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I like Bulova, in theory. The practice, however, leaves a lot to be desired. They seem determined to try and trash almost every single model one way or another. This Aerojet is a solid 8/10 but could be a 9 if only they hadn't insisted on literally overcomplicating the dial. Cheers, Jody
Would’ve called Rolex the world’s most frustrating brand since buying one at retail is all but impossible. That Bulova is gorgeous though.
But would you buy one if you could buy one? At their current prices? 😬
@@JustOneMoreWatch fuck no. It's become a ridiculous meme now. And I agree with you, massively overrated massively over hyped, and favourite to all the wrong people.
@@JustOneMoreWatch they're just a bit overpriced for what they are on retail already. A Submariner shouldn't be £7000 or have a £1500 difference just to have a date on them
@@JustOneMoreWatch I own one. I put it on my credit card, and I am really about 1/4 through paying for it. I have a disciplined payback plan that will have it paid off one year from the date of purchase. All that is to say that I am not one of "those" people.
Here is the way I see it. My one Rolex is FREEDOM! Once you climb that hill, you never have to climb it again. From that point on, you no longer have to chase a grail. You can enjoy the hobby with any watch that strikes your tastes, at any price point. My Rollie is on it's winder right now, and I have a Hamilton Khaki King on my wrist.
Extremely wealthy people are a different animal. For us "regular" collectors, getting that ONE big time watch just frees you up to never have to worry about the aspiration again.
And you should be glad. You'd be better to throw that money out of the window, as at least you'd make some random people happy. Longing for super overpriced trinkets is a clear sign of some sort of psychological deficiency... naive, delusional mind, with lack of self confidence, overall awareness and critical thinking. So, rather instead in a Rolex, invest that money into a good shrink. You definitely need a service and repair.
Agreed. The simplified dial is definitely more in keeping with the retro styling & if it was 38mm (or smaller) that would be a truly killer watch.
I just want 36-38mm watches. They look better with a smaller dial.
@@surfside75 I just want 39 - 42mm watches. They look better with a bigger dial.
Exactly what I was going to type. Much prefer a smaller watch these days. Actually wish you could find decent non-vintage 34mm watches that aren’t “feminine” styled to be honest.
@@japd7897 maybe on ye wrist I guess.
I'm built like a skinny girl😁 . seriously though, in the past men's watches were much smaller and looked great. These bigger watches even the citizens are like wearing a wall clock.. Ridiculous🤣
@@caspar17 - hello.. So I was in this situation and felt robbed becouse of the lack in watch choices. I found the size I wanted was so limited given my top watch price at the time of starting my first real collection. I bought many watches from seiko5 automatic classic series 36-38mm. Casio also makes nice smaller digis based on older models and they have a couple nice analogs. I bought 15 or so of those + my favorite Gshock '85 solar square I named Mario❤. Now that I have bought all I want from Seiko & casio, having to save for the next level I guess 1k+ as I don't care for the $500 range watches😐
I really like your version! Also, I would rather have an acrylic crystal than mineral! Either make it sapphire so it won’t scratch, or make it so I can fix it.
For my 2 cents worth, I think the simplified dial would work well as more of a dress watch, but for an everyday piece in the office the additional complication makes the watch a little more interesting.
I agree... that 24 h sub dial turns this watch into a 70s "Aerojet" or else it's just a dress watch like so many others. The original watch looked more like something out of the 60s.
The original is a gorgeous watch but I definitely prefer the simplified rendered version. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks mate, and thanks Glynn!
I’m with team JOMW on this one. The date window can definitely be omitted. The 24h dial could be placed at 6 instead, if included.
Yep. The simplified version is the way forward . Sapphire crystal, exhibition caseback, automatic movement & it's a winner.
Or even their 262khz quartz with solid back to keep the price down.
@@the_once-and-future_king. I agree. And not just to keep the price down, but to make it less fat, and far more durable and more practical.
