completely, I still decide to throw the computer in the trash. I'm from the generation between you. I still remember the joy of playing the electric guitar and my first stage diving.
Remember the maximum permissible power of AI to be able to fully predict the actions and control of humanity...
Don't overdo it, please!
Give Copilot a face... bring back Clippy. 😏📎
@@rrrrrrrrreeerrrrtyuii completely agree but I unfortunately it's coming and there's no stopping it.
The first thing I did with AI Copilot was figure out how to disable AI Copilot.
that would kind of negate wanting to buy one of those new machines in the first place =P
@@jasonpierce45183rd party/other software that runs on the new hardware:
You can absolutely want the hardware without the software @@jasonpierce4518
How did you do it?
@@vedantmungre1702 you can set some registry keys. Google it.
Windows + screenshots from everything you touch on windows computer = is every hacker’s dream come true.
Not quite but nice try.
@@estiennetaylor1260 Clearly you didn't get the point. And if you think companies that buy up large amounts of data haven't been hacked you're REALLY naive.
This. I'm literally shorting Microsofts stock after this. Everytime companies say something super woke, or tyrannical, I make a fortune.
@@estiennetaylor1260 What you know about that?
😂 you clearly don't have an idea of how ai runs locally do you
"It's sees you, it hears you, it's always there"
I don't want that.
I would, but not from a company that's bound to drop eaves on it.
Edit: Or how do you say in America, is the word "eavesdrop".
It’ll even interrupt you!
After Windows 10 end of life, my next computer will be some form of Linux.
Seriously, it's like a tagline of a horror movie.
@@DMahalko you don't need a whole new computer just to install Linux
Satya said: "the browser was born on windows", but that is a lie. The WorldWideWeb was developed on a Next computer, and Mosiac was developed on unix. What kind of revisionist history is he trying to out there?
Nerd
lol i thought the same thing. i saw the 'graphic' web for the first time on a next box with unix. back when we were using gopher. =) and then we ran netscape for a very long time after that, not ie.
And who was using that internet on unix? Yeah nobody
He probably means hyperlinks in the Windows applications
@@azexy21 If you don't know something, the correct response to new information is to LEARN it, so that you and the whole world are now just that tiny bit smarter. Instead, your response to new information was to call names... and now YOU are no smarter but the world itself is just that tiny bit dumber because of your contribution. Quite a legacy to aspire to.
Satya has been extra confident and cheerful ever since the OpenAI collaboration.
No livestream of the presentation though, so not confident ENOUGH 🤡
@@Dada228822 tbf apple doesn't even do that anymore
his style has always been that way. It's just that he has more to talk about since open ai partnership.
with microsoft launching so many AI products recently, he would be cheerful
@@Dada228822 This was a private event, official keynote livestream is tomorrow.
thanks sounds terrifying
1 - you are not required to activate
2 - you need to have a specific PC
3 - it's not an invasion, you enable it to have the latest news.
4 - does not go to the internet
@@Test-ny6uh are you aware that telemetry, updates, apps and ads were optional and now are mandatory on windows 11? That's what will happen in next year's to the "optional" Big Brother.
@@nicolaottomano That's not a big brother. no one will have access.
@@Test-ny6uh "for now" (fixed)
@@Test-ny6uh Hackers, admins, etc. It will be made mandatory later, as with everything else.
Bitlocker also was optional until it will not be. Windows 11 is forcing it on new installations enabled by default.
Did they just say they take screenshots of everything we will do!?? 😬
locally.
there's no need to panic
Yep. Thus an invasion of privacy right there. Play back all your bank information and all that good stuff. Why? Because Ai 👍
What could go wrong.
@@elivegba8186until people get compromised and allow someone to remote into their computer, which happens literally all the time.
