Royal Stylist Wanted For MURDER: The Case of Jane Andrews
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Jane Andrews loved working for the Royal Family, so when she was suddenly fired by the Duchess of York, Sarah Ferguson, it turned her whole world upside down. Desperate to remain amongst the wealthy and powerful, she became obsessed with her rich boyfriend Tom Cressman, eventually murdering him when he wouldn’t propose.
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That cat better be a paid actor 😂
Edit: I’m sorry, THOSE cats. I didn’t watch the whole intro before commenting. 😭
You look like a fariy!!! So pretty! Love love love the color green on you
I Love watching ur videos Tysm for posting!!!!! You’re gorgeous btw!!!😊
When you said you'd been with them for half a decade made me realise how long I've been watching your videos
Hay chick I hope your OK and are healing well. You look so happy!
Love the new co-host in the background. Give Saturn a raise.
Edit: Pluto has entered and also deserves a raise.
Couldn't agree more. Well said!
I love this new addition to her videos I'm struggling not to cry from the overload of the cuteness
I keep having to rewind because I've been disracted by kitties 💀
TOTALLY AGREE!!!!❤❤❤
Came here to say that!!
The cats might just be deeply concerned by how much time their mum sits alone in a room talking to nobody.
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😂😂😂😂😂🎉🎉 Good one. Made me laugh!! 😂😂😂 🎉🎉
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There's no way my British Shorthair would watch from a distance. Her butt would be right in front of the camera😅
The realization that the queen doesn’t live there anymore was so real. I swear her death was so random cause I thought she was gonna live forever
Real long live the queen
I think everyone thought she would ❤
I know what you mean. I mean logically you know at some point she'd pass but I just never imagined a life where she wasn't Queen and it is jarring
I don't think she died the way it was said. I saw this queen greeting the new woman PM! Smiling hapily, then next day, this lady was dead. The Dr's called the family, why? If my mother was going,why would Charles not be there, why would they had to be called by Dr, who call the Dr. Curious
@@pastryshack551 Its not uncommon with people her age. Old people's health can very easily take the biggest turn overnight, it's not unheard of.
I lived through the 80's and just wanted to point out that Fergie was known for being a horrible dresser.
l thought that ..l wonder if Jane tried to tone down some of those puffed sleeves ... but l do love fergie ❤️
@larracassidylll according to this video Jane started working for Fergie shortly after the wedding. I remember all the articles on People magazine and other trash magazines calling her Frumpy. I would have never guessed she had a stylist. Even when she was young and pretty she dressed like an old frumpy lady. I figured that was just her style and she was clueless to fashion. I'm not sure what that says about Jane's abilities to style someone. Jane was probably a Yes person. Celebrities and rich people love surrounding themselves with yes people. Go along to get along. Usually Fergies daughters atleast are dressed nicely.
Jane became a BFF and possibly Fergie was not wanting to hurt her feelings by making comments or letting her go.
I’m an ‘80’s survivor too, and I remember the same. 🤣 Fergie was also known for “misbehaving” in public; she fidgeted a lot and made faces during long, boring events. 🤭
While we Americans LOVED (LOVE) Fergie’s warmth and humanity, I was disappointed to hear of her tendency to surround herself with questionable people and to get involved in suspicious activities, after her divorce.😊
Sarah Ferguson also managed to marry an extremely questionable person. Just another Royal hanger on, grifting from one and all including having Epstein paying off her debts.
How as a nation we haven’t got rid of them all I’ll never understand.
Just a quick take - Fergie brings immortal shame on the fam and immediately gets excommunicated. Yet Andrew’s nasty pedo behaviour was totally allowed and even protected. It would be laughable if it wasn’t so horrific.
Which is probably the reason why she is being invited back into the fold, she knows too much!
@@janetpendlebury6808yes absolutely! I remember a couple of years ago, there being rumours that Andrew and Fergie could get married again. You can’t testify against a spouse….
While I think he’s nasty and gross. Deserves punishment. He was removed from all royal things. But at the end of the day that’s still their family. And not like a normal family member just dumping them on his ass he has a big target on his back and most likely would be harmed. So I get why his mother kept him behind the doors safe. Cause at the end of the day that was his mother. But also he hasn’t been charged with anything.
I think they’re inviting her back in because they realize how poorly Andrew treated her. Also, there are now grandchildren involved, and I can see Sarah’s daughters saying that they want their children’s Grandmother with them on Christmas.
Rich and has a lot of power.
Please keep the kitties in the future videos, they can keep me sane while I listen to these, sometimes, horrifying stories! ❤
Exactly my thought!
I wish I could say the same but my dog won’t stop barking at the tv 😭
Amen to that lol
Yes! I second this. They're so adorable. ♥
Omg same! I love seeing the kitties. But I can't hear Eleanor over the barks and growls. @@javeishapowell6944
Oh dear Fergie was always criticized for her clothes. Now we know who was to blame. Lol
The police let that happen. They got a call from someone in a domestic dispute, who felt himself or his partner would get seriously hurt, and couldn’t say any more because his partner was staring at him. They ignored this and let the violence play out. If they had done something he might still be alive.
when you said fergie i was like FROM THE BLACK EYED PEAS???? And then i had the biggest disappointment of my life 😔
lol same here
Honestly 😂
You must be American
@@amandar5723 I'm not american but i also think of Fergie the singer when i hear that name.😂
@@amandar5723 ahahahahaha im portuguese
32:38 hearing "toes sucked" was not anything i was prepared for and i cannot stop laughing
That was a huge story at the time even here in the USA...it's crazy how somethings catch on and won't die down.