I agree - it’s a good-looking watch with lots of vintage charm but would look better without the 24 hour complication. I’d move the date window to the 6 o’clock position and have a closed caseback. (And swap out the mineral crystal for a sapphire one.)
One of the biggest mysteries in the watch industry is how every single person on the planet, except the Bulova product planning department, knows a 40mm-42mm Lunar Pilot would be an absolute home run.
While I agree with your comment, open the caseback of a Lunar Pilot to see why the case is that size. The movement is big, really big, hence why the case is so large. You'll have to ask Citizen why the movement is so hefty but since it's based on the Precisionist's maybe they couldn't squeeze it smaller with the 262kHz oscillator and multiple motors for the price charged (that's just a guess on my part).
I totally agree that particular movement won’t fit in a smaller case, but there is nothing stopping Bulova from developing or buying a smaller movement and giving every watch enthusiast their dream smaller Lunar Pilot.
@@jonathandoughy3430 I'd say there is a reason: cost. The LP and the Stars & Stripes are the only 2 watches I know of that use the movement. Nothing in the Citizen catalog and nothing in the Bulova catalog uses it. There's not enough volume to justify the development, movements are not created that often in the watch world. And my guess if they could have made it smaller they would have but something sure is stopping Citizen from doing it.
It gets boring that puny wristed people always seem to want to dictate watch sizes , if its too big then just deal with it & buy something else.
@@MRGobo73 they could always just buy a ladies watch 🤣
Yes, definitely prefer your simplified version. I nearly bought this based on your first video but just can’t see past the 12/24 hour dial which I think is totally unnecessary. I don’t mind the date window.
It’s just gorgeous to me and I’d buy it in a heartbeat without the subdial (although I may buy it yet 🤔😀).
You're right about the Bulova Lunar Pilot - I had one briefly and it's the only watch I've owned that I felt was TOO big and I've got some big watches! There's just something about the design that makes it look even bigger than it is, sadly... Nowadays I'm down to just one Bulova, a vintage Deep Sea 666 'hummer'.
Why don't they make a 42? Sell it alongside the 45?? Madness.
The vintage bullies were nice watches and I own several and none of the recent ones co.e close to the quality or style
The lunar pilot was perfect for me with my 8 inch wrist. However, it wouldn't hurt to offer it in different sizes.
I was close to getting one this week, and have looked at the Lunar Pilot in the past, case size is no problem with man wrists but the strap needs to be 22mm to balance.
@@JustOneMoreWatch I would love a 42mm (or even 41mm) Lunar Pilot, however, I believe Bulova is limited by the size of the movement itself. I don't own a Lunar Pilot so I can't say for sure, but what I've heard, it that the movement is HUGE, and 45mm is the smallest they can go.
The 24-hour register is actually quite handy when pair with the date window--saves you a little work when setting it : )
I didn't really see how it could be a 9/10 until I saw the render. I prefer that honestly. A 10/10 for me would be Sapphire crystal and silver hands and indices as I'm not a huge fan of two tone in general. But I definitely agree that Bulova loves to shoot themselves in the foot. I do have one Bulova myself and love it, but it's a reasonably sized MarineStar so nothing huge.
Agree with you, much better without the 24hr and date complications. I have the Lunar Pilot BTW on the bracelet, I do love it and sizes well on my wrist.
Jody, I pulled the trigger on the Lunar Pilot on a bracelet 2 days after the Moonswatch release. For $380 AUD the Swatch was still only a Swatch. I felt the $600 AUD on the high beat Bulova made more sense. I don't think it looks too big on my 7.5 inch wrist, and when placed next to the Pagani Speedie they present quite similarly. Thanks for your ongoing contributions.
Good choice 👍
Swatch watches are unserviceable junk !
I’ve got the lunar pilot too and it doesn’t wear too big at all. I only paid $399 AUD for mine.
