@Ratonmone that would be amazing if the front ones are locked straight and the gearing/gearbox is basically backwards so it has all gears going back wards, then mount the front seat facing out the back window, along with a pedal box and steering wheel/rack and boom, cheaper rwd conversion ( super simplified as there'd be more to it and you might aswell do an actual rwd conversion in the time/effort that would take lol). They do out of the box things so i wouldn't be surprised if they pulled something like that off
Friend of mine had a FWD with a welded diff. I don't remember the exact car, but it was a little hatch back import that was used on a farm. There actually was a front diff cover, so the Lincoln locker install was pretty easy for the previous owner. They had also removed the rear hatch, deleted the rear seat and installed a plywood divider (made a tiny FWD pickup with a locked diff). It wasn't bad on dirt (had power steering), but was instantly un-driveable on pavement (that's when we found out about the locker). Since he didn't want to put a $700 diff in a $300 car we cut the intermediate shaft. Short mechanics lesson, in a FWD the trans-axle (transmission) is on one side, and the engine is on the other. If the CV (axle shafts) are different lengths the car will torque steer. So the intermediate shaft runs behind the engine, so the CVs are equal length. The CV stub also holds the wheel bearing together, so you can't delete them. We then put a sleeve on the intermediate shaft, and packed it with grease. Now thew car was one wheel drive instead of locked. Worked pretty good (unless it was raining). He drove that (crap) box for 3 years until he finished college. Burned some oil, so he never changed it (just topped off, no new filter). Overheated a time or two, refilled the radiator with whatever (usually flat soda). Scrapped it for $200 afterwards. Good buy.
In my youth I spent time at a place where we repaired brand new Lada's and fso stuff that didn't survive the journey over here (one pick up truck had the wrong cam fitted into the wrong head onto the wrong bottom end and had valve-crown contact so didn't even turn over but was still delivered to the UK!)so having driven plenty of these I can say that if you try cornering at more than 10 mph even in the dry it will feel like a welded diff anyway,sublime they are not!
True, the newer FWD Ladas aren't that great. The older ones (made during Soviet times) were apparently better, they still had a bit of Porsche DNA left in them. But then came the Russian Federation, the economy fell on rough times, and we saw a ton of cost cutting.
Yes, im from Torino, im a mechanic so i know well the fiat models who generate the first ladas, and here we use much the, niva for offroad and it is definetly not bad (if you check all the bolts before use the first time), the new models are junk
I broke a rear driveshaft on a 4x4 with a locked front diff and had to drive home just using the front wheel drive... VERY perilous on the highways!... The car pulled STRONGLY to the right on acceleration and STRONGLY to the left on deceleration... And in that zone where the vehicle speed closely matched the engine speed and the tension in the drivetrain alternated between slight tension and slight drag, the thing would wildly and unpredictably jerk from one side to the other... Not a lot of fun in a lifted Samurai with lots of body roll.
Reminded me of the old 1979 Toyota Crown 2.6 I had about 12yrs ago. Previous owner welded the diff, intent on using it off road. I used it as my daily driver in the city. Handle fine in the city, and had better grip/control on gravel. Man, I really miss that car now.....quite rare here in New Zealand.
@@AdriandeMorcerf yea ,that right. The front wheel will start making chirping noise,tire life will decrease and making wider turns but worst than rear wheel drive cars. Welded diff or 2.0way lsd are for off road and drag cars. The best lsd is for road use is 1.5way.
This video is older than the last one.. The videos posted on their English translated channel are not in the same order they're posted on their regular Russian channel.
Installed a limited slip diff in my 92 chevy 2wd pickup, its nice, but let me tell ya its so easy to get it to fish tail in winter compared to the factory rear end that was in it. The only issue I ran in to, My truck as 235/75/15 tires, one rear tire blew out so I installed my spare, a 235/70/15,of it wont make a difference I kept telling myself, but the rear end absolutely hates it. but pulling a trailer out of a muddy yard with a 2wd drive pick up with my neighbors thinking im going to get stuck, its satisfying lol.
