Subscribe to The VPZD Show on your favorite platform and peep the transcript: zdoggmd.com/vpzd-11 00:00 Intro 02:02 Boosters, personal decision making vs. mandates 06:56 Misuse of authority, questionable COVID policies, using common sense 12:06 Employer power, predictions for future legislation, routine childhood vaccinations & collateral damage 17:52 Jumping through hoops in medicine, anti-anti-vaxxers, marijuana vs. alcohol 21:09 Masking kids, the plethora of anecdotes, why proving efficacy is important, the Swedish experience 26:48 Vaccinating small children, Pfizer's "3rd dose" plan, role of the FDA, parenting & social contagion 31:02 Culture of safetyism, long covid in kids, omicron, vaccine coercion 42:30 Joe Rogan, Spotify giving in to the mob, who's vetting the vetters? 53:48 The culture of medicine, extreme caution & being your authentic self 1:00:41 The "Urgency of Normal" toolkit, moving from pandemic to endemic 1:11:06 Twitter pros & cons, NPR piece on masking kids 1:16:09 The role of right brain vs left brain, final thoughts
When are we discussing the enormous risks of natural infection published in Nature on Feb 7, 2022? Dr. Prasad won't be touching it is my guess. For the unfamiliar 150,000 U.S. veterans after a year of natural immunity (infected before the vaccines) demonstrated a 72% increased risk of heart failure, 63% increased risk of heart attack, 52% increased risk of stroke. A severe case of covid was NOT necessary for these heart risks. If a physician has any hesitancy covering the risks of "natural immunity (all immunity is natural btw), then that physician needs a reality check in a hurry. These UA-cam physicians have been dancing around the risks of natural infection and sugarcoating the risks for too long. According to the researches at Washington University in St. Louis they are investigating whether covid infection is damaging the nerve fibers that regulate heart and lung function. If we're getting increased heart risks like this only one year out of the gate for "natural immunity" then doctors need to be shouting from the rooftops about these risks. ua-cam.com/video/QCGGVchS1w0/v-deo.html
Are you also here like me waiting for these two doctors to make videos regarding the 150,000 veterans with natural immunity for at least one year who have demonstrated 72% higher risk of heart failure. 63% higher risk of heart attack. 52% higher risk of stroke according to Washington University in St. Louis who just published their findings in Nature? Any physician at this point who utters the words "natural immunity" without mentioning the cardiovascular risks of subjecting the nerve fibers of vital organs to natural infection is violating their ethical oaths as doctors. Don't hold your breath for an in depth review by Dr. Prasad MD MPH or Phd Dr. Campbell on these findings. And what is most important to keep in mind is that a severe covid infection was NOT necessary to have increased heart complication risks only one year into the supposedly "superior natural immunity". Superior at exposing you to more covid antigen that's for sure.
@@porscheoscar if that’s a request, I’d tag it in the 1st line of comments, and duplicate until there’s a response. The discussion seems commensurate with the discuss everything agenda land that we are here for. And with the military bases, I am looking at the CDC website on waste water monitoring wondering why omicron appears to have dropped most places but military bases? So they are vaccinated 100% but have high Viral shedding. Or am I reading it wrong? Why are we not talking about viral waste water monitoring results?
I’m a healthcare worker in CO who is getting a booster forced on me after I had Omicron in January. I’m mainly disgruntled not because I think the vaccines are particularly dangerous, but because you’ve taught me just how much of an ideological virtue signal this is. Nothing hurts like having to comprise your integrity for a job
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My condolences Dr. Prasad, I left healthcare after it was clear my employer was going to force me to receive a booster. While I am not educated to the same degree you are, I consider myself to be a careful thinker with ten years of experience guiding patients through health care decisions. To have my own decision-making taken away as a term of employment felt, as you noted, like a violation.
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I am sorry this happened to you. Please don’t leave healthcare for good! We still need good thinking doctors like you. We need to start “building our own…” ❤️
I’m struggling with the same decision now…it just feels like I’m selling my soul for political benefit (not mine). What happened to looking at the individual when making medical recommendations and decisions?
BTW... we never EVER used facemasks in Sweden. It was suggested in crowded spaces at times, but never mandatory. The only place where it was kind of mandatory it was in health care environment, where it was provided for free when you got in. 😊 I love you guys! You are awesome!
You guys are really waking up to the power grab- it’s been there all along- just took y’all a while to see it. THANK you both for being able to acknowledge it out loud!!
I posted this elsewhere but I'm saying it here too. Last episode Dr. Offit spent 10 minutes explaining the power of natural immunity and then immediately contradicted himself when asked about widespread vaccination of children. More than half of all children have already had covid. Today's children will grow up having had covid many many times. They will have wonderful immune response to it as adults. To argue that children need to be vaccinated because "children become adults" is a TERRIBLE argument.
@@bullymaguire632 he's part of the FDA committee that voted in favor of EUA for kids. They had a day-long meeting on the vote and multiple times the point was made that a huge percentage of children have already had covid. The full meeting is available on UA-cam. Offit cannot plead ignorance.
@@heynow01 you're saying Dr. Offit said it is hard for him to understand the decision to vaccinate children? I've heard him say the opposite on many occasions. What he is openly opposed to is boosters for the younger crowd.
Warning: Side effects of listening to this podcast include random outbreaks of smiling, laughter and cheering. Other side effects include feeling less alone in this polarized swamp of a society. Seriously, aside from just the fantastic information you guys always impart, your discussions are so damn fun! I can't thank you both enough.
“Omicron pierces vaccine so much….that I don’t think you have an ethical or scientific case for mandating the vaccine, END OF STORY!!!” Vinay Prasad . This is why we listen. Fair, ethical and honest.
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Even if it was de best injection ever.... You don't force people to take stuff they don't want, that's insane and evil. We've let society drift away way to far, for even entertain such a thought and we allready past that line.
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25-year-old paramedic and college student here. I think I'm going to have a stroke from both work and school coercing me to get a 3rd dose 🙃. I'm healthy, not too long ago I ran 10 miles with a 50lb vest at 8000 ft above sea level. I have zero med history. I didn't even get sick during the beginning of all this mess when I was intubating covid patients without a mask before we even knew what it was. I think I'll be fine with my 2 doses, bro, but no my entire livelihood is threatened by what is essentially propaganda. It really makes me question if I really want to continue to advance my career in healthcare...