Perfect Tim. Makes the Moonswatch feel like it came out of a bonbon.........
I’ve got the same wrist size as yourself. I bought my Lunar Pilot some 3 years ago & aside from my actual Speedy, it’s my next favourite watch to wear! 👍🏼😎
@@andrewd7586 The Speedy is my grail, but at 70 the money is best saved up for the kids' inheritances. They can fight over the complete Pagani collection.
Hi!!! I like your design best, but maybe I would add a well integrated and color matched date wheel at 6, probably round, but not sure. And if you really wanted a 24 hour indicator, maybe an extra hand on the middle, GMT style.
I also agree that the bulova lunar would benefit from a smaller case size.
Also Seiko is going up in price, and seems to have quality control issues, mainly with bezel alignment, so what I've done is stick to models with no bezel that needs aligning in the first place. My last two purchases are the new seiko 5 flieger in black with the milanese, and the no bezel alpinist in blue with the blue leather strap, for which i've ordered a metal bracelet with solid links, solid endlinks and a diver's extension clasp, so I dont have to be afraid of wetting the strap😅. They're both really nice, but you can see a jump in finishing quality on the alpinist
Hey Jody, I'm on board with you with pretty much everything you have said about Bulova. Their modern offerings are reminiscent of the majority of invicta, a lot of styles just packed into one dial. About the Lunar Pilot I think it would be nice if they add a smaller dial version but for goodness sake keep the 44mm as it is perfect on my 8 inch wrist. I bought the special edition with the NATO strap complete with leather strips with embossed lunar mission details. That NATO takes it up a notch where its the only strap I have on it now. I also got the Devil Diver re-issue and my only niggle with that one is that they didn't use the original logo which does not have all the letter connected and looks much better than the re-issue. I am not a fan of cyclops' however this one is not on top but underneath the crystal which sort of allows me to live with it! The bracelet I don't even mention as it is a terrible hair nipper 70's press clasp piece of trash which I've never actually sized. I put my Devil Diver on a rubber Tropic and that's what's staying on it. I really love both my Bulova's and am considering the A-15 Pilot, the Surfboard and the chronograph C "Stars and Stripes". Like you say so often, there are so many micro brands with great specs that are competing for my money that it's a much more difficult sell to myself when I have limited space available in my collection. On this Aerojet I much prefer your version but I really don't like the Aerojet font and lines, for me the styles clash, one seems more tool watchish and the rest of the watch looks like a dress watch, cocktail stylish.
Re: the Bulova Lunar Pilot, try with a slightly narrower band. I have my no date polished LP on a standard length (the shorter of the two lengths available) horned 18mm Forstner Komfit (expensive but I got a good deal on the watch) and it helps balance out the size of the watch - looks good, feels great, and is a perfect fit for my 7" wrist.
Great video Jody. Definitely agree with your simplified design-lose the 24 hrs sub dial and lose date window or at least have fast 6 o’clock as you say. Petty about the low water resistance rating and presumably not a screw Down Crown but for the money you can’t have everything. I like a strong long lasting Lume, so it’s not for me.
Hi Jody, If you want to try a real good around $200 Bulova automatic (myota movement) that IMO kind of fits your desire, give the Bulova military hack, 96A246 automatic field watch. I especially like the 24 hour indicator Arabics on the inside of the dial, also comes with a black leather nato. What's not to like. Cream or white dial.
I like your version Jody but, I love a date which I would have moved to the 6 o'clock position between the "automatic" and the 6 marker. Also add a solid caseback, how often does anyone look at an exhibition caseback, especially an automatic with a huge rotor blocking the view?
I actually like the 24-hr subdial. Maybe for this model a rotating 🌞 & 🎑 would be more appropriate.
Overall, nice piece 👍
Agree with you on the simplified dial, Jody. Although, I would take one with a better designed date window - perhaps with a background that matches the dial and a gold border.
