UNDISPUTED ON FS1 It is all depending on how you define what MVP is. If it is based on the best player of the best team in the league, it is KD. However, kd is now injured and he has so much controversial off season, he won't win. Therefore, the next in line is Kawhi - best player of the 2nd best team by a good margin. If it is based on the best player of the league, you may say the Marshmallow. However, after this Marshmallow has been exposed to try to buy a championship than competing, especially now he has the most stacked team with the highest payroll of all time and playing in the weak east. He has been disqualified for MVP race (Esp if we are disqualifying kd for the same reason for having too much talents). The next line is the best two way player in the 2nd best team. If it is based on the most impact player, it is Westbrook since he is having a historical triple double avg season (the last one is more than 50+ years ago) and also doing more with less especially the second player of the league kd left. However, due to the team record, he most likely won't win. Therefore, again, the next in line is Kawhi. Not only taking over the leadership role after TD retires, but his production has also been improved significantly while still playing elite defence. Most importantly, the spurs is winning. They also have a good chance of winning the best team record in the league. You may ask what about harden. Honesty, harden is irrelevant all year long. First of all, he has no D Esp comparing to kawhi. Even though he may not have any def awareness and iq, the worst part is that he has never been willing to commit any def. All he gives us excuses after excuses. Secondly, even though he may be known for his offence, he is not as great as he really is if you look at his beyond his inflated numbers. He has never been an efficient shooter (he gets his points via high volume, especially flopping for easy points - summer school league called him out for flopping). Even though he may be a decent passer, he is again getting assists via hogging the ball more than 90% of the time and dumping the ball to his shooters while playing under one of the best offensive system (d'antonio's). If he cannot get double digit assists, he should be sent back to D league. Lastly, everyone seems to bring rockets winning record as harden's main argument for the MVP race. But the problem with that argument is that the rockets are winning because of d'antonio and the team Esp after harden singlehandedly destroyed the whole team a year ago. Without d'antonio, rockets would be dysfunction like last year under harden's selfish isolation isolation and leadership. It is why rockets are building the team around d'antonio system rather than harden as harden is now simply a product of d'antonio system. However, even with the rockets record, spurs under Kawhi leadership is still much better, especially the last game Kawhi showed harden who is the real MVP. It is not just about putting up numbers. It is all about committing and doing it all in both ends of the floor. Therefore, if I need to choose a MVP for this season, it is Kawhi. It is not even debatable.
Golden Screen Warriors ppl say the heat was a superteam but check their bench.. and check bosh being 50% healthy and tell me that heat team is a superteam..
Billy Woods exactly. what Ray Allen isnt supposed to hit a 3 pointer? we never say Scottie saved MJ's legacy with his defense. Scottie plays defense thats what he does. Ray Allen hits 3's thats what he does. plus that was game 6. what happened game 7?
Skip, your tape is stuck. Been hearing the same stuff since 2013. What if LeBron had an actual team in 2007. What if he if didn't choke in 2011. What if Dwade and Bosh showed up in 2014. What if Kyrie and Love didn't get injured in 2015. All if if if's. I could say the same for Jordan. Stop hating dude, Skip the biggest Jordan hugger in the world.
Tbh Lebron getting 5 MVPs and matching Jordan wont really mean anything because we all know both Jordan and LBJ were really the MVP more times than they won it. The only MVPs LBJ didn't deserve since he won his first was KDs first and Stephs second
Kevin Goatrant for MVP #ItsStillFuckStephCurry Lebron didn't deserve it in Steph's first MVP either. Maybe Harden or Anthony Davis, but definitely not Lebron...
is that not truth? The greatest players never fail their teammates when they desperately need him in NBA Final, NOT EVEN ONCE! And LBJ? Sorry, he is the best player in the world now, but thats it.
kimi1982113 so your telling me kobe never failed his team... Jordan never failed his team.... kareem never failed his team.... wilt never failed his team..... or are you one of those people who say finals count. not making playoffs our getting bounced out before that is better. and your performance before the finals does not matter.
Chad Smith nobody does....they bash LBJ but make excuse for MJ... if it wasn't for them Michael Jordan gym shoes mfs wouldn't be talking about MJ like that....same as mfs forget Russell 11/13 finals....its the gym shoes
Because that shot didn't save Jordan's legacy lmao. MJ had his team leading 3-2 and literally set that play up. And was having a great series both times. Lebron was having a very mediocre series to that point, was down 3-2, and bricked the shot before and played no part in Ray Allen getting the shot off. Not comparable
LeBron is not going 100% for MVP. He is saving all his energy for the finals so he can matchup against the Warriors OR Spurs. MVP might be cool to get, but rings are more valuble to extend his legacy.