@@MaTeTris you guys need to put your foot down. Your career is meaningless if you get sick or die! I say this as a pissed off older sister of an ICU nurse who can no longer work due to myocarditis. NO JOB IS WORTH YOUR HEALTH!!!
You know these mandates are ridiculous when Vinay (an epidemiologist) was forced to get boosted. When actual health professionals see no benefit from boosting for majority of people, lose the mandates. They haven't helped.
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I watch Rogan's interviews on occasion, with my eyes open on his idiosyncrasies, because sometimes he interviews somebody I find interesting, and he lets them talk and asks questions. I listen to you, AND I LOVE IT, because you are real, and interested in figuring out the truth. 'The people who watch Joe Rogan' are all over the place, just like the rest of the world. Keep feeding yours please. I'm part of it.
You two have been the ONLY thing that has kept me somewhat sane through this pandemic. I am a young mom and have been severely depressed for two years. Thank you for all you do - I enjoy listening to you so much! ❤️🇨🇦❤️
You're absolutely right about routine vaccines. My family is done. As are several families that I know of, including an RN, a general practitioner and an orthopedic surgeon, who are all no longer vaccinating their kids for anything.
I am a doctor and never blamed the childood vaccinations for my two adult sons autism. I vaccinated them for everything and some and don't regret it. We all had Covid and we haven't taken this new unproven vaccine. The trust is gone and I weep for the fallout!
The MSM cult minions would have you believe that people who opt out of childhood _____ (can’t say it but ya know what I mean) are dumb and uneducated. It’s actually the opposite of true. Many higher income bracket parents are the ones who are opting out. Those who can afford to send their kids to private schools that don’t require them. Public schools do… I know someone who became very successful and as her circle of friends began to include people living in Silcone Valley in multi million dollar homes, she was surprised by how many moms were not getting some or even all of the _____ for their kids. She told me when the media goes on a tirade about a random case of measles or polio in someone unvaccinated what they often fail to mention is this person was here illegally from another country where that disease is endemic. It didn’t happen from an American unvaccinated child. Seriously! If it did, where did they catch it from? Think about it. Makes sense. I’m even skeptical now about all the _____ we are giving animals/pets. Both of my dogs are allergic to proteins. Dogs that can’t eat meat is not normal! That’s a major problem with their immune system.
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This is brilliant. Thank you for putting it together, for providing an index (both written and video) and also a transcript. Most especially, thanks for not standing on the sidelines shaking your heads, or jumping in to censure or criticize indiscriminately, as most of the rest of society seems to be doing with these critical issues at this juncture, but instead, modeling authenticity.
As a former RN, my job was never to mandate what my patients did. They had/have a choice. I live in NV. One of nine states remaining with the mask mandate in play. Our governor is speaking tomorrow with an update. I am not confident the mandate will be lifted. We can't save everyone. Just as when I worked in the hospital. The beauty of choice is one can wear the mask if they are concerned. There is no beauty in the word mandate.
As a teacher I COMPLETELY agree with your comments on Zoom and masks. Even now that we're back in school, it's extremely difficult to get students engaged.
I don’t listen to the news anymore- I’m grateful in finding eithical, moral and scientific truth through your expertise with caring, dedication and the levity we need right now!
Finally Dr. Z sounds rational and is not pushing the vaccine narrative. It’s good to see him speak boldly. I don’t agree that “anti-vax” people don’t know the science or are science inept. Either way, glad to here these two doctors speaking out.
I'm new to this channel. This conversation is the nuanced "middle" that I have been unable to find until now. I love the data/logic-supported honesty and straight shooting. Get these voices into the mainstream!!!
Dr Vinay Prasad thank you for being such an advocate for children. As a pediatric nurse, I cannot thank you enough so please keep it up. I have personally seen such devastating effects on our children due to unscientific mandates put upon the children who are least at risk from covid.
So basically everything we have been worried about from the beginning of this pandemic has come to fruition. Give the government a little power and BAM, here we are.
I said this from the first time I saw vinay, the man’s been clucking for a JRE appearance. This is why he’s focusing on certain things and acting like the entire world is “cancelling” rogan.
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I listened to this two days ago on Spotify and am so happy to see you made it available on UA-cam as well. Such a great discussion. It's guys like Zdogg and Prasad that are helping so many others find their voices. Keep up the great work guys - you're more appreciated than you could ever know.
"As of 6 February 2022, based on publicly available official UK and US data, all age groups under 50 years old are at greater risk of fatality after receiving a COVID-19 inoculation than an unvaccinated person is at risk of a COVID-19 death. All age groups under 80 years old have virtually no benefit from receiving a COVID-19 inoculation, and the younger ages incur significant risk." From the Abstract of pre-print
I really enjoy listening to Vinay. His rational is so great to hear in a world where it feels like the people making decisions are falling through a black-hole without any way to stop themselves. I don't rate Zdogg too much because I've listened to him advocating for rewarding people for getting vaccinated, which automatically discriminates against people who don't get vaccinated.
The UK stopped the healthcare workers mandate. As the situation has changed with Omricon and our healthcare system has so much backlog. It was more important to keep their staff. I just hope they all start to discuss openly Natural immunity
One of the best podcasts I’ve listened to in awhile! You guys are great, make sooo much sense and are funny too! The powers that be should listen to you. 😃
Wow! This is seriously the best podcast I have listened to in months. Thank you both for your courage in speaking out about what you believe regardless of the vitriol I’m sure you receive from both sides. As one who also seeks a middle perspective I find this channel to be one of my key sources of information. Thank you!
Loved this...i am a healthy 63 yr old woman from nz who works in healthcare. I am going to repeat your rant on boosters to my bosd when asked why im not getting the booster..i dont f@ckin need it..early retirement for me..so angry!!
I did start rewinding ...and listened again, and I will do it again and again !! This from an avid fan of yours... and a conservaterian grandma of 7 grandchildren and a group of, under and near 40 parents to these kiddos!!!!