Great review! I bought the Aerojet last year because I love vintage watches and as you mentioned, the dial is simply beautiful! And thanks for the alternate composition of the dial. To me, simpler is better. But that's why my next Bulova will be the American Clipper automatic. It has a similar vibe without the subdial and the date. Plus it's even cheaper then the Aerojet! I hope you can do a review of the Clipper some day! Cheers!
agree with your comments re: added complications. This is a dress watch, most likely for occasional use, I don't want to be bothered setting everything up again each time you pick up the watch.. Rather have it with their high end super high beat quart movement with that lovely sweeping second hand! Cheers
Whoa. In that side-by-side, it is striking how my mind thinks it sees some of the same design DNA as in the MIL-SHIPS you mentioned near the end (the latter being Fifty-Fathoms level gorgeous to my eyes - you *will* be on my wrist someday, Milships). Given its origin story as a prototype watch, I understand that this is just me seeing shapes in the clouds.
I like harmoniaartificiosa's idea of moving that 24hr complication down to the 6, like a kind of small-seconds caught in a temporal distortion - and shrinking it, obvously. Imagine that instead of the two-tone, that complication played with the radial brushing and fume motifs of the main dial.
Or... and this feels like an admission, here. I like a GMT set to the same time zone as the main hands. The 24hr hand just really works for me as a sort of fuel gauge for life. I know the other hands contain the same information, but that "once around the circle is all you get" is somehow more visceral and intuitive. As in, "Oh dang, half the day is over and I am leaving comments on UA-cam videos and not preparing the lecture for class on Tuesday." True story.
And yes, for the love of all that is holy, why do they keep putting dates on mechanical watches they know we will only be wearing occasionally?
I think that the 24hour dial could actually be a seconds hand, maybe located at 6 o clock in a more discreet style and it could lose that date window altogether. I mean if it was basically a small seconds watch it would be actually much better already.
Paulo Aloisio:. Totally agree! Small seconds hand would at least serve some function, and perhaps they could have made the watch thinner that way as well.
Great video, I was a Bulova man from the beginning, my Mom was the Secretary of an American Jewelers association, so I got to know a Watch Technician that was trained at the famous, original Bulova School for WWII Veterans. Mr. Graham showed me a Bulova internal movement back in 1963, needless to say I became a Watch Geek early and totally loyal to Bulova. Over the past 7 years I lost an affinity for the brand, especially after the seperation from the previous Bulova CEO Mr. Thume. I loved the Accu Swiss line and really felt we were on our way back, but Citizen acquired Frederique Constant / Alpina so Bulova was put back in the junky category. Recently there has been some interesting models but nothing I find compelling. At least the brand still exists and I have a lot of admiration for Citizen as a Global Environmental Corporation.
In my opinion there is not much effort in the design of Bulova Models beyond re introducing the old models, a good example is the Devil Diver, nice but with a junk movement that doesn't even hack. I still hope but I like Timex a whole lot better. Great video Jody, but every time I look at the Bulova line I want to cry!
I would take Jody's version, BUT: I'd still add that date window because I just like having the date. No idea where I'd put it though! I definately like the removal of the 21 jewels part in addition to removing the 24h. It makes the sector dial work much better.
Really cool showing a comparison of the orginal and edited version of the watch, the edited version looks waaay better
Hey Jody, I have the Bulova tank and I think you are missing the intention of the.. just one more feature - these current range of watches have. It creates an extension of interest, as you noted in this video, this range of watches present as a consistently shifting presence with those who care to take a concerning look finding more and more to find. I'm in Newcastle if you want to borrow mine for a few weeks to get what i mean. Love your videos mate !
Citizen has some lovely watches the GMT Worldtime you reviewed a while back, the Calendrier BU0050-02L true moon phase also looks amazing ... for around $250.
I called the tiny winder on first sight.
Gotta say your mods are exactly what I would do plus front sapphire n more /better lume while retaining the hands n pip sizes.