This has got to be one of the Top Ne Kulturni Videos of AD 2020, there is such a thing as a Differential Lock, try that one next and get some super Grip Snow Tires / Chains..!
Looks like Ruined gearbox/car , but epic fun, welding a diff is a bad idea, but it's great fun to see, I had a lsd in my old car, I miss it, the lsd improved handling acceleration deceleration, made the car much safer to drive fast. This video was great to see.
In the early 00s it was very common at the Greek countryside to take old hatchbacks strip them off interior ect and welding the diff to be used almost like ATVs , for the fields or just for fun 😉
Best torque steer was on the very first MG Montego Turbo's, with a fixed rate PAS pump giving it juice on a bend straightened the steering up and you were fighting the PAS which has the engine power on its side or if you did manage to win the fight, the super pressure in the PAS would send you at speed across the road or into a ditch, they had to retro fit variable rate pumps as the lawsuits were a-piling up hehe It was lucky the Tickfords built MG Maestro's had variable PAS from the start as they were well more powerful than the Montego version.
so what % of extra steering can you get or lose with weld-diff vs un-welded vs tank-computer 💻controlled or manual mode for thar matter? on a normal road car like the mg or a RWD-car or 4x4-car
I can clearly see that you guys are a very skilled auto shop - can you show some of the high end projects you are working on or have completed - all the joke projects are awesome and why i come to your content - but show the world some of the other stuff you can do
@@Glenn7719 generally they do but they put detroit lockers in the diffs for when you get on the gas they lock but for rolling they unlock. Or people put air lockers in them
@@diarrhea_fart Im just saying, ive got an old 1989 Mazda 323 4x4 Turbo that has a diff lock button. Which basically does what i said, press it, locks all 4 wheels. Would get you out the shit if you're stuck, i think thats what it might have been made for. This is talking 30 odd year old tech. So nothing new really, just funny seeing a fwd car with a locked diff i suppose, which it is. :D
With the welded diff on that car it would be cool as hell if you had some kind of push button tire chains of some sort. Or like the motorcycle tire with all the screws in it, if you could have a regular tire for the street then when u hit the snow push a button and some sort of extra traction device goes on or out of the tires. Know what I mean? That would be awesome!! Paddle tires for the sand also do very well in the snow! That would be something to think about maybe?? Idk...
Lately, when I find myself getting a little lazy or slacking off, I just imagine the big guy saying "OK, let's do this!" and then a shitload of works gets done. Also, put a Lada on tank tracks.
Bramborail Frimp suprisingly it works really well for track racing too just not at low speeds. From what I’ve read if you apex the corners with it it’s just goes and goes lol
you should consider building a snow eating machine out of a front drive lada someday the kind that have rotating shovels inside and shoot the snow to the air
Won't this cause a lot of excess tire wear? I can understand temporarily locking the rear diff if it's really snowy or slippery, but to permanently weld it? During the summer you'd be chewing up your tires.
@@submariner144 Not really. Measure inputs from the pedal etc and write software on C++ driven by arduino to send signals emulating the pedal. Steering wheel is bit harder as you need hefty servo motor to move it, but pretty easy. After that you can put RC receiver and drive your 1:1 scale RC or make remote controller that takes input from another arduino again what gets its input from keyboard. You can also add cameras to make it FPV RC. Only hard part is the coding and whole project costs roughly 500€ top of the actual vehicle price.
This is like driving a motorcycle with a sidecar attached. It needs an insane amount of force to turn the steering and it likes to steer itself in different directions depending on if you are accelerating or slowing down. I have an IMZ-Ural and my shoulders are sore and palms are bruised after long rides.
Do a big lift on it with some military or off road type tires.. Think if it was taller it would have kept going no probs!!! .. BIG LIFT and OFFROAD TRUCK TIRES.. Fwd monster truck car
Place a second engine in the trunk and build a 4WD Samara.
And put chains on the tires
Hah I just commented something like that, then saw your post right after
@@steadfasttherenowned2460 yeah, I was about to say the same.. Great minds think alike... 😎
Add a transfer case.