Both of you are awesome to listen to!! I am a nurse at a university in Texas, I am blessed to not work a shift job or to work on weekends. I can’t imagine the hard work nurses working at a shift in hospitals and Long Term Care settings especially during this 2+ long years of ongoing COVID pandemic. VP should become a lawyer for medical community since he knows medicine and argues like a lawyer. VP should get into the government sector like Dr. Fauci so he can give solid evidence based truths along with Dr. Z to the policy makers who are trying to mandate anything without evidence based science in the future years. It will be very interesting to see you two involved in our governmental medical mandate decision policy efforts where you both win the Left and the Right hearts by speaking scientific truth with respect to both parties. Dr. Z should also study law, and have his podcasts, so should VP, continue your podcasts, professional teaching, and study law to defend the honorable medical profession with legal aspects. You both CAN do it!!!! I listen to your UA-cam channel while driving back home from work on my one hour drive. Very entertaining and informative! Love both your channels!!!!
Listening to you Docs is so therapeutic! ☺️🙏Thank you so much for everything you do to educate us and raise our awareness with truthful and evidence-based medicine. Thank you 🙏
Probably my two favorite people to watch, in real-time, getting "red pilled" about everything have been Dr. Prasad and Saagar at Breaking Points. I like them both, so glad to see they are on the way to figuring it out, in the end.
Mom of two here who got blasted for being insensitive and not caring about older people(which I’ve started to internalize and maybe believe) which is interesting that you pointed out it’s kind of a civil war of the 90 kids and our parents. They care more about themselves and didn’t see their grandchildren for a year and didn’t empathize with them being stuck at home with no friends getting depressed and anxious!! But yeah because I emphatically apposed the lockdowns and masking of K-12 I was the bad guy. It’s nice to not be alone and have Data on our side. Too bad it’s not shifting things in time here in Oregon. The untold damage is done.
Totally agree with your risk assessment for a young, healthy person. What is the real risk assessment of continuous spike protein in our system from boosters?
I waited almost a year to get my booster due to the mandate. Getting a booster after 4-5 months after your 2nd shot to me is idiotic if you're not 65 yrs or older, and/or have comorbidities
I think this is a great question. I never got the vax and did get covid. Now I have some strange sensations around my heart. Also my heart rate is now chronically elevated - by about 5 bpm. Based on what Dr Malone says, the likely cause is the spike protein - which is why there are also similar heart problems for both people getting the mRNA vax and COVID. Would love to get the docs' thoughts on this.
Thanks another enjoyable and poignant segment. Common sense left most if healthcare long ago. Primary care by checklist included. As a public health nurse, I feel your pain. Nothing done in the last years followed any public health and infection prevention rules that I learned. Hope we can get through this. The adverse effects on our children are likely irreversible. As well as us disgruntled health care workers!
Thank you so much for rowing your life raft down the middle of this nasty river of misinformation and politicized sludge-we’re swimming alongside y’all and holding on. It’s nice to hear sane people reasoning their way through this mess. We’re all here for it. Well, that and Vinay’s laugh!
I love you guys and your podcast and videos are the reason that I myself, a 51-year-old man, got vaccinated. However, and I hope you or someone else can respond to this, you let loose already in the first 10 minutes of this video with the blonde honest truth about boosters and masks yet I constantly feel like you want to but resort to tiptoeing around vaccinations for healthy children. From the data, it seems like even that is absolutely unnecessary unless you’re not healthy and have obesity or other comorbidities. Is there a hesitation on your part to take that position?
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First time on hearing your joint podcast though I’ve watched both your individual UA-cam channels. Good to hear you are giving yourself permission to express what a third of the worlds population has been feeling since the end of 2020. For many of us that’s been based on following continuing medical science as it tracks the changes in SARS COV2 and its effect on our bodies. It would surprise me to hear that you two are not following channels like Merogenomics, Peak Prosperity and Thinking Slow, but I guess not. As you’ve both admitted to your vaccination would it not be prudent (out of self interest but also out of the opportunity to keep your patients and followers informed) to watch carefully for the safety signals that are already appearing? The risk of life shortening (should it be an effect that is discovered) would be an even stronger argument not to apply RNA/DNA therapy to younger healthy people with good vitamin D status. Keep up the good work please 😊
Thank you, Vinay (& Zdogg ;) ) - as a common sense, not medical background, human - thank you, you get it. We are indeed angry at being forced. I have feared what the reaction to the virus was going to do to society as a whole from the beginning. My fears have all been confirmed.
I'm a pediatrician in the rural deep south. It's astounding to me how different the perspective is with parents here and covid attitudes about kids (vaccine and infection) relative to what you describe in California. It's like 2 different worlds. My position on vaccines mirrors yours, and I've had NO parents upset with me for that, not a single one. I've had over a thousand pediatric patient encounters since the EOA in kids and not one upset parent. The general population is disturbingly prone to group think
Great discussion! Let me add the COVID hospitalization data is misleading at best. Anybody admitted to the hospital is tested for COVID. When tested positive upon admission to the hospital the case is counted as "COVID hospitalization". This can explain relatively high number of hospitalized kids during Omicron wave. The issue is that in LA for example at some point almost 25% of tested were positive. If we take this rough estimate we should have seen 1 in 4 patient admitted during the peak week tested positive to COVID regardless of the original reason of hospitalization. There is a great analysis of insurance claims data showing that about 30-40% of these hospitalizations during Delta and original variant waves were unrelated to COVID. The percentage of unrelated hospitalizations should be higher now when we have highly infectious and less virulent variant. Death data has the same problem and it is all over US.
I heard someone describing himself in pristine health and does epidemiology for a living, that supreme confidence to be sure of what should be done to his body! A lot of people feel that way all the time wisely or not. I am not that confident about my own health, don't have a medical degree, when faced with highly qualified doctors of opposing views, I don't know whom to listen to. Sometimes I dislike someone too sure of himself.
8:00 The policy makes perfect sense, if you see the vaccination as a filter mechanism for compliance. Those who comply with the vaccine (such as myself, I got vaccinated), and the booster (I am calling BS now), will also comply with other things. And corporations (which universities sadly enough have become) like compliant workers.
I loved the call out!!! It's shocking to me how few intelligent well intended people are so silent and didn't get into the game of reasearch for their own families and friends. So weird!
