@@CMA418 Might be better to say he doesn't like the social media pressure to fire someone that influences censoring the content and that which causes the firing of someone. That should be at the top level. But you're right that is does stem from social media blowing up and taking out of proportion sayings like this.
Real "health care" starts with taking care of your health (Nutrition, Exercise, Stress Management, and Sleep). Most conversations about "health care" are about how to pay for stuff, but not about how we have a healthier population.
100%. Ive been a paramedic for the last 24 years so have experience with the "healthcare" system. A few years ago I decided to get healthy. In my 40s I lost 80lbs, learned to eat healthy and prioritize excersize and sleep. I have never felt better and rarely feel "sick"
I am an Internal Medicine physician, our “healthcare” system is a disease treatment system. We need to develop a “lifestyle choices, avoiding systemic chronic inflammation and wellbeing” system. True population health management, such that we care for our most precious asset, our fellow humans. Thank you for the frank and open dialogue
Trump put a female general contractor in charge of a major Manhattan project in the 1980s. When everyone thought it was crazy and she was tough as nails and brought it in under budget.
Is that when his policy of fucking over his contractors started? by refusing to pay and bringing contractors to brink of bankruptcy so they accept a couple cents on the dollar? yes such GOOD business practices
This isn't the 80s anymore. He is a misogynistic dictator. And when when the whole system falls apart around you and democracy and the constitution is destroyed, anyone who thought he was this God sent to save us all will be blindsided, wondering where did it all go wrong?
Man this is refreshing! I am so sick of being called racist, a bad parent, or whatever, by people who were my friends 3 days ago I'm a woman and disabled and I'm tired of people telling me who I need to vote for. Thank you guys for being smart and thinking for yourselves!
@nutritiousyogi Trump being a pos and surrounding himself with other pos'es is to blame not the media as most people don't even watch the so called, "mainstream media"
If you're disabled, be prepared to say bye, bye to Medicaid and Medicare. Oh, and your disability checks. I really hope you didn't vote for Trump because that will be what happens. I'll be here saying, "I told you so!!!"
Thank you for this. I’m independent who voted for Harris. I was disappointed and this is just what I needed to hear. Our country is going to be just fine and I hope that our president elect will do good things. Perhaps in four years both parties will come up with better Candidates/better plans. I will fight for the things I believe especially reproductive rights. I may not like Trump, but yes, he is our president.
The good news is that those "reproductive rights" are put in the hands of the states. No one has taken anything away and Trump has always maintained that the residents in each respective states should vote how they want on this course.
1st covid-19 infection almost killed me severe asthma ended up with long covid-19 severe autonomic neuropathy, severe gastroparesis, pots, severe me/cfs proven in testing. I try my best to wear a mask when out in groups but I don't know what another infection will do to me. My basic life functions no longer work I have autonomic failure. Let people have their masks if make them feel safer.. We don't know what they are dealing with..
@@trifectamarc6705yes, exactly. This channel has changed a lot for the worse since I became a supporter almost 4 years ago. Just stopped the $ and unsubbed this dude became more and more entitled and knows it all. Would like to see him respond to rfk's recent tweets OMG lol, Infectious Disease docs are going to be doing brisk business 😅
I’m brown, Asian an RN, GOP since became naturalized U.S. citizen . I voted for Trump. 🇺🇸❤️ Moral relativism and crazy liberalism need to be toned down, sovereignty, illegal immigration, aid to wars and yes throw inflation in that… for Trump! ✅❤️
@@morningperson707more importantly, what does it mean to you? I also voted for Trump for exactly the same reasons, because I love women, LGB and people of all races & religion & want to see an end to the suffering the party in power has created on a global scale.
@@DamnitJerry11 I did not use those terms and I asked the question of someone else. I actually don’t even use these terms at all so what they mean to me is inconsequential. I am interested in the OP’s answer since they used these terms. I am trying to gain clarity on what that means. Attacking, disparaging or blaming others or other points of view does not make for meaningful or constructive discussion.
Scientific American has become more propaganda than science communication. It's so disappointing, as it used to be such a respected journal. Many of my colleagues in the sciences have abandoned the journal in recent years, myself included
Best case scenario, Helmuth is dead wrong, the republicans prove they aren't fascists and don't want a Christian Theocratic Oligarchy, the Dems calm down and pick better candidates, and we all laugh about the hysteria in 20 years thinking a reality TV star was Hitler. Worst case scenario, history repeats itself, and in 20 years all the "bad people" are gone.
i read SA and find it factual and varied in topic, not falling for the drumming of "propaganda" by those trying to push their own agenda, primarily looking to block bold climate action.
Obama care saved my life. I can’t get insurance due to preexisting conditions. Take it away many of us will die. There is no penalty, that was done away with.
Its like letting everybody get on the titanic. Its true it saved some people (like yourslef) and thats good, but its also bankrupting our country and rapidly declining in quality of care. This is why Im hopeful rfk jr can actually overhaul the systematically corrupt system that is profitting off of our increasing ilness.
So many understand your plight don't let those few make you feel badly. Let's face it, it could have just as easily gone the other way and people would be nasty and say someone deserved death from COVID for not getting jab. We were all working with what we knew and thought was hopefully best choice@@barbloft
@@StirlingVideoLoungeNo compassion everyone had a choice. The people who got the jab were awful to those who did not. You value your job over your life.
As an insurance broker, I can safely say that the ACA grossly sped up the rate in which health insurance premiums are rising. The data that suggests the ACA halted the rise in cost does not factor in employers reducing the level of coverage to employees or state/federal subsidies. It is intentionally misleading. The cost of the plans are significantly higher due to additional mandated coverages, taxes on premiums and no provisions in the bill to reduce cost. I’d be happy to detail this for you further if you’d like to reach out.
Mandates to cover costs so that the insurance you pay for actually covers something, instead of giving free money to the rip off insurance company and getting nothing in return Insurance is the biggest scam on the planet. That is why mandates are necessary The real culprit is now and in the past and in the future the insurance company bottom line. Take a look at profits and compensation I know, I work for one
Insurance companies, hospitals, Big Pharma and physician groups 100% get away with a lot that they shouldn’t be. In regards to the insurance companies, they still are paying out an awful lot in claims, which is a direct reflection of how much health care costs. You may pay $20k a year for coverage, which all goes towards that $1 million claim your coworker has. In that sense, you are correct in that you receive nothing for your health insurance premiums. One of the biggest issues I see is the poor metabolic health of our citizens and the poisoning of our food supply. See Bill Maher’s Fudge Report to scratch the surface.
the ACA is actually a design of the Heritage Foundation (which is going to have a lot of influence here on out). Unfortunately Trump had promised an improvement on the ACA and could not come up with one last term.
I’ve only heard RFK Jr. talk about vaccines a couple of times, and both times he’s stated that he’s not against vaccines but wants good studies to analyze and ensure their safety. Maybe he’s said something different at other times, but the statements I’ve heard seem reasonable and in line with the kinds of comments I’ve heard from both of you regarding the need for good evidence for any medical interventions.
He has made some questionable claims, but yeah hes not some anti vax nut, he has real plans that make total sense, and hes 100% spot on re corporate capture and the problems with our food system. Im very hopeful he can affect real change, and Im glad he got the job (hopefully he gets confirmed)
The problem with RFK is that nothing ever convinces him there are good studies. "Be afraid of vaccines and what THEY'RE doing to you" is his schtick and he sticks to it no matter what the evidence is. He's not trying to inform people he's trying to scare people into following him He's said worse than what you've heard, he sticks to the "just asking questions" game when he's trying to seem reasonable to a wider audience. And then after he just asks questions he gives a pile of reasons why he's skeptical that are all bullshit: easily disproven Facebook memes, studies he's misread, bullshit he made up. People correct him or show him he's wrong and he just keeps going everywhere saying the same shit. If there's no amount of evidence that "X is true" will stop you from going on TV every day and asking "is X true? I just want to know if X is true, here's why I don't think X is true" you're not just asking questions in good faith-you're deliberately misleading people
You really want him to be in charge of health? Does he look or sound healthy to you? Hell no!!!! If he can't take care of himself, how will he take care of an entire country. Look at him. He's the epitome of unhealthy. I am 10 years younger than him and he looks 30 years older than me!! HE IS N0T QUALIFIED!!!!