@@oddballdynamics.9658 No, no, just two gas pedals replacing the brake pedal and dual connect the clutches to one pedal..
Garage 54 next week: "Drifting FWD Lada with welded differential in reverse".
That is possible
@Ratonmone that would be amazing if the front ones are locked straight and the gearing/gearbox is basically backwards so it has all gears going back wards, then mount the front seat facing out the back window, along with a pedal box and steering wheel/rack and boom, cheaper rwd conversion ( super simplified as there'd be more to it and you might aswell do an actual rwd conversion in the time/effort that would take lol). They do out of the box things so i wouldn't be surprised if they pulled something like that off
Jack it up in the air ground clearance
Friend of mine had a FWD with a welded diff.
I don't remember the exact car, but it was a little hatch back import that was used on a farm. There actually was a front diff cover, so the Lincoln locker install was pretty easy for the previous owner. They had also removed the rear hatch, deleted the rear seat and installed a plywood divider (made a tiny FWD pickup with a locked diff). It wasn't bad on dirt (had power steering), but was instantly un-driveable on pavement (that's when we found out about the locker). Since he didn't want to put a $700 diff in a $300 car we cut the intermediate shaft.
Short mechanics lesson, in a FWD the trans-axle (transmission) is on one side, and the engine is on the other. If the CV (axle shafts) are different lengths the car will torque steer. So the intermediate shaft runs behind the engine, so the CVs are equal length. The CV stub also holds the wheel bearing together, so you can't delete them.
We then put a sleeve on the intermediate shaft, and packed it with grease. Now thew car was one wheel drive instead of locked. Worked pretty good (unless it was raining). He drove that (crap) box for 3 years until he finished college. Burned some oil, so he never changed it (just topped off, no new filter). Overheated a time or two, refilled the radiator with whatever (usually flat soda). Scrapped it for $200 afterwards.
Good buy.
Engines that change the oil for you are underrated
Weld the diffs for a AWD car next... Seems interesting
Was thinking that then i realized 4x4 with locked diffs is the same thing
@@apachelives yup
@@apachelives not exactly, most AWD systems use some sort of center diff, fluid or clutch type
I'd be great if they weld awd volvos
European Cars: ESP, ABS; ASR
US Cars: ESP, ABS; ASR
Japanese Cars: ESP, ABS; ASR
Russian Cars modified at Garage54:
Imagine building a very successful career and company from lada antics . I'm always impressed.
Looks like they do more than that lol. They have a few legit race cars around the shop
In Autocross on gravel we are doing this for years it works really good on gravel with power steering
Try to remove the Fly wheel! Ultimate rev-machine!!
Lasse Discovers how will they disconnect the engine from trans without a clutch?
...as a next project use Lada to power that washing machine at 7:00 for some express washing...;-)
sharky322 good point, i think it would only work with an auto transmission, just weld the torque converter to the crank
@@sharky322i dont know. Weld it maybe?
they already cut off the counter weights on a crankshaft
Always excited to see another video! Keep going Garage 54! Love from 🇺🇸
6:05 Russian self-driving technology
tesla
This is the video I never knew I needed to see.
Honda owner?
In my youth I spent time at a place where we repaired brand new Lada's and fso stuff that didn't survive the journey over here (one pick up truck had the wrong cam fitted into the wrong head onto the wrong bottom end and had valve-crown contact so didn't even turn over but was still delivered to the UK!)so having driven plenty of these I can say that if you try cornering at more than 10 mph even in the dry it will feel like a welded diff anyway,sublime they are not!
True, the newer FWD Ladas aren't that great. The older ones (made during Soviet times) were apparently better, they still had a bit of Porsche DNA left in them. But then came the Russian Federation, the economy fell on rough times, and we saw a ton of cost cutting.
After the Soviet collapse lada sometimes sell cars with brake disk on one side and drum on the other(on the same axle)
Yes, im from Torino, im a mechanic so i know well the fiat models who generate the first ladas, and here we use much the, niva for offroad and it is definetly not bad (if you check all the bolts before use the first time), the new models are junk
i was gonna weld front diff... now i don't have to because you guys did it! thanks
Finally found the video I've been looking for.