Sadly, I’m already seeing a lot of push back of routine immunizations for babies from parents in the NICU. I’ve worked in the NICU for 10 years and I’ve never seen anything like this before. It’s so sad.
@@Therealb1gk continuing on GG's reply: ... leaving these incredibly "expensive" and treasured NICU babies vulnerable to completely preventable and sometimes deadly childhood diseases that were essentially eradicated decades ago by vaccines.
Ive always said this.. schools in US closing randomly because teachers are too scared to go to work. But yet, the same students would not go to school and yet go to daycare in the same facility. So, under paid daycare workers are expendable...? If you as a teacher are too afraid to go to work because of Covid then pick a different profession. Walmart workers see hundreds people daily and HAVE to go to work and dont have a choice.
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Subscribe to The VPZD Show on your favorite platform and peep the transcript: zdoggmd.com/vpzd-11
00:00 Intro
02:02 Boosters, personal decision making vs. mandates
06:56 Misuse of authority, questionable COVID policies, using common sense
12:06 Employer power, predictions for future legislation, routine childhood vaccinations & collateral damage
17:52 Jumping through hoops in medicine, anti-anti-vaxxers, marijuana vs. alcohol
21:09 Masking kids, the plethora of anecdotes, why proving efficacy is important, the Swedish experience
26:48 Vaccinating small children, Pfizer's "3rd dose" plan, role of the FDA, parenting & social contagion
31:02 Culture of safetyism, long covid in kids, omicron, vaccine coercion
42:30 Joe Rogan, Spotify giving in to the mob, who's vetting the vetters?
53:48 The culture of medicine, extreme caution & being your authentic self
1:00:41 The "Urgency of Normal" toolkit, moving from pandemic to endemic
1:11:06 Twitter pros & cons, NPR piece on masking kids
1:16:09 The role of right brain vs left brain, final thoughts
best pep talk ever 55:00. every junior Dr needs to hear this!
When are we discussing the enormous risks of natural infection published in Nature on Feb 7, 2022? Dr. Prasad won't be touching it is my guess. For the unfamiliar 150,000 U.S. veterans after a year of natural immunity (infected before the vaccines) demonstrated a 72% increased risk of heart failure, 63% increased risk of heart attack, 52% increased risk of stroke. A severe case of covid was NOT necessary for these heart risks. If a physician has any hesitancy covering the risks of "natural immunity (all immunity is natural btw), then that physician needs a reality check in a hurry. These UA-cam physicians have been dancing around the risks of natural infection and sugarcoating the risks for too long. According to the researches at Washington University in St. Louis they are investigating whether covid infection is damaging the nerve fibers that regulate heart and lung function. If we're getting increased heart risks like this only one year out of the gate for "natural immunity" then doctors need to be shouting from the rooftops about these risks.
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I'm just here for the anti-gas lighting. Listening to Vinay scream "what are you doing?! what are you doing?!" is therapeutic for me right now.
Me too
Are you also here like me waiting for these two doctors to make videos regarding the 150,000 veterans with natural immunity for at least one year who have demonstrated 72% higher risk of heart failure. 63% higher risk of heart attack. 52% higher risk of stroke according to Washington University in St. Louis who just published their findings in Nature? Any physician at this point who utters the words "natural immunity" without mentioning the cardiovascular risks of subjecting the nerve fibers of vital organs to natural infection is violating their ethical oaths as doctors. Don't hold your breath for an in depth review by Dr. Prasad MD MPH or Phd Dr. Campbell on these findings. And what is most important to keep in mind is that a severe covid infection was NOT necessary to have increased heart complication risks only one year into the supposedly "superior natural immunity". Superior at exposing you to more covid antigen that's for sure.
@@porscheoscar if that’s a request, I’d tag it in the 1st line of comments, and duplicate until there’s a response. The discussion seems commensurate with the discuss everything agenda land that we are here for.
And with the military bases, I am looking at the CDC website on waste water monitoring wondering why omicron appears to have dropped most places but military bases? So they are vaccinated 100% but have high Viral shedding. Or am I reading it wrong? Why are we not talking about viral waste water monitoring results?
@@porscheoscar none of those vets were vaccinated on top of their natural immunity?
I’m a healthcare worker in CO who is getting a booster forced on me after I had Omicron in January. I’m mainly disgruntled not because I think the vaccines are particularly dangerous, but because you’ve taught me just how much of an ideological virtue signal this is. Nothing hurts like having to comprise your integrity for a job
Praying for you and hoping this ends soon.
No one can force you to get booster or work for $7 an hour. If you don't like it don't work there.
I'm basically forced to be boosted here in Brazil even though i've had covid and then TWO DOSES, and I am only 16
I'm being forced to get the booster, respiratory therapist in PA to keep my job. I had covid beginning of january also.
𝕊𝕡𝕖𝕔𝕚𝕒𝕝 𝕕𝕒𝕥𝕚𝕟𝕘 𝕗𝕠𝕣 𝕪𝕠𝕦 ➺ BEAUTYZONE.CAM/Anna
Anna is a beautiful girl.
He's the person I love, he's my light
day. The way the music flows and sounds
is extravagant and fun. Anna is
icon, legend, beautiful girl, princess, inspiration,
a star. I could go on and on, understand this.
I love NBA Anna.#垃圾
My condolences Dr. Prasad, I left healthcare after it was clear my employer was going to force me to receive a booster. While I am not educated to the same degree you are, I consider myself to be a careful thinker with ten years of experience guiding patients through health care decisions. To have my own decision-making taken away as a term of employment felt, as you noted, like a violation.
𝕊𝕡𝕖𝕔𝕚𝕒𝕝 𝕕𝕒𝕥𝕚𝕟𝕘 𝕗𝕠𝕣 𝕪𝕠𝕦 ➺ BEAUTYZONE.CAM/Anna
Anna is a beautiful girl.
He's the person I love, he's my light
day. The way the music flows and sounds
is extravagant and fun. Anna is
icon, legend, beautiful girl, princess, inspiration,
a star. I could go on and on, understand this.
I love NBA Anna.#垃圾
I am sorry this happened to you. Please don’t leave healthcare for good! We still need good thinking doctors like you. We need to start “building our own…”
❤️
I resigned my health system as well. I'm RN CDE and went into a private practice group.