You can automatically disable is for things like banking and it's all offline, none of it goes to the cloud @@applemaniac8796
Dear Satya. The vast majority of customers would prefer not to have continuous automated screen shots of the adult websites and videos they are viewing on their PC's. The fact that the feature is there is a non starter because nobody trusts Microsoft with privacy. -Sincerely, 95% of the honest adult population
no lies here ,.. i switched to linux 2 weeks ago cause i finally got fed up with the direction windows has been moving , i never loved win11 but after around 3 years of using it its only gotten increasingly worse. linux has been frankly better than i expected after yrs of worrying about compatibility and not making the jump. wayland has some weirdness with nvidia cards that should be 'fixed' in coming drivers and hopefully it'll be even smoother after that , in the mean time x11 instead of wayland works fine enough , i haven't booted into windows more than the once the first day
It's not even adult websites. It's the fact that the operating system is taking constant automated screenshots at all! Even as someone who doesn't visit adult sites, this function will still capture sensitive information such as names, addresses, social security numbers, credit card information, and basically anything else I would ever put into a form and would like to keep confidential. Good thing I don't use Windows day-to-day, and when I do, something breaks and it's a generally poor experience. My experience with Windows is identical to how people who are supportive of Windows view the Linux experience - lots of unnecessary tweaks, bugs, and other issues, while Linux doesn't give me these headaches. It's a funny paradox
Switch to Linux
Yes.... But from a neurodivergent's point, I think it'd be easier to remember which Movie and which STAR were you supposed to watch next... The screenshots might be helpful that way. ☠️🤷🏽
im switching to linux. Gonna set up a dual boot system where I game on windows and do all the rest on linux, and install in such a way that Linux will be set up on its own partitions using ext4 file systems so that windows has absolutely no possible access to what im doing on linux. this "feature" freaks me out.
4:30
"This is my computer". You would think so, but the fact that Microsoft tries its best to not let you use a Windows 11 PC unless you sign in to a Microsoft account says otherwise.
Read my comment. Recently my calendar dates were locked behind the Outlook app. I lost everything on my Calendar.
I think you use your android or iPhone without Google or Apple ID don't you?
@@jeetmajumdar7588
But you don’t have to in macOS 🤷🏻♂️
So does every other popular OS like Mac, iOS, android etc 😂
some would argue you dont have to, but then exclude the fact that most apps and sites are requiring logins. macs want you to login to apple too, so its not just ms. i mostly just do not want to see subscription based accounts.
The web browser was born on a NeXT computer, and didn't some to Windows until about 3 years later, after they had been developed for other UNIX computers, MS DOS, and the Mac OS.
Fun fact: if a web browser was invented today it would be a flop, because it wouldn't even be allowed by Apple's ToS to be released on iOS.
@@kazioo2 You are probably not wrong lol.
ChatGPT confirms this
Indeed, and before that you had Arpanet and so on. But the internet didn't really become mainstream before Windows 95 and 98 really. Netscape navigator, Altavista and so on. What a different world it was back then. I remember being stoked when we got a double ISDN line at home. 128kbits of speed. Truly glorious. Of course I couldn't use the double line if the phone was needed.
He was not talking about web browser..he is talking about ability to search local files in windows using search bar...
That all sounds absolutely terrifying and intrusive.
1 - you are not required to activate
2 - you need to have a specific PC
3 - it's not an invasion, you enable it to have the latest news.
4 - does not go to the internet
@@Test-ny6uh lol and u think it goes off when u click it.....cmon.
Linux. That's your answer.
@@giocalle375 It's a bot
@@avisprimey ofc dude...as u wish
We don't want to watch Microsoft ads.
I want it, this product is incredible
This didn't seem very ad-like to me. Her questions were very critical of Microsoft's claims.
@@loganhyler9588 They wouldn't produce an overt advertisement. Her being critical makes it better.
@@Test-ny6uh MS bot
@@loganhyler9588 OP most probably meant ads within Windows 11, not this particular video.
Speaking on trust, Windows is already intrusive enough, you think they really aren't going to use their 'local' npu data and package it and sell it in some way?
Every company is intrusive
@@jeniiusApple isn’t, because they use the Secure Enclave to prevent anything sensitive from leaving your computer and going to the cloud. Siri is dumb as a brick because Apple doesn’t train it with user data.
@jeniius not open source software.
To be fair they've done better than google and meta. Selling your data isn't Microsoft's primary business but it is for the other two mentioned
@@nandans2506 Google and Facebook aren’t an OS on your device though… and Bing 100% also does the same thing as Google.
Is this an ad?
absolutely
Is it embedded in your windows OS? Then yes, it's definitely an ad
thought the same ...
Perhaps a reason to think about how we should imagine data protection in the future. You don't need an aluminum hat to imagine dangers or gains. I don't think the view of a CEO does any harm.
Pretty much. It’s an unspoken agreement - “I won’t challenge you and you must agree to the interview and future interviews.”
"Screenshots and data only local", wink wink. It's not being synced in Redmond's servers, trust me bro, its not ready to be served to Uncle Sam upon request.
The pitfalls of closed source
Oh, I'm sure they might be telling mostly the truth about the images. Now, the OCR'd text data scraped from those images....that's a whole different animal.