6:00 PYCCKNN ABTOPILOT
:))
They need to out that in to the uaz-cybertruck
russky avtopilot
Awesome video! That's what Vermont looks like. Major snowstorm happening 2.7.2020
So you have snowstorms in July ? :)
@@matoatlantis no, February!
Only on Garage 54 😂 I love this channel!!
I broke a rear driveshaft on a 4x4 with a locked front diff and had to drive home just using the front wheel drive... VERY perilous on the highways!... The car pulled STRONGLY to the right on acceleration and STRONGLY to the left on deceleration... And in that zone where the vehicle speed closely matched the engine speed and the tension in the drivetrain alternated between slight tension and slight drag, the thing would wildly and unpredictably jerk from one side to the other... Not a lot of fun in a lifted Samurai with lots of body roll.
Reminded me of the old 1979 Toyota Crown 2.6 I had about 12yrs ago. Previous owner welded the diff, intent on using it off road. I used it as my daily driver in the city. Handle fine in the city, and had better grip/control on gravel. Man, I really miss that car now.....quite rare here in New Zealand.
You need to do this in the summer. I expect different results!!!
The tyres should have better grip and thus make turning the steering wheel harder, right?
@@AdriandeMorcerf yea ,that right.
The front wheel will start making chirping noise,tire life will decrease and making wider turns but worst than rear wheel drive cars.
Welded diff or 2.0way lsd are for off road and drag cars.
The best lsd is for road use is 1.5way.
rig up a car using a tank track style system
Try mounting second engine in the back and make 4x4 lada
Niva
@@magnumllama400 samara*
So you made it torque anti-steer! The more torque, the more it wants to go straight.
the paint from the last video already worn off =)
This video is older than the last one.. The videos posted on their English translated channel are not in the same order they're posted on their regular Russian channel.
wtmf80
R/wooosh
@@destruxandexploze2552 im gonna ss this
Always fun to watch your crazy antics.
I dig the 4WD 90's Toyota Ace van in the background
Those are terrifying when it's windy
"Up ahead I see... trouble."
I know the feeling, brother 😁
In the old days at the Greek countryside it was very common to see small hatchbacks with welded differentials been used like small jeeps or ATVs 😉
this is still common in rural north Wales
Carpet covered wheels for traction in the ice/snow..........PLEASE !
Try it in a front wheel drive car with power steering, anyways cool experiment 👍🏻🔥🤘🏻
6:11 this new Tesla car is awesome, it drives perfectly by itself
Best UA-cam channel... you guys are the best. Keep it up!
The best thing on UA-cam
Installed a limited slip diff in my 92 chevy 2wd pickup, its nice, but let me tell ya its so easy to get it to fish tail in winter compared to the factory rear end that was in it. The only issue I ran in to, My truck as 235/75/15 tires, one rear tire blew out so I installed my spare, a 235/70/15,of it wont make a difference I kept telling myself, but the rear end absolutely hates it. but pulling a trailer out of a muddy yard with a 2wd drive pick up with my neighbors thinking im going to get stuck, its satisfying lol.
It takes aLada effort to steer this car..
No
Please no
Yes
Please yes
This has got to be one of the Top Ne Kulturni Videos of AD 2020, there is such a thing as a Differential Lock, try that one next and get some super Grip Snow Tires / Chains..!
You know it needed a fluid change when it comes out that colour!
That is really impressive! Great winter beater.
Love your mechanical tests like this!
This is why there is something like limited slip differential lol
It is pretty epic that you tried to use a welded diff in an front wheel drive car.
Hi guys great videos. Can't wait for the next one. Lawrence from London
Garage 54 it's time to take that thing to an ice track no doubt it would be fun
Looks like Ruined gearbox/car , but epic fun, welding a diff is a bad idea, but it's great fun to see, I had a lsd in my old car, I miss it, the lsd improved handling acceleration deceleration, made the car much safer to drive fast.