I’m struggling with the same decision now…it just feels like I’m selling my soul for political benefit (not mine). What happened to looking at the individual when making medical recommendations and decisions?
@@anacura9057 I hope that you can delay long enough that they have dropped this by then 🙏🏼
“Morons are setting policy. We’ve ceded to idiots. None of this is rational.”
Thank you from a nurse
Disagree. The people running the show are not dumb, they are evil.
Ditto this. From another nurse.
@@MK-ih6wp I find it difficult to distinguish between the 2.
BTW... we never EVER used facemasks in Sweden. It was suggested in crowded spaces at times, but never mandatory. The only place where it was kind of mandatory it was in health care environment, where it was provided for free when you got in. 😊
I love you guys! You are awesome!
You guys are really waking up to the power grab- it’s been there all along- just took y’all a while to see it. THANK you both for being able to acknowledge it out loud!!
“Welcome to the party, pal” Bruce Willis
I posted this elsewhere but I'm saying it here too.
Last episode Dr. Offit spent 10 minutes explaining the power of natural immunity and then immediately contradicted himself when asked about widespread vaccination of children. More than half of all children have already had covid. Today's children will grow up having had covid many many times. They will have wonderful immune response to it as adults. To argue that children need to be vaccinated because "children become adults" is a TERRIBLE argument.
Maybe he didn't have the data for how many children have had covid
@@bullymaguire632 he's part of the FDA committee that voted in favor of EUA for kids. They had a day-long meeting on the vote and multiple times the point was made that a huge percentage of children have already had covid. The full meeting is available on UA-cam. Offit cannot plead ignorance.
@@nostyle126 oh you're right, I forgot about that
@@heynow01 you're saying Dr. Offit said it is hard for him to understand the decision to vaccinate children? I've heard him say the opposite on many occasions.
What he is openly opposed to is boosters for the younger crowd.
Offit is a true believer of the pharmaceutical industry and vaccines as the answer to everything. He can't think his way out of it.
Warning: Side effects of listening to this podcast include random outbreaks of smiling, laughter and cheering. Other side effects include feeling less alone in this polarized swamp of a society.
Seriously, aside from just the fantastic information you guys always impart, your discussions are so damn fun! I can't thank you both enough.
💕
“Omicron pierces vaccine so much….that I don’t think you have an ethical or scientific case for mandating the vaccine, END OF STORY!!!” Vinay Prasad . This is why we listen. Fair, ethical and honest.
𝕊𝕡𝕖𝕔𝕚𝕒𝕝 𝕕𝕒𝕥𝕚𝕟𝕘 𝕗𝕠𝕣 𝕪𝕠𝕦 ➺ BEAUTYZONE.CAM/Anna
Anna is a beautiful girl.
He's the person I love, he's my light
day. The way the music flows and sounds
is extravagant and fun. Anna is
icon, legend, beautiful girl, princess, inspiration,
a star. I could go on and on, understand this.
I love NBA Anna.#垃圾
Even if it was de best injection ever.... You don't force people to take stuff they don't want, that's insane and evil. We've let society drift away way to far, for even entertain such a thought and we allready past that line.
I’m thankful these guys “get it” now… I’m frustrated that it has taken this long…
It’s taken too long but it’s too late now
These two need to go on Rogan
That would be wonderful!
𝕊𝕡𝕖𝕔𝕚𝕒𝕝 𝕕𝕒𝕥𝕚𝕟𝕘 𝕗𝕠𝕣 𝕪𝕠𝕦 ➺ BEAUTYZONE.CAM/Anna
Anna is a beautiful girl.
He's the person I love, he's my light
day. The way the music flows and sounds
is extravagant and fun. Anna is
icon, legend, beautiful girl, princess, inspiration,
a star. I could go on and on, understand this.
I love NBA Anna.#垃圾
Why would Rogan host them? That would be taking a huge step backwards. Wakey, wakey.
Rogan Josh I'd rather have vindaloo 😁
25-year-old paramedic and college student here. I think I'm going to have a stroke from both work and school coercing me to get a 3rd dose 🙃. I'm healthy, not too long ago I ran 10 miles with a 50lb vest at 8000 ft above sea level. I have zero med history. I didn't even get sick during the beginning of all this mess when I was intubating covid patients without a mask before we even knew what it was. I think I'll be fine with my 2 doses, bro, but no my entire livelihood is threatened by what is essentially propaganda. It really makes me question if I really want to continue to advance my career in healthcare...
Hang in there. We need people like you in that field. Only people in there that disagree will be able to change things.
@@MaTeTris you guys need to put your foot down. Your career is meaningless if you get sick or die! I say this as a pissed off older sister of an ICU nurse who can no longer work due to myocarditis. NO JOB IS WORTH YOUR HEALTH!!!
You know these mandates are ridiculous when Vinay (an epidemiologist) was forced to get boosted.
When actual health professionals see no benefit from boosting for majority of people, lose the mandates. They haven't helped.
𝕊𝕡𝕖𝕔𝕚𝕒𝕝 𝕕𝕒𝕥𝕚𝕟𝕘 𝕗𝕠𝕣 𝕪𝕠𝕦 ➺ BEAUTYZONE.CAM/Anna
Anna is a beautiful girl.
He's the person I love, he's my light
day. The way the music flows and sounds
is extravagant and fun. Anna is
icon, legend, beautiful girl, princess, inspiration,
a star. I could go on and on, understand this.
I love NBA Anna.#垃圾
So... what does this show... its NOT about your health.. its about the money...
Don't think the squirt is for folks under 40 who are thin and healthy. That's my take.
@@sandylewis8897 lmaoo never heard it being called "the squirt" before
But yes, i agree with you
@@k.dizzyy2110 I've been shadowbanned so much, that I have to find all new terminology lol.
There’s a lot of names on the Crimes Against Humanity list
I love hearing Vinay go off. This, I think, is the most addictive part of the show.
I watch Rogan's interviews on occasion, with my eyes open on his idiosyncrasies, because sometimes he interviews somebody I find interesting, and he lets them talk and asks questions.
I listen to you, AND I LOVE IT, because you are real, and interested in figuring out the truth.
'The people who watch Joe Rogan' are all over the place, just like the rest of the world.