I was not ready, I was drinking coffee when I got to that part 💀
@@lauuu__ri431 clearly you guys are young'ns. The 1980's and 1990's were an INSANE 😂 TIME!!!!!
@@miriamhavard7621I'm 30 😭
Yikes! Fergie was one of the worst dressed women on the planet! 😂
You’re exactly right about bpd. I finally got diagnosed last September at 19 and it was like a weight lifted off my shoulders. Everyone made me feel (or told me I was) crazy and emotional and sensitive. When my ex (favourite person) dumped me I genuinely didn’t want to exist anymore. Ive been mourning him for two years and he’s not even dead. It’s truly so hard to live with and I wish it was talked about more
I'm really sorry. I recently had to cut off one of my closest friendships. I'm not sure if my friend had BPD but they exhibited a lot of the symptoms. I really wish it was spoken about more and given the time of day it needs to know how to approach someone who has it. It just became toxic for the both of us as much as I wanted to stay friends. :/
@@aangelkinsplaylists6567 Yeah it’s a really difficult position being friends with someone with BPD especially if they haven’t been diagnosed. I ruined so many relationships because I didn’t know there was something “wrong” with me. I hope you find happy, caring relationships and that one day maybe your friend will seek the help they need and return to your life informed and aware of their past actions. Now that I know I have this, I am able to explain the disorder to people I meet right away so that when problems come up, we are prepared and it is less stressful for both of us. I’m glad you are taking care of yourself without holding any animosity towards her.
Have you watched the series crazy ex girlfriend. It is handled well there
Yes I have the same also, you're not alone. It's always stopped me from being the person I want to be. It's the worst feeling to 'need' someone who doesn't want you anymore. I promise it gets easier though and you get less attached to people as you go xx
I've been wanting to be tested for it for AGES but I've been told you have to do so much background stuff. Like journalling and writing down symptoms as they happen
It’s crazy because when I was 16 I did the same thing with pills. Trying to take my life. And they knew. They just watched my breathing to make sure I didn’t actually die. Didn’t take me to the hospital or anything. Knowing I was trying to kill myself. And the next day acted like it didn’t happen. And never talked about it again. Idk how ppl can watch their kids like that and not get help.
Wtffff😮 are u ok girl x
Did you ever try it again after that?
Same I tried three different times
I'm so sorry. I hope things have gotten better.
Denial..
Cackled at "that's where the Queen lives..well not anymore" 😂
Eleanor Jane Andrews was never married she was due.ped by her lover so she killed him because he didn't want her
Wait! Isn't Camilla the Queen Consort or something like that?
@@rhondaallan4680 It's all part of the scam, if you look back it was promised she'd never be called the Queen to make it acceptable for them to marry and not break the "traditional" rules, now they just say she is the queen like we all forgot and it seems most have. If we are not following the tradition then there is no justification of the monarchy and we should be a republic, if we are following tradition then Chuck is not our King, it's King Edward IX and Queen Sophie.
Nobody thinks of Camilla at the mention of the word queen,we still think of Elizabeth
“And she just never f’ing returned” I laughed out loud
Jane Andrews had fucking escaped!" *paraphrased
I enjoyed listening to you, liked the way you tell a story, it was very informative & hilarious. Ź
"Toe sucking pictures" had me doubled over 😂😂
No I was literally in tears laughing I had to stop the video
The worst part is that it’s true 😂😂 The pictures were epic 😂
The scream I scrumpt 😭 I didn’t see that coming at all
“When her husband refused to propose to her when she wanted” ummmm what? How does that work? 🙄😂🤣
Do you see why dating these days is scary.... I'm a girl and this even scares me...
@@diamondcascadeblackspring7260this was the nineties. Not these days
@@diamondcascadeblackspring7260 I think the commenter is talking about the fact that Eleanor used the word "husband". As in, they're already married so he doesn't need to propose? I also was confused by it. No need to go all "women are crazy"
It's probably for the best that Andrew saw his daughters so little.
Also ridiculous how upset the royals and royalists get at everyone BUT Andrew.
Yes, even Harry and Meghan. They say very little about Andrew compared to the hate they spew on all the other family members, same with their followers.
King Charles isn’t fool by Andrew at all!
Everyone acting as if Andrew effing kids, the girls on the island literally can fool you as full grown women and Andrew believed so. Nowadays there are 12 yo girls looking college age. There's already discussion on this new generation looking much older than they should.
@@kyleanuar9090 This isn't the take you think it is...
@@kyleanuar9090 Exactly they were not children, and that Andrews women was no saint, her family knew exactly what was going on.