This video was great to see.
In the early 00s it was very common at the Greek countryside to take old hatchbacks strip them off interior ect and welding the diff to be used almost like ATVs , for the fields or just for fun 😉
Best torque steer was on the very first MG Montego Turbo's, with a fixed rate PAS pump giving it juice on a bend straightened the steering up and you were fighting the PAS which has the engine power on its side or if you did manage to win the fight, the super pressure in the PAS would send you at speed across the road or into a ditch, they had to retro fit variable rate pumps as the lawsuits were a-piling up hehe It was lucky the Tickfords built MG Maestro's had variable PAS from the start as they were well more powerful than the Montego version.
so what % of extra steering can you get or lose with weld-diff vs un-welded vs tank-computer 💻controlled or manual mode for thar matter? on a normal road car like the mg or a RWD-car or 4x4-car
Snap Understeer? Imagine doing this to say.... a Taurus SHO. It would be very interesting on dry pavement in a turn to stomp it wide open mid-turn.
Let's recommend this to Cleetus and test it in his Freedom Factory
@@kirara4953 hell yeah brother
100% power understeer
That would be quite interesting. The sho already has torque steer from that rev happy v6.
Looks like a lada rust in that bad boy! And the welder is like a Russian jet; yes, a Mig!
The roads remind me of growing up in the czech republic.Дороги напоминают мне о взрослении в чехии.
I can clearly see that you guys are a very skilled auto shop - can you show some of the high end projects you are working on or have completed - all the joke projects are awesome and why i come to your content - but show the world some of the other stuff you can do
'make Your own path' -garage54 in feb 2020
my fav channel on youtube eva
I know people have done this when autocrossing, and have gained a few seconds, but the downside being it absolutely eating driveshafts/CV-joints.
This is gonna be my new workout plan. Welding the front diff on my car 😂
You will do well comrade, in the post apocalyptic world that is coming...Godspeed..
No seat belts were harmed during the recording of garage 54 episodes, thats for sure :)
Really love this channel xD i got an idea for next time. Put a bigger carburettor in it and a compressor just for fun xD
Отлично как всегда! Продолжайте вперёд!
Tell me about the orange car Vlad. Its looking rather dusty mu friend. Good video as always. Keep them comming guy.
When u going to work on the orange supra?
Platinum Gaming ikr
Its a prop, just a shell made of cardboard. :D
@@Glenn7719 are u serious?
its on hold maybe this summer theyll continue working on it
Best narrator ever.
well thats DIFFerent great vid.
a Welded FWD
would be like 4WD with all axles locked but the rear diff is broken 😂
Ever come across and old American iron over there in Russia? Love the channel!
You guys are crazy, but I love it. Also just a quick question: Are Lada Rivas expensive there?
Try a four-wheel-drive with lockers in both differentials❤️
Love your videos😎🇨🇦
Do not a lot of off road cars have a diff lock system, that locks both diffs so all 4 wheels turn at the same pace?
@@Glenn7719 generally they do but they put detroit lockers in the diffs for when you get on the gas they lock but for rolling they unlock. Or people put air lockers in them
@@diarrhea_fart Im just saying, ive got an old 1989 Mazda 323 4x4 Turbo that has a diff lock button. Which basically does what i said, press it, locks all 4 wheels. Would get you out the shit if you're stuck, i think thats what it might have been made for. This is talking 30 odd year old tech. So nothing new really, just funny seeing a fwd car with a locked diff i suppose, which it is. :D
@@Glenn7719 yeah
Man, this guy had a lotta Ladas.
The snap returns of the wheel reminds me of the Citroën CX DIRAVI.
Nice Escalade there in the back lot!
Apparently it belongs to Vlad.
With the welded diff on that car it would be cool as hell if you had some kind of push button tire chains of some sort. Or like the motorcycle tire with all the screws in it, if you could have a regular tire for the street then when u hit the snow push a button and some sort of extra traction device goes on or out of the tires. Know what I mean? That would be awesome!! Paddle tires for the sand also do very well in the snow! That would be something to think about maybe?? Idk...
