Synology DS923+ NAS... 12 Months Later - Still Worth it?
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Video Chapters
00:00 - $220,000 FOR SANDALS?!?
01:24 - What this video ISN'T
01:36 - Improved Pricing
03:00 - The Synology DS423+ Arrived...
03:31 - The Change of the Synology Bottom Tier
05:24 - Do People Still Want H/W Transcoding Support?
06:12 - DSM 7.2 and the DS923+ Embrasing it
07:50 - HDD Compatibility Updates?
10:12 - The Synology DS1522+ is just BETTER!!
11:01 - m.2 NVMe pool support is more common now
13:19 - 10GbE Upgrades... but anything else?
15:21 - Verdict - Should You Still Buy the DS923+?
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I have DS918+, and I am happy with it. Upgraded RAM, added 2 caching NVMEs, and upgraded LAN to 2.5gbit with USB adapter. And it has hardware transcoding.
What USB adapter did you use? Wanting to do the same with mine. Thanks!
I bought a 1522+ about 6 months ago, using many of your videos. And I love it. Best purchase this year.
Love your videos man!
Thx for the help in getting my NAS :)
Still got my 920+ & I dont think I will be upgrading anytime soon
Thanks for the video. Exactly what I was thinking about/ trying to choose. Synology is going downhill interms of everything I feel. I use a lot of synology for networking and Nas…
Here a 60 years old dutch dude :)
My old 415+died a couple off days ago I bought a DS923+ (black friday deal) home use for me its enough. My plexmedia is on it, but my plexserver runs on a debian system with a graphics card which does the encode jobs further I use it for my photo collection, and as a backup system . I mounted some shares for my proxmox server. For now I use link aggregation, but I would consider to buy a 10gb nic and put in a nvme voor read caching (proxmox server), time will learn if I need more ram
I will save up for the 1522+ as I have two j series NAS at this point and would like to consolidate them. I am a home user these units backup my HTPC and is acts as a second media server beyond the HTPC. The 2nd unit backs up my gaming PC. I also have an 8TB external HD that acts as a backup to the 1st NAS. My HTPC does all the transcoding for me before archival. This was a very good video I just wish I had more $$ to upgrade all at once.
So when is the next 5 bay version going to be released
Interesting review, I'm looking for a 4 bay NAS, previous was a Netgear 314, they dropped Cloudsync so bought a QNAP TVS-473A 5 months ago, major issues with disks dropping out. Backplane Mosfet failures well known about. So suggestions welcome.
I think it was a flop. They should’ve never released this unit with that processor, and all this compatible nonsense just turns people away from synology.
What would you recommend from synology?
I got a used 1520+ on eBay. Works great for my Plex server.
What are these work arounds mentioned for transcoding? I'm looking to buy my first NAS and I really wanted the 423+ for a multimedia server but unfortunately it didn't go on sale like I hoped for Black Friday. The 923+ did though and its at $480 on Newegg, Amazon, and BH Photos. I didn't want to do the 923+ because of it's supposed lack of transcoding but at that price, I'm considering it.
Saw now this solution (don't know if there's one better because i have a ds920+): ua-cam.com/video/nuIkV3ZCowE/v-deo.html
I got a 923+ and have to say it's excellent for me. I'm even running PLEX and while I know there is no hardware decode, it works fine for me there too. Very happy with my purchase. I did upgrade it tho to 16 GB Ram (3rd party - works fine) and to 400 GB Synology NVMe drives. Also have the 10GB network port that connects via a dedicated switch to my desktop. All in all I think it's an amazing NAS - love it.
Hi, could you tell me what 3rd party RAM you used? Cheers.
@@veteran35th SODIMM DDR4 8GB Kingston KSM26SES8/8MR x2 отлично работает уже 6 месяцев
I use dual 1TB ram chips. Overkill, but why not.
I think a 423+ would suit my home user needs, but want future proofing (10gbp connectivity) so this is the obvious choice.
Good video.
What are the media server workarounds that you're speaking of?
I'm still torn between the 1522+ and qnas 6 bay
You can add a cheap mini PC only for plex/jellyfin for example
Yeah I’m curious about this too
@@LucasFelixSPor play from a media device like AppleTV 4k or Nvidia Shield
I've been learning about NAS for days, with the idea of buying one, but after seeing the situation of all the products, none of them seem round enough to me, I'll probably wait or get a simple DAS
What should I buy? Thinking of finally replacing the 413j (3 drives, 4.71 TB out of 5.36 TB in use, 1 bay failed years ago). Family members use DS Video (phone app or browser, very slow to navigate) or Windows explorer (quite fast) to navigate device. Living room tv has an older Chromecast (need to upgrade to the newer model with Google tv, which is sitting on a shelf). Want to keep using WD Red Pro drives (buy new ones or keep these?). Thx!
we have ds923+ for 700 and ds1522+ for 1k, is it worth to invest 300CAD into the 1522 one?
I want to use this server to share photos and videos with the family. The videos are not movies just videos taken from a camera. Android and IPhone. Should i look for a model that has video transcoding or will this server be enough for that purpose. Im concerned about the video sharing the family would probably like to view the video before deciding to download it.