I begged my mom for a sewing machine at the age of 10. I got one for Christmas that year. I still have it today. I wanted one because my mom sewed my whole childhood. She was born in the 60s and I was born in the 80s. I hope there are still younger generations begging their parents for sewing machines. It really is a fantastic skill and hobby.
Born early 2000s and had a pretty similar experience. Both my grandmas sewed and I adored the idea of being able to sew my own clothes or bags or quilts. My grandma and mom bought me a machine for Christmas probably around 10 as well and I still have and use it ❤️
My daughter had one at 14 .. she loves altering her shop bought clothes ! Usually making things shorter😂
I’m interested in making clothing rn as well,but I have to learn sewing first which I plan on taking classes for that.
One of my friends did the same! She sews her own clothes and they look amazing, let me tell you. And she wears literal custom-made things that no one else has!
Born mid 90's and got my own sewing machine at 10! Used my grandma's before then - and I still sew today, have sold my creations and even sew my own clothes now! It's a great skill and rewarding hobby to have
I looked her up online. It says she got out of jail in 2019, & she was terrified about a program the was coming out about her, in 2021.
Interestingly, I see Fergie had another female assistant who was murdered by her husband, in Texas!
OMG!!!
ok but the kitties, the green vibe and ur fit is EVERYTHINGGGGG
thank you for respectfully talking about the traits of BPD, its rare to see a public figure speak on it without demonizing it and it seems like you’ve done some real research on BPD spaces instead of psych papers. Im truly grateful
I second that❤
i third that❤
It's disgusting how people with bpd are treated and stigmatised against in the UK! When I was a nursing student I saw how the nurses talked about service users with bpd behind their backs. They are absolutely demonised and the diagnosis itself is thrown around all too often too. I was even misdiagnosed with bpd as a young woman with tats and piercings because of the way I looked (spoiler alert, it was autism). If you look or present a certain way, you're labelled with it and then stigmatised against in the NHS. Vile. So glad Eleanor did research in bpd spaces instead of journal articles.
@@am5783 unfortunately its worldwide. Everywhere in the world, ppl with BPD are seen as evil manipulators even amongst mental health professionals. Its incredibly hard to find a trustworthy provider
Although.. it’s literally a spectrum like any condition. I have BPD and I don’t have a favourite person. I also don’t get jealous, not controlling etc.. there are levels to it and what people present with the disorder isn’t text book.
Pluto in the back playing with the ball on a string 😂
Glad I'm not the only one who chews on my ass for a straight, uninterrupted hour.
If shes fading in and out of consciousness she's not going to even be in the right mind to warn her mother about what happened. But a mother seeing her daughter in that state and choose to leave her be? That's another level
What a sad little life, Jane
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I don't think I've ever heard someone speaking about BPD with such fairness and knowledge. Hearing you describe it realizing the absolute research it takes to find those things out, you did absolutely perfect, and it truly does mean something when you've done so much research to make it as accurate as possible. I appreciate you taking so much time into the small details.
As someone with bpd I couldn't agree more, its usually talked about as the whole reason for someone being evil but we aren't all horrible 😅
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed! It always feels good to see BPD talked about in a sympathetic, understanding light. It's hell to live with and we're all just people too, not monsters
@@therainbowhippysame, totally agree! It’s nice to see someone actually taking the time to understand
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@@carla6558 That must have been so hard. It's not your fault though, something mentally was going on that you were unaware of, it was not your responsibility as her child to help nurture her, that was her own doing. Forgiveness takes a lot of time, if not forever. But trying to forgive actions that have no explanation behind them is something that's much harder. I'm sure finding out your mother had something actually going on was somewhat of a "relief". I'm so glad you were able to find the forgiveness in your heart. Even though she had her own medical "reasons" it's still so hard to understand it from an outside perspective because you don't understand how the brain works the way hers does. It's hard to reason with certain things when you don't understand and that is not your fault. I'm glad eventually you were able to repair the relationship, but at the end of the day with some people their behavior cannot be bypassed with a label of mental issues but I'm glad you were able to eventually to the best of your availability try to move past it.
Eleanor: Jane Andrews was a small town girl.
Me to myself: Do not sing the rest!!
Lmfao! Same 😭
so i’m not the only one 😭
Living in a lonely woooorld
I was singing along as well
Never held my breath harder
Learning basic sewing skills is so important! I taught myself how to sew by hand as a kid, after watching my mom doing it and sneaking into her kits and practicing, and it has been so useful in my life. I've been able to fix sooo many items of clothing that would otherwise have to be thrown out, for myself and other people. Now when I go thrifting I'll still buy something if there's frays or rips if it looks fixable, or if there's a part of it that I don't like that I know that I can easily remove or alter. I highly recommend learning how to hand sew.