CHRISTIANABUSED It is all depending on how you define what MVP is. If it is based on the best player of the best team in the league, it is KD. However, kd is now injured and he has so much controversial off season, he won't win. Therefore, the next in line is Kawhi - best player of the 2nd best team by a good margin. If it is based on the best player of the league, you may say the Marshmallow. However, after this Marshmallow has been exposed to try to buy a championship than competing, especially now he has the most stacked team with the highest payroll of all time and playing in the weak east. He has been disqualified for MVP race (Esp if we are disqualifying kd for the same reason for having too much talents). The next line is the best two way player in the 2nd best team. If it is based on the most impact player, it is Westbrook since he is having a historical triple double avg season (the last one is more than 50+ years ago) and also doing more with less especially the second player of the league kd left. However, due to the team record, he most likely won't win. Therefore, again, the next in line is Kawhi. Not only taking over the leadership role after TD retires, but his production has also been improved significantly while still playing elite defence. Most importantly, the spurs is winning. They also have a good chance of winning the best team record in the league. You may ask what about harden. Honesty, harden is irrelevant all year long. First of all, he has no D Esp comparing to kawhi. Even though he may not have any def awareness and iq, the worst part is that he has never been willing to commit any def. All he gives us excuses after excuses. Secondly, even though he may be known for his offence, he is not as great as he really is if you look at his beyond his inflated numbers. He has never been an efficient shooter (he gets his points via high volume, especially flopping for easy points - summer school league called him out for flopping). Even though he may be a decent passer, he is again getting assists via hogging the ball more than 90% of the time and dumping the ball to his shooters while playing under one of the best offensive system (d'antonio's). If he cannot get double digit assists, he should be sent back to D league. Lastly, everyone seems to bring rockets winning record as harden's main argument for the MVP race. But the problem with that argument is that the rockets are winning because of d'antonio and the team Esp after harden singlehandedly destroyed the whole team a year ago. Without d'antonio, rockets would be dysfunction like last year under harden's selfish isolation isolation and leadership. It is why rockets are building the team around d'antonio system rather than harden as harden is now simply a product of d'antonio system. However, even with the rockets record, spurs under Kawhi leadership is still much better, especially the last game Kawhi showed harden who is the real MVP. It is not just about putting up numbers. It is all about committing and doing it all in both ends of the floor. Therefore, if I need to choose a MVP for this season, it is Kawhi. It is not even debatable.
the cavs 4-20 without lebron when hes off the real plus minus(how many points your team is better than when you are on and off the floor) shows that he leads the league. with or without kawhi the spurs are in the playoffs, westbrook hasnt won enough games along the fact that he pad his stats and james harden hasnt won enough
It's crazy how Skip can honestly hate Lebron... he's an obvious legend without a doubt you can't tell me different. People will miss that man when he retires. Don't understand why he always gets hated on.
Jared Hale he does not hate he accepts his greatness but he also realizes he is not the GOAT and he states why he is not the GOAT people (Lebrón fans) hate that
Skip, you really need to get some new material against Lebron. In 2013, Ray Allen hit a clutch shot in a 4th qtr that Lebron dominated, in a game where Lebron had a triple-double, and in a series where Lebron won FMVP. In 2016, Draymond was suspended for game 5, but played in games 3, 6 & 7 which were also Cavs victories. Kyrie also hit a game-winning shot in a 4th qtr that Lebron dominated, in a game where Lebron had a triple-double, in a series Lebron led both teams in Points, Rebounds, Assists, Steals, Blocks, and was the UNANIMOUS FMVP. If you want to play the "if" game, then don't ignore the fact that the Cavs likely win the 2015 Finals if Love/Kyrie didn't miss the series due to injury. And the Heat might have won the 2014 Finals against the Spurs if Lebron's teammates had showed up at all.
I've never seen a video where skip Bayless gives Lebron credit for anything. When Lebron scores 30,000 career points he'll say he's still not a scorer. When Lebron carries another team to the finals, he'll say something about how Kyrie is the next coming. Man, give the 3x Champion, 4x MVP, and one of the greatest to ever do it the respect that he has earned.
Love skip or hate him. This show is VERY entertaining. Him and Shannon have a tremendous amount of chemistry. Better then what Stephen A. ever was to Skip.
Its kind of crazy when you think about the fact that LeBron has been either in the finals or the east finals every year since he was 22!! plus playing in the all star game , the Olympics and in the Olympic trials and he still is in the running for mvp every year when he clearly doesn't even get serious until the post season starts ? that's greatness.