Keep feeding yours please. I'm part of it.
Your thinking voice has been helpful! Thank you.
Dr John Campbell is also really good with the changing information of the pandemic.
Dr. Prasad, Left or right, we need to LOVE people, not loathe them. Loathing others is not healthy or good.
@ Kenny rimnel. I think that’s the most important point. Btw…sorry if I misspelled your name…can’t see.
Thank you so much, as a lay person I appreciate this wonderful, honest, education! I feel sane again. God bless you!
You two have been the ONLY thing that has kept me somewhat sane through this pandemic. I am a young mom and have been severely depressed for two years. Thank you for all you do - I enjoy listening to you so much! ❤️🇨🇦❤️
I haven't laughed this hard during intelligent conversations ever in my life. You guys are a dynamic duo and I'm all here for it
You're absolutely right about routine vaccines. My family is done. As are several families that I know of, including an RN, a general practitioner and an orthopedic surgeon, who are all no longer vaccinating their kids for anything.
I am a doctor and never blamed the childood vaccinations for my two adult sons autism.
I vaccinated them for everything and some and don't regret it.
We all had Covid and we haven't taken this new unproven vaccine.
The trust is gone and I weep for the fallout!
The MSM cult minions would have you believe that people who opt out of childhood _____ (can’t say it but ya know what I mean) are dumb and uneducated. It’s actually the opposite of true. Many higher income bracket parents are the ones who are opting out. Those who can afford to send their kids to private schools that don’t require them. Public schools do…
I know someone who became very successful and as her circle of friends began to include people living in Silcone Valley in multi million dollar homes, she was surprised by how many moms were not getting some or even all of the _____ for their kids.
She told me when the media goes on a tirade about a random case of measles or polio in someone unvaccinated what they often fail to mention is this person was here illegally from another country where that disease is endemic.
It didn’t happen from an American unvaccinated child. Seriously! If it did, where did they catch it from? Think about it. Makes sense.
I’m even skeptical now about all the _____ we are giving animals/pets.
Both of my dogs are allergic to proteins. Dogs that can’t eat meat is not normal! That’s a major problem with their immune system.
Absolutely rediculios!!! These babies DO NOT NEED THIS! 😱
𝕊𝕡𝕖𝕔𝕚𝕒𝕝 𝕕𝕒𝕥𝕚𝕟𝕘 𝕗𝕠𝕣 𝕪𝕠𝕦 ➺ BEAUTYZONE.CAM/Anna
Anna is a beautiful girl.
He's the person I love, he's my light
day. The way the music flows and sounds
is extravagant and fun. Anna is
icon, legend, beautiful girl, princess, inspiration,
a star. I could go on and on, understand this.
I love NBA Anna.#垃圾
Vinay is so much fun, even when discussing frustrating or controversial topics.
𝕊𝕡𝕖𝕔𝕚𝕒𝕝 𝕕𝕒𝕥𝕚𝕟𝕘 𝕗𝕠𝕣 𝕪𝕠𝕦 ➺ BEAUTYZONE.CAM/Anna
Anna is a beautiful girl.
He's the person I love, he's my light
day. The way the music flows and sounds
is extravagant and fun. Anna is
icon, legend, beautiful girl, princess, inspiration,
a star. I could go on and on, understand this.
I love NBA Anna.#垃圾
This is brilliant. Thank you for putting it together, for providing an index (both written and video) and also a transcript. Most especially, thanks for not standing on the sidelines shaking your heads, or jumping in to censure or criticize indiscriminately, as most of the rest of society seems to be doing with these critical issues at this juncture, but instead, modeling authenticity.
I love how you both get SO much more worked up when you're together than on you do on your individual videos. Keep the great content coming!
As a former RN, my job was never to mandate what my patients did. They had/have a choice. I live in NV. One of nine states remaining with the mask mandate in play. Our governor is speaking tomorrow with an update. I am not confident the mandate will be lifted. We can't save everyone. Just as when I worked in the hospital. The beauty of choice is one can wear the mask if they are concerned. There is no beauty in the word mandate.
This is why I love you guys. You speak real science. Real truth.
As a teacher I COMPLETELY agree with your comments on Zoom and masks. Even now that we're back in school, it's extremely difficult to get students engaged.
I don’t listen to the news anymore- I’m grateful in finding eithical, moral and scientific truth through your expertise with caring, dedication and the levity we need right now!
Finally Dr. Z sounds rational and is not pushing the vaccine narrative. It’s good to see him speak boldly. I don’t agree that “anti-vax” people don’t know the science or are science inept. Either way, glad to here these two doctors speaking out.
I'm new to this channel. This conversation is the nuanced "middle" that I have been unable to find until now. I love the data/logic-supported honesty and straight shooting. Get these voices into the mainstream!!!
Get Russell Brand on your show. Vinay can have a "who can talk the fastest " competition. Shortly followed by Zubin leading a much needed meditation.
The 3 of them can have a voice impersonation contest. Let Marty be the referee.
Dr Vinay Prasad thank you for being such an advocate for children. As a pediatric nurse, I cannot thank you enough so please keep it up. I have personally seen such devastating effects on our children due to unscientific mandates put upon the children who are least at risk from covid.
Luv you guys ! Thank you for all your REAL conversations and your bravery
So basically everything we have been worried about from the beginning of this pandemic has come to fruition. Give the government a little power and BAM, here we are.
This is one of the most satisfying discussions I've listened to recently.
I said this from the first time I saw vinay, the man’s been clucking for a JRE appearance. This is why he’s focusing on certain things and acting like the entire world is “cancelling” rogan.
This is the GREATES podcast in history! I was so mad, frustrated, and excited and laughed like crazy. The academy goes to ....Zdog & VP
Thank you, both, for your insight. You are voices shining in the dark of all of the division and vaccine craziness lately. It is so appreciated!
𝕊𝕡𝕖𝕔𝕚𝕒𝕝 𝕕𝕒𝕥𝕚𝕟𝕘 𝕗𝕠𝕣 𝕪𝕠𝕦 ➺ BEAUTYZONE.CAM/Anna
Anna is a beautiful girl.