Regarding the therapists making things worse…as a reformed therapist 😅, there is some truth in what you said indeed. Coddling people’s emotions is a slippery slope in this context. Helping people to think more dialectically, to challenge their dichotomous thinking about situations, to bolster their ability to tolerate disappointment or any negative valenced emotion is important. Generationally we are seeing less emotional resilience in our younger folks for a multitude of reasons. Thanks guys!
As a patient of 8 different therapists, all of which were shit except 1(who was amazingly helpful), I think your position could use some more nuance. Devil's advocate: "Coddling people’s emotions is a slippery slope in this context" True! So is dismissing people's emotions. Sometimes people's emotions are justifiable given their perception, but also given their reality. "Oh, you're going to lose your healthcare? Oh boo hoo poor baby.", "Oh you accidentally got pregnant but you can't afford to raise a child? Well you shouldn't have been so stupid. Now you have to pay.", "Oh you care about Palestinian kids? Get over it, kids die every day." "Helping people to think more dialectically" No argument from me here. "challenge their dichotomous thinking about situations" One side saying: He's Hitler. A threat to democracy. All. his supporters are garbage. "They" will make abortion illegal. "They" want a Christian Theocracy. Other side saying: "They" want to destroy this country. "They" are ripping full grown babies from the womb everyday. All their supporters are groomers. The enemy within can be dealt with by the military "if necessary"(no he wasn't referring to illegal immigrants). We need the Bible to be taught in schools(Oklahoma). I'll only be a dictator on day one(yuk yuk, wink wink) What would you honestly expect to see when the "leaders" on both sides use rhetoric like this? Fear=$,$$$,$$$,$$$….. "to bolster their ability to tolerate disappointment" I agree this ability is, in my experience, hard-won and well worth it. I see it as a sign of emotional maturity. At the same time, it does seem the poster child for not having the ability to tolerate disappointment is the President Elect; and he is a role model for ALOT of people. "I am your retribution." for your disappointment. "or any negative valenced emotion" Again I agree. (see above comment) Though some people won't tolerate negative valence emotions, they simply take it out on others and blame them(BLM, JAN 6). This not even close to being exclusive to one side, I'm sure you'd agree. "Generationally we are seeing less emotional resilience in our younger folks for a multitude of reasons" Also agreed. Having had to do it the hard way and mostly on my own, I do what I can for those around me. However, I must ask, is there a single demographic in this country who hasn't been told-and so believe-that they are victims of an unfair system? Seriously name one. lol
Love you guys. Anecdotally, when I moved to Hawaii after a lifetime of midwestern fluoride in the water, the dentist literally called in other providers in the office to show them my beautiful teeth, and said this is what fluoride in the water does.
Growing up, I had zero cavities and my sister had a buch, but we both had the same diet, moslty unflouridated well water, etc. There is definitly more to it than flouride...
I have to say something in defense of being upset on finding out Trump won. I was angry and sad, because I am the child of a parent who fought in WW2. To me, people have forgotten what those men sacrificed for. We don't want another Hitler type in power. If your parents were in India at the time or grandparents an sure they didn't enjoy ANY of it. Furthermore, I think that Trump may allow Putin to take Ukraine and build a new USSR. I have relatives and religious friends in Ukraine being half Ukranian myself. I find that people in the US just sold our souls to the Devil incarnate. If you are of color and poor, also look out.
The lived experience of irrational Covid policies ABSOLUTELY made me reconsider and rethink everything. I fought like heck and walked a balance beam to give my kids what they needed during the insanity. It also radicalized me- I will NEVER trust the CDC on anything. I was willing to go along to be a member of a community where we all make compromises but I saw how that was abused as in this blue area it dragged on and on and on. This is literally my children’s first year of completely normal school again. (And some kids & teachers are still wearing masks off & on-so 95 percent back to normal.)
RN here. Covid woke me up BIG TIME. I too will never trust CDC (and most other current day govt agencies as they exist today) again. Nothing made sense. Basically, just started doing the opposite of whatever nonsense they spouted. We exercised, got outside into sunshine, ate healthy, kept positive and stopped listening to alphabet news. We are living in interesting and exciting times and I think the sleeping bear has been awakened 😊…
ZDOGG - you two are saying teens are impressionable. Um, you were impressionable. You were late to the party on many things Covid and honestly you still have a long way to go on understanding it all. You were all in on vaccines and mask wearing for a VERY long time.
And they’re still trusting in the “data” for the childhood vaccine schedule knowing data can be manipulated and without looking at the ties between the companies providing the “data” and the FDA.
That is why I was so surprised to hear this take. I am liking what I'm hearing but why didn't we say this stuff earlier. If it just turns out you believed stuff but were wrong you should do a video specifically addressing that and falling on the sword not just pretending like you were on this train the whole time. Recommending this shot for kids and healthy teens was a crime
exactly. they were both supporting the official line, although Vinad was more critical of many CDC policies. If, as Vinad said, during that time they had to be very circumspect in their comments, then yes I can accept that. I’m hoping that is the case.
I love it when you team up together. It’s been fun watching you both come to realizations from covid till now. As a woman, (I can define that as well, BTW) I was bullied hard by other women who cannot define what that is to vote for a cackling hyena so that my daughters can abort my granddaughters. Make it make sense. I’m exhausted being told all the things “I am” as a woman who voted for Trump. Not a single one of the categorizations are accurate. I work two jobs, drive a hybrid, have a degree, married to the same man 31 years (he wouldn’t dare tell me how to vote-and wouldn’t matter if he tried!) I have raised three wonderfully contributing to society, children-two of those daughters who married strong men. Neither of them ever needed a pregnancy test prior to marriage, let alone an abortion because I raised them to respect themselves and travel in groups at all times. I donate a large chunk of my time to help those less fortunate than myself and my money as well. I don’t have a racist bone in my body, nor am I deplorable. I frequently feed those at my table who have differing opinions than mine because I am a grownup! I’m one of those “Gen X Folks” the one post was complaining about. We came out in full force for Trump because we’re old enough to remember the 80’s. None of us give a darn what you do in private. Just don’t force me to participate in your delusions, give porn to my kids, allow men in my bathrooms and sports! Find the 300K missing children, get the 400K+ criminal illegal aliens out of my country, and build the freaking wall. Why is common sense so uncommon?
My friend who has myeloma and is in her 30’s is in the hospital right now with Covid. I still think that minimizing it for everyone just pushes those of us who know we are vulnerable into corners.
Thank you for this episode! I felt like maybe I was crazy that a number of my doctor friends are “crying” over the election and making sweeping conclusions about what’s going to happen the next 4 years and I’m actually not worried at all. I loved your lines, “Get free from the extremes, think for yourself”. I also agree this is completely driven by the media which is the saddest part of the whole thing. The people who are supposed to be reporting the news are telling how to think and feel. “Irrational emotions’” is an understatement! Loved the comments on the direction you hope healthcare goes. The humor is fun as well…helped me not cry all day, lol. And I’m fine with the swearing personally. Be authentic!
The fact that Trump's 2016-2020 mandate was relatively innocuous all things considered doesnt necessarily mean this one will be. Especially given how much we know about the people around him that acted as gaurdrails that he has effectively replaced with loyalists this time around. It's possible to be a serious person who is deeply concerned about American Democracy in this moment. Its okay to wake up feeling a bit scared and pessimistic about this, this doesnt deserve ridicule becsuse you may not feel it. I've listened to a lot of center right and right people that are also deeply frightened. It isn't even especislly partisan. I take your point about trying to avoid being hysterical, but the anxiety is perfectly understandable.