I’d prefer it without the 24 hour complication, but I’d also like a slightly lighter shade of blue on the dial.
I love the look of the Bulova Accutron 521 re-issue but I wish they’d scaled it up a little from 32x32mm..
Wow. The Glynn+Jody Aerojet would be amazing. Get it down to 38mm and a bit slimmer, and I'm almost certainly buying one.
Having lived nearby their original HQ in Queens for a long time now, I've always felt a special affection for Bulova -- a vintage Caravelle is one of my favorites in my collection. But agreed, it's a frustrating love at times.
I like the complications. Symmetry is overrated! The more you simplify the design of a watch, the more similar they all become, and where's the fun in that? The quirks are what make them interesting! Anyway, thank you for uploading such top notch content so consistently. Your channel has become part of my morning ritual while I have my coffee. Cheers Jody!
Totally agree with your assessment of Bulova. I do have two that I love, the Moonwatch dinner plate and the beautiful A-15 Pilot, which is sized properly. I live the sweeping second hand and don't know why they don't use it more!
Jody great video as always, you can definitely see the difference in quality with the new camera!! I really like the watch you designed, great dial and hands, but I can't stand the AEROJET font! I'm glad you reduced the size of it on yours. I don't own a Bulova for all the reasons you give, there's always something about each model that turns me off.
Love my Lunar Pilot, but agree it would have been better a few mm smaller (thankfully I can still pull it off at 45mm). The funny part too is I actually paid less for it on the metal bracelet than what the Moonswatch MSRP is here, thanks to a great sale on Amazon.
I’m with you Jody, simple is usually better when it comes to watches unless you really lean into the complications/business either to add functionality or as a stylistic choice. Here it doesn’t really work for me (but I’m sure it would for others).
Absolutely love Glynn’s render of the JOMW version of the Aerojet. Takes this watch to an entirely different level. Even just scaling down the Aerojet text on the dial helps to improve things.
And deleting the pointless '21 jewels'. He does good work. Bulova should hire him.....
The updated render looks excellent, great video
I don't mind the 24hr complication. It would have been amazing, if it were adjustable independently from the time, as a GMT complication. I think a date display is very useful, but I agree with you here, it doesn't fit well into the dial.
Great looking watch and reasonably priced too. I agree with your changes Jody but I do like the larger 'AEROJET' font. I'll go either way with the date but I prefer no date.
I like the jomw version of the dial. The 8217 movement akways makes the dial look unbalanced with a subdial at 9. I have a Chinese IWE Carnival with the same movement. It achieves balance by making the date window at 3 part of a faux dial. The Bulova two tone dial at 9 makes the imbalance even worse.
I like the 24hr sub dial ... it goes nicely with the glow and radiant color of the dial from center out to the edge.
I agree with you, Jody, about All the Bulovas you mentioned and for the same reasons. However, as far as the Aerojet goes, I really like it just the way it is except for the size. I might prefer the sub-dial at the bottom, though. However, your version is pretty nice, too, because, either way, the basic design is pretty damned nice.
I liked it but couldn’t deal with the 24hr indicator.
Ended up getting the quartz version. Only $75, 39mm, 8.4mm thick and the tuning fork is applied but the Bulova script is printed so it’s not all chunky and funky. Very clean and simple, just what it should be.
Yes it’s not automatic but it’s a very pretty, wearable and affordable little grab and go.
I have a Bulova 96B258, which is the moon watch on the steel bracelet, and the balance is fine on my 7-1/2 inch wrist. I also have their 96B260 Precisionist Chronograph which also sports their high-frequency quartz movement. The rest of their catalogue leaves me a bit ... meh ... but one model I eventually tracked down at a reasonable price here in OZ was their blue and gold Curv model, 98A159. This has to be one of the most comfortable watches I own, and again, with its VHF quartz movement, extremely accurate.
The simple clean edited version is awesome!