He's the person I love, he's my light
day. The way the music flows and sounds
is extravagant and fun. Anna is
icon, legend, beautiful girl, princess, inspiration,
a star. I could go on and on, understand this.
I love NBA Anna.#垃圾
I love you both SO much! I get intellectually fed while laughing my ass off (which is a great benefit as it’s considerably large). Thank You Both.
I listened to this two days ago on Spotify and am so happy to see you made it available on UA-cam as well. Such a great discussion. It's guys like Zdogg and Prasad that are helping so many others find their voices. Keep up the great work guys - you're more appreciated than you could ever know.
"As of 6 February 2022, based on publicly available official UK and US data, all age groups under 50 years old are at greater risk of fatality after receiving a COVID-19 inoculation than an unvaccinated person is at risk of a COVID-19 death. All age groups under 80 years old have virtually no benefit from receiving a COVID-19 inoculation, and the younger ages incur significant risk."
From the Abstract of pre-print
I really enjoy listening to Vinay. His rational is so great to hear in a world where it feels like the people making decisions are falling through a black-hole without any way to stop themselves. I don't rate Zdogg too much because I've listened to him advocating for rewarding people for getting vaccinated, which automatically discriminates against people who don't get vaccinated.
The UK stopped the healthcare workers mandate. As the situation has changed with Omricon and our healthcare system has so much backlog. It was more important to keep their staff. I just hope they all start to discuss openly Natural immunity
One of the best podcasts I’ve listened to in awhile! You guys are great, make sooo much sense and are funny too! The powers that be should listen to you. 😃
Wow! This is seriously the best podcast I have listened to in months. Thank you both for your courage in speaking out about what you believe regardless of the vitriol I’m sure you receive from both sides. As one who also seeks a middle perspective I find this channel to be one of my key sources of information. Thank you!
Loved this...i am a healthy 63 yr old woman from nz who works in healthcare. I am going to repeat your rant on boosters to my bosd when asked why im not getting the booster..i dont f@ckin need it..early retirement for me..so angry!!
I did start rewinding ...and listened again, and I will do it again and again !!
This from an avid fan of yours...
and a conservaterian grandma of 7 grandchildren and a group of,
under and near 40 parents to these kiddos!!!!
Both of you are awesome to listen to!! I am a nurse at a university in Texas, I am blessed to not work a shift job or to work on weekends. I can’t imagine the hard work nurses working at a shift in hospitals and Long Term Care settings especially during this 2+ long years of ongoing COVID pandemic.
VP should become a lawyer for medical community since he knows medicine and argues like a lawyer. VP should get into the government sector like Dr. Fauci so he can give solid evidence based truths along with Dr. Z to the policy makers who are trying to mandate anything without evidence based science in the future years. It will be very interesting to see you two involved in our governmental medical mandate decision policy efforts where you both win the Left and the Right hearts by speaking scientific truth with respect to both parties. Dr. Z should also study law, and have his podcasts, so should VP, continue your podcasts, professional teaching, and study law to defend the honorable medical profession with legal aspects. You both CAN do it!!!! I listen to your UA-cam channel while driving back home from work on my one hour drive. Very entertaining and informative! Love both your channels!!!!
This is the biggest mass child abuse I've ever seen.
Listening to you Docs is so therapeutic! ☺️🙏Thank you so much for everything you do to educate us and raise our awareness with truthful and evidence-based medicine. Thank you 🙏
39:30 The kids don't vote. But their parents do... Looking forward to November!
Probably my two favorite people to watch, in real-time, getting "red pilled" about everything have been Dr. Prasad and Saagar at Breaking Points. I like them both, so glad to see they are on the way to figuring it out, in the end.
Mom of two here who got blasted for being insensitive and not caring about older people(which I’ve started to internalize and maybe believe) which is interesting that you pointed out it’s kind of a civil war of the 90 kids and our parents. They care more about themselves and didn’t see their grandchildren for a year and didn’t empathize with them being stuck at home with no friends getting depressed and anxious!! But yeah because I emphatically apposed the lockdowns and masking of K-12 I was the bad guy. It’s nice to not be alone and have Data on our side. Too bad it’s not shifting things in time here in Oregon. The untold damage is done.
Totally agree with your risk assessment for a young, healthy person.
What is the real risk assessment of continuous spike protein in our system from boosters?
I waited almost a year to get my booster due to the mandate. Getting a booster after 4-5 months after your 2nd shot to me is idiotic if you're not 65 yrs or older, and/or have comorbidities
I think this is a great question. I never got the vax and did get covid. Now I have some strange sensations around my heart. Also my heart rate is now chronically elevated - by about 5 bpm.
Based on what Dr Malone says, the likely cause is the spike protein - which is why there are also similar heart problems for both people getting the mRNA vax and COVID.
Would love to get the docs' thoughts on this.
I love you guys!!! Thanks for keeping it real every single time!
Thanks another enjoyable and poignant segment.
Common sense left most if healthcare long ago. Primary care by checklist included.
As a public health nurse, I feel your pain. Nothing done in the last years followed any public health and infection prevention rules that I learned.
Hope we can get through this. The adverse effects on our children are likely irreversible.
As well as us disgruntled health care workers!
It left the rehab area too
Yes!! You are on and on fire!!
I keep to date listening to you guys.
Thank you so much for rowing your life raft down the middle of this nasty river of misinformation and politicized sludge-we’re swimming alongside y’all and holding on. It’s nice to hear sane people reasoning their way through this mess. We’re all here for it. Well, that and Vinay’s laugh!
This was fun to listen to. I like the energy.
I love you guys and your podcast and videos are the reason that I myself, a 51-year-old man, got vaccinated. However, and I hope you or someone else can respond to this, you let loose already in the first 10 minutes of this video with the blonde honest truth about boosters and masks yet I constantly feel like you want to but resort to tiptoeing around vaccinations for healthy children. From the data, it seems like even that is absolutely unnecessary unless you’re not healthy and have obesity or other comorbidities. Is there a hesitation on your part to take that position?
𝕊𝕡𝕖𝕔𝕚𝕒𝕝 𝕕𝕒𝕥𝕚𝕟𝕘 𝕗𝕠𝕣 𝕪𝕠𝕦 ➺ BEAUTYZONE.CAM/Anna
Anna is a beautiful girl.