I hear you exactly. Besides being very anti-woke I am more concerned about the federal bureaucracy and its need to grow. If Trump did not win, this deep state would have free rein to codify measures to muzzle detractors (weaponized justice system…as we’ve seen). We’ve already seen censorship and the ‘control of the narrative’ by proxy media outlets. Trump goes off script and may slow the progression of government control. The main reason I voted for Trump is that it will be easier to get rid of him than the liberal elites. Federal bureaucracy….’deep state’… an egregore.
I agree with this completely and it's how I am feeling too. International affairs alone is a reason to be scared. The man is not a moral person and seems to have some kind of dementia. I think being concerned is a perfectly valid response.
Past behavior is a strong predictor of future behavior. We cannot help those that insist on living in a negative loop. Good luck with doomsday imagining as this will only lead to depression. Can't see the forest for the tree. If it's so terrible, cheer yourself up by planning a move out of country and returning in 4yrs or spend all your time protesting.
I appreciate this conversation so much. Being a middle person that wasn’t worried on who won. And has been an agree to disagree but still be friends. Thank you for this conversation.
I'm a Dentist and just putting my 2 cents in. With fluoridation my biggest concern is for kids - especially from early childhood up to say 10-12 years old where hygiene habits pretty poor. I work at a FQHC and see mostly of patients coming from non-fluoridated communities in Central/South America and these kids can have some major dental issues. I'm not talking about "sticks" here as you guys mentioned - we're talking huge holes, resulting pain, possible infection on both their baby and adult teeth. Even the vast majority of adults I see from these communities are missing their permanent 1st molars at the very least - the difference is just night and day compared to looking at the overall population which grew up in the states. Obviously I'm not pointing to fluoridation as the silver bullet here and poverty, diet, lack of access to care all play roles. That said, I think its a wonderful population-wide intervention, especially to the poor or those without access. In a way I think the general population is ignorant of it's benefit because of it's effectiveness. The other thing touched on is "what is a cavity" - something I struggle with and I think all dentists struggle with on a daily basis. The truth is those little sticks are totally asymptomatic and so anything you say to the patient is naturally going to met with skepticism. That said, there's no doubt that some fillings in which there's early intervention can help mitigate future pain and possible need for additional, costly, not to mention difficult procedures. It doesn't take a dental degree to know if you fill a hole while its small then food/associated bacteria cant get in there to make it bigger. Where I agree with you guys is the lack of concrete evidence of when to make that intervention and of course it comes down to a someone's clinical judgement and obviously there's an incentive there to treat in order to make money. I cant speak too much regarding braces - orthodontics isn't something I do and I'm not well read on it. The concept of beauty - 100% agree. I have people come in with perfectly natural, healthy teeth looking to do all sorts of work because of a gap or a space. At that point its really a moral issue - akin to cosmetic plastic surgery in my opinion. If they want to do treatment and know the associated risks and pay the bill I'll cringe privately but do the best I can to provide that for that patient. The last thing I'll say - this post is long but this is cathartic - is the talk of radiographs. Please just look at the mSv dose on a bitewing dental radiography - we're not talking about at CT here where there's big, serious dosages - at most we're talking single-digit days of background radiation. The benefit we get from that is we can see holes - sometimes pretty large holes - between teeth I just simply cant from looking in the mouth. From a cost-benefit standpoint, I think benefits blow any downside, besides perhaps an added financial burden, out of the water. The more important question and would love to see good lit on is frequency of those radiographs - are we doing those like every 6 mo,1 year, maybe even 2-5 years for someone whose got a lower risk of cavities? Very tough call right now for the truly objective dentist and sadly its often being dictated by how often insurance will pay.
I used to live in San Antonio TX, a city without fluoridation, at least when I lived there. The US Public Health Service dentists trained there because the general dental health of the city was horrific and on the level of a third world nation. My friends who were born and raised were always having issues with caries and absessed teeth.
@@MichalMudd I grew up in northern area of San Antonio and confirm I got cavities on almost everyone of my teeth from 5 to 17 years when I moved away to attend college in Michigan (Ann Arbor). I did brush my teeth twice daily with children’s toothpaste.
As you said, it has a lot to do with diet. We live in the most prosperous country in the world, we shouldnt be using flouride as a band aid for some of the side effects of our bad diets. Forcing everyone to drink it daily when it really is only important for kids and those with unhealthy diets, when chem companies are making millions off of selling it to us..... Should raise red flags.
@MK-ih6wp you're right they did at it for a reason. World War 2 (I believe it was that war or may have only been for Iodine). They did it as there were dental issues disqualifying many from service due to the issues caused from poor diet caused by the depression. Fluoride and iodine do have benefits and were made for a calculated reason
From the bottom of my heart, THANK YOU BOTH for the humorous and immature content mixed in with the serious stuff. I love listening to people talk about serious things, but I found myself so anxious listening to election commentary the last couple days. As soon as I saw it you guys had this video, I ended the other one I was listening to and came here. This is what the world needs! And as always, thank you for your expertise and expert opinions on healthcare. ❤
I loved that you talked about Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs on your show. I said the exact same thing to a friend the day after the election. As a retired RN, we learned about this early on in our education. People need to meet their basic needs first before they can consider the bull***t pie in the sky ideologies of the left.
Yes and the pushing of woke ideologies onto everyone. Most people don’t care if people are LBGTQ. They are not racist they simply don’t care until it affects them in crazy ways. They get up in arms about having men in women’s sports, having men in women’s bathrooms and having children be allowed to change their sex biologically prior to full brain development . Do it as an adult- no problem. Tired of the minority pushing these woke ideas onto the majority and economics is why Trump won. They would rather have an A hole in office than someone with vague promises pushing “ woke” agenda. Many people have moral conflict with abortion. They have a right to their moral beliefs as much as those that believe Trump is immoral for his actions and reversing Roe vs. Wade. I can see both sides without going crazy.
My wife introverted too, but she’s always happy that she got out. Social event can drain her and it fills my cup. It’s funny how different personalities take to social situations.
My favorite surgeon general moment was in April 2020 when Jerome Adams showed us how to make a face covering out of an old “got naloxone?” t-shirt😂 The last thing he said on the video (on UA-cam) was “It’s that easy”✋😷🤚
I’m a Canadian social worker retired after COVID With mandatory DEI at 63 years old I just couldn’t continue…. Love your input especially during & after pandemic response. Freedom of Speech & thought. 💜🙏
Love you guys. Great show. But as a DO that hurt a little VP. Also I work with a DNP and ARNP that work a hospitalists and I think they are better than some MD or DO hospitalists I’ve worked with.
If you care: I’ve never noticed a difference between a DO and an MD. Maybe one can artificially parse out differences if you’re an ivory tower physician but when faced with the blood and guts of an ER…OR….or even ‘just’ a floor…or worse, a clinic…the differences are literally academic. So…rock on and kick ass you crazy DO! (I’m an old double Boarded MD…if it matters)
Nobody has a “right” to someone else’s labor or services. They do have a right to seek services like healthcare, and we might want to have policies to make getting and paying for healthcare easier, but it’s not a “right.”
How refreshing. And yes. Each individual vaccine should be scrutinized. Ideally for whether it actually prevents transmission, not just produces antibodies. And whether health is actually improved for having the vaccine. (Not just the absence/reduction of a specific virus/bacteria) Basically more science like what Aaby does. (I was very vax skeptical as a new mum, and I ended up going with the MMR based on his studies in Africa).
I did cry, but now I’m pissed. But that’s not because there is something off with me that requires therapy. As a woman, in Florida this week, we lost the rights to our bodies, and thats is very real feeling of despair and a feeling of “less then”
@@philipedwards241 Most of FL is red up and down, my county (Palm Beach, yep Trumps’s county) is a small blue lake in the ocean of red…. FL always disappoints…
Yes to live, great show! I appreciate your unfiltered dialog, especially from the Bay Area bubble. Keep 'talking shit,' it feels honest, and you guys have the chemistry to make it entertaining. Vinay should be part of the incoming administration. We need his youth, his energy, to influence and learn, to carry the coming successes into the future.