This feels like they're giving him an out for when he doesn't win it. "Oh he didn't care in the first place so it's fine he didn't win." No matter how many you have, why wouldn't you want the award?
I hate that everytime that Skip says Draymond got suspended in game 5, Shannon doesn't bring up that he played in game 6 and nobody except Draymond showed up in game 7. That would end the argument right then and there.
Correct me if I'm wrong. Miami was down 82-65 heading into the 4th Quarter. Lebron then proceeded to either score OR assist on every point responsible for to tie it 82-82. Without Lebron, Miami gets beat 20+ at home in game 6.
Shannon be killing Skip. Especially when he brung up Tom Brady. I was just waiting for him to say "what if Russell wouldn't have thrown that interception".
Skip, the Spurs were up 12 points at the start of the 4th in that Game 6. LeBron then scored or assisted on 20 straight points, got a huge block on Duncan, held both Ginobili and Parker scoreless and ultimately scored a 3 with seconds to go to close the difference to 2pts. Then Kawhi choked, and Ray hit the 3. Learn your history right...
Skip: "Calls Brady's team-mate the best kicker in Pro Football" (but won't call Ray Allen the greatest 3-point shooter in Pro Basketball) smdh Skip, just STOP IT
@5:32 "those aren't lucky plays...." really Skip?? Really? So now Ray Allen's shot is luck and not skill? Russell Wilson throwing on the 1 yard line isn't a lucky break for the Pats? Stop it Skieep!!!
His chasing GOAT status is the exact reason why he does actually care about MVP- Lebron is a smart dude who has a very good awareness of his basketball legacy. He knows he's chasing Jordan, and he knows that to match Jordan's legacy, he needs to rack up as many accomplishments as possible before he begins his inevitable decline from aging. He knows Jordan has 5 MVPs, and that he has 4. He'd love to tie Jordan. Why do you think that last year, when Steph won the award, he felt the need to make those comments about the true meaning of the word "valuable"? Why do you think that this year, when asked about MVP, he basically tried to prop himself up by telling everyone to look at his team's record with and without him? This is a guy who is chasing a ghost, and he knows that it's not just about rings- Jordan still beats him in a few other categories. I don't like the fact that he feels the need to overtly vouch for himself as opposed to being like Kawhi and just leaving it all on the court and letting the voters decide, but Kawhi has a rare personality like a Duncan and Dirk so it's tough to expect every superstar to be like that. When it comes to chasing Jordan, though, absolutely nothing wrong with that- he has every right to aim for the mountaintop. Whether he gets there or not remains to be seen (some will say he's already there, while others will say he can never get there- just ignore the fanboys on both sides).
I'm sorry but there are way too many people disrespecting lebron saying anyone in the NBA right now will end up better than him. There are a lot of players that are great, future hall of famers even u never really know 100% anything can happen...but stoooop it. Stop lying to yourselves... this is a once in a generation type of player... we knew since he came into the league he was gonna be phenomenal... respekkkkk the man por favor.
If he wanted it, he wouldn't sit games. He's all about body preparation hence why he's having his best season since 2012/2013. MVP's would be nice but he doesn't care if he doesn't win.
Smh Shannon Sharpe comparing Ray Allen's 3 to tie the game to Vinateri's kick to win the SB. If Allen misses that the Heat lose but if Vianteri's kick the game is still tied. Indoors 47 yd fg or a 3 from the corner with the finals on the line.
Skip is always saying "if ray allen didn't hit that shot then lebron would be 2-4 in the finals" but he never states "well if kevin love or kyrie alone wouldn't have been injured then lebron would be 4-3 in the finals". He always finds a way to twist things into his favor 😂👎🏾
Skip needs to get off that Ray Allen shot my gawd. Jordan had Paxton and Kerr make clutch shots. Kobe had Horry and fisher make some. The list goes on and on.
Can someone PLEASE explain to me why Skip Bayless doesnt like to give LeBron credit or why he doesnt like him as a player......or is this all something personal Skip has against LeBron as a person.
Since there is a debate between LeBron and Jordan on who is the Goat, then this clearly means they are either Equals or LeBron is the 2ND best to have ever played.
I don't understand how anyone can call a 3 point shot by Ray Allen a lucky play. Yes I have never heard Skip mention the Derrik Fisher .04 second shot as luck agains the Spurs. Oh yeah and Draymond had a terrible plus minus before getting suspended. He was making them worse in the finals.
It doesn't matter "if Ray Allen missed that shot" simply because they won the game and the series. That what-if doesn't exist, what does is that LeBron led the Heat in Game 7 and won the chip.