Conspiracy people are always so fun
@@tomastaz and they've been saying the same thing about Microsoft for 30 years.
@@tomastaz google chrome's incognito blatantly lied for decades about keeping ur shii private and got caught lackin. time to pay attention to the skeptics, pal
7:10 The browser was born on Windows? I guess if we arbitrarily set a starting date of 1995 and ignore anything before that time, then yes.
Yeah, pretty selective memory there, dude. I thought the same thing. I first used Mosaic in our Unix lab around 1992-ish and Lynx before that.
Yes. Because nothing else mattered. Everything else was and still is, irrelevant. He is talking about Personal Computing.
@keelfly Unix systems have been used for personal computing before Windows even was a thing! 🤡
The recall thing is the first thing I'll disable whenever it rolls out. I know it'll be a security risk. Releasing data it was not supposed to when malicious people gets somehow access to it.
But will you be able to actually disable it?
It will probably turn back on after each Microsoft update, Microsoft got in trouble for that exact thing a few years ago turning things back on after people disabling them, oh and don’t forget the data they promised to not take and got sued for lying.
@@Some0ne001 same with internet explorer/edge. tried everything from windows updates to regedit, still turns itself back on after every update. then i discovered 'edgeblock'. no more microsoft edge also, try portmaster. blocks any trackers/analytics/telemetry/ads from anything. including microsoft
@@Bluebull308 Now that detective is the right question.
This reminds me of my exit interview. My boss sat me down and tried to persuade me to stay, but all he did was convince me to leave.
This is why everyone is moving to Linux.
@@joshuahernandez-th6ovif only that were true. Barely any general consumer even knows what Linux is, let alone is moving to it.
@@joshuahernandez-th6ov We have better means of selling Linux to people than copy-pasting it everywhere, aight?
Guys, don't be fooled by the Microsoft newspeak. "AI Copilot+ PC", "on the Edge". It's the exact same Windows with a chat bot add-on.
sooo basically just Edge because I won't use the chatbot. Why, at that point, it's just a web browser, isn't it? And I already have one of those
…No it’s not it’s doing the computation locally which takes a lot of computation power.
@@SsjHokage so the only difference is where the processing happens?
@@medivyanshsingh yes because doing all the data processing in the cloud, like they do now, is very expensive for Microsoft, so now they can do it on the users' machine directly and save a lot of cost.
IM EDGING!
It's time to switch to Linux for real this time! 🐧
i did it 2 weeks ago and its been pretty nice honestly . i mostly game and websurf and nobara has been great for me
Yes Sir 🫡
First thing I do on any new laptop is to clear out Windows, and install Linux. I'm not joking.
we just need the company to make their apps compatible now... that's what is missing
Yep, doing that when I get my new computer
I don't want this. I don't need this.
The fact that the AI is taking screenshots of your desktop is a big no from me. Time to downgrade to windows 10 or learn Linux.
This is why everyone is moving to Linux. Linux golden age is coming.
Soon, MicroBloat age will coming to end. This will start the beginning of Linux computer era.
1 - you are not required to activate
2 - you need to have a specific PC
3 - it's not an invasion, you enable it to have the latest news.
4 - does not go to the internet
@@Test-ny6uh ok bot
Wonder where it stores screenshots on the file system and if it is taking screenshots when you edit admin protected config files or how it treats different users on the same system as far as screenshot storage.
I can only imagine the magnitude of the shitstorm after every hacker attack that will allow them to gain access to such data.
This is why everyone is moving to Linux. Linux golden age is coming.
@@joshuahernandez-th6ovlinux is too complicated for mainstream. It won’t reach the average consumer level anytime soon
@@joshuahernandez-th6ov Linux golden age has been "coming" for decades now....
Dude, even hardcore techies know that Unix mainstream ain’t happenin and frankly, I think they want to keep it that way 😂
@@joshuahernandez-th6ov Nobody is moving to Linux. Anyone who's ditching Windows is going Mac. The only people "using" Linux are those who bought Steam Decks, and _those_ people will never actually enter the Linux desktop on the Deck and will only ever use the game UI.
The first thing I did with AI Copilot was figure out how to disable AI Copilot. Just like what I do with every other Microsoft 'improvement' including Cortana.
Ur wrong this time.
To be fair, the co-pilot, or Chatgpt, is extremely useful, unlike Cortana.
Lol, just noticed I hadn't disabled it. Fixed.