Regarding 1:07 and Dentistry.....Dentist here - after you see enough kids go through hell with their teeth and get developmentally messed up because of it, you start treating superficial pit and groove decay every time because you never know how deep those go, even when you have x-rays. We take interproximal x-rays every year because those things move FAST when they get started. I often see huge differences in 6 months or less. Do I have healthy patients that don't need routine x-rays? YES but they are so rare, you simply have no idea how bad the rate of tooth decay is and how hard it is to keep up with it - you really shouldn't minimize what we do. The comments you made about dentists and dentistry and our use of x-rays are pretty embarrassing considering you are a doctor who has likely ordered all sorts of high radiation imaging whenever you needed to see something. I have two MDs in my family and they also make insane assumptions about dentistry without knowing a thing but thinking they know everything because of that MD. "If you have a hole in your tooth and it hurts you should do something" OK so your recommendation is to wait until tooth decay is SO bad that the nerve is involved and the tooth structurally cavitates. C'mon man! Also cavity detection is standardized internationally in a system called ICDAS. You guys just really don't know what you're talking about here and should stay in your lane. Oh one more thing - you chastise the dental profession for not having good "data". We do have lots of data. LOTS. Look into it. Where we don't, you might want to consider that the entire reason we are separated professionally is because MD's laughed dentists out of the room in 1830 in Maryland when they wanted to be a part of the curriculum. That set us behind quite a bit and we never got any help from the medical profession. Nothing has changed you guys think you are the smartest people in the world and can't get anything wrong.
Can we get drug advertisements off media? I am now seeing drug commercials for dogs! Leave prescription drug decisions to qualified medical doctors. I totally agree on RFK being useful, but not go so far to eliminate the childhood vaccines that have been historically safe and effective.
It does anger me though that they have disclaimers one every single drug but the vaccine in commercials. The thousands that have been injured are being ignored.
He wont eliminate vaccines, he just wants better testing on them, and some are definitly superflous. Hes for more rigerous testing on vaccines, which is completly sensible
The fact that people think Obama care, with the cheapest plan being over 700 dollars for a middle income family without employee based health is affordable, is laughable to me
@@e-bethroseblood67 THIS. And if a middle class family doesn't have employee sponsored insurance they are likely contractors and qualify for substantial subsidy
The premiums were cheaper than pre ACA for people not getting it through their employer, even with pre-existing conditions. I was self employed 25 years ago and was paying $1300/month, the cheapest plan in my state at the time.
Two things can be true. It is cheaper than before obamacare/romneycare. But its also bankrupting us as prices continjously rise and quality of care decreases. Its like letting everyone get on the titanic as it slowly sinks..... Its why Im hopful for rfk jr as he has the right ideas to fix the systematically corrupt and failing system.
Trump 100% removed the mandate that penalized those of us without insurance. Sounds crazy, but without the mandate to pay that penalty for 2 adults and our 5 kids, we have been eligible for more affordable insurance ever since MAGA/MAHA 🤘🇺🇸🤘
Hi this is a genuine question since I’m not familiar with the penalties and am lucky to have healthcare through my employer. Why didn’t you have healthcare? If you’re saying now that you don’t have penalty fees you can afford healthcare then why not just get insurance and avoid the fees? What changed? Again, no judgement or snark, just a genuine question. I don’t even know how much the fees were.
@@megancorpuz3870, the insurance premiums for those who didn't have it through an employer were sky high. And they had terrible coverage with high deductibles. So people were forced to buy an expensive insurance plan they couldn't afford, which didn't provide adequate coverage or care. If you didn't purchase a plan, you would get nailed for $1000 plus dollars on your taxes. It was a joke.
Sure did......my son could not afford the cheapest premium of the "affordable" health care act and got his entire tax refund check confiscated, until Trump came in and removed the mandate.
He also increased drone strikes by 432% and then removed mandatory reporting for civilian deaths from those drone strikes. But that's civilians in other countries so who cares right? He's such a hero!!!!!!
Although it would be great for Vinay to be on JRE I would much rather RFK on this show and have a 3 hr conversation on all topics from vaccines to all forms of environmental pollutants. The consensus will likely be so important and can really make a dramatic difference and cut through all the BS.
Loved this! Great show 👏 Keep keeping it real and exposing how the incentives of the Healthcare industry that continue to contaminate our field. We need more voices like you 2 in our profession!
Wrote a long rambling comment under the VPZD show 38, but discovered that part of it is better here (and maybe ZDs assistant might read it): This and the last VPZD show has really cheered me up, borderline renewed my faith in humanity and life. (...) I had forgotten how good it feels to know there are intelligent, silly and sane people in the world. (...) I miss ZD's old content. My region is sinking lower and lower into Epic-hell, and having watched his old healthcare 3.0 stuff, helps me understand and untangle why I as a patient get this feeling that something is wrong: unnecessary and disturbing prompts and questionnaires (that staff then prefer to take on paper!), focus on less important, weird, things, a feeling that something essential gets missed at appointments. My bandwidth isn't there for meditation and that stuff. Sorry. But I really miss the convergence of medicine, care, systems and people that ZD used to do. It gave me perspective and made me a better communicator, advocate and patient. I am still hoping for some kind of interview series with people who have looked at different healthcare systems, both theoretical and practical. Maybe with a few more years of striving for inner peace these maddening questions might feel more interesting than frustrating?
Great convo👍🏽 At 58:45 …measured against the US dietary guidelines America fails (we get a score of around 60 out of 100 according to the healthy eating index) . It’s not the guidelines that are the problem. It’s that they describe an alternate universe. Ie to your points about subsidies - we have 220,000,000 acres of arable land in the USA dedicated to commodity crops, which largely go to fatten up livestock, high fructose corn syrup, mass loads of CRRAHP (calorie rich, refined highly processed) food concoction production, some ethanol fuel and maybe a bit trickles into corn on the cob and intact whole grains and edamame …but practically speaking, virtually nada. Contrast that with only 4,000,000 acres dedicated to specialty crops, where fruits and vegetables are be found, and we need at least triple that just to get around 2 cups of fruits and vegetables every American. USDA/Farm Bill is talking out of two sides of its mouth while the reality is if everybody tried to eat the US food guidelines prices for fruits and vegetables would skyrocket. We simply don’t have the supply, but that’s OK because it’s now currently matching our low demand. We need to work on the educational and policy front to slowly enhance demand in parallel with production and logistics front of availability of fruits, veggies etc in a slow, meticulous manner like a complicated cancer surgery. If we try to rush it would be like claiming we could remove a tumor faster with a hacksaw. Tumor is out, but patient hemorrhages and dies.
I had unsubbbed z Dogg during covid as I thought his opinions were bit unhinged- here he says one sentence that is partially redeeming- therapists validate everything as having truth value- paraphrasing- but golden!!
Vinay, as a pulmonologist in CA and a Trump voter I listen to you for years and this episode you sound fully onboard with all the reasons Trump won. Which I agree. So, please explain why you would have voted for Kamala? For someone who I respect so highly your voting records baffles me. Especially since you so vehemently were against the Covid regime demands.
I didn’t hear him say he opted for Trump but over the years he has attested to lean towards Bernie Sanders and socialism. I’d love to see him tagged for a policy job at the CDC and or FDA. He’d really be ideal.
I listen to Vinay often as his videos are informative and I enjoy his critical thinking, but I admit that I stopped listening after less than 5 minutes so my comment is to be taken in that context. I stopped listening because of Dr Zs apparent lament about the election results. I am so fed up with identity politics; if you are sorry or happy about a candidate winning, it should be solely because of their policies. It should have ZERO to do with their skin color, gender, sexual orientation or anything else.
I was relieved. Feel we have a chance for our economy, health, general sanity. Only problem is the News Media still doesn’t realize they were Unelected.
@@mariegrieco39wait till they wake up and say "I didn't vote for that 🥺) but oh yeah yes you did. Good thing 4 years goes by fast, but stacking the SCOTUS with right wing conservatives - ppl gonna have to live with that for 40 years. Major cabinet positions for MTG and also RFK 😅 who is the biggest personality behind health conspiracies? Good luck with that. He's supposedly going to dismantle healthcare good luck with that esp ppl who have pre existing conditions How are people on Medicaid supposed to meet the work requirement if they're completely disabled? How exactly are jobs supposed to be brought back we don't have the work force to produce what China does. Wait till a head of lettuce costs $10 bcs now farm labor has to be paid real American wages. These two bros won't be affected by any of that.