We make dance and pageant costumes and the amount of people that can't sew on a snap fastening is absolutely shocking! We say "oh it's just like sewing on a button", they can't do that either 😅
This case has genuinely kept me up until 4am, the way you described BPD was genuinely the most accurate description i’ve ever heard of. I was diagnosed with the quieter version of BPD, (i would never hurt animals or try to murder a human being), but the way you described the way jane felt made me just understand the thought processes behind her, don’t understand the murdering part, but just the way she attached to strongly onto people and then felt like her life ended when they left, touched me. This is by far my favourite video of yours. And to all the people out there with BPD, there is hope for us that we can grow out of this ☺️
I haven’t been diagnosed with BPD and I’m not gonna say that I have it but this video really opened my eyes because I have such similar traits with her (except the murder part) idk what I’m trying to say but was there like anything else you saw before you got diagnosed yhat could be signs? I know this is a little weird lol but I’ve always struggled with how to make word of how I feel but Eleanor described how I feel perfectly
Honestly, I was so engrossed by the way you told the Fergie / royal family side of things, I completely forgot someone was going to die for this to be one of your videos 😂 also a shock when the actual criminal part started 😅
I mean the toe sucking is a kink for some people, but are we forgetting Charles and Camilla scandalous phonecall conversation where he talks about how he would love to be his tampon? 😂
Me too 😂 I started watching it last eeek and got halfway through, had to shut it off bc I got busy then just remembered to finish it right now. I forgot it wasn’t about the royal family but a murder case 😂
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Exactly what happened to me. The only thing I can't swallow is a man not being able to remove a bat from a woman's hands. In my mind, he was sleeping in order for her to get so many blows in.
@@missmissy_90 that's a good theory, although I could see the possibility of her getting a good couple swings in before he could react. Does seem v possible that he was asleep or even just had his back turned tho
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Fair enough. That's for sure possible.
being deadass when I say I try to guess the sponsor when you upload I’m like… nord vpn? casetify? magellan tv? it’s like eleanor neale trivia + im here for it
The moment when its none of them and it's Junes Journey 😅😅
I do too 😂😂
Same, usually I guess Magellan tv😂
I actually guessed correct today lol I was shocked 😂
Me too! 🤣
I married my husband on 6 weeks. He died 66 yrs and left me behind. A blessing in my life. Never had a day of regret.
While he didn't deserve to be murdered, his behaviour towards Jane was despicable. What a sad unhonorable excuse of a "man". 😏
Being a cat lover myself, I absolutely can appreciate your cats being in the background. Let them be part of the production. I think it's a good added touch. Love your content by the way
They’re so cute
"I wonder if Elenors posted anything yet"
*posted 6 seconds ago*
Best feeling ever
Same Loll
@@lttlbnn Same!!
Literally me after watching one of her old videos and this one popped up 😂
Same here, I was wondering the same thing and right of the batt she poped up 🥹🤣
exactlyyyy
Immediately upon opening the video I was like “😍 this is the best background change ever!”
I do have to say, my cat was very taken with lil Pluto in the back! I've never seen her do that befor but she was jumping up at the TV for Pluto and trying to find her behind the screen! It was honestly adorable but also kinda heartbreaking cause she couldnt get to her 😭
You’re right, sewing is a life skill. And a lost art.
Not lost, lots of young people are sewing, you just have to watch youtube to realise that.
Definitely not lost! Just not as popular. I know because I sew and many of my friends do to ❤️
I’m picking up sewing (hand sewing specifically) cause I just like to have hands on hobbies. Definitely a skill that should be taught for everyone.
I was taught to sew stitches at school in the 1970s - we sewed simple samplers. Then at secondary school we learned to use sewing machines, although I could never get the hang of using them. As a teenager, I joined a sewing evening class. I didn't use a machine, but I learned to sew a garment by hand. I still find the hand hemming skill useful. None of my 3 daughters learned sewing at school.
@@karenrussell8704 That is great you were able to be taught in school. I wasn’t but my mom did teach me some basics, she quilted. I was pleasantly surprised this year that my daughters school was teaching them to sew.
I just want to mention that as someone with borderline personality disorder, that just because a person has bpd doesn't automatically mean they are crazy or a bad person.
Absolutely. It's such a stigmatized disorder. People who have it tend to be the victims rather than the abusers. One of my friends has it and she's such a sweetheart and the most loyal person I know. She hates violence as enviornmental factors caused her mental illness and she would never hurt a fly. She knows her triggers and she'll walk away whenever something is really overwhelming her-- which is something a lot of people without bpd can't do. I wish people would judge the person and not the mental illness.
@@jackofhearts5542but then there’s the other size of it my brother delusional violent manipulative tried to kill our whole family my kids included he’s licked up in the hospital 3 years never stabilised 😅 he also has the schizo affective part of the illness to 🙈 it’s wild but my sister stable but angry a lot 😅
I’ve been acquainted with so many people with BPD, including my youngest sister and my mother - every single one also met the diagnostic criteria for CPTSD, but so many mental health professionals have been embarrassingly slow to recognize it as a legit diagnosis. I believe eventually those two diagnosis will be merged, and it would help enormously in de-stigmatising a disorder that is much misunderstood. If others can just recognise that it is triggered by long term, repeated trauma, they might find it easier to show empathy for people who do deeply need and deserve it!
Sorry I know it’s off topic but I’ve spent my adult years advocating for my sister and I have big feels for anyone coping with BPD/CPTSD!