As a Forensics’s examiner I can’t wait to find out what sort of loopholes this will introduce. If they make it, someone can break it.
Well in a good way, Microsoft getting everyones screenshots will help stop pedophiles who use the OS for their sick desires.
Not to mention all of the security holes (because duh -- it's a Winbloat operating system).
Privacy is dead
Only if you let it be. There *are* alternative operating systems out there that would never be able to implement something like this
Linux is looking way nicer now
Lifetime Windows users here and saying beating the Mac is a really bold statement. I'm using the M3 Max and it's pretty darn good. Waiting to use one
They're trying to beat the MacBook Air's. They'll probably still want you to get an RTX laptop if you want actual power.
@@BlackParade01 These Qualcomm chips that the new laptops run on are fully compatible with RTX GPUs apparently. May take a few more months, but you bet Qualcomm + RTX gaming laptops with days of battery life are coming. I'm sure the likes of Alienware and Razer are looking at these CPUs with bright eyes, especially for small 14-inch laptops.
@@skyscall wait, what????
If that is the case..... I think it would actually replace my MacBook.
this has a usb 4 port so i guess an external GPU can be used on it for powerful gaming? something like a ONEXGPU?
Beat the Mac? Mac is a comparative nobody in terms of market share.
Plus Apple's processors can't even hold onto encryption keys due to hardware level screw-ups
I can see organisations use Copilot with Recall to be able to search/scan/see everything their IP (I mean employees) do
It is generated locally indeed, then "sent" via the auto opt-in "Help us improve our CoPilot...."
Joanna suggesting the default wallpaper for Windows 12. Lowkey Iconic moment! 🤣✨
Joanna should host SNL
Satya Nadella Live?
@@benaffleckisanokayactor Yup!
@@benaffleckisanokayactor Do you mean, Saturday Night Live?
"Pretend I'm not a computer nerd" like yeah, you are not. What's there to pretend?
The coolest thing about Microsoft's new AI features, in my opinion, is the opportunity to dive deep into the Settings app to figure out how to immediately turn them off.
Then you will find out there is NO WAY to turn it off.
Recall sounds incredibly invasive.
Thanks for the tip on disabling Recall. Probably good to turn off the internet too.
Might as well throw all your computers out when you're being this paranoid
@@BlackParade01 a software that is constantly taking screenshots of your computer is indeed risky. no paranoid.
@@daleth50 as long as those screenshots are secured and not connecting to the internet, it's fine.
@@BlackParade01 they will be UPLOADED to MS and the FBI, CIA, NSA, etc.
@@BlackParade01 "While there is a camera in my toilet filming whatever I do, as long as it doesn't get uiploaded online, it's fine"
Now I'll be able to see and index and search absolutely everything that my employees do every day.
Throw in a webcam AI monitor as well, viola! we have "Windows 1984"
They already do. Your 365 enterprise package allows this. Ask your IT team.
the last thing we need is microsoft recording everything we do
I didn’t hear him say that the screenshots WONT go to Microsoft.
This is why everyone is moving to Linux.
He said exactly that
@@maximusg88no- that’s what he wanted you to hear though. He said it’s “done locally” and “done on my computer/on the edge” - which may be true. Maybe the processes themselves are run locally. But as the OP said, they don’t promise that the information isn’t sent back to Microsoft.
Execs are trained to speak like politicians. You know they’re lying if their lips are moving.
He did say, it's happening on the Edge. Literally means happening locally.
@@srsgonu And you trust him? 😂
Windows Recall = Scary
No Loud Fans on Windows Laptop = Finally
I'm still waiting for Microsoft to fix the battery management and type cover port on my Surface they broke through a firmware update that was integrated into the forced Windows update. But they'll never fix it because it's out of support. 🙄
So yeah, whatever flashy stuff they release: *don't buy a computer from Microsoft!*
If you don't want to own an expensive paperweight in a few years...
So Microsoft is going to take random screenshots of your screen so that you can search moments... don't worry, though, it is running entirely on the edge... No matter the justification, that just sounds creepy.
If it works. Maybe you will be thankful when you find that thing you're looking for in seconds.
@pdropm3352 I don't really trust that it will remain "on device." Microsoft is increasingly acting in their own best interest and being proprietary, no one can truly know what happens to this data or the learnings derived from it.
As someone pursuing a career in cyber security, this kind of thing just doesn't sit right with me. How many people are going to know to turn it off or add exceptions. Also, there might come a time where this is pulled into Microsoft InTune, Microsoft Viva, etc. Then it becomes your employers to search and learn from.