Vlad: ДАВАЙ ДАВАЙ ДАВАЙ ДАВАЙ!!!
Translator: Come on now.
Lately, when I find myself getting a little lazy or slacking off, I just imagine the big guy saying "OK, let's do this!" and then a shitload of works gets done. Also, put a Lada on tank tracks.
You should get some Maxxis Bighorn style UTV tires and put on it. It will work even better.
Now put spikes Tyres on it.
this little lada goes further in deep snow than their self made 4X4 UAZ tesla truck xD
It's all about the little things that makes us guyz happy sometimes!
just sayin
You should weld the front and rear diffs on a Subaru or equal and see how it plows thru snow.
Hola buen video... Me gustaría que soldaran el diferencial de un 2105 y hacer un cardan recto para el mismo 2105...
Saludos desde Chile..
I would like to see a double stacked lada, with your friends riding on the top half, and you driving on the bottom.
Road to 1 million subcribers Keep Up!
Watching Lada get stuck in the snow is more interesting than Indy 500 🤣
Uncle Tonys Garage sent me😎
That car, the orange, is this real supra or lada 2107????😂 😂 😂 😂
This did better than the Tesla truck.
Is it me or was this car sprayed blue last video ?? 🤔
Another crackin video agen fellas
Love watchin ya vids 😮
@@noidontthinksolol ow well never mind lol
I just like to see what mad stuff they do next 😁
My channel is car related but in a difrent way
Dont yet seen , you dont use newer safety belts , when driven on the road, or ewerywhere ?
Does every lada come with a flimsy steering wheel?
Great vid ) This diff is great for racing. Dont know about the steering tho
Bramborail Frimp suprisingly it works really well for track racing too just not at low speeds. From what I’ve read if you apex the corners with it it’s just goes and goes lol
@@spacetoast4874 awesome , I know it can race, just didnt know if driver can steer it for hour of race.
Bramborail Frimp would definitely not be fun lol
you should consider building a snow eating machine out of a front drive lada someday
the kind that have rotating shovels inside and shoot the snow to the air
Won't this cause a lot of excess tire wear? I can understand temporarily locking the rear diff if it's really snowy or slippery, but to permanently weld it? During the summer you'd be chewing up your tires.
Next project: lada with 14 speed gearbox from a truck, please.
You should do a video where you remove the steering wheel and put a pc keyboard to control the car like in a video game!
An actual controller would probably be better for that
Possible, but it would be very expensive.
@@submariner144 Not really. Measure inputs from the pedal etc and write software on C++ driven by arduino to send signals emulating the pedal. Steering wheel is bit harder as you need hefty servo motor to move it, but pretty easy. After that you can put RC receiver and drive your 1:1 scale RC or make remote controller that takes input from another arduino again what gets its input from keyboard. You can also add cameras to make it FPV RC.
Only hard part is the coding and whole project costs roughly 500€ top of the actual vehicle price.
Maybe little electric motors to spin the wheel and an electric pump for the pedals?
Hellsong89 exactly! It’s just simple controls, so it should be very doable. Left, right, forward, backward and maybe hand brake on/off 😀
Better in snow than you previous Tesla cybertruck 🤣
Drive that thing for a while and you'll end up as strong as a fella that has to walk on his hands.
This is like driving a motorcycle with a sidecar attached. It needs an insane amount of force to turn the steering and it likes to steer itself in different directions depending on if you are accelerating or slowing down. I have an IMZ-Ural and my shoulders are sore and palms are bruised after long rides.
The year is 2046, the last Lada was just plucked off the streets in order to be in Garage 54's latest video.
Best tuning for lost weight... Korosion tuning -2kg every year
When you guys are going to put mirrors on the cyber?
Would love to see this on anything that isn't snow
Do a big lift on it with some military or off road type tires.. Think if it was taller it would have kept going no probs!!! .. BIG LIFT and OFFROAD TRUCK TIRES.. Fwd monster truck car
Like the weather!
Better off road capability’s then the cyber truck 😂