@@robyngravesaltoom CPTSD is very often misdiagnosed as BPD, but they are not the same at all and will not be merged. CPTSD is the underlying problem of many other mental health issues. Hopefully it will get recognized and treated better in the near future.
People with real BPD can be just as destructive to have in your life as the other cluster B disorders, NPD (narcissistic) or ASPD (anti social). The only 'advantage' is that BPD is more likely to respond positively to treatment.
MOST people with bpd are rather… self inflicting. I have bpd and know many that do, and generally speaking from what I’ve witnessed, a really solid portion of people with bpd are the meanest to themselves and hurt their own feelings. There are many toxic traits that come with bpd, specifically in romantic relations. Jealousy, being distrustful with zero reason, taking bad things from past relationships and bringing them to the new ones. It’s a lot of work to get past those things, and absolutely possible.
Whilst it in no way justifies murder, Tom was leading her on and giving mixed messages which would have been very upsetting to any woman who was as invested in the relationship as J was.
Where do you get that information from? Judging from the picture I got of her, the "leading on" was mainly happening inside her head.
@@raifthemadno he did lead her on he cant stay loyal
@@TjnosaurusRex All I got from this video, was that he was thinking of breaking it off and was looking elsewhere for better company. Wouldn't you, if you lived with a completely delusional basket case? He might not have been open about it, but look what happened when he said no to her marriage fantasy.
What you said at the end about murderers never being able to escape their past and always being outcasts is actually the plot of a very good and emotional movie! It’s called The Unforgivable starring Sandra Bullock and I highlyyyy suggest you give it a watch
“Let me know if it’s not too distracting”
Me, immediately: it’s not. Cats make everything better and I adore them. Thank you for this gift
exactly
1:34:27 "that crime lady is doing crimes again, go get her" best quote from eleanor so far in 2024
i fucking cackled lmao
@@jourdyngroman same lol. The accent made it so much better too (I'm from Southern USA)
@@equityfrog6047 im from Canada and i lovee Eleanor’s accent it makes her videos 10x better
I doubt it'll be topped.
Saturn and Pluto are such fabulous kitty names. Saturn is just gorgeous and looks so cuddly.
I have BPD (Diagnosed at 18.) and I’ve thankfully been in therapy and on medication for years. Not all people with BPD are like this, however, it can be very hard to deal with without treatment.
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@@-treatyoulikeagentleman-me8012 that is not a question.
“Rich on rich crime” made my chuckle not gonna lie
This is so sad, this woman came from absolutely nowhere and made her dreams come true all for her to ruin it all in one night. Horrible case
We love the new cohosts in the background, truly add so much to the conversations and make for great additions.
But really, I love the kitties in the background! So cute and I’m glad they have such a great mum 💕
I am here for a whole video dedicated to the royal family controversies…from the start of the royal family beginnings to now…something different to “true crime” x
lol same I forgot I was watching a true crime because I was so invested in the royal family tea 😅
Queen has DROPPED
My thought exactly 👑
which one😂
You’re like half a year late mate😂
i gasped when she said the queen😂
UA-cam asked me to rate your comment😂
I love how Saturn was staring into my soul when I looked up during the beginning of the sponsorship part 😂😂
I can feel nothing but sadness for Jane Andrews. She obviously had temporary insanity in addition to her personality disorder.
11:35 i had an abortion at the same age 5 years ago. I still struggle every day feeling guilty. So, I really needed to hear this, Eleanor. Thank you 💗 xxx
You are among a lot of us that suffer, and feel devastated, and traumatized over the decision. To me this moderator made it seem ok, without saying how it can affect a person for real. It annoyed me a little. I will never get over it, I regret it, but I'm not ashamed for feeling that way. If I could turn back the clock I would. It is never discussed.
What else could you have done at the time? You were in a position for which there was no answer. You made the best decision with the information you had at the time. To look back, what other option did you have? Forgive yourself. You did the best you could for options available to you at the time.
Actually it’s the exact opposite having a child grows you up and makes you stop being so selfish. Abortion just adds to mental illness.
@@bellatweeter9618 That's what they (the current s0cietaI narrative) want you to believe, but in reality hardly anyone ever gets over it.
you did what was right for you and im proud of you for taking care of yourself 💕 i hope your days are good and memorable
Hey as an American I personally love hearing all the different accents that come out of the different regions around the UK
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As an Australian, I love all the accents that come out of the US.
@@sueschoers4974yeah particularly southern
It’s pity you’re not a journalist. Your opinions are yours. Just tell the story. You’re telling as much about y’self as you are of her.
@@sararichardson737 what are you talking about? Your comment makes no sense.
You ask about sewing in the 1970s I was born in 1963 and both my mother and grandmother sewed so I learned when I was nine years old. I remember asking for even a toy sewing machine, and my mother insisted on making sure I had a good machine to use instead of a toy. I was already making some shirts then and by the time I was in high school I made a beautiful wool plaid blazer. I even made my own pattern from three existing patterns, to create my wedding dress when I was 28.
I was Born in ‘79 and we used to knit and sew all our baby dolls clothes and then wrap them up as Christmas presents 😂
I was born in 1962. My great-grandfather, my grandfather and my mother were master tailors. I can do a lot of things technically, but unfortunately I didn't inherit the corresponding talent from my ancestors. It's like someone who is unmusical being able to read music notes and trying to play the piano according to them.