He's the person I love, he's my light
day. The way the music flows and sounds
is extravagant and fun. Anna is
icon, legend, beautiful girl, princess, inspiration,
a star. I could go on and on, understand this.
I love NBA Anna.#垃圾
They aren’t allowed to dissent from the Groupthink of Profit-the baby Boomers are dying out-they are the largest single generation customer base ever born-each generational size of customers remaining exponentially declines-and the birth rate of future customers is plummeting-no customer growth means No profit- enjoy being their lifelong Pincushion for Profit without any customer liability expenses
We definitely listen for Vinay!
𝕊𝕡𝕖𝕔𝕚𝕒𝕝 𝕕𝕒𝕥𝕚𝕟𝕘 𝕗𝕠𝕣 𝕪𝕠𝕦 ➺ BEAUTYZONE.CAM/Anna
Anna is a beautiful girl.
He's the person I love, he's my light
day. The way the music flows and sounds
is extravagant and fun. Anna is
icon, legend, beautiful girl, princess, inspiration,
a star. I could go on and on, understand this.
I love NBA Anna.#垃圾
I would love to see these two on Rogan!!! Let's do it Rogan! Thank you guys for your content!
Hell yes!
First time on hearing your joint podcast though I’ve watched both your individual UA-cam channels. Good to hear you are giving yourself permission to express what a third of the worlds population has been feeling since the end of 2020. For many of us that’s been based on following continuing medical science as it tracks the changes in SARS COV2 and its effect on our bodies. It would surprise me to hear that you two are not following channels like Merogenomics, Peak Prosperity and Thinking Slow, but I guess not. As you’ve both admitted to your vaccination would it not be prudent (out of self interest but also out of the opportunity to keep your patients and followers informed) to watch carefully for the safety signals that are already appearing? The risk of life shortening (should it be an effect that is discovered) would be an even stronger argument not to apply RNA/DNA therapy to younger healthy people with good vitamin D status. Keep up the good work please 😊
Dr. Prasad,
Re: Power mongers you are spot on!
Thank you, Vinay (& Zdogg ;) ) - as a common sense, not medical background, human - thank you, you get it. We are indeed angry at being forced. I have feared what the reaction to the virus was going to do to society as a whole from the beginning. My fears have all been confirmed.
You guys are the best 💯👍!!
Thank you 🙏
Vinay is such a pleasure to listen to.
I'm a pediatrician in the rural deep south. It's astounding to me how different the perspective is with parents here and covid attitudes about kids (vaccine and infection) relative to what you describe in California. It's like 2 different worlds. My position on vaccines mirrors yours, and I've had NO parents upset with me for that, not a single one. I've had over a thousand pediatric patient encounters since the EOA in kids and not one upset parent. The general population is disturbingly prone to group think
Great discussion! Let me add the COVID hospitalization data is misleading at best. Anybody admitted to the hospital is tested for COVID. When tested positive upon admission to the hospital the case is counted as "COVID hospitalization". This can explain relatively high number of hospitalized kids during Omicron wave. The issue is that in LA for example at some point almost 25% of tested were positive. If we take this rough estimate we should have seen 1 in 4 patient admitted during the peak week tested positive to COVID regardless of the original reason of hospitalization. There is a great analysis of insurance claims data showing that about 30-40% of these hospitalizations during Delta and original variant waves were unrelated to COVID. The percentage of unrelated hospitalizations should be higher now when we have highly infectious and less virulent variant. Death data has the same problem and it is all over US.
Social justice is pervasive in bureaucracies. Also, top level government “scientists” are politically motivated bureaucrats.
Love these guys. So tired of the media witch hunt and just really wanting the truth from people that actually know the science. Thanks from Canada
Fantastic DUO!
Thank goodness for you two, the only sensible information.
Loved listening to you both on these topics!
That was a classic and beautiful VP rant on mandates...awesome.
I heard someone describing himself in pristine health and does epidemiology for a living, that supreme confidence to be sure of what should be done to his body! A lot of people feel that way all the time wisely or not. I am not that confident about my own health, don't have a medical degree, when faced with highly qualified doctors of opposing views, I don't know whom to listen to. Sometimes I dislike someone too sure of himself.
Thanks for the content, Docs! Enjoyed it very much.
Besides the great info, this show made me lmfao. You guys are great together. Thanks!
Amazing conversation! Love you both!
8:00 The policy makes perfect sense, if you see the vaccination as a filter mechanism for compliance. Those who comply with the vaccine (such as myself, I got vaccinated), and the booster (I am calling BS now), will also comply with other things. And corporations (which universities sadly enough have become) like compliant workers.
I have said this from the beginning. This is all about making people do whatever the government says whether it makes sense or not.
Just finished. Going to listen to this again. Awesome convo.
I loved the call out!!! It's shocking to me how few intelligent well intended people are so silent and didn't get into the game of reasearch for their own families and friends. So weird!
I love VP. Thank you.
Vinay went OFF! Haha I love it. The comment about the ED doc “giving a PhD in common f****** sense” had me dying laughing
Vinay laughing toward the end sounded almost mad scientisty
Nice one guys, looking forward to another one with Marty joining you guys, last one was hilarious!
Love listening to you both!
Sadly, I’m already seeing a lot of push back of routine immunizations for babies from parents in the NICU. I’ve worked in the NICU for 10 years and I’ve never seen anything like this before. It’s so sad.
Why’s that sad?
@@Therealb1gk because a lot of parent don’t want their babies to get their routine shots
@@Therealb1gk continuing on GG's reply: ... leaving these incredibly "expensive" and treasured NICU babies vulnerable to completely preventable and sometimes deadly childhood diseases that were essentially eradicated decades ago by vaccines.
Ive always said this.. schools in US closing randomly because teachers are too scared to go to work. But yet, the same students would not go to school and yet go to daycare in the same facility. So, under paid daycare workers are expendable...?
If you as a teacher are too afraid to go to work because of Covid then pick a different profession. Walmart workers see hundreds people daily and HAVE to go to work and dont have a choice.
To be fair your Walmart customers probably don't sneeze into your eyes. Or maybe they do 😅
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This is BEYOND gross incompetence, bordering on nefarious.
Thank you so much . I wish you both success .
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