Big thanks to all you do in this space! I bought my first NAS after watching a ton of your videos to help me choose. Once I get more comfortable with it, I'll be back to build one of my own with your help. Thanks again!
Keep in mind that most NAS uses HDD, and the read/write throughput is the real bottle neck rather than the Internet speed. If you use 5400 rpm HDD with
Just got mine set up with total 6GB RAM. First NAS I have and can easily say this one is waaaaay over powered for me. 😂 Barely hit 800 MB of RAM use, and never been above 12 % CPU usage. On the other hand it is wonderful how fast and responsive everything is. Love it so far! And might be hosting a website on it down the line. While for me personally not an issue, I agree with people here that it should have come with at least dual 2.5 gbit ports and Cat6 cables. All though dual gigabit wont be saturated even with RAID 0 when using HDD, it will become an issue if using SSDs in the enclosure. As this is a refresh of the DS220+, they should have given it that upgrade too. But again, for me personally I am very happy with mine.
The lack of 2.5GBe or anyway to add faster Ethernet connectivity is a total show stopper for this device. While it may be possible to hack in a 2.5GbE USB adapter why should we have to go to that effort? Totally bonkers in 2023.
@@revelationspy1 The 4-bays are also 1Gbps, but you get the option of spending an additional $150 on top of the cost of the Nas to add 10Gbps to it. Possibly triple the price of this.
Thank you so much for the review! It helped me greatly with my purchase decisions. I've been considering an upgrade. I've been using the DS220+ with 2GB (soldered) + 16GB Kingston RAM module, and it's been running smoothly. The CPU performance is impressive and there's a lot of memory to spare, even with Docker containers and additional apps. The only thing that bothers me is the 1Gbit limitation on its ethernet ports. I'm surprised that the new model is a downgrade from the previous one. It's unbelievable how much of a rip-off Synology can be. I'm currently considering another unofficial "extension" for my DS220+, specifically the USB 2.5 Gbit adapter (like the one you mentioned in the video). There are ways to make it work, so I'll give it a try.
HI there, I'm glad that i found your comment. Could you please specify that RAM module that you had luck using. How about that speed increase over USB module you mentioned?
Looking to buy my first NAS for home/personal use - should I get the DS224+ or DS723+? I know the DS723+ doesn't transcode but looking to Direct Play using Infuse (Jellyfin will be used for local metadata control only). NAS will be for storage backup for music files, digitised Vinyl, photography pictures and video to stream via Infuse at home.
Hey Guy, I have a question for you I trust your reviews and I do appreciate the time you take to let us know what is better or not on your experience with these items. here goes nothing: I want to purchase a Synology product but due to financial issues it's very hard for me and I need to make the right choice for what I need it for and I cannot afford to regret my decision. I will be using it to replace my slow-ass Drobo 5C and also for my Plex service and pics, documents, etc... I would appreciate any kind of information you can offer. I was looking into these two Synology 2-Bay DS223J Diskstation or Synology 2-Bay NAS DS223 or the Plus version. please help me out. thank you
I've got a 7 year old DS. Honestly nothing significant has come out to make me feel like it's even remotely worth spending money on an upgrade. Give me multi-gig without an expansion card and I'd likely upgrade right away. Heck that's why I clicked on this video... hoping for multi-gig.
Thank video was helpful. I now compare DS723+ and DS224+ and i relly comfuse new model DS224+ at my discretion is disapoiting for year 2023. And price not to different for choise this model. The only reason I hesitate buy DS723+ is CPU olny 2core. Whitch model you prefer today for NAS with 2 or 4 slot primary usage for data storage and multimedia center (photo) from synology actual my favorit is DS723+
I just bought the DS224+ along with two Toshiba MG09 18TB drives which are not on the support list, I also got the message that I'm using a not supported drive. But it works, it shows up at 16,4TB. So what could happen?!