The same way he did when he was in office last time. Cost of everything went down. He is going to eliminate paying taxes on my SS check, no taxes on tips and overtime which will really help my son and granddaughter who both work a ton of overtime. Getting rid of all the crap and poisons in our foods will help our health in the long term. I think people forgot they were getting bigger checks when he was in office and our money went further. I wish they would listen to the podcasts the 2 of them did, Vance and him on Theo Von and Joe Rogan, they are not the villains the state run propaganda media makes them out to be and now they have a power force behind him. I pray for their safety.
Thanks so much for this gents!!😁😁 It was a blast to laugh with you during this episode!😂🙌🏼 Fun fact: my late Italian dad would appreciate the “broken car” segment (my first car was a beat suv).😏 I truly appreciate your perspective and ability to talk through issues in a stable manner!💯💯💯
Love love love listening to this! I listen while doing late late night charting and it’s so entertaining and interesting it keeps me awake while doing med refills and lab reviews.
Well I have heard they may gut the affordable care act (Mike Johnson was caught on tape talking about doing away with it) and veteran health care. I also heard they may go after medicare and medicaid. So a lot of people are screwed regarding healthcare.
@@anasifre2479If they are still alive, that doesn’t prove they have 70 vaccines. You are aware that vaccine schedules have been updated and people are able to opt out of certain childhood vaccines. Just wanted to point out that leap in logic.
@anasifre2479 The individual in question appears to be intentionally disregarding corrections and disseminating information that is potentially fear-inducing rather than factual.
You guys together is always the best. I like hearing you bouncing back ideas about medicine and being yourselves. Much better then when you do your individual shows.
I am a retired nurse of 40 years and that mask mandate was the dumbest thing I saw, well one of many but the insanity of wearing to your table and then taking it off? It became a virtue signally for many. The only mask I ever wore that would have prevented the virus was the tb helmet we wear I felt.
He is a bafoon....he's always been a bafoon and slimy. I knew this back in the early 80s. I've never liked him and he's done nothing to change my mind.
Can we address pediatrician offices “firing” families who choose not to follow all the childhood vaccine recommendations? I’m not an anti-vaxxer, but I’ve always thought it’s medically unethical to preemptively refuse to treat a child for any malady because she might get whooping cough one day. You would seriously rather have NO input on the health and wellbeing of this child as she grows up while her parents are likely driven into more and more questionable woowoo corners of medical advice?
Yep…the AAP (American Academy of Pediatrics) is a not to be taken seriously. It cares nothing for science and will parrot anything that the liberal overlords declare. This was made clear to me in Marty Makery’s book: Blind Spots. (This book pulls the curtain back on the despicable world of medical finance, publishing and re$earch. As a physician…it makes me want to puke). If you’re unfamiliar with him, he has been on a ‘show’ with these two guys before. He is kind of the older sensible broth in contrast to these two goofy younger brothers…it’s pretty cool.
@@juliebenton8978 it isnt about your child. It is about passing a disease to another child who may die. It your child was getting chemo you would want the office to be safe. Killing another child with measles exposed in the pediatric office to measles is how these policies evolved. In children there is strong evidence for vaccination. Otherwise you could have four waiting areas, well vaccinate, well unvaccinated, sick vaccinated , sick unvaccinated. Your right to decide not to vaccinate, but the vulnerable rights supercede. Totally fine to go somewhere else for care.
I hope VP does a deep dive on the midlevel research I really think this is one of the most critically important topics no one talks about. I was a former RN who went to DO school and I have seen a lot of damage done already. The research is so crappy I don’t know how this has happened.
This show is soooo awesome 😂!!! It is so refreshing, especially from healthcare professionals. Real talk with humor attached. You both need to be on some national level committee to make effective change in Healthcare.
"...space heater to space heater.." Hahaha! I just drag my oil heater through the house as I navigate the stages of the day when I am home! What can I do about a cold nose though? Hehehe. Thanks for the laughs sprinkled in with the serious talk. Welp, full confession...I cried and I am not ashamed to say so or that I did so. That said, I cried less so in response to how the elections ended up and more in response to the behavior of humans on all sides (ALL). I just broke. It felt great to cry though. Cathartic. Then pulled up my big girl panties and readied myself to be as kind and patient in the world as I can be while recognizing how many beautiful and amazing humans I know first hand who voted and didn't vote in a variety of ways that may not be in alignment with how I voted. I'm still not happy with some of the behavior I am witnessing out there in the world but I'm going to keep loving what's lovable about humanity and learning from what is challenging.
That IS what RFK is saying, he wants subsidies to go toward regenerative agriculture which is real whole nutrient dense food that actually regenerates the soil rather than fully depleting it with pesticides.
Fluoride in toothpaste? Fine. Fluoride in your water source? When you drink, how often do you swish your sip of water around your teeth? When I drink water, I’d say it mostly goes in my mouth along my tongue and down my throat hardly touching my teeth. So what good is it for your teeth?
You guys are like the “car talk” of medicine. Love it. So glad you’re having regular shows again.
@@ANM1836 Great comparison! “Don’t listen to my doctor.” “And don’t listen to MY doctor.”
Vinay please have a conversation with Bobby. You have great recommendations.
Yes please I think there is a lot of potential to do good but he needs guidance.
@@nancycutino3713 yes!
Vinay: I'm not a fan of cancel culture.
Also Vinay: I think she should be fired.
@@CMA418 Might be better to say he doesn't like the social media pressure to fire someone that influences censoring the content and that which causes the firing of someone. That should be at the top level. But you're right that is does stem from social media blowing up and taking out of proportion sayings like this.
@@2snipe1 and he is a part of social media, quite influential in fact. Hypocrites everywhere I turn.
Real "health care" starts with taking care of your health (Nutrition, Exercise, Stress Management, and Sleep). Most conversations about "health care" are about how to pay for stuff, but not about how we have a healthier population.
💯. Get Marty Makery’s new book, “Blind Spots”.
100%. Ive been a paramedic for the last 24 years so have experience with the "healthcare" system. A few years ago I decided to get healthy. In my 40s I lost 80lbs, learned to eat healthy and prioritize excersize and sleep. I have never felt better and rarely feel "sick"
Got it. 😉
100%
I am an Internal Medicine physician, our “healthcare” system is a disease treatment system. We need to develop a “lifestyle choices, avoiding systemic chronic inflammation and wellbeing” system. True population health management, such that we care for our most precious asset, our fellow humans.
Thank you for the frank and open dialogue
Trump put a female general contractor in charge of a major Manhattan project in the 1980s. When everyone thought it was crazy and she was tough as nails and brought it in under budget.
And she bash him too. Get figure
Is that when his policy of fucking over his contractors started? by refusing to pay and bringing contractors to brink of bankruptcy so they accept a couple cents on the dollar? yes such GOOD business practices
The problem isnt that shes a woman, it is that shes a swamp creature who worked for one of the worst lobbying firms....
He also didn't pay a huge percentage of contractors who worked for him!!!!!
This isn't the 80s anymore. He is a misogynistic dictator. And when when the whole system falls apart around you and democracy and the constitution is destroyed, anyone who thought he was this God sent to save us all will be blindsided, wondering where did it all go wrong?
So glad to see you two together. You helped me get through Covid. I love you perspectives and I think you are wonderful.
Man this is refreshing! I am so sick of being called racist, a bad parent, or whatever, by people who were my friends 3 days ago I'm a woman and disabled and I'm tired of people telling me who I need to vote for. Thank you guys for being smart and thinking for yourselves!
preach!
Maybe don't vote for racists if you don't want to be called that.