I was born in 87, same here!
Yeah, Eleanor was really showing her age there😂 it was not uncommon at all back then. Ahh the world before smart phones. I miss it
Wow!
Jane is the British "JODIE ARIAS" & poor Tom is the Travis Alexander, who was Jodie 's victim. This HORRIFIC crime occurred in June 2008 in Mesa, Arizona, USA. These two horrific crimes are SO similar, that it brought back those terrible memories. If you are not familar with the Jody Arias murder case, please look it up. BTW, Arias is STILL in prison & will NEVER be allowed out. Also, on the Jane Andrews case, here in America, it was reported that she had waited to attack Tom, in his sleep, that was EXACTLY how she was able to overpower Tom as she did. As for Arias, she waited till Travis was in the shower, shot him in the forehead, then took a knife to him. Thank You for a GREAT vid, from Texas, USA
BPD is such a scary illness, i was un medicated untill my 30s, however, I kinda feel like she was manipulative as well and its for sure not all on the BPD
Wonderful video on this case, and a reminder to all the people with BPD : having mental illness does not make you a bad person , a bad person uses their mental illness as an excuse for their actions (although yes illness can trigger your bad behavior) . No matter what your illness is (esp when it comes to cluster B type personality disorders ;npd,aspd,bpd etc) you can choose what kind of person you get to be 💕
Thank you, it means a lot💕
thank you
Thank you. I agree. I have chosen to be with my husband for 17 years. It just takes a lot of work. Work that I am very willing to put in to be happy. Everyone deserves to have happiness
@@melissaclark8538 wow! 17 years! That’s wonderful! Relationships in general are hard and i know I’m just a random kid on the Internet but In case no one’s told you : you should be proud of yourself for that hard work. Working to improve is no easy task. I’m proud of you
@@user-uy2io5jg6w Awe, thank you so much. I really appreciate your words!
Does anyone else think it's adorable when Eleanor says a couple was always texting or face timing when those didn't exist at the time of the case? The cases are so well researched and explained. If a true crime creator is going to have a flaw in the presentation of a case I think this is one of the best. 😂 It always makes me giggle inside.
I just watched an old podcast from Stephanie Harlowe and Derrick and Stephanie said “they were texting” but the case was in the 80s. So Derrick said “they weren’t texting right?” And then Stephanie goes “oh I don’t know! Emailing?” 🤦🏼♀️ nope still no in 1984 😂😂
@@ashleybehlert5842 that sounds like a conversation they would have, although I think there was very limited and primitive email in 1984. My mom was getting her computer science degree then. 🤣 This technology is so ubiquitous now days that if you're under 30 you might not even really remember what it was like in the days of DOS and AOL. We have an old rotary phone and before my parents finally got rid of the landline about 10 years ago it was fun to show the niblings how to use it. They thought it was magical or something. I was at Best Buy the other day for a keyboard and the very young man working there and I got talking about typewriters. Then I told him about adding machines. He said he wants a typewriter and now I think he'll look for an adding machine too.
2001. I'm sure phones were around then as I had a mobile at 18 and that was 97
@Debbie-st4nn my biodad got his first cellphone in '97. But I know for sure FaceTime didn't exist.
@@Debbie-st4nncellphones existed in the 90s, but texting was unheard of. And when it first came out as a thing in the early 2000s, it was expensive as you paid per text.
I almost forgot this was about a crime. I relate so much to Jane’s story, from growing up poor to trying to fit in with the rich people you work for. It’s so hurtful to constantly be put down by something you can’t control (your low class from birth) by both those above you and those around you. Some of my first memories were about realizing my family is poor, too. My mother (normally a very collected woman) crying about not being able to buy food for us, or not being able to afford taking me to a hospital when I needed urgent medical treatment. It was a formative experience and I remember it clearly so many years later. Growing up impoverished can be so traumatic, and I’m sad to see that Jane never really escaped her beginning and ended up throwing everything away. Not discounting what she did to her boyfriend, it just hurts to see that this was the outcome for her because of how much I see myself in her early years.
Murderers always blame their victims.
As someone who married her husband after dating for 3months I always tell anyone thinking of doing the same it’s a huge mistake. My husband and I have been happily married for 27years but we are an exception definitely not the rule, we were 19 and ran off to Vegas. The two of us have had many bumps and bruises and have grown up together. He is literally my best friend. I’ve seen so many other people who married, young, or married quickly and we are the only relationship that we know that has worked out. It’s very sad to see.
***I vote that Saturn & Pluto become your new cohosts ❤ ***
My mum married my stepdad in3 months, well 10 weeks really. There was a 30 yr age gap. It was not happy but they battled thru for 37 yrs till he died. It left a lot of wounds on me and bro(my half brother) so no, I don’t recommend it.
I’m confused you married Janes husband…? Huh?
@@eden20111 no, the "her" in "her husband" is referring to the op - basically saying "i married my husband" in third person
Love that: don’t murder people! Sage advice from Eleanor! Best line ever!