Hello. I have a question. And I hope you can and will give me an answer to this. I can buy the Synology DS412 2nd hand. But this one still works. Will it still be recognized online in 2023
I just don't understand why people keep saying that 220+ or the new 224+ only support +4gb RAM when lots of people are using even the 220+ with +16gb Memory 🤔
The spec of J4125 is 8GB max. with a built in 2GB then you can add 4GB to have 6GB. It is the recommendation from the specs of CPU. However, these NAS can handle more RAM if you select the RAM correctly. So, that upgrade is not suitable for all available RAM
I was wondering the same. Nearly the same CPU (J4125 vs J4025?), so it should work with 18GB? I have a DS220+ with 18GB total (2+16GB) and dual 18TB drives. (I think it'd work fine with even larger.) I would've liked some superficial upgrades like bumping the base RAM to 4GB, for example. It doesn't feel like much of an upgrade from the DS220+, despite the two extra cores; closer to a re-release.
Why does this new NAS seem to be made with unused inventory. I can understand skipping a generation on the CPU the current Celerons are actually very powerful. I can understand the soldered memory because it saves cost during manufacturing, but they could have added a disable jumper to disable the onboard memory and let you add an 8GB modal.
Robbie, Robbie, ... , Robbie; I just don't know how much longer I can hold-out for the 8bay !DS1824+ or Bust! (my fingers are still crossed Synology & I'm getting clamp in'm ;).
Maybe. Depends on the RAM density, and whether Intel put any annoying limitations in place. Verdict still unclear. It worked on the J4025 in the DS 220+; I have one of those with 18GB running smoothly.
I have a dead and discontinued DS214Play. What can I replace it with so that my disks still work and data is accessible? I've seen loads of videos about replacing failing drives in Synology, but what happens when the hardware fails, and Synology doesn't support it anymore? If I get this one, the DS224+ can I put the drives from the DS214Play, and all is good? I would appreciate your guidance.
Sounds like that's probably related to your HDDs. Many current HDDs have a feature called PWL (Pre-emptive Wear Leveling) that forces a random seek every couple of seconds in order to avoid issues associated with the pivot arm remaining stationary in the same position over the platters for an extended period!
I can't believe that they support such fewer HDDs. Does this mean my MG10ACA20TE will not work? When I bought the HDDs last week I was only looking for max. capacity supported, which is 108TB per drive. I am not even sure if I want to order the 224+ anymore...
Hi! Great video series ! Please be so kind and let me know this: 1. Synology DS224+ with 2pcs Toshiba HDWG21EUZSVA 14TB - which RAID setting use to have continuous mirror copy on bouth of the hdd? 2. What if one of this hdd fail? - can I remove the secound hdd from NAS and use it in normal PC with SATA, to use/copy the data - and then buy a new hdd in place of the failure one - to put inside the NAS a new one and make RAID mirror copy again.
You don't remove the working HDD. You remove the broken one and install a new healthy one, which the NAS copies everything over to. It's using btrfs, so odds are that whatever machine you plug it into borks the filesystem. Don't do that. Only if you're a Linux guru. RAID-1 will do continuous mirroring.
@@patboy24 Ideal: Same specs / generation / etc. Second most ideal: Larger / faster / proper NAS drive with low timeout lengths, etc. (If performance characteristics differ, you may get odd delays / reduced performance.) Sub-optimal: Lower RPM / lower performance drives / desktop drives with 30s timeouts when they encounter bad sectors. (Usually causes array drops.) If putting a larger drive in it, you won't get any benefit until other drives are upgraded to larger capacities too. You could swap in one new large drive, allow it to rebuild, then swap in another larger drive, allow it to rebuild, then use the old smaller one that is still healthy to backup core data, or for some other purpose. Just throwing it out there. Matched drives often works best.
I am running a DS218+ and was thinking about going forward to a newer model like the DS224+, but seeing your review it made me doubt to make the step. On the DS218+ i am running some Docker images, they are somewhat memory hungry ... but to get it running more 'smooth' i first going to upgrade the RAM on my DS218+ and see what happens. Who knows the DS225+ will have the latest state of the art processor and connectivity speeds ... but then i ask myself ... do i need it looking at my current network storage system.