Totally agree about the render, that looks so much better than the original. I think they are starting to head in the right direction with the A-11 Hack. Another back catalogue design but looks spectacular. I am looking at at getting one. Is there possibility of a review of the a-11 in the near future Jody?
Hi Jody, I agree with you about Bulova, they could be great but all watches are too large or too busy. I have Bulova 96B229 Military Field Watch, has UHF 262kHz quartz, looks great but at 42mm it just wares too big. I quite like the look of the military Hack its 38mm, maybe I will give them one more go...
I'm in between the two. I would keep the 24 hour indicator, maybe move it down to the 6 o'clock position and make it a bit smaller, but get rid of the date complication.
That complication on a field watch style dial would be great, I think better than the Orient Defender(?). The render but with a brushed case is just about right, with such a pretty dial the date and 24hr complications get in the way
Still a newbie to this hobby. I have an older Bulova Chrono that used to be my dad's and it is based on that watch that I judged the brand. An early buy that taught me a lesson about research first was an inexpensive dress watch from their Caravelle line. As soon as I took it out of the box and held it in my hands I realized I made a mistake. I do not hate the whole brand, I just bought a watch without research and asking the right questions about it. Thank you for being an ethical and enthusiastic resource.
Totally agree with your opinion regarding the Lunar Pilot. I love a good quartz watch, and the 262 kHz movement is an accurate one. It pains me that they have only released a 45mm version. If they made a 40mm or 41mm version, I would buy one in a heart beat!
The watch looks great in my opinion, much more eyecatching than the simplified version. The name 'Aerojet' sounds like a type of flightwatch for me. That's why I think that the 24h indicator is well placed.
Nether the less great video and thanks for the presentation of this Bulova. Greetings 👋
I agree with you, a simpler design would be better, but i think they should make it with a precisionist movement, it's slim with a sweeping second and +/-10 seconds a year, i did a little research and the three hand precionist movement it's only 27mm in diameter.
I always prefer a simple design, unless I'm going for something fun and funky.
Your rendering really shows the beauty of that dial!
Great review!!
Better with the complications. I think the 24 hour dial adds a bit of interest with the silver half matching the case and it has the look of a horizon line given the name on the dial, but maybe the date wheel could have been colour matched. Would definitely look odd being that thick while only being a 3 hander with no date. If you thinned it down you lose that perceived depth effect.
A gold coloured case with gold half 24 hour dial and colour matched date wheel would look sweet with those hands and indices.
Had a quartz version of this with black dial, very similar to the rendered version with lower finish quality. Not a fan of off - centre complications and I think date windows, cyclops etc are a little superfluous in this day and age. I would definitely go with the mock-up. Do more of these please!
OK Simon, it is fun and Glynn is great at them. Check out his IG, he has reworked the Air King this week too!
@@JustOneMoreWatch Will do!
I bought the lunar pilot, put it on a black/grey (bond) nato and it looks superb. I have worn it more than any of my other watches since getting it. It is large but I have large wrists and can carry it off. I agree about many of bulova’s other offerings though.
You're absolutely right about Bulova, I own a few marine star with a very simple and sporty style and look, but now when I look at a few of their new catalog i get turn off and not interested in them as i used to due to way too many open heart and some of their new designs and style are pretty awful 😢 but I'll continue to cherish the 4 I own.
Another great video my friend I always appreciate your point of view
I would definitely your rendered version Jody, but NOT interested in the watch the way it is currently. It's amazing what the difference of 1 point and minor design cues on a 1-10 scale can mean when it comes down to purchase or not to purchase. Nice review as usual 👌🏽
I totally agree with your assessment of Bulova current design trends. I have over 30 Bulovas, divided between current/recent offerings (e.g. Lunar Pilot, Devil Diver, Precisionists), older Swiss movement models (automatics and quartz) and vintage. The wonderful 3-hand Precisionist, Precisionist Chronograph and Lunar Pilot modules fit in and were placed in more rationally sized cases than what is currently being offered. It feels like Bulova (Citizen) hired some Invicta designers. I wish they would return more to the design aesthetic of the Accu-Swiss (2012-2015) era and earlier.