If it would be Apple, you'd probably call it the most amazing thing ever
@@maximusg88because it would run encrypted and on-device
@@tjadejoh that's exactly how it will work on windows man 😂😂😂 maybe listen to the video first?
This feels like assault the way they're forcing this totally unwanted thing into every single orifice of their software. 😫😫😫
Just don't buy it
unwanted by you, maybe
I'm sure tonnes of people would love this Recall stuff
Just don't use it if you want to stay archaic.
@@angrygreek1985 No you Recall the Cambridge Analytica scandal and how the tech megacorps use this data to manipulate and corrode our society, but whatever right?! You got a shiny new pseudo useful thing to waste time with while they build a permanent data profile on everyone who uses it. Dont worry about the future kiddo and play with their toys then. Their world is powered by people who dont think ahead, enamored with the slightest little "convenience".
@@angrygreek1985lol
Can someone give me an example of how to use recall productively?
Is it solving for “I can’t remember the name of a file I just saved and am too lazy to look through the Recent list”?
😂😂😂😂😂yeah
Search the official website and other news
Such a transparent attempt to just copy ridiculous amounts of user data, pretend it’s “local”, then sell it, dump it back into the algorithm for training, or get hacked. What an obvious train wreck this is gonna be. They’re basically admitting they’re gonna steal every moment of your activity for their own purposes with almost zero utility for the actual user.
No. It is for people who are actually busy. Have several meetings in a day, discuss with many different people about many different things, and receive a shitload of files that they must analyze, organize and communicate with others. You would not know anything about it :P
@Keelfly - Not sure why you felt the last line was necessary.
That still feels like a fringe use to me. Some days are chaotic, but the pace of most days should leave gaps for you to stay organized and getting the little things done timely.
Can't wait to see your computer testify against you in court😂😂😂
"Mr. Hypercrack, why did you disable Recall at 11:30pm last August 22nd, the exact same time as the illegal activity was registered on our servers..."
@@joelface "You're honour, I was.. watching.. porn.."
that paint app thing is crazy!
Everything is fine, but why do we have Windows Update everytime i have a serious PPT Presentation to give.?
Stop using Windows and start using Linux.
@@joshuahernandez-th6ovLinux only works for nerds. It’s inferior in almost all normal use cases.
@@mikezooper i have installed linux on my wifes computer, my kids computers and even my mothers computer. so no. its not just for 'nerds'. you just have no idea what your even talking about. its as if you think its all command line and has no gui. i even run ALL my windows games on it with steam thanks to Proton. there isnt a valid reason other than hate, jealousy or a displaced idea the others are 'better' at being used as a desktop. i have had a windows box i was forced to use still due to a very expensive program that had no port. but guess what. they just came out with a linux version for it. lol. reason? because linux isnt that mythical demon anymore. inferior? grow up.
Imagine now Windows AI PC can create the slides for you.
Windows only releases one (1) update per month on Patch Tuesday, and it's been this way for decades. It'll only begin to force updates on you if you're _so_ far behind on updates that you're missing several security patches.
Update your computer all the way literally *just once,* and enjoy only having to restart for an update once a month.
Are the sleep states in where's fixed or is it still gonna drain it's battery randomly when I throw it in my bag
Can't sleep when the "AI" needs to keep indexing your machine and sending telemetry to Microsoft.
a device capturing screenshots constantly is very VERY scary and I bet even it will be one of those features which is turned on by default. It's also kind of funny seeing microsoft jumping on the next hype wagon (after VR, Win8, APK Apps, etc) instead of first focusing on debloating and simplifying windows. The best example for that might be the settings app/control center situation.
But hey! AI is magic. Big buzzword. Computer goes whoosh!
Btw copilot is actually really good.
LINE MUST GO UP! NEED MORE VENTURE CAPITAL FUN-BUCKS!
@@aadixumCopilot is useless and makes quick tasks into drawn out ordeals that often result in something that's not even correct.
@@aadixum literally nobody asked for copilot except cokehead marketing execs who snort lines and snort excel cells 16 hours every day and have NO FAMILY NO LIFE
@@nickthaskaterlearn to prompt.
Looking forward to start edging!
Yoo this comment is wild 😂
I am eagerly anticipating getting one. Microsoft has done an excellent job. This comment has been revised by Co-Pilot.
4:30 - yes, because the window searches universally loved.