Will LeBron win MVP?
yes
he wont win but we all know hes the real mvp every year
No because Voters fatigue
the MVP is Hardens or Kawhis
UNDISPUTED ON FS1
It is all depending on how you define what MVP is.
If it is based on the best player of the best team in the league, it is KD. However, kd is now injured and he has so much controversial off season, he won't win. Therefore, the next in line is Kawhi - best player of the 2nd best team by a good margin.
If it is based on the best player of the league, you may say the Marshmallow. However, after this Marshmallow has been exposed to try to buy a championship than competing, especially now he has the most stacked team with the highest payroll of all time and playing in the weak east. He has been disqualified for MVP race (Esp if we are disqualifying kd for the same reason for having too much talents). The next line is the best two way player in the 2nd best team.
If it is based on the most impact player, it is Westbrook since he is having a historical triple double avg season (the last one is more than 50+ years ago) and also doing more with less especially the second player of the league kd left. However, due to the team record, he most likely won't win. Therefore, again, the next in line is Kawhi. Not only taking over the leadership role after TD retires, but his production has also been improved significantly while still playing elite defence. Most importantly, the spurs is winning. They also have a good chance of winning the best team record in the league.
You may ask what about harden. Honesty, harden is irrelevant all year long.
First of all, he has no D Esp comparing to kawhi. Even though he may not have any def awareness and iq, the worst part is that he has never been willing to commit any def. All he gives us excuses after excuses.
Secondly, even though he may be known for his offence, he is not as great as he really is if you look at his beyond his inflated numbers. He has never been an efficient shooter (he gets his points via high volume, especially flopping for easy points - summer school league called him out for flopping). Even though he may be a decent passer, he is again getting assists via hogging the ball more than 90% of the time and dumping the ball to his shooters while playing under one of the best offensive system (d'antonio's). If he cannot get double digit assists, he should be sent back to D league.
Lastly, everyone seems to bring rockets winning record as harden's main argument for the MVP race. But the problem with that argument is that the rockets are winning because of d'antonio and the team Esp after harden singlehandedly destroyed the whole team a year ago. Without d'antonio, rockets would be dysfunction like last year under harden's selfish isolation isolation and leadership. It is why rockets are building the team around d'antonio system rather than harden as harden is now simply a product of d'antonio system. However, even with the rockets record, spurs under Kawhi leadership is still much better, especially the last game Kawhi showed harden who is the real MVP. It is not just about putting up numbers. It is all about committing and doing it all in both ends of the floor.
Therefore, if I need to choose a MVP for this season, it is Kawhi. It is not even debatable.
james harden will
Skip: "The Ray Allen jump shot"
Shannon: "SKKKKKIIIIIPPPPP"
Brandon Caelum 😂😂😂
That's the whole show
Brandon Caelum SKKKKKEEEEEEEUUUUUUUPPPPPP
Chad Smith
why do we even bother watching when every episode is basically the same thing
The Flash 2024 its Entertainering af
getting tired of that ray allen argument. Ray is my fav player of all time, but he cant get to game 6 of finals that year without lebron...
David Kang and his shot would have been pointless if Lebron didn't make a clutch three before that possession
Extremely Underrated 1 exactly. Bron had like 16 points in the fourth quarter.
and ray Allen was too clutch when he had a thrilling 0 points in game 7
Golden Screen Warriors exactly
Golden Screen Warriors ppl say the heat was a superteam but check their bench.. and check bosh being 50% healthy and tell me that heat team is a superteam..
Can't lie Skip has been consitent with his lebron hate for years
The Viper Of Death well lebron definitely not flawless
"well that's just the best kicker making a kick"- skip. my response is "Ray Allen making that 3 is just the best shooter of all time making a shot"
Billy Woods exactly
Billy Woods exactly. what Ray Allen isnt supposed to hit a 3 pointer? we never say Scottie saved MJ's legacy with his defense. Scottie plays defense thats what he does. Ray Allen hits 3's thats what he does. plus that was game 6. what happened game 7?
Not the best shooter of all time chill kid
Cohen Bryant this dude named curry
Skip, your tape is stuck. Been hearing the same stuff since 2013. What if LeBron had an actual team in 2007. What if he if didn't choke in 2011. What if Dwade and Bosh showed up in 2014. What if Kyrie and Love didn't get injured in 2015. All if if if's. I could say the same for Jordan. Stop hating dude, Skip the biggest Jordan hugger in the world.
^ Typical hater, starts insulting people for speaking the truth. Your parents would be proud.