The alternate rendering is a great idea.
They could also just tone down the visual impact of the 24hr dial and make the date wheel black. I would also change the gold accents out for silver. With these changes, I would be interested.
Perfect , I’m sure many more people feel the same way about Bulova , lots of potential in their catalog but obviously need to do a design direction rethink, great show !
2:24 Superb photoshop skills on that 4th lug XD Thanks for great videos mate!
You are on the money today Jody. Your design of the featured watch looks so much cleaner. My pet peeve is day/date complications on dive watches and dials overloaded with text which could easily be engraved on the case back. And the Bulova Lunar Pilot would be a winner if it was in a 39/40mm size. It would interesting to know the size of the original.
Agreed 💯. The uncomplicated version looks great. I would've kept a colour matched date wheel. Too bad they find a way to cock it up
100% agree. I bought the sutton tank white face gold markers. A little thick for a dress tank and that's the story of bulova. They just lack a little bit despite looking good, a bit like sekonda. They should stick to their accutron movement instead of myota and nh seiko as that is there strong point that no one else has. Also none of the packaging mentions sutton or what it means just a watch in a box but twice the price of pagani or steeldive.
Absolutely agree with you, Jody, the simplified dial is FAR better. I do like a date window though...
Absolutely the simplified version looks cleaner, more pleasing to the eye. So, Bulova should lose the 24 hour indicator, which causes an imbalance in the dial. No need for the date window either. Good video. Thank you
Yay! Another jomw video! Best way to kick off the weekend
Thank you Rune!
I definitely am with the simplistic version, Jody. I'm not into overly complicated and cluttered dials on any watch. Well said and displayed.
I biggest no no for me with the Moon Pilot is the proportion of strap size to watch diameter, it looks like a 40 with a 14strap width. I checked my TAG which is a similar big boy at 44 but it has a 22 bracelet and to my eyes has "normal" proportions.
Actually I like somewhere in between.
I like the character of the two tone day night 24 hour dial as well as how the crosshair run through it - although it's functionality is of course unnecessary. However i like your removal of the date.
So somewhere in between.
Absolutely agree. Removing that I feel like would be removing an integral part of this watch.
Wow. I completely agree. Great video.
Im sorry, I need a date window. Be nice if it was a color matched to the edge of the dial at the 3 or 6 with a slim gold boarder. No cyclops. A bit of some angles to the hands to catch more light would be nice. This just pushes me for a cocktail seiko...
Thanks Jody good review 👍 the simple version of the Bulova looks fabulous
Simplified version all the way, less is more. Totally agree with the thoughts on the size of the lunar pilot. Side by side with the speedmaster pro it’s just massive. Even the speedmaster is a bit on the large size but at least it’s true to the heritage.
I'd be curious to see with date (3 or 6) and no 24 hour indicator. Definitely improvement by removing the 12/24 complication. Without any complications, though beautiful, I might prefer an Orient Bambino.
The bit that really bothered me (which you addressed in your version) is the font of “Aerojet”. The italics with the action lines on either side look very sporty for an otherwise classy, dressy looking watch overall.
Hello from Brazil!
As always, great video!!!
Here, prices and warranties differs a lot from the rest of world. This specific model costs more than USD 600 and offers 2 years warranty.
Seiko likewise costs much more and only offers 1 year warranty.
And to make worse, we can't find many sales in these 2 brands.
I’m usually a less is more acolyte - but this time I like the aesthetics of the sub dial and like the overall look quite a lot. No need for it to be 24h indicator though - probably better as a seconds dial, and that may help to shave off a little of the height of the watch if the second hand could go. And that’s my bigger negative on the watch, height and diameter are both too much for this type of watch.