Synology is backing out of Print Server functionality, especially Apple’s AirPrint (iPhone and iPad printing to wired network printers) After 4 great years - Print Server no longer works. Synology does not intend to Fix. Looking for other solutions.
this stuff way to expensive for someone like me that just wants a media server on the network for Media . figured this technology would be more affordable by now .
You can just buy an external hdd, plug it into most routers and access it on many devices with something like VLC player. You just miss out on a lot of the features like meta data and a pretty graphical interface. It will just look like a standard file structure with text. But can work for really cheap. You could also do the share a drive on your pc and use VLC player the same. Or even run Jellyfin (a free plex alternative) off of a pc, it will just use more power than a NAS.
The Intel® UHD Graphics 600 iGPU in this NAS does NOT support AV-1 decoding, which is the future of streaming video (UA-cam is supporting and pushing the format). If you're looking for a long term solution, this may not be it.
Just ordered this with 6gb extra ddr ram and 2x WD red plus 3Gb. Dont need 2,5 Gb ethernet. Is my 1st NAS and need a proven platform. Don't care how dated the hardware is. It's not a fashion product for me.
Yes, I have the same opinion. It's the best option for me, good price for a synology and I need synology's ecosystem, intel cpu inside and ram can be expanded. It's perfect for me since I don't care about 2,5 gb and 2 bay are more than enough for my workflow.. Can you please recommend me a ram to buy that is compatible with DS224+?
Normal people do not get so deep into analysis when buying home server to keep their media from a phones or cameras. It only nerds and geeks do so, and they are a lot into numbers, speeds and efficiency and tech trends. You have to take their opinion with a grain of salt.
Great NAS if all you use it for is PLEX, storing DOCS and Photos
Big thanks to all you do in this space! I bought my first NAS after watching a ton of your videos to help me choose. Once I get more comfortable with it, I'll be back to build one of my own with your help. Thanks again!
Keep in mind that most NAS uses HDD, and the read/write throughput is the real bottle neck rather than the Internet speed. If you use 5400 rpm HDD with
Just got mine set up with total 6GB RAM. First NAS I have and can easily say this one is waaaaay over powered for me. 😂 Barely hit 800 MB of RAM use, and never been above 12 % CPU usage.
On the other hand it is wonderful how fast and responsive everything is. Love it so far! And might be hosting a website on it down the line.
While for me personally not an issue, I agree with people here that it should have come with at least dual 2.5 gbit ports and Cat6 cables. All though dual gigabit wont be saturated even with RAID 0 when using HDD, it will become an issue if using SSDs in the enclosure.
As this is a refresh of the DS220+, they should have given it that upgrade too.
But again, for me personally I am very happy with mine.
is it ok to use it without RAM?
@@patboy24 If you mean without adding any extra RAM, then yes. 2 GB 8s more than enough for normal use.
Love the Seagulls! It is cool knowing you are seaside!
The lack of 2.5GBe or anyway to add faster Ethernet connectivity is a total show stopper for this device. While it may be possible to hack in a 2.5GbE USB adapter why should we have to go to that effort? Totally bonkers in 2023.
Great now i feel like returning and getting a 4 bay. Jeesh. Rabbit hole for me
@@revelationspy1 The 4-bays are also 1Gbps, but you get the option of spending an additional $150 on top of the cost of the Nas to add 10Gbps to it. Possibly triple the price of this.
Hey can you recommend an alternative for the price?
I put 8GB on my DS220+ and it show 10GB total memory. Don't know if it works on dS224+
What is the best NAS for home user with only backing via Time Machine and maybe pictures? Thanks for the video and appreciate any feedback!