Mike Michaux faxxxx.. they would have won 2014 and 2015 if his team showed up or weren't injured. Both those arnt Lebrons fault
nothing but facts
Finally someone with the real facts. U sir deserve a cookie
Mike Michaux yup
Tbh Lebron getting 5 MVPs and matching Jordan wont really mean anything because we all know both Jordan and LBJ were really the MVP more times than they won it. The only MVPs LBJ didn't deserve since he won his first was KDs first and Stephs second
Kevin Goatrant for MVP #ItsStillFuckStephCurry your dumb lol
Kevin Goatrant for MVP #ItsStillFuckStephCurry W PURE FACTS
Kevin Goatrant for MVP #ItsStillFuckStephCurry Lebron didn't deserve it in Steph's first MVP either. Maybe Harden or Anthony Davis, but definitely not Lebron...
Harden deserved Currys first
W
"If it wasn't for Ray Allen...."
Stop it Skiiiieeeyyyyupppp!!
Outta Nowhere 😂😂😂
Outta Nowhere what about the three that Lebron made before that. If he would missed it. Ray Allen three would be useless
Extremely Underrated 1 Yeah I agree. I'm a LBJ fan. I just find it funny whenever Shannon says it 😂. "Skiiiipp stop playing!"
is that not truth? The greatest players never fail their teammates when they desperately need him in NBA Final, NOT EVEN ONCE! And LBJ? Sorry, he is the best player in the world now, but thats it.
kimi1982113 so your telling me kobe never failed his team... Jordan never failed his team.... kareem never failed his team.... wilt never failed his team.....
or are you one of those people who say finals count. not making playoffs our getting bounced out before that is better. and your performance before the finals does not matter.
Skip never mentions the shots that Steve Kerr and John Paxon hit that saved Jordan's legacy
Chad Smith nobody does....they bash LBJ but make excuse for MJ... if it wasn't for them Michael Jordan gym shoes mfs wouldn't be talking about MJ like that....same as mfs forget Russell 11/13 finals....its the gym shoes
Because that shot didn't save Jordan's legacy lmao. MJ had his team leading 3-2 and literally set that play up. And was having a great series both times. Lebron was having a very mediocre series to that point, was down 3-2, and bricked the shot before and played no part in Ray Allen getting the shot off. Not comparable
Ethiopian Pride without lebron the heat nor cavs would have even made the finals
Chad Smith that's what I'm saying
Ethiopian Pride Yet u leave out the 16 points LeBron made on his own including the 3 before that possession...
LeBron is not going 100% for MVP. He is saving all his energy for the finals so he can matchup against the Warriors OR Spurs.
MVP might be cool to get, but rings are more valuble to extend his legacy.
W only lebron hater thinkinf he care about mvp, if he cares why would he sit down 5 games
Cashew
Excuses
he's not the MVP anyway. Does Westbrook, Harden, Leonard have Kyrie on his team or anyone close no. Only guy who has the 2nd great scorer is KD.
CHRISTIANABUSED
It is all depending on how you define what MVP is.
If it is based on the best player of the best team in the league, it is KD. However, kd is now injured and he has so much controversial off season, he won't win. Therefore, the next in line is Kawhi - best player of the 2nd best team by a good margin.
If it is based on the best player of the league, you may say the Marshmallow. However, after this Marshmallow has been exposed to try to buy a championship than competing, especially now he has the most stacked team with the highest payroll of all time and playing in the weak east. He has been disqualified for MVP race (Esp if we are disqualifying kd for the same reason for having too much talents). The next line is the best two way player in the 2nd best team.
If it is based on the most impact player, it is Westbrook since he is having a historical triple double avg season (the last one is more than 50+ years ago) and also doing more with less especially the second player of the league kd left. However, due to the team record, he most likely won't win. Therefore, again, the next in line is Kawhi. Not only taking over the leadership role after TD retires, but his production has also been improved significantly while still playing elite defence. Most importantly, the spurs is winning. They also have a good chance of winning the best team record in the league.
You may ask what about harden. Honesty, harden is irrelevant all year long.
First of all, he has no D Esp comparing to kawhi. Even though he may not have any def awareness and iq, the worst part is that he has never been willing to commit any def. All he gives us excuses after excuses.
Secondly, even though he may be known for his offence, he is not as great as he really is if you look at his beyond his inflated numbers. He has never been an efficient shooter (he gets his points via high volume, especially flopping for easy points - summer school league called him out for flopping). Even though he may be a decent passer, he is again getting assists via hogging the ball more than 90% of the time and dumping the ball to his shooters while playing under one of the best offensive system (d'antonio's). If he cannot get double digit assists, he should be sent back to D league.