Thanks!
Thanks buddy! Hugely appreciate the support!
Wish you could still get older units from bigger retailers at cheaper price.... stuff like 920+ is everywhere out of stock or at the price of the current gen.... (UK)
Hi! I literally bought this device yesterday! I don't know much about compatibility and how it works. I saw an Ironwolf drive that has this model number on the compatibility list "ST10000VN000 - 3AK101" (it's the only 10TB drive from ironwolf in the list) and I am wondering if it is the same drive as the one that I'm wanting to buy. The one I want has this model number "ST10000VN0008". As you can see, almost all the numbers are the same, but this one has an "8" in the end, while the other one has "3AK101". Is it the same thing? Can I use this model even if it's not the same thing? And one thing I would like to know is: do the exos drives work on this device?
VN000 is the '21 Version of the VN008 ('18 Version).
Both will work the same. The list is just what Synology tested and approved. Other drives work fine too.
I use both Ironwolf & Exos. Just be sure to get the helium encased ones. They last 100X longer.
But is the 1522 faster than the 923 model?
i own an old synology ds415play and are currently looking at updating - it seems synology are trying to lock users into their environment like apple with enterprise drives and ssds that are artificially locked to their hardware. Instead I'm thinking of upraid, but the frustrating thing about DIY is a lack of mobo choice in ITX if you want a nice small form factor, and the cost of a nice build is close to a turnkey box anyway. You can buy cheap old servers, but they are super noisy and power hungry. When I add up all the costs, I'm basically so close to turnkey but have to build and manage the sucker which seems to defeat the whole purpose of NAS IMO. Maybe ZImacube is the way to go.
I am glad I went with the 1522+ the price allowed me to load it up with RAM and Cache NvMe... I just upgraded my LAN to 10GB.. so I am thinking I am set for some time to come.
I bought a DS920+ 2 years ago. Best purchase of my life.
I'm just sitting over here, getting great performance from my DS1520+ with 20GB RAM upgrade, dual Samsung 980 M.2's, and 5x Seagate EXOS drives. 🤷♂️
Hello:
A year ago we took your advice to buy a NAS for our small office. Unfortunately I don't know what we are doing wrong, but the NAS is excessively slow. We have connected it to the work network and everything is fine but there is no way to make it run faster. A 200Gb file takes all night on the internal network and I don't want to tell you about sending it online.
Please, do you have a guide on how to configure it correctly or something like that?
Any help would be welcome
Thanks
That does sound off. That file transfer (keeping in mind whether it's 1 giant 200GB file or an archive that totals 200GB), Tahat sound take around 30-40 minutes tops on a standard gigabit connection. It would like it could be 1) your Priority or service working against you on your managed switch 2) you are working with q bridging switch or vLAN in the middle that's poorly configured or 3) the network subnet, etc are poorly configured (maybe even 4, your browser is limiting /throttling uploads). Quick way to eliminate of its the network or the NAS! Safely power down the NAS, then move it next to a PC, then DIRECTLY connect the NAS and the PC with a network cable (nothing in between), then use the Synology assistant to find the NAS. Connect to it (the IP will have changed, likely to one starting 168) and then upload the file as normal. If it's faster, then you know it's the network. If it's still slow, it's the network/network adapter on the PC
its cpu benchmark score is so poor at only 3281, CPU's are not expensive I can't understand why Synology does not invest more in this area
Please do a follow up on the U-NAS case!!
Can I use Gen4 M.2 NVMe on the Synology DS923+ for caching?
Could you please recommend third party M.2 brand models that are not from Synology?
NVMe Samsung 970 EVO PLUS x2 работает отлично
@minaevilya Thanks, but the model you mentioned is gen3, and it's hard to find, which is why I'm asking about gen4.
for me the question now is... DS1522+.... Zima Cube Pro... or ... DIY... if you'd be able to compare the zima pro with ds1522+ would love to see it.
You pay Synology mainly for DSM Software. ZimaCube will have better performance in a similar formfactor. And DIY gives you full flexibility on the hardware side. Since those are very different categories, the direct comparison will not be as straight forward as it seems.
The comparison is between two fruits, an orange and apple. Anyway, still can talk about for what they are 🍻
I snagged DS923+ cheaper than 423+ in Newegg on Black Friday and it was a no brainer
What are these workarounds for media conversion? You cant just mention this without more details. The CPU for most is the single most pressing issue with Synology devices in general. So if there is a practical soltion that is not switching to QNAP let us know. Thanks
Saw now this solution (don't know if there's one better because i have a ds920+): ua-cam.com/video/nuIkV3ZCowE/v-deo.html
You can buy a mini PC like a NUC to run Plex. Bit of work involved though, often easier to have a NAS with a suitable CPU.