Abundance of compute? No, Ilya said, hey, lets use a GPU for the maths, and boom, GPU's had a while new market. The scale of it has only grown over the past few years as "training-specific" chips were developed for 10k+ clusters. ZERO proof that it's even the right direction to go (lots of evidence that it isn't, unless you're high on the hype).
So Windows requires Recall to learn your habits/interests and get to know you but apparently that's fine because the user can trust that it's running the compute locally on their device... and then he envisions a world in which this AI companion who knows you will be everywhere and have access to these memories on every device? That doesn't sound especially local to me.
And the proposed benefit of this is that it's aware I looked at brown leather bags the other day to do.. what exactly? Advertise brown leather bags to me? Unless I missed it at no point did he actually describe the supposed benefit of having a device which "knows" its user so perhaps someone else can help me out here?
Data collection and advertising is absolutely the point.
Every "smart" feature is all about sneaky ways to extract more money from you, that's the point!
Also: "trust us, it's all local and won't be used to spy on you" says the company that silently "upgraded" Windows 7 and 8 installations to Windows 10 a few years ago, silently "upgrades" Windows 10 installations to Windows 11 now and silently encrypts the user's drives on new installations of Windows 11, all without the user's knowledge or consent! 🤣🤦
People have total trust in these massive corporations that are now gonna skim all your data, even more. Yes there’s no way this can go wrong.
Surface gonna be a massive hit becouse people want to pay a few 1000 for a computer they are not even going to own.
did you not watch the video
@@BeyondTomorrowNowbro it's an ad with the ceo 😂 what did you expect from this video.
Just wait until you find out what kind of spy machine iOS is and all the data Apple has from its users and their devices...
If you turn off Recall is it really off?
recall gets uploaded to web, you're in trouble
Oh God - I do NOT want Windows taking screenshots of what I'm doing on my pc..... 😅😅😅😅
Same here, but for completely different reasons
Windows, Mac and Linux: three wonderful operating systems for completely different purposes. None of them can replace each other in the domains where they are the best. 👍
*Windows:* Your computer does whatever Microsoft wants it to do (updates, reboots, advertising, changing your standard programs and settings, etc). You might get to do what YOU want on "your" PC afterwards (reboot required), if Microsoft didn't break it.
*Mac OS:* Your computer does what you want, as long as your wants fit into Apple's walled garden ecosystem. Otherwise, you're SOL.
*Linux:* it does nothing you don't want it to do and can do most everything you want to do, but it might be a more manual task than you'd like.
Well, isn't that a great selection? 🙄
At least we can agree that Chrome OS is not even worth talking about! 🤣
@@LRM12o8 I choose Linux for my job and everyday uses, however, for some professions Mac OS or Windows would be a greater fit! For instance, 3D designers, they need a strong GPU to work with programs that were designed for Windows. For office work or university studies (except IT), Mac laptops can often be the best choice. I remember a story about 1-2 years ago I set a training of a pretty heavy AI model for the night on a Windows. I woke up in the morning and it turned out that Windows decided to do an update after an hour I went to sleep. So, 7 hours of nothing thanks to this wonderful system! 😄
How long do we have to wait to see Philomena Cunk redo this interview?
The question is why? Why is every big tech company coming up with features that nobody asked for?
I am so sick of these people!
We all are :/ it's just exhausting to see.
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as PC, is in fact, Copilot/PC, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Copilot plus PC. PC is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning Copilot system made useful by the Copilot corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the Copilot system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Copilot which is widely used today is often called PC, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the Copilot system, developed by the Copilot Project.
There really is a PC, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. PC is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. PC is normally used in combination with the Copilot operating system: the whole system is basically Copilot with PC added, or Copilot/PC. All the so-called PC distributions are really distributions of Copilot/PC!
Surely we see this come to Desktops and custom built computers
I've built Perfect Memory AI, which is a recall for today's x64 PCs. And it actually encrypts the screenshots to protect you from Ransomware / Microsoft. You can try it today.
Perfect Memory also masks and anonymizes any sensitive information before sending it out to ChatGPT. So ChatGPT receives xxxx-xx-xxxx instead of your SSN. I'd think if Microsoft actually cared about users privacy they'd do this as well at minimum.
Will it not slowdown if I set website exemptions first the screenshots?
how do ensure and promise that its all done locally and not selling data??? 4:35
You could run a packer sniffer on your router. There are still ways to hide the data transfer. He said some things still need the cloud, so that would be an easy way to slip out some of that extra data if they even want it. The data going to the llm is plenty on its own. You could also run windows in a VM and watch the memory. Windows already runs in one if you enable hyper-v. This would take a lot of setup, but I'm sure someone out there will be curious enough to dedicate the time to do it.