Lastly, everyone seems to bring rockets winning record as harden's main argument for the MVP race. But the problem with that argument is that the rockets are winning because of d'antonio and the team Esp after harden singlehandedly destroyed the whole team a year ago. Without d'antonio, rockets would be dysfunction like last year under harden's selfish isolation isolation and leadership. It is why rockets are building the team around d'antonio system rather than harden as harden is now simply a product of d'antonio system. However, even with the rockets record, spurs under Kawhi leadership is still much better, especially the last game Kawhi showed harden who is the real MVP. It is not just about putting up numbers. It is all about committing and doing it all in both ends of the floor.
Therefore, if I need to choose a MVP for this season, it is Kawhi. It is not even debatable.
the cavs 4-20 without lebron when hes off the real plus minus(how many points your team is better than when you are on and off the floor) shows that he leads the league. with or without kawhi the spurs are in the playoffs, westbrook hasnt won enough games along the fact that he pad his stats and james harden hasnt won enough
"The greatest kicker making a kick" What about the great 3pt shooter making a 3 pointer?
Skip is just doing this to act like a fool. Draw more people in the show. Classic Troll Bayless.
WestBeast's #1 Fan he is a fool no player in any sport cares about what he says
WestBeast's #1 Fan
Skip? Who is Skip? I only watch this for Shannon, the guy across from him is an idiot 😉
man when shannon laughed in the end i just died. Dude's a great debate partner.
Let's go SHANNON! Keep hitting him with the points.
It's crazy how Skip can honestly hate Lebron... he's an obvious legend without a doubt you can't tell me different. People will miss that man when he retires. Don't understand why he always gets hated on.
Jared Hale he does not hate he accepts his greatness but he also realizes he is not the GOAT and he states why he is not the GOAT people (Lebrón fans) hate that
Jared Hale #FactsOfLife
Has Skip ever talked about LeBron without talking about Ray Allen?
no
Without Lebron, the heat and the cavs would have not made the NBA finals again
Wayne Wayne Facts
I love the profesional back and forth smack talk... to each other's face but keeping it real..., SKIUUUP!!!
Skip Bayless' job description should be "troll" instead of sports reporter
if i recall paxson, kerr, and armstrong hit some pretty big threes down the stretch with jordan
Yoooo, that had to be the best comeback from Shannon at 5:40, skip can't dispute it, he just gotta change the subject
Skip, you really need to get some new material against Lebron. In 2013, Ray Allen hit a clutch shot in a 4th qtr that Lebron dominated, in a game where Lebron had a triple-double, and in a series where Lebron won FMVP. In 2016, Draymond was suspended for game 5, but played in games 3, 6 & 7 which were also Cavs victories. Kyrie also hit a game-winning shot in a 4th qtr that Lebron dominated, in a game where Lebron had a triple-double, in a series Lebron led both teams in Points, Rebounds, Assists, Steals, Blocks, and was the UNANIMOUS FMVP.
If you want to play the "if" game, then don't ignore the fact that the Cavs likely win the 2015 Finals if Love/Kyrie didn't miss the series due to injury. And the Heat might have won the 2014 Finals against the Spurs if Lebron's teammates had showed up at all.
Skip never mentions what LeBon did in game 7 to close out the Spurs. 37 points and 15 rebounds
Thank you
Chad Smith lol
Tbflakes haha
I've never seen a video where skip Bayless gives Lebron credit for anything.
When Lebron scores 30,000 career points he'll say he's still not a scorer.
When Lebron carries another team to the finals, he'll say something
about how Kyrie is the next coming.
Man, give the 3x Champion, 4x MVP,
and one of the greatest to ever do
it the respect that he has earned.
Sylvester McNutt III He calls him a good role model if that means anything.
Sylvester McNutt III
He says stuff like:
Best Passer
Best in game dunker
That's about it
Love skip or hate him. This show is VERY entertaining. Him and Shannon have a tremendous amount of chemistry. Better then what Stephen A. ever was to Skip.
LeBron wants a 4th ring more than a 5th MVP
ayoit legend facts
ayoit legend 100
Its kind of crazy when you think about the fact that LeBron has been either in the finals or the east finals every year since he was 22!! plus playing in the all star game , the Olympics and in the Olympic trials and he still is in the running for mvp every year when he clearly doesn't even get serious until the post season starts ? that's greatness.
Exactly
Kenny Jackson He lost in the second round in 2008 and 2010.