Apart from your ex-girlfriend or boyfriend.
Seeing the cat behind you instantly soothed me. I didn't even know I needed soothing. ❤️
Imagine Jane watching you talking about her😭
“Grass and Barrth” finished me 😂
Edit: Love for the Likes
We sure do say it like that!
Big up down under!
"That's where the queen lives -anyway- oh!🫢 not anymore" 🤣🤣🤣
I cannot explain how much I LOVE your hair!!
right at the end I was expecting you to say ‘what a sad little life jayne’ 😂😂 great video, thank you for telling the story without avoiding swearing or certain words, feels like listening to your mate telling you a good gossip 😅
“Whenever you think you’re a bad person, just remember that bad people don’t care whether or not they’re a bad person.”
Absolutely love that ❤❤
I know I've suggested it many times before but I may as well push my luck because there's nothing to lose.. Would you consider covering the brutal murder of my previous teachers at malmölatinskola (Victoria Edström and Sara Böök) and also the outrageous claims of the defence lawyer (Anders Elison), trying to explain away the planned attack with autism.
These women deserve to be known world wide..and their stories too..they were so lovely and deserve to be known, especially as it's a Swedish case it isn't really talked about.. not even in Sweden anymore.
Might sound selfish but also for some sort of closure..? This case has really affected me, I think also because my friend was literally right next to where it happened, it could have been her, it could have been anyone..at times I even wish it had been me....
Either way it's been really hard and I think it could bring quite a bit of peace knowing people are talking about them..
And I'd be more than glad to help out if you needed inside stories or translation help. Hope you at least could consider.
Much love x
(And for those wondering, yes, I have made a video case request.)
I'm so sorry for you loss 🫂
Aas an autistic person, I think that claim is bs, autism doesn't make anyone a killer or a saint. It doesn't justify what he did.
@@UsagiMimiChuThank you so much, I can't really describe how much even the smallest of comments like "I'm sorry for your loss" actually helps in my healing, truly thank you.
And yes, it is bs, thing is he had two psyche evaluations and it came back that even if he did have autism it wouldn't have contributed to what he chose to do but his defence lawyer still tried to say he was so sick and couldn't think properly and that he was "so autistic" blah blah blah.
I know it's quite common to pull those cards but it infuriates me SO much and it paints a horrid picture of people with autism and mental health struggles.
Especially as it was a planned attack, maybe not the victims but the attack was still planned and he had done a bunch of research yet the defence lawyer still tried to act as if it was by impulse and I personally have horrendous impulses most likely because of my ADHD which makes me even more angry..
OH and he said that it was "typical for autistics" to like get fixated about things and said it could have easily been football or something else
LIKE OMG - the audacity?!
This was quite long I apologise, just wanted to explain it a bit more. Thank you for your comment. ❤️🩹
Someone who works with people who knew the victim is Kendall Rae. I know you are wanting to get the case out there so she would be a good person to request covering the case.
Girl I’m so sorry, vila i fred Victoria och Sara 🖤🤍
Thats just horrid. Im sorry for your loss i cant imagine knowing a friend of mines would’ve been right next to where it had happened. I hope you heal from it!
He likely wanted to end things for good and she murdered him. All that extra riff raft is her attempt to gain sympathy. 12 years minimum for murdering a 30+ year old man ? That's ridiculous!
As someone with BPD and in various support circles for BPD, I really hate the term "favorite person." People get excited over their favorite meal, catching their favorite movie playing, hearing their favorite song... Pretty much no one with BPD gets excited over having a new "favorite" person. It's a very unhealthy FIXATION on another person, and your own sense of self is dependent on how that person views you. While BPD is marked by emotional disregulation, fear of abandonment, low self-esteem, etc., any PERCEPTION of abandonment/neglect/etc from one's FP can cause MASSIVELY chaotic and destructive splits in their personality. We don't like the dynamic, and there's really no way to choose your person. It just happens, and then you're really obsessed with them.
it’s giving kendall rae with the cat tower in the back of the true crime video! i love it, always happy to see some adorable cats while listening to troublesome content x
edit: i was watching older eleanor videos today at work and you can see how much more comfortable she is in front of the camera and within herself these days - one of my all time faves, love u ellie xo
I thought the same things about the Cats and Kendall.
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I appreciate the care and understanding you use to deal with the subject of borderline personality disorder. Thank you for that
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I remember this case. I didn't realise she stabbed him. The other thing I remember reading about it was a text she sent, perhaps to a friend, when she could drive no further was quoted "no more pain".
Jane with her BPD reminds me sooooo much of Princess Diana with her BPD. Fixated on her male lovers, outbursts, drama, eating problems and theatrical suicidal jestures.
Wow! Their symptoms are so uniformed. So sad for them, their families and the men they got involved with. Hopefully mental health experts can start recognizing this disease sooner and treating it successfully faster so there will be hope for all who suffer.
As someone who grew up poor and asked for a sewing machine in middle school this is defo why
Or they are naturally creative, whether a poor girl , rich girl , its not exactly the norm either way. Why put yourself or any other in a class distinction based upon wanting a sewing machine. More girls need to be hands on and creative , get out of the rat race !