The main stream media is to blame for this and so sorry you’re going through that. It’s awful
@nutritiousyogi Trump being a pos and surrounding himself with other pos'es is to blame not the media as most people don't even watch the so called, "mainstream media"
If you're disabled, be prepared to say bye, bye to Medicaid and Medicare. Oh, and your disability checks. I really hope you didn't vote for Trump because that will be what happens. I'll be here saying, "I told you so!!!"
Thank you for this. I’m independent who voted for Harris. I was disappointed and this is just what I needed to hear. Our country is going to be just fine and I hope that our president elect will do good things. Perhaps in four years both parties will come up with better Candidates/better plans. I will fight for the things I believe especially reproductive rights. I may not like Trump, but yes, he is our president.
He already has if you've been paying attention to what is already happening around the world passed few days😊
The good news is that those "reproductive rights" are put in the hands of the states. No one has taken anything away and Trump has always maintained that the residents in each respective states should vote how they want on this course.
Great post.
And you’re smoking weed!
Climate change action will go backward most certainly. Even 2 docs don't seem concerned?
1st covid-19 infection almost killed me severe asthma ended up with long covid-19 severe autonomic neuropathy, severe gastroparesis, pots, severe me/cfs proven in testing. I try my best to wear a mask when out in groups but I don't know what another infection will do to me. My basic life functions no longer work I have autonomic failure. Let people have their masks if make them feel safer.. We don't know what they are dealing with..
hope you do better, my daughter had her POTS triggered by H1N1 in 2009 likely. but masking does NOTHING without FULL OSHA standard PPE>
I’m very sorry you’re having these health challenges. I hope you have a good doc who knows how to best treat long Covid.
But it's just like a cold, right? /sarcasm
I am so here for firing toddler maskers!!!! YES!!! I had THREE KIDS under 12 who all were forced to mask! I’m still FURIOUS!
People should be way more angry about Democrats covid response.
@@mrb152trump let 800k people die and mismanaged the response.
Masks for toddlers stupid so throw the country out with the bathwater.
@@trifectamarc6705yes, exactly. This channel has changed a lot for the worse since I became a supporter almost 4 years ago.
Just stopped the $ and unsubbed this dude became more and more entitled and knows it all.
Would like to see him respond to rfk's recent tweets OMG lol, Infectious Disease docs are going to be doing brisk business 😅
4 years later and all that butthurt still lingering, huh?
I’m brown, Asian an RN, GOP since became naturalized U.S. citizen .
I voted for Trump. 🇺🇸❤️
Moral relativism and crazy liberalism need to be toned down, sovereignty, illegal immigration, aid to wars and yes throw inflation in that… for Trump! ✅❤️
Please elaborate on what "moral relativism and crazy liberalism" means to you.
@@morningperson707more importantly, what does it mean to you? I also voted for Trump for exactly the same reasons, because I love women, LGB and people of all races & religion & want to see an end to the suffering the party in power has created on a global scale.
@@DamnitJerry11 I did not use those terms and I asked the question of someone else. I actually don’t even use these terms at all so what they mean to me is inconsequential. I am interested in the OP’s answer since they used these terms. I am trying to gain clarity on what that means. Attacking, disparaging or blaming others or other points of view does not make for meaningful or constructive discussion.
@@morningperson707wokeism and leaning towards Communism.
I'm a Kenyan immigrant who naturalized in 2019!! Registered Democrat but woke up very quickly during Covid/BLM in 2020 and voted Trump.
Scientific American has become more propaganda than science communication. It's so disappointing, as it used to be such a respected journal. Many of my colleagues in the sciences have abandoned the journal in recent years, myself included
It’s been a POS for at least 15…20(?) years.
Best case scenario, Helmuth is dead wrong, the republicans prove they aren't fascists and don't want a Christian Theocratic Oligarchy, the Dems calm down and pick better candidates, and we all laugh about the hysteria in 20 years thinking a reality TV star was Hitler. Worst case scenario, history repeats itself, and in 20 years all the "bad people" are gone.
i read SA and find it factual and varied in topic, not falling for the drumming of "propaganda" by those trying to push their own agenda, primarily looking to block bold climate action.
??? Why would you assume I'm trying to block bold climate action? I'm a life-long environmental advocate. I just call it like I see it
If you're going to be persecuted for your choices, you are unlikely to share your choices with a pollster.
Obama care saved my life. I can’t get insurance due to preexisting conditions. Take it away many of us will die. There is no penalty, that was done away with.
Same. It saved my life and has continued to do so.
@@indranidasgupta8982 continues to do so with me too.
With you on this!
Same for me and my husband, and the monthly premium was less than what was offered before ACA.
Its like letting everybody get on the titanic. Its true it saved some people (like yourslef) and thats good, but its also bankrupting our country and rapidly declining in quality of care. This is why Im hopeful rfk jr can actually overhaul the systematically corrupt system that is profitting off of our increasing ilness.
You guys are not only having great conversations, but are flat out HILARIOUS!
Vinay, I'm an RN that was forced to take jabs or lose my job, DESPITE having chest pain after #1. I want in on your retribution plan!!
Then you should've gotten another job, dude.
@indranidasgupta8982 yep. But thanks for your keen insight.
So many understand your plight don't let those few make you feel badly. Let's face it, it could have just as easily gone the other way and people would be nasty and say someone deserved death from COVID for not getting jab. We were all working with what we knew and thought was hopefully best choice@@barbloft
@@indranidasgupta8982Unhelpful and zero compassion. Don't be part of the problem.
@@StirlingVideoLoungeNo compassion everyone had a choice. The people who got the jab were awful to those who did not. You value your job over your life.
Wisdom and humor is a lovely combination.
As an insurance broker, I can safely say that the ACA grossly sped up the rate in which health insurance premiums are rising.
The data that suggests the ACA halted the rise in cost does not factor in employers reducing the level of coverage to employees or state/federal subsidies. It is intentionally misleading. The cost of the plans are significantly higher due to additional mandated coverages, taxes on premiums and no provisions in the bill to reduce cost.
I’d be happy to detail this for you further if you’d like to reach out.
I hope they do! I want to hear!
@@deidredonovan3864
They don’t appear to read comments…
Mandates to cover costs so that the insurance you pay for actually covers something, instead of giving free money to the rip off insurance company and getting nothing in return
Insurance is the biggest scam on the planet. That is why mandates are necessary
The real culprit is now and in the past and in the future the insurance company bottom line. Take a look at profits and compensation
I know, I work for one
Insurance companies, hospitals, Big Pharma and physician groups 100% get away with a lot that they shouldn’t be. In regards to the insurance companies, they still are paying out an awful lot in claims, which is a direct reflection of how much health care costs. You may pay $20k a year for coverage, which all goes towards that $1 million claim your coworker has. In that sense, you are correct in that you receive nothing for your health insurance premiums.
One of the biggest issues I see is the poor metabolic health of our citizens and the poisoning of our food supply. See Bill Maher’s Fudge Report to scratch the surface.
the ACA is actually a design of the Heritage Foundation (which is going to have a lot of influence here on out). Unfortunately Trump had promised an improvement on the ACA and could not come up with one last term.
I’ve only heard RFK Jr. talk about vaccines a couple of times, and both times he’s stated that he’s not against vaccines but wants good studies to analyze and ensure their safety. Maybe he’s said something different at other times, but the statements I’ve heard seem reasonable and in line with the kinds of comments I’ve heard from both of you regarding the need for good evidence for any medical interventions.
He has made some questionable claims, but yeah hes not some anti vax nut, he has real plans that make total sense, and hes 100% spot on re corporate capture and the problems with our food system. Im very hopeful he can affect real change, and Im glad he got the job (hopefully he gets confirmed)
The problem with RFK is that nothing ever convinces him there are good studies. "Be afraid of vaccines and what THEY'RE doing to you" is his schtick and he sticks to it no matter what the evidence is. He's not trying to inform people he's trying to scare people into following him
He's said worse than what you've heard, he sticks to the "just asking questions" game when he's trying to seem reasonable to a wider audience. And then after he just asks questions he gives a pile of reasons why he's skeptical that are all bullshit: easily disproven Facebook memes, studies he's misread, bullshit he made up. People correct him or show him he's wrong and he just keeps going everywhere saying the same shit.