2 years out of 12 straight not bad
Or how about LeBron has never lost in 1st round since age 21.
skip blushes with joy
forget Joy Taylor
This feels like they're giving him an out for when he doesn't win it. "Oh he didn't care in the first place so it's fine he didn't win." No matter how many you have, why wouldn't you want the award?
I hate that everytime that Skip says Draymond got suspended in game 5, Shannon doesn't bring up that he played in game 6 and nobody except Draymond showed up in game 7. That would end the argument right then and there.
I've never heard skip talk once about lebron without bringing up that Ray Allen shot 😂
Skip taught me how to troll
Did he say this in an article or something?
I'd love to see an ESPN special at the end of Lebron's career with him having dinner with Skip...2 hours of passive aggressive banter between the two
STAWWWP IT SKEEEIIIUP 😂
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Miami was down 82-65 heading into the 4th Quarter. Lebron then proceeded to either score OR assist on every point responsible for to tie it 82-82. Without Lebron, Miami gets beat 20+ at home in game 6.
When you see Skip rocking side to side like that...you should know He's charging up 0:42
He wouldn't have made that "Look at my track record" statement if he legitimately didn't care
Shannon be killing Skip. Especially when he brung up Tom Brady. I was just waiting for him to say "what if Russell wouldn't have thrown that interception".
Shannon has me rolling all the time lol
I want to know what LeBron do to skip for all that hate? LOL
3:29 Bird, one of Skip's favorite of all time, only has THREE as well?!?!?! Such lasciviousness!
Skip Bayless is a prime example of someone who hates on someone just because they want to and because they want to
Skip, the Spurs were up 12 points at the start of the 4th in that Game 6. LeBron then scored or assisted on 20 straight points, got a huge block on Duncan, held both Ginobili and Parker scoreless and ultimately scored a 3 with seconds to go to close the difference to 2pts. Then Kawhi choked, and Ray hit the 3. Learn your history right...
I got the Cavs and Spurs for the Finals. I got Westbrook for the Leagues regular season Most Valuable Player. My L.A. Lakers getting stronger though.
Wilt chamberlain put up 50 and 25 in a season where everyone was putting up insane numbers🤔Interesting
Skip: "Calls Brady's team-mate the best kicker in Pro Football" (but won't call Ray Allen the greatest 3-point shooter in Pro Basketball) smdh Skip, just STOP IT
shannon got skip hard with that brady question
I hate when they bring up ifs that's holding something against someone that didn't happen it's just to hurt them
Shannon literally owns Skip every single take
Shannon: Lebrun cured cancer
Skip: Ray Allen carried it to the patients.
Shannon: skkkiieeeeeuuuuppp
@5:32 "those aren't lucky plays...." really Skip?? Really? So now Ray Allen's shot is luck and not skill? Russell Wilson throwing on the 1 yard line isn't a lucky break for the Pats? Stop it Skieep!!!
thats why he doesn't get injured cuz he doesn't push himself in seasons for a mere mvp.. he chases rings for the team not an mvp solo award
@ 3:30 Skip lookin like a snarling golem. lol
Skip "But The Ray Allen shot" Bayless
heres a challenge, can skip go a full show without mentioning ray allen shot, as if he wasn't a part of the team?
Shannon: how do you feel about the weather we're having ?
Skip: Ray Allen Saved Lebron's legacy
He doesn't care about MVP... He cares about GOAT
He needs to chase a time machine and go back in time and not have 4 finals losses then maybe he can be the goat
His chasing GOAT status is the exact reason why he does actually care about MVP- Lebron is a smart dude who has a very good awareness of his basketball legacy. He knows he's chasing Jordan, and he knows that to match Jordan's legacy, he needs to rack up as many accomplishments as possible before he begins his inevitable decline from aging. He knows Jordan has 5 MVPs, and that he has 4. He'd love to tie Jordan. Why do you think that last year, when Steph won the award, he felt the need to make those comments about the true meaning of the word "valuable"? Why do you think that this year, when asked about MVP, he basically tried to prop himself up by telling everyone to look at his team's record with and without him? This is a guy who is chasing a ghost, and he knows that it's not just about rings- Jordan still beats him in a few other categories. I don't like the fact that he feels the need to overtly vouch for himself as opposed to being like Kawhi and just leaving it all on the court and letting the voters decide, but Kawhi has a rare personality like a Duncan and Dirk so it's tough to expect every superstar to be like that. When it comes to chasing Jordan, though, absolutely nothing wrong with that- he has every right to aim for the mountaintop. Whether he gets there or not remains to be seen (some will say he's already there, while others will say he can never get there- just ignore the fanboys on both sides).
At this point he can't even make the argument he's better than Tim Duncan was at 32 (4-0 in the finals), much less "greatest of all time".