Thank you so much for the review! It helped me greatly with my purchase decisions. I've been considering an upgrade. I've been using the DS220+ with 2GB (soldered) + 16GB Kingston RAM module, and it's been running smoothly. The CPU performance is impressive and there's a lot of memory to spare, even with Docker containers and additional apps. The only thing that bothers me is the 1Gbit limitation on its ethernet ports. I'm surprised that the new model is a downgrade from the previous one. It's unbelievable how much of a rip-off Synology can be. I'm currently considering another unofficial "extension" for my DS220+, specifically the USB 2.5 Gbit adapter (like the one you mentioned in the video). There are ways to make it work, so I'll give it a try.
HI there, I'm glad that i found your comment. Could you please specify that RAM module that you had luck using. How about that speed increase over USB module you mentioned?
Synology DS224+ NAS 1080p & 4K Plex Test --- when ? )
Curious about operating 2-3 devices simultaneously + switching resolutions from 1080P to 360P.
I have a ds216+II and it handles up to 8 users streaming with transcoding. I use emby so I don't have experience with Plex.
@@redsai666 There is support for up to 8 users, but here's how it works in practice ..
Hello, could you tell me if this device its able to use x2 HDDs 18TBs each?Thank you!
What 2 bay, even old generation, are you suggesting to buy now?
Looking to buy my first NAS for home/personal use - should I get the DS224+ or DS723+? I know the DS723+ doesn't transcode but looking to Direct Play using Infuse (Jellyfin will be used for local metadata control only). NAS will be for storage backup for music files, digitised Vinyl, photography pictures and video to stream via Infuse at home.
I'm still using an old DS213j. I'm thinking of upgrading to this.
Is summer 2024 a good time to buy this NAS? I’m concerned it loses support shortly after purchasing. Thanks!
It's a entry level series, so I expect a few shortcomings. But to call it a 2024 with the well behind the times hardware is very disappointing .
I was just about to order this unit. I will wait for the next one. Perhaps wait until I fully move to 10Gb. Great video!!!
Great review! Thanks for posting it. What drives do you recommend I purchase for use as a Plex media server and Time Machine Backup?
Hey Guy, I have a question for you I trust your reviews and I do appreciate the time you take to let us know what is better or not on your experience with these items. here goes nothing: I want to purchase a Synology product but due to financial issues it's very hard for me and I need to make the right choice for what I need it for and I cannot afford to regret my decision. I will be using it to replace my slow-ass Drobo 5C and also for my Plex service and pics, documents, etc... I would appreciate any kind of information you can offer. I was looking into these two Synology 2-Bay DS223J Diskstation or Synology 2-Bay NAS DS223 or the Plus version. please help me out. thank you
I've got a 7 year old DS. Honestly nothing significant has come out to make me feel like it's even remotely worth spending money on an upgrade. Give me multi-gig without an expansion card and I'd likely upgrade right away. Heck that's why I clicked on this video... hoping for multi-gig.
Thank video was helpful. I now compare DS723+ and DS224+ and i relly comfuse new model DS224+ at my discretion is disapoiting for year 2023. And price not to different for choise this model. The only reason I hesitate buy DS723+ is CPU olny 2core. Whitch model you prefer today for NAS with 2 or 4 slot primary usage for data storage and multimedia center (photo) from synology actual my favorit is DS723+
I just bought the DS224+ along with two Toshiba MG09 18TB drives which are not on the support list, I also got the message that I'm using a not supported drive. But it works, it shows up at 16,4TB. So what could happen?!
No support from Synology if you run into issues with the drive.
Does it support smb?
Appears 24 release is step backwards (?)
Hello.
I have a question.
And I hope you can and will give me an answer to this.
I can buy the Synology DS412 2nd hand.
But this one still works.
Will it still be recognized online in 2023
Nice review like usually!
You have a great watch collection too!