@@truthbearer3891it’s not an incorrect statement to suggest that sewing was more popular among less fortunate women, it’s actually just factual. It’s very convenient for parents raising children without much money, you can fix any torn clothing without having to buy more, you can entertain your child if they’re into it, and also help them learn a cool life skill. Class destination is kinda relevant
It’s ironic that having someone on staff that can sew custom outfits just for you is just about the boujiest thing I’ve ever heard of 😂
@@rustyspoon2211idk it might be a geographic thing, I grew up in a poor area during the 90’s and sewing wasn’t a thing at all amongst my peers, I had been sewing and knitting since I was 7/8 and was picked on throughout school for it
@@BeatnikLovesIceTeamaybe your family could afford to buy clothes? My mum grew up poor and her mum made most of her clothes, partly because it was cheaper and saved money
eleanor i’ve been watching you for YEARS . my absolute favorite youtuber , you’re always so respectful and tell the story well . thank you and your team for all your hard work!’
Same!!!!! ❤❤❤
In the 70s and 80s 'sewing' was something that was done in Junior & Comprehensive school.
Just want to say, as someone who has struggled with BPD my whole life, the empathy you show when describing what it feels like is so appreciated and accurate.
All I can think of is how lucky Sarah Ferguson is that she isn't still with Andrew after all this stuff has come out. Phew!
They still live in the same house together! Have done for years.
Sarah hung out with Epstein on her own, she’s just as bad imo.
@@janetpendlebury6808 At least no longer married.
i love saturn and pluto being in the vids they’re so cute
I thought that a situationship was just a colloquialism used in the UK to mean a relationship but it kept nagging at me so I googled it. And according to google it means a relationship that is more than friendship but less than a committed relationship. The old adage that you learn something new everyday really is true. I love learning new words.
Eleanor, I can't thank you enough for the sensitive way you explained BPD. I have BPD and it's misunderstood and people explain is so badly all the time. Even down to explaining 'favorite person' - it's really appreciated ❤️
I love the idea of your babies making appearances!!
I’ve heard of this case but not in depth and the way she’s connected to royalty is intriguing. Thank you Eleanor as always for your amazing videos and treating the victims with respect and advocating for their case
I've just stumbled across this video and ihave to say that your storytelling is second to none. You kept me enthralled for over an hour and a half. I look forward to more of your content 😁
Your new supervisors are doing a great job!! I love them in the video!
IT IS RECEIVED PRONUNCIATION!! I studied accents, dialects, and the international phonetic alphabet for years, and it was so cool to hear this casually mentioned
And spoken in old Hollywood.
@@Blonde_Somnambulist That style of speaking is actually called SAP or Standard American Pronunciation as it was invented for film and is also called "Mid-Atlantic"
Yes! I had just heard this in a documentary! It's not a "natural" dialect and was taught in prepatory/finishing schools and Hollywood back in the day. Now I am going to have to look into when the change happened...
Not me picturing Fergie from Black eyed Peas every time you said fergie as in sara ferguson lol I had no idea about any of this, it's insaneeeeee. Great video!
Up until recently, I legitimately believed they were the same person, lol
@@transientdaydreams I don't blame you hahaha
This was a great report. Thank you. Your innocence about things that happened in your parents generation is cute, but tells me you don't talk to them enough. Talk to them more and listen. They have great stories to tell you. It will make you an even greater reporter. 😊❤
around a week ago a man tried to break into my house, and the police took forever to get there. and they already knew of the guy because he had done the same thing multiple times before. i was super upset ofc, even at the police, and i did say “they don’t care unless there’s a body bag” so hearing that exact quote scared me so bad
Eleanor after realising the queen doesn't live there anymore is funny ah😭😂
I thought the Royals had Xmas at Norwich? Balmoral is their summer retreat.
If my child is fading in and out of consciousness I’m calling 911. And the pills missing….
This is neglect. It’s really bad.
Yep, it's almost as if she wanted her to die.
Is this jane's account or the true story?
As a person with Diagnosed and controlled BPD thank you for treating the disorder with respect.
I hadn't heard this story, thank you. Funny, I'm a similar age to Jane, and when I was a kid, I did ask for a sewing machine, and a lot of families did have an old Singer in the corner, and we were all taught to knit and sew in junior school, that's how it was then, things have changed so much. Also, it's totally believable that Jane was abused terribly and didn't talk about, and her mental health problems ignored because in them days things were different. No-one knew about depression, or how to deal with it, or that it needed dealing with. If you weren't eating, your mum would take you to the doctors, because they had only just heard of anorexia, but doctors would prescribe tonics to give you an appetite, and that was it! No thought that you had an appetite, and you were hurting yourself, so no wonder she was so messed up and developed BPD. No excuse to kill though. If he was a shit, she should have just left him.
I literally just ran myself a bubble bath in and now I have this to watch while I relax?! What an angel girl 🤍
it's so hard to feel sorry for her even though she's been deemed as not a threat to society anymore, but so easy to feel so much sadness for her as well because she can never ever move on
Your cats in the background add to the atmosphere of the stories, I love it❤