+Sad Jets Fan Take my ring again.
Your OG goat's legacy should never have been defined for trying to buy a championship than competing.
Skip is acting like Lebron is already retired, last time I checked he's still playing at the top of his game
This segment was too Funny. HAHAHA! :D
They love to bring up that Ray allen Shot but never bring up Steve Kerr's 3 that helped Win 2 of MJ's rings?
Shannon be sounding like my man Draymond at 1:30 - NOPE
5:49 has me dying
Kawahi Leonard just plays
LeBron just cries
If the Cavs finish with a worse record than San Antonio and Houston, I don't see how you give Lebron over Harden or Kawhi.
I'm sorry but there are way too many people disrespecting lebron saying anyone in the NBA right now will end up better than him. There are a lot of players that are great, future hall of famers even u never really know 100% anything can happen...but stoooop it. Stop lying to yourselves... this is a once in a generation type of player... we knew since he came into the league he was gonna be phenomenal... respekkkkk the man por favor.
If he wanted it, he wouldn't sit games. He's all about body preparation hence why he's having his best season since 2012/2013. MVP's would be nice but he doesn't care if he doesn't win.
Smh Shannon Sharpe comparing Ray Allen's 3 to tie the game to Vinateri's kick to win the SB. If Allen misses that the Heat lose but if Vianteri's kick the game is still tied. Indoors 47 yd fg or a 3 from the corner with the finals on the line.
5:22 this question shannon asks skip is the reason why I dont like skip. He made every excuse to get around this question
Skip...let me ask you a question 🤔
Skipp, be critical of LbJ , but stop hating.
206 SEA he stated facts plain and simple
7:23 OMFG lmfao
And IF Lebron James didn't get a 32-point triple double the HEAT wouldn't have won!
Skip is always saying "if ray allen didn't hit that shot then lebron would be 2-4 in the finals" but he never states "well if kevin love or kyrie alone wouldn't have been injured then lebron would be 4-3 in the finals". He always finds a way to twist things into his favor 😂👎🏾
SKKKIYEEEPPPP dude that was hilarious
Skip needs to get off that Ray Allen shot my gawd. Jordan had Paxton and Kerr make clutch shots. Kobe had Horry and fisher make some. The list goes on and on.
When Steph won it last year he cared enough to downplay the award when asked. Not taking anything away from him
Shannon got skip this time 😂🙏🏾
Definitely more entertaining than first take
Wonder what Bron did to skippy...his psychotic denial of the man's greatness is comical! lol
IF IT WASNT FOR RAY ALLEN IF IT WASNT FOR STEVE KERR ....
Do you remember Kawhi missing that free throw? Do you remember Manu missing two? blehhhh choked it away. 😱😱
the thing is ray allen did not miss
He wants a title and not an MVP. 4-4 and 4 MVPs sounds better than 3-5 with 5MVPs
C'mon Skip... you act like its sac religious to not take every shot. So what, Allen made the shot... like no other great didn't have help.
Can someone PLEASE explain to me why Skip Bayless doesnt like to give LeBron credit or why he doesnt like him as a player......or is this all something personal Skip has against LeBron as a person.
LeBron doesn't care about season MVP anymore. He was playing chill averaging 22ppg until they lost 4 times in a row.
Since there is a debate between LeBron and Jordan on who is the Goat, then this clearly means they are either Equals or LeBron is the 2ND best to have ever played.
100 years from now archeologists will discover the Skip Bayless memoirs. Inside these memoirs, Skip reveals he was LeBron's biggest fan.
I don't understand how anyone can call a 3 point shot by Ray Allen a lucky play. Yes I have never heard Skip mention the Derrik Fisher .04 second shot as luck agains the Spurs. Oh yeah and Draymond had a terrible plus minus before getting suspended. He was making them worse in the finals.
Skip always says lebron is the biggest stats stacker n now he's saying lebron doesn't go out every night tryna win the mvp but Westbrook is
Shannon: (saying if) IYYYEIIFFFF!
Skip is on point
What if John Paxon's shot came out or if Steve Kerr's shot came out? Skip hate Bron so much he contradicting his own argument.
7:41-Shannon's face...
Skip talking facts
we are talking about modern nba. not some 1960-70 ancient history.
how about kyrie and love being hurt in 2015 skip, he always seems to forget about that
Here's the difference:
LeBron loses: "I need more help."
Jordan loses: "I should've been better."
It doesn't matter "if Ray Allen missed that shot" simply because they won the game and the series. That what-if doesn't exist, what does is that LeBron led the Heat in Game 7 and won the chip.