If there's no amount of evidence that "X is true" will stop you from going on TV every day and asking "is X true? I just want to know if X is true, here's why I don't think X is true" you're not just asking questions in good faith-you're deliberately misleading people
Are you high? He has been one of the most famous anti vax crusaders in US history. Doctors and scientist have been debunking him for almost 30 years.
You really want him to be in charge of health? Does he look or sound healthy to you? Hell no!!!! If he can't take care of himself, how will he take care of an entire country. Look at him. He's the epitome of unhealthy. I am 10 years younger than him and he looks 30 years older than me!! HE IS N0T QUALIFIED!!!!
Regarding the therapists making things worse…as a reformed therapist 😅, there is some truth in what you said indeed. Coddling people’s emotions is a slippery slope in this context. Helping people to think more dialectically, to challenge their dichotomous thinking about situations, to bolster their ability to tolerate disappointment or any negative valenced emotion is important. Generationally we are seeing less emotional resilience in our younger folks for a multitude of reasons. Thanks guys!
Well said. I am a former therapist and I agree.
As a patient of 8 different therapists, all of which were shit except 1(who was amazingly helpful), I think your position could use some more nuance. Devil's advocate:
"Coddling people’s emotions is a slippery slope in this context"
True! So is dismissing people's emotions. Sometimes people's emotions are justifiable given their perception, but also given their reality. "Oh, you're going to lose your healthcare? Oh boo hoo poor baby.", "Oh you accidentally got pregnant but you can't afford to raise a child? Well you shouldn't have been so stupid. Now you have to pay.", "Oh you care about Palestinian kids? Get over it, kids die every day."
"Helping people to think more dialectically"
No argument from me here.
"challenge their dichotomous thinking about situations"
One side saying: He's Hitler. A threat to democracy. All. his supporters are garbage. "They" will make abortion illegal. "They" want a Christian Theocracy.
Other side saying: "They" want to destroy this country. "They" are ripping full grown babies from the womb everyday. All their supporters are groomers. The enemy within can be dealt with by the military "if necessary"(no he wasn't referring to illegal immigrants). We need the Bible to be taught in schools(Oklahoma). I'll only be a dictator on day one(yuk yuk, wink wink)
What would you honestly expect to see when the "leaders" on both sides use rhetoric like this? Fear=$,$$$,$$$,$$$…..
"to bolster their ability to tolerate disappointment"
I agree this ability is, in my experience, hard-won and well worth it. I see it as a sign of emotional maturity. At the same time, it does seem the poster child for not having the ability to tolerate disappointment is the President Elect; and he is a role model for ALOT of people. "I am your retribution." for your disappointment.
"or any negative valenced emotion"
Again I agree. (see above comment) Though some people won't tolerate negative valence emotions, they simply take it out on others and blame them(BLM, JAN 6). This not even close to being exclusive to one side, I'm sure you'd agree.
"Generationally we are seeing less emotional resilience in our younger folks for a multitude of reasons"
Also agreed. Having had to do it the hard way and mostly on my own, I do what I can for those around me. However, I must ask, is there a single demographic in this country who hasn't been told-and so believe-that they are victims of an unfair system? Seriously name one. lol
Love you guys.
Anecdotally, when I moved to Hawaii after a lifetime of midwestern fluoride in the water, the dentist literally called in other providers in the office to show them my beautiful teeth, and said this is what fluoride in the water does.
Growing up, I had zero cavities and my sister had a buch, but we both had the same diet, moslty unflouridated well water, etc. There is definitly more to it than flouride...
Vinay is the smartest man in the world. Bar none.
I loved hearing Vinay’s full-throated laugh! 😅
I have to say something in defense of being upset on finding out Trump won. I was angry and sad, because I am the child of a parent who fought in WW2. To me, people have forgotten what those men sacrificed for. We don't want another Hitler type in power. If your parents were in India at the time or grandparents an sure they didn't enjoy ANY of it. Furthermore, I think that Trump may allow Putin to take Ukraine and build a new USSR. I have relatives and religious friends in Ukraine being half Ukranian myself. I find that people in the US just sold our souls to the Devil incarnate. If you are of color and poor, also look out.
Dr. Z working with patients in hospital how could you not see people/patients are having a hard time affording healthcare food and their medication?
The lived experience of irrational Covid policies ABSOLUTELY made me reconsider and rethink everything. I fought like heck and walked a balance beam to give my kids what they needed during the insanity. It also radicalized me- I will NEVER trust the CDC on anything. I was willing to go along to be a member of a community where we all make compromises but I saw how that was abused as in this blue area it dragged on and on and on. This is literally my children’s first year of completely normal school again. (And some kids & teachers are still wearing masks off & on-so 95 percent back to normal.)
RN here. Covid woke me up BIG TIME. I too will never trust CDC (and most other current day govt agencies as they exist today) again. Nothing made sense. Basically, just started doing the opposite of whatever nonsense they spouted. We exercised, got outside into sunshine, ate healthy, kept positive and stopped listening to alphabet news. We are living in interesting and exciting times and I think the sleeping bear has been awakened 😊…
ZDOGG - you two are saying teens are impressionable. Um, you were impressionable. You were late to the party on many things Covid and honestly you still have a long way to go on understanding it all. You were all in on vaccines and mask wearing for a VERY long time.
And they’re still trusting in the “data” for the childhood vaccine schedule knowing data can be manipulated and without looking at the ties between the companies providing the “data” and the FDA.
That is why I was so surprised to hear this take. I am liking what I'm hearing but why didn't we say this stuff earlier. If it just turns out you believed stuff but were wrong you should do a video specifically addressing that and falling on the sword not just pretending like you were on this train the whole time. Recommending this shot for kids and healthy teens was a crime
exactly. they were both supporting the official line, although Vinad was more critical of many CDC policies. If, as Vinad said, during that time they had to be very circumspect in their comments, then yes I can accept that. I’m hoping that is the case.
I love it when you team up together. It’s been fun watching you both come to realizations from covid till now. As a woman, (I can define that as well, BTW) I was bullied hard by other women who cannot define what that is to vote for a cackling hyena so that my daughters can abort my granddaughters. Make it make sense. I’m exhausted being told all the things “I am” as a woman who voted for Trump. Not a single one of the categorizations are accurate. I work two jobs, drive a hybrid, have a degree, married to the same man 31 years (he wouldn’t dare tell me how to vote-and wouldn’t matter if he tried!) I have raised three wonderfully contributing to society, children-two of those daughters who married strong men. Neither of them ever needed a pregnancy test prior to marriage, let alone an abortion because I raised them to respect themselves and travel in groups at all times.
I donate a large chunk of my time to help those less fortunate than myself and my money as well. I don’t have a racist bone in my body, nor am I deplorable. I frequently feed those at my table who have differing opinions than mine because I am a grownup! I’m one of those “Gen X Folks” the one post was complaining about. We came out in full force for Trump because we’re old enough to remember the 80’s. None of us give a darn what you do in private. Just don’t force me to participate in your delusions, give porn to my kids, allow men in my bathrooms and sports! Find the 300K missing children, get the 400K+ criminal illegal aliens out of my country, and build the freaking wall.
Why is common sense so uncommon?
My friend who has myeloma and is in her 30’s is in the hospital right now with Covid. I still think that minimizing it for everyone just pushes those of us who know we are vulnerable into corners.
Thank you for this episode! I felt like maybe I was crazy that a number of my doctor friends are “crying” over the election and making sweeping conclusions about what’s going to happen the next 4 years and I’m actually not worried at all. I loved your lines, “Get free from the extremes, think for yourself”. I also agree this is completely driven by the media which is the saddest part of the whole thing. The people who are supposed to be reporting the news are telling how to think and feel. “Irrational emotions’” is an understatement! Loved the comments on the direction you hope healthcare goes. The humor is fun as well…helped me not cry all day, lol. And I’m fine with the swearing personally. Be authentic!
Listening to this has been very enlightening. No hope. No voice. Yet more men minimizing my concerns.