I just don't understand why people keep saying that 220+ or the new 224+ only support +4gb RAM when lots of people are using even the 220+ with +16gb Memory 🤔
The spec of J4125 is 8GB max. with a built in 2GB then you can add 4GB to have 6GB. It is the recommendation from the specs of CPU. However, these NAS can handle more RAM if you select the RAM correctly. So, that upgrade is not suitable for all available RAM
I was wondering the same. Nearly the same CPU (J4125 vs J4025?), so it should work with 18GB? I have a DS220+ with 18GB total (2+16GB) and dual 18TB drives. (I think it'd work fine with even larger.) I would've liked some superficial upgrades like bumping the base RAM to 4GB, for example. It doesn't feel like much of an upgrade from the DS220+, despite the two extra cores; closer to a re-release.
Why does this new NAS seem to be made with unused inventory. I can understand skipping a generation on the CPU the current Celerons are actually very powerful. I can understand the soldered memory because it saves cost during manufacturing, but they could have added a disable jumper to disable the onboard memory and let you add an 8GB modal.
I agree.. it's like they are using up old, outdated hardware they have in stock.
Might be because it is better to run at dual-band 6 gb rather than 8 gb single band. Might be, but I dont know
A German channel ran some tests and confirmed that 16gb Crucial memory will work even though Synology says it’s capped at 4gb.
At 400EURs right now on the European scalpers...well, not that I will buy it even if was 300EURs, just for you to know the current price.
What are the best and least amounts of apps for this device for the novice user?
which 16rm i can install
Robbie, Robbie, ... , Robbie;
I just don't know how much longer I can hold-out for the 8bay !DS1824+ or Bust! (my fingers are still crossed Synology & I'm getting clamp in'm ;).
Can you slam a 16GB SODIMM into this alongside the soldered RAM?
No, it has a max of 6GB (2GB onboard, max 4GB SODIMM expansion). CPU only supports max 8GB (2 dimms)
Maybe. Depends on the RAM density, and whether Intel put any annoying limitations in place. Verdict still unclear. It worked on the J4025 in the DS 220+; I have one of those with 18GB running smoothly.
I have a dead and discontinued DS214Play. What can I replace it with so that my disks still work and data is accessible? I've seen loads of videos about replacing failing drives in Synology, but what happens when the hardware fails, and Synology doesn't support it anymore?
If I get this one, the DS224+ can I put the drives from the DS214Play, and all is good?
I would appreciate your guidance.
Does this work with 22TB drive?
Thank you for this review. You made me think this is not a good investment for me.
Hoping to see the Seagate firecuda 540 video soon
An idea how top stop the disk heads clicking every few seconds, its driving me bloddy nuts, to the point I might have to return it.
Sounds like that's probably related to your HDDs. Many current HDDs have a feature called PWL (Pre-emptive Wear Leveling) that forces a random seek every couple of seconds in order to avoid issues associated with the pivot arm remaining stationary in the same position over the platters for an extended period!
I can't believe that they support such fewer HDDs. Does this mean my MG10ACA20TE will not work? When I bought the HDDs last week I was only looking for max. capacity supported, which is 108TB per drive. I am not even sure if I want to order the 224+ anymore...
hi, it's not possible to add a 16go memory ram on this ds224+ ? , thanks
Can you use a DX517 expansion unit with the DS224+ like you could with the DS218+ ?
Hi! Great video series !
Please be so kind and let me know this:
1. Synology DS224+ with 2pcs Toshiba HDWG21EUZSVA 14TB - which RAID setting use to have continuous mirror copy on bouth of the hdd?
2. What if one of this hdd fail? - can I remove the secound hdd from NAS and use it in normal PC with SATA, to use/copy the data - and then buy a new hdd in place of the failure one - to put inside the NAS a new one and make RAID mirror copy again.
You don't remove the working HDD. You remove the broken one and install a new healthy one, which the NAS copies everything over to.
It's using btrfs, so odds are that whatever machine you plug it into borks the filesystem. Don't do that. Only if you're a Linux guru.
RAID-1 will do continuous mirroring.
Ok, Thx for reply!
@@BikeHelmetMk2 should the new hdd has the same capacity as the old and same specs or is it ok to use higher capacity for future upgrade?