I've had mine in the office for 6+ months but I bought it as a backup unit for multiple PCs and VMs. I like ABB for this purpose. It also runs a handful of docker containers. That's all I ask of it so I haven't been disappointed. As an all around home NAS, this unit falls sadly short. As do the majority of their current offerings. There is no reason to get a Synology NAS for the home. Their proprietary nonsense with drives, ram and NVMEs is alarming to say the least. For a private company, they sure act like they are driven by shareholders. How about listening to at least part of your customer base? Other vendor's RAM works without error. Widen the compatibility list. Do the same with NVMEs. Throw in a Celeron. I'd buy that.
DS1522+ sounds better. Can you combine 4x 1gb ethernet for greater speeds?
Does Synology read these comments? Or just wait for sales of older units to fall before introducing a new (and improved?) product?
Synology knows that their products are cheap (good) but have low processing power, minimal network capability, etc. (bad).
Plug-in network cards address the 10 Gbe capability with a small price premium if the customer chooses. What do customers really want?
They're not cheap though. The DS923+ is $593 right now, compared to the Asustor AS7604T at $609, except the latter comes with 2.5 Gbps LAN standard, far better hardware compatibility, significantly more power, and Intel QuickSync.
I literally just bought a new 923+ from Amazon for $500. I also bought 3 16TB hard drives for $300 each. Very happy so far.
Just curious what currency you purchased this in, $500 seems very cheap! its $800 AUD in AUS.
@@certainlyJesse$500 USD. The Seagate 16TB drives were $300 each.
@@glickmpb Thanks! ended up picking it up myself. Looking forward to getting it all set up!
Would you go from a 920 to a 923 ?
Nope. No significant difference.
Have you (or any of you READER friends) purchased a used unit ever, and if Yes, what issues or complaints you faced, and what lesson learns you can share with me?"
Amazon USA is selling a used DS923+ for USD $473. I want to buy that because new one is $599, but not sure.
What and how should I check and which key electric components and features? I would have 15 days of full refund under Amazon prime coverage. Please suggest and help.
My use be only keeping photos, videos, documents and may set up 3 security cameras down the roads.
no matter how great synology makes their systems, they have ruined it for certain customers by purposely restricting what drives you can use and other proprietary accessories. not being able to add other non-seagate non-synology drives and other pettiness is a dealbreaker.
Time to show greednology we - the customer - don’t accept it.
I have a stack of WD 18TB Red Pro drives I want to put into a NAS however the DS923+ or more likely the DS1522+ but with them not being on Synology's "compatibility list" its forcing me to look elsewhere. 😞 They are shooting themselves in the foot in lost sales with all these drive limitations.
You missed the mark. If they aren’t listed on the incompatibility list then you’re likely fine. The compatibility list is just the hardware they’ve bought and tested. I’ve yet to have an issue with any proper storage drive that’s not listed as specifically incompatible. Never had an issue with Toshiba, seagate, or WD.
This vs Ugreen 4800+
The fact there has to be compatibility list at all for HDDs is ridiculous.. Basic nuance of the HDDs should be allowed and they should only focus on the stats or technology of the HDDs at general, not specific brand/model. This is just Vendor locking 101.
Not worth it. It’s a outdated product
10g network should have been standard and not $110 option
Pretty disappointed with my 923+ and am returning it. It's incredibly loud during drive activity (the chassis seems to be adept at amplifying drive noise) and CPU usage during Plex streaming *without transcoding happening* sits at 99% for no discernible reason, almost constantly. I thought the lack of HW transcode wouldn't be a big deal, but apparently it is. Synology really picked the worst possible CPU for this application.
Your prices seem a sniff higher than ours at 185 JPY/GBP
DS923+ 88009 yen (10G doofy is 25300)
DS423+ 65003 yen
DS1522+ 110000 yen
Ouch. I think I'll keep the 918+ a bit longer. It's not broken, I am not looking forward to having to replace it...
I will admit that my use of the "knicker" when discussing devices at "550-600" is less useful when discussing Yen!
Synology seems to be, slowly, trying to make their HDD's the only compatible solution storage, and with a higher price tag and 5400RPM (for home users) drives.
They can say what they want regarding to their HDD firmware being better, bla bla bla, but this is nothing more than monopolization!
I own the ds920+ and i don't need to upgrade but, when the time arrives, I'll see if Synology went on the ridiculous monopolization tactic. If so, probably i will go to an alternative.
LOL, no. A very apt comparison though tbh, in the sense that they're both utterly ridiculous.
One because, well it's someones worn out shoes.
And the other because, those troglodytes tried to market a dual core as superior to a quad core. On a device meant for multitasking no less. GTFO 😂
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troglodytes 😂
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stop saying "nicker" - nobody knows what that is ! LOL
Umm.. I think they do
I got my nickers in a twist over your comment.
Please don't pronounce "portfolio" as "port failure"; it sounds needlessly alarmist :)
What is the media server workarounds that you are talking about ????
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Not using transcoding (you shouldn't be transcoding inside your own home anyway, and not everyone shares it with people outside the home) or getting a mini PC with an Intel CPU and QuickSync to run your media server on separately, pretty much. You can try enabling hardware accelerated transcoding with an AMD CPU with integrated graphics as well, but I've heard mixed results.