The watch is nice minus the 24hr indicator, but the date window I don't mind at all. It is something that I'd personally find useful nultiple times during the day.
I think it's just a matter of taste, style etc. That watch has its place in the overall spectra of models. If you don't like that design, just proceed to an empty dial model. There is plenty, and I would say plenty plenty of those around. But overall, good marketing for Bulova.
Last Bulova I purchased was in the 80s , I’ve got to admit this one sparks my interest and I totally agree sales on this model would probably double if they actually removed that second dial .
I dont mind the subdial, but would rather it be for seconds (even if quartz!). It just creates some visual interest for me. As far as the date window, i gotta have it. I have terrible memory and often get asked the date since im known for knowing it with a flip of the wrist. That mineral crystal has got to go for sure. If rather have plastic i can buff. I agree with it being sized down a bit… and that movement is fine, but it’s nothing really worth looking at so I’d have it covered and allocate those funds toward something else.
I have one of their Sinatra watches. It is my only Bulova, but it is really cool.
Not sure if you have ever reviewed those, but it is something Bulova has done well.
I have 1 Bulova in my collection, The new orange devil diver. I love it. Not sure if I will be getting anymore.
I really like the 24 hour indicator, which is strange because I ordinarily do not go for subdials, period. No dates, even for prom.
So I will say i like the edit, but perhaps switch the 24 hr subdial to a nice GMT?
I appreciate the Bulova lineage, as well, but I find much of their current catalog way too cluttered. I had high hopes ( 😀 ) for Bulova's Frank Sinatra line, ( after Oris discontinued theirs.) Very retro, and attractive.
The Fly me to the Moon version has decent size, ( 40 - 20,) and a lovely uncluttered, sunburst dial. But it also has the Miyota movement, and a MSRP of over $700 USD.
Granted, for that price, you get a sapphire crystal, and a nifty deployant watchband, but it's still twice the price of the Aerojet.
I liked your tweaks to the Aerojet, and hope they can address the crown issues. I've had to return multiple watches due to crowns being too tiny or hard to engage for my ogre sized fingers.
As always, thank you for the informative and entertaining content. Have a great weekend. .
Hey Jody, love your Reviews. What do you think about the Bulova Curv Chronograph?
I see you have upped your editing a lot recently Jody. The spec text, the zoom when about to flip the camera... The details show mate, and they look good.
Your rendering would be amazing, the caveat being you'd have to downsize the case to sub-40mm. With that much dial are doing nothing, I'd say it'd look too open. Less surface area would justify the sinpler design aesthetic.
But yeah, Bulova has some awesome watches - the simpler Precisionists, the Hack, etc. - that are drowning in over the top offerings. At least it's not Invicta...yet.
The new automatic Accutrons are cool looking, thoughts?
Is the 6 lumed dot slightly out in the macro?
Agreed. Would lose the 24 hour. I would keep the date but shorten the marker at the 3 position to give a safe space
You have to understand that Bulova has been a zombie brand since 2008...owned by a Japanese conglomerate whose primary investor is the Citizen watch company.
I know that prior to the 2008 purchase, it was briefly owned by a Chinese company, who redesigned a lot of the classic Bulova designs so as to "update" and "modernize" them, and included a lot of those fake tourbillon "heart" movements, so prevalent in cheap chinese automatic watches.
Unfortunately, Citizen simply reissued those "updated" designs once they took over, except now, they've replaced most (but not all) of those cheap Chinese movements, with various Citizen ones.
Sadly most classic legacy brands like Bulova, Wittnauer (owned by the same conglomerate), Timex, and others, are now owned by several foreign companies, or are simply kept alive as zombie brands by the Chinese, banking on the past glories those brands made for themselves, over the space of decades.
Sad but good to know
Yes. Can the 24 hour dial be used as a second time zone? That would also show the location of the sun there.