@@patboy24 Ideal: Same specs / generation / etc.
Second most ideal: Larger / faster / proper NAS drive with low timeout lengths, etc. (If performance characteristics differ, you may get odd delays / reduced performance.)
Sub-optimal: Lower RPM / lower performance drives / desktop drives with 30s timeouts when they encounter bad sectors. (Usually causes array drops.)
If putting a larger drive in it, you won't get any benefit until other drives are upgraded to larger capacities too.
You could swap in one new large drive, allow it to rebuild, then swap in another larger drive, allow it to rebuild, then use the old smaller one that is still healthy to backup core data, or for some other purpose. Just throwing it out there. Matched drives often works best.
Thinking of buying my first NAS, considering this new release DS224+ is such disappointing, is there any good alternatives?
Asustor Drivestor 2 Pro (AS3302T)
Short review? 24 minutes bro... :)
I am running a DS218+ and was thinking about going forward to a newer model like the DS224+, but seeing your review it made me doubt to make the step. On the DS218+ i am running some Docker images, they are somewhat memory hungry ... but to get it running more 'smooth' i first going to upgrade the RAM on my DS218+ and see what happens. Who knows the DS225+ will have the latest state of the art processor and connectivity speeds ... but then i ask myself ... do i need it looking at my current network storage system.
upgrading ram on DS218+ is a no brainer for better performance
Great review. Thanks
Synology is backing out of Print Server functionality,
especially Apple’s AirPrint (iPhone and iPad printing to wired network printers)
After 4 great years - Print Server no longer works. Synology does not intend to Fix.
Looking for other solutions.
this stuff way to expensive for someone like me that just wants a media server on the network for Media . figured this technology would be more affordable by now .
You can just buy an external hdd, plug it into most routers and access it on many devices with something like VLC player. You just miss out on a lot of the features like meta data and a pretty graphical interface. It will just look like a standard file structure with text. But can work for really cheap. You could also do the share a drive on your pc and use VLC player the same. Or even run Jellyfin (a free plex alternative) off of a pc, it will just use more power than a NAS.
I don’t like that at all. Looks like a ds220+
The Intel® UHD Graphics 600 iGPU in this NAS does NOT support AV-1 decoding, which is the future of streaming video (UA-cam is supporting and pushing the format).
If you're looking for a long term solution, this may not be it.
I wonder if Synology is collecting those Celerons from recycled PCs
Bro!! What's happening in the upper Floor??? 🤣😋🤭
Was really hoping for some good news on the ethernet, but Synology is still putting out 1GBe devices... Swing and a miss.
Just ordered this with 6gb extra ddr ram and 2x WD red plus 3Gb. Dont need 2,5 Gb ethernet. Is my 1st NAS and need a proven platform. Don't care how dated the hardware is. It's not a fashion product for me.
Yes, I have the same opinion. It's the best option for me, good price for a synology and I need synology's ecosystem, intel cpu inside and ram can be expanded. It's perfect for me since I don't care about 2,5 gb and 2 bay are more than enough for my workflow.. Can you please recommend me a ram to buy that is compatible with DS224+?
@@hyperion6the company I bought the system installed the NAS 6GB RAM for me as well the brackets on the drives.
Normal people do not get so deep into analysis when buying home server to keep their media from a phones or cameras. It only nerds and geeks do so, and they are a lot into numbers, speeds and efficiency and tech trends. You have to take their opinion with a grain of salt.
Great, it's a DS720+. Another recycled product with a 4 year-old CPU 🙄
Synology is beyond pathetic across all ranges, at this point.
Thx, not going to buy it then
Synology = very old and expensive hardware. No way I will ever spend a dime on such a brand.
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Is this a review of the DS224+ or your Face?
NO
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At this price point I can build an older xeon or epyc based NAS server with 256gb RAM, 30+TB redundant storage and self host almost everything
yeah 241249gb of ram, 38537 xeons and 294184tb of data for 20usd!
No one care what you can build.