Of course, anyone hacking your computer gets all the data. And now there's way more than there ever was before.
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If it requires the person to be familiar with VMs, packet sniffing, firewalls to block certain ips/sites, etc etc.. It not really a answer, as 90% of the user base would never make it that far. The deeper question is how does Microsfot ensure i dont have to go that deep to block ads and data being sold, or being default to accept to till turned off buried deep registry settings.
@@Pseudo___ we both know the answer is we can't. Thankfully we have open source systems.
They can't. You can't trust Microsoft as far as you can throw it. I'd trust Somalian tap water more than Windows.
Just a suggestion, in the age of AI, PLEASE TAKE CARE OF “Excel has stopped responding…”
"No. Buy a new PC so you can qualify for Windows 12 instead, -even though one of our reps said Windows 10 would be the last- ."
Can you guys fix the cumulative updates PLEASE
That would require them to hire a massive team of beta testers again.
But why do that when they can push updates early to volunteers ("Windows Insiders") and a few randomly selected regular users and wait a few weeks if they send catastrophic feedback? 😅
That's been the state of Microsoft's update QA ever since they released Windows 10!
So will older laptops now running on Windows 11 also benefit from this Copilot+ PC update?
With ongoing advancement in LLM the size will be larger, how to update LLM in local device to newer(better, with later knowledge cutoffs) if it is too large? Do we just get stuck with one LLM w/o further training for PC's life span?
Interestingly, the GPT-4o application is being released first on Mac.
Because it’s already in market and Apple Silicon can run it. These surface PCs aren’t out there yet
The fist web browser (Mosaic) was a X windows system that ran on UNIX machines before it ran on Windows or Macintosh by almost a year. I remember running mosaic for the first time on a SUN workstation, when it was not available on a PC running Windows or before any Apple OS system.
So when Stya Nadella said Microsofr Windows was the first OS to run a web browser, it is just another example of Microsoft embellishment.
As a person that normally runs MacOS, I'm looking forward to a new ARM based processing system on a Windows box that is much cheaper than MacOS on Apple hardware. Windows 11 is not nearly as good as MacOS Sanoma, but is a compromise I might make because Apple hardware is outrageously expensive.
I like the SWIFT programming environment on MacOS where I can write a program that runs on iOS, watch ios, ipadOS, and MacOS with very little modification. We'll see if Windows 12 (I.e. Windows ARM) has the ability to run MacOS in emulation.
He said it runs and sees locally but it does't means they don't transfer it.
Kudos to Joanna Stern. One of the most enjoyable interviews I have seen. She knows her tech stuff, I love the visualization of the explanations, and I find her humor smart and with good taste. She asks hard questions out of sincerity and not being smug or whatever.
ARM is great for daily tasks. Emails, video consumption, web browsing etc. No fan kicking in means geavy duty productivity tasks will need better hardware than that. Having said that I am sure they'll just move it to the cloud in an attempt to eliminate people owning dedicated hardware and charge a subscription for one instead. That's the future they want for you and the reality is - large part of users will take it.
That doesn't quite work as you'll always have the latency issue with cloud and generally egress is expensive from the cloud. It's why cloud gaming is so hard to do.
@@sarjannarwan6896 Cloud gaming has been absolute dream for me via Shadow PC...but I will admit I am lucky enough to have a Gigabit connection which I assume is the only reason I am getting such a seamless experience.
@@ridethewavz I don't think it's so much your gigabit speeds. It's more likely a low latency/ping. Uploading input and downloading a single HD video stream would probably work fine on something lower than 20 megabit. Ping is king
Copilot is infant Skynet
Copilot is based on GPT and OpenAI, so OpenAI/GPT is infant Skynet.
Very interesting. Mr. Nadella has a good sense of humor. He's not the stiff suite and tie type. I'll check out the full interview.
Maybe MS should start by having a simple search bar that actually works first.
Linux, my old friend...
