Big 12 In It to Win It? (or Just Make $$$)

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 34

  • @justincredible27
    @justincredible27 4 місяці тому +1

    Ummm... UCF won the national championship in 2017 and are co national champions with Alabama. It's in the official NCAA record books 😉

  • @joeyfosterWVU
    @joeyfosterWVU 4 місяці тому +4

    You missed one thing with these numbers Mark, Tier 3 Rights in the Big 12 belong to the universities. So when you see a team getting 39 million you can add an additional usually 8-10 million on that for Tier 3...... The Big 12 is not out financially as much as people think I really believe that Yormark will do something to even all that up in the next several years.

    • @dariusrucker7854
      @dariusrucker7854 4 місяці тому

      This guy honestly seems to have a real anti-Big 12 bias.

    • @MarkRogersVOCFB
      @MarkRogersVOCFB  4 місяці тому

      Yormark is going to find $40M per school per year. Wrong.

    • @tarheel7406
      @tarheel7406 4 місяці тому

      To be fair, Tier 3 rights might not be that affected by the loss of TX/OK, since those games likely never dropped to the Tier 3 level since there is no BIG12 network or The CW equivalent.
      It's my understanding that each ACC member has to appear a minimum number of times on the ACCN and The CW. Such an arrangement was unlikely for the BIG12 with its current arrangement, but there may be something like that under the BIG12's new deal.

    • @wetblanket1977
      @wetblanket1977 3 місяці тому

      2011 OK St won a natty, 2017 UCF won a natty

  • @davidfloyd9134
    @davidfloyd9134 4 місяці тому +1

    Once the Acc is dead and the Big12 adds schools like: ND, UNC, Clemson, Miami, UVA, VT, Louisville & Pitt the Big12 is going to make a lot more

    • @tarheel7406
      @tarheel7406 4 місяці тому

      LOL... After what feasible chain of events ends with ND, UNC, CLEMSON, MIAMI, UVA or VATECH in the new BIG12?
      Delusional....

    • @MarkRogersVOCFB
      @MarkRogersVOCFB  4 місяці тому

      When that happens, if that happens, yes things will be different.

  • @tarheel7406
    @tarheel7406 4 місяці тому

    Mark... I can see easing back some to not be overly harsh on the BIG12, but still... Measured by the 4-team playoff and the Final Four over the past ~10 years, the BIG12 is now dead last in football (PAC is gone) and #3 in basketball. I do agree that men's basketball is the best path for the new BIG12 to brand and to retain some national relevance. The ACC will likely lose ground in basketball from depletion, and the SEC and B1G are currently #5 and #4 (respectively) in hoops per that same measurement:
    Football Playoff Appearances, 1st Rd Wins, Nattys (per Wiki 2015-2024)
    ACC: 8-4-2 (Includes 1 of 2 ND appearances)
    B12: 2-1-0 (Excludes OK; includes Cincy)
    B1G: 12-5-2 (Includes Oregon & Washington)
    PAC: 0-0-0 (Excludes Oregon & Washington)
    SEC: 17-10-6 (Includes OK & TEXAS)
    Final Four Appearances, 1st Rd Wins, Nattys (per Wiki 2015-2024. 2020 N/A)
    ACC: 9-5-3
    B12: 5-3-2 (Excludes OK; includes Houston)
    BIGEAST: 6-4-4
    SEC: 5-0-0 (Includes OK)
    B1G: 7-3-0 (Includes Oregon & UCLA)

  • @markwilliams9963
    @markwilliams9963 4 місяці тому

    Nah
    B10 and SEC a will get TV time and playoff berths ( look at who got the playoff spot between Bama ( one loss and not regarded as a strong SEC champ) and FSU who was undefeated
    Committee will favor B10 and SEC teams for playoff spots if things are close

  • @jongrove02
    @jongrove02 4 місяці тому +1

    The watered down products you referred to in the Big 12 (Iowa State and Texas Tech) has done more on the field then Indiana and Vanderbilt ever could.

    • @MarkRogersVOCFB
      @MarkRogersVOCFB  4 місяці тому +1

      Competitive sports results in bottom feeders in every league. It’s inevitable. Every league finishes with a .500 record.

    • @tarheel7406
      @tarheel7406 4 місяці тому

      "Ever could"?
      Comments like yours often remind me of a proverbial question... What does one call the person who finishes last in med school?
      A: Doctor

  • @davidfloyd9134
    @davidfloyd9134 4 місяці тому

    Best part is the big12 contract will come up for renewal 2x before the Acc contract ends

  • @fdsuperstar2547
    @fdsuperstar2547 4 місяці тому

    Why try for an undefeated season? Look how Florida St. was screwed last year.

  • @darealmvp2437
    @darealmvp2437 4 місяці тому

    Big 12 isn't doing a good job at either winning or making $$$ compared to their competitors.

  • @MisterDigDug
    @MisterDigDug 4 місяці тому +1

    Who pissed in your wheaties, Mark? Big12 won’t make as much, sure. Big12 won’t have has much viewership, sure. But there is no question competitively the Big12 competes on the field and court with those conferences. If you were the Big12 Commish, what fabulous words would you have for the media when sharing revenue #s?
    Take a shower and wash the arrogance off please. My words are harsh, perhaps a little crass, but it mirrors your take in this video.

    • @joeyfosterWVU
      @joeyfosterWVU 4 місяці тому +1

      Can't say I disagree with that!

    • @Mike-sp7zv
      @Mike-sp7zv 4 місяці тому

      On the field? No

    • @tarheel7406
      @tarheel7406 4 місяці тому

      If football could compete without Tier 1 revenue, the PAC wouldn't have scattered and the ACC wouldn't be in such distress.
      The effect on the Tier 1 consolidation on men's basketball is an open question.

    • @MisterDigDug
      @MisterDigDug 4 місяці тому

      @@Mike-sp7zv TCU 51 Michigan 45, Kansas 34 Illinois 23, Iowa St 10 Iowa 7, Oklahoma St 31 Tx A&M 23, BYU 38 Ark 31, TX Tech 42 Miss 25, K St 40 Missouri 12, K St 42 LSU 20. Just a few examples. Like I said they can compete.

    • @MarkRogersVOCFB
      @MarkRogersVOCFB  4 місяці тому

      And yet everything I stated was the truth.

  • @davidfloyd9134
    @davidfloyd9134 4 місяці тому

    Best part is the big12 contract will come up for renewal 2x before the Acc contract ends another anti big12 guy.

    • @tarheel7406
      @tarheel7406 4 місяці тому

      Or the worst part. Next round could easily be lower, especially for a Tier 2 like the BIG12.

  • @clintmoses957
    @clintmoses957 4 місяці тому

    💯

  • @davidfloyd9134
    @davidfloyd9134 4 місяці тому

    Texas & OU got $0 this year

    • @tarheel7406
      @tarheel7406 4 місяці тому

      Depending on how that was accounted for, that could mean that the per team numbers are artificially inflated.

    • @tarheel7406
      @tarheel7406 4 місяці тому

      To expand, if TX/OK got $0, that was a withholding for their exit fees, which means that the BIG12 distribution is inflated from a one-off increase.

  • @wetblanket1977
    @wetblanket1977 4 місяці тому

    We are in it, not to win, just to be here and maybe make some money. We are privileged just to be in your vicinity