Bloatware bloatware bloatware, memory hogs, process hogs
I once saw a Windows display unit at a store with 12GB of RAM. 11.2 was being used with nothing apparently open. Surely, this isn't normal
@@avisprimey You are of course aware that Windows has smart memory management. It will use unused RAM to speed up software and background processes. There's no point in having the RAM unused really. People usually fail to understand this.
using 12gb of ram to do what you can as efficiently with 300mb. sound like burning 500 liter of fuel for a 10 minute drive @@rowaystarco
@@robertcarhiboux3164 This is a bizarre comparison. RAM can be used to speed up app/software launch when you need it. It's not wasting really, unless your RAM storage is somehow replenished with a gas tank..
but when your pc does nothing, you don't need to use all the ram, especially if apps are poorly coded and consumme way more than they should, and behave on a ssd slower than a 1990 app with 600times slower computer and old mechanical hard drive and way more functionnalities than the new one build on a mess of API wasting ressources.@@rowaystarco
The only way MAC outweighs Windows is, whatever feature mac offers they work seamlessly always and for years and years. Just that factor of reliability. if windows can do that, we're sold
How exactly the copilot+ pcs would outperform Apple Macbooks?Only because of the internal NPU/the edge?
Window's shell desktop is a disgrace to humanity. Their completely locked non-customizable taskbar is so bad it hurts my stomach.
This is why everyone is moving to Linux.
@@joshuahernandez-th6ov You're really just copy-pasting this comment everywhere, aren't you?
The Win 11 taskbar is pretty, but it is also pretty un-customizable vs even older versions of Windows and Linux. I love Linux Mint and it's applets especially cinnimenu
@@arcadeportal32 you see that's the enormous risk you take when you decide not to give the users the ability to customize, coz I find win 11 taskbar horrendous... my first impulse is try and delete it when I'm forced to use win 11 at the office... awful design...
Mostly something Linux users care about. My Windows 11 setup has a taskbar as clean and empty as possible. I just type to launch apps and that works great for me.
When the service is free, you're the product.
So when you buy a laptop and Microsoft Paint is free... are you the product for that service as well? If this CoPilot+ is running locally then it's not free per se.. you paid for it when you bought the laptop. That mantra about you being the product would only apply in a situation that requires Microsoft to continue financing the service after you bought the laptop.
It's not even free! Windows 11 license is still officially up to 199$, yet you get the worst "unpaid freemium software"-experience of all time! 🤣
And yes, you totally ARE the product! With Windows 11, Microsoft uses your computer to constantly advertise to you and mine your personal data to sell to other advertisers, more than you use your computer to do whatever you bought it for.
So by that logic, a person who uses linux mint is the product?
imgine showing ads from my laptop activities
like sites i visit, game i play, song i listen to and so on
even in incognito tab
If I'm not wrong, there is not similar to the one shown in the video activity log on Windows 10, which doesn't log as often as they are talking about here.
Can it add translations to a movie that doesn't have any?
Onedrive for business already supports captioning video recordings of meetings and whatever and Teams have live captioning of what people are saying in the meeting. With Copilot+ it seems they are moving this outside of Teams and enabling it for Zoom and other video call apps. It wouldn't surprise me if the feature could be used to translate and caption movies as well.
@@rowaystarco could I take a movie on youtube and get one drive for business to translate it?
@@Ding63 I'm not sure how it will react to copyrighted material.
Browser is a great name for a dog honestly
"He's got a point"
From a marketing perspective, CoPilot +PC doesn’t quite roll off the tongue very well. You’d think they could come up with something a bit more succinct.
Marketing or understanding basic marketing trends has never been Microsoft's strong suit
know the only question will be the windows run all programs without any problems with the new arm processor ?
I don't think he can say they have "beat Apple" because we don't event know what Apple has to show.
Or because we haven’t actually any of Microsoft’s laptops yet as they haven’t been released
Who is smarter? Satya or Sundar...
Without question, Satya!!
This is the best Linux promo I've seen in years
Great interview. Satya is a fantastic CEO.
linux time
I mean... I didn't really hear anything to get excited about here....
Recall sounds a lot like Apples Time Machine feature
what security is there to ensure Recall stays on my PC, on my edge, and not go out into the Cloud to be accessible by others?
Windows has been known to be super safe and secure. No issues with screen shots of everything you do being stored on your computer. 😊
Lol please add the /s 😂
@@jonathandawson3091 No need. It's impossible to be more sarcastic
This sounds like a privacy invigilation with extra steps
Great interview, the only thing I dislike about Microsoft's surface laptops is that they are plastic, unlike MacBook and MacBook Pro's which are Aluminum and much more durable. I had a Lenovo Ideapad that the screen hinges broke twice and I was very careful with it, the first time the hinge mount broke Lenovo replaced the case under warranty.
I suppose there's a need for all that search-ability? My question is, is it an option that you can get on your pc if you want it, or will you not have a choice?