I love you two. Thank you for keeping it real. You two renew my faith in doctors.
Are either of them still in direct care? Serious question.
The fact that Trump's 2016-2020 mandate was relatively innocuous all things considered doesnt necessarily mean this one will be. Especially given how much we know about the people around him that acted as gaurdrails that he has effectively replaced with loyalists this time around. It's possible to be a serious person who is deeply concerned about American Democracy in this moment. Its okay to wake up feeling a bit scared and pessimistic about this, this doesnt deserve ridicule becsuse you may not feel it. I've listened to a lot of center right and right people that are also deeply frightened. It isn't even especislly partisan. I take your point about trying to avoid being hysterical, but the anxiety is perfectly understandable.
I hear you exactly. Besides being very anti-woke I am more concerned about the federal bureaucracy and its need to grow. If Trump did not win, this deep state would have free rein to codify measures to muzzle detractors (weaponized justice system…as we’ve seen). We’ve already seen censorship and the ‘control of the narrative’ by proxy media outlets. Trump goes off script and may slow the progression of government control. The main reason I voted for Trump is that it will be easier to get rid of him than the liberal elites.
Federal bureaucracy….’deep state’… an egregore.
I agree with this completely and it's how I am feeling too. International affairs alone is a reason to be scared. The man is not a moral person and seems to have some kind of dementia. I think being concerned is a perfectly valid response.
Anyone "frightened" by Trump is a DNC shill, not a conservative.
Past behavior is a strong predictor of future behavior. We cannot help those that insist on living in a negative loop. Good luck with doomsday imagining as this will only lead to depression. Can't see the forest for the tree. If it's so terrible, cheer yourself up by planning a move out of country and returning in 4yrs or spend all your time protesting.
@@digicog Trump did not start any wars...
I appreciate this conversation so much. Being a middle person that wasn’t worried on who won. And has been an agree to disagree but still be friends. Thank you for this conversation.
I'm a Dentist and just putting my 2 cents in.
With fluoridation my biggest concern is for kids - especially from early childhood up to say 10-12 years old where hygiene habits pretty poor. I work at a FQHC and see mostly of patients coming from non-fluoridated communities in Central/South America and these kids can have some major dental issues. I'm not talking about "sticks" here as you guys mentioned - we're talking huge holes, resulting pain, possible infection on both their baby and adult teeth. Even the vast majority of adults I see from these communities are missing their permanent 1st molars at the very least - the difference is just night and day compared to looking at the overall population which grew up in the states. Obviously I'm not pointing to fluoridation as the silver bullet here and poverty, diet, lack of access to care all play roles. That said, I think its a wonderful population-wide intervention, especially to the poor or those without access. In a way I think the general population is ignorant of it's benefit because of it's effectiveness.
The other thing touched on is "what is a cavity" - something I struggle with and I think all dentists struggle with on a daily basis. The truth is those little sticks are totally asymptomatic and so anything you say to the patient is naturally going to met with skepticism. That said, there's no doubt that some fillings in which there's early intervention can help mitigate future pain and possible need for additional, costly, not to mention difficult procedures. It doesn't take a dental degree to know if you fill a hole while its small then food/associated bacteria cant get in there to make it bigger. Where I agree with you guys is the lack of concrete evidence of when to make that intervention and of course it comes down to a someone's clinical judgement and obviously there's an incentive there to treat in order to make money.
I cant speak too much regarding braces - orthodontics isn't something I do and I'm not well read on it. The concept of beauty - 100% agree. I have people come in with perfectly natural, healthy teeth looking to do all sorts of work because of a gap or a space. At that point its really a moral issue - akin to cosmetic plastic surgery in my opinion. If they want to do treatment and know the associated risks and pay the bill I'll cringe privately but do the best I can to provide that for that patient.
The last thing I'll say - this post is long but this is cathartic - is the talk of radiographs. Please just look at the mSv dose on a bitewing dental radiography - we're not talking about at CT here where there's big, serious dosages - at most we're talking single-digit days of background radiation. The benefit we get from that is we can see holes - sometimes pretty large holes - between teeth I just simply cant from looking in the mouth. From a cost-benefit standpoint, I think benefits blow any downside, besides perhaps an added financial burden, out of the water. The more important question and would love to see good lit on is frequency of those radiographs - are we doing those like every 6 mo,1 year, maybe even 2-5 years for someone whose got a lower risk of cavities? Very tough call right now for the truly objective dentist and sadly its often being dictated by how often insurance will pay.
These guys are sitting in their ivory tower and trashing our profession dude. I'm with you 100%
I used to live in San Antonio TX, a city without fluoridation, at least when I lived there. The US Public Health Service dentists trained there because the general dental health of the city was horrific and on the level of a third world nation. My friends who were born and raised were always having issues with caries and absessed teeth.
@@MichalMudd I grew up in northern area of San Antonio and confirm I got cavities on almost everyone of my teeth from 5 to 17 years when I moved away to attend college in Michigan (Ann Arbor). I did brush my teeth twice daily with children’s toothpaste.
As you said, it has a lot to do with diet. We live in the most prosperous country in the world, we shouldnt be using flouride as a band aid for some of the side effects of our bad diets. Forcing everyone to drink it daily when it really is only important for kids and those with unhealthy diets, when chem companies are making millions off of selling it to us..... Should raise red flags.
@MK-ih6wp you're right they did at it for a reason. World War 2 (I believe it was that war or may have only been for Iodine). They did it as there were dental issues disqualifying many from service due to the issues caused from poor diet caused by the depression. Fluoride and iodine do have benefits and were made for a calculated reason
From the bottom of my heart, THANK YOU BOTH for the humorous and immature content mixed in with the serious stuff. I love listening to people talk about serious things, but I found myself so anxious listening to election commentary the last couple days. As soon as I saw it you guys had this video, I ended the other one I was listening to and came here. This is what the world needs! And as always, thank you for your expertise and expert opinions on healthcare. ❤
I loved that you talked about Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs on your show. I said the exact same thing to a friend the day after the election. As a retired RN, we learned about this early on in our education. People need to meet their basic needs first before they can consider the bull***t pie in the sky ideologies of the left.
Yes and the pushing of woke ideologies onto everyone. Most people don’t care if people are LBGTQ. They are not racist they simply don’t care until it affects them in crazy ways. They get up in arms about having men in women’s sports, having men in women’s bathrooms and having children be allowed to change their sex biologically prior to full brain development . Do it as an adult- no problem. Tired of the minority pushing these woke ideas onto the majority and economics is why Trump won. They would rather have an A hole in office than someone with vague promises pushing “ woke” agenda. Many people have moral conflict with abortion. They have a right to their moral beliefs as much as those that believe Trump is immoral for his actions and reversing Roe vs. Wade. I can see both sides without going crazy.
Same here! I also referenced it with friends who didn’t understand the election.
My wife introverted too, but she’s always happy that she got out. Social event can drain her and it fills my cup. It’s funny how different personalities take to social situations.
47:30 women have been dying, this is such a very bad take.
Infant mortality rate have also gone up.
Dramatic much? Women have been dying?? There is NO abortion law that let’s a woman die - give me a break
I’m kinda horrified at these two….i expected better on this topic. Way too flippant. Ob/gyn ‘s can’t even fully practice in these states.
My favorite surgeon general moment was in April 2020 when Jerome Adams showed us how to make a face covering out of an old “got naloxone?” t-shirt😂 The last thing he said on the video (on UA-cam) was “It’s that easy”✋😷🤚
I’m a Canadian social worker retired after COVID
With mandatory DEI at 63 years old I just couldn’t continue…. Love your input especially during & after pandemic response. Freedom of Speech & thought. 💜🙏
Love you guys. Great show. But as a DO that hurt a little VP. Also I work with a DNP and ARNP that work a hospitalists and I think they are better than some MD or DO hospitalists I’ve worked with.
If you care: I’ve never noticed a difference between a DO and an MD. Maybe one can artificially parse out differences if you’re an ivory tower physician but when faced with the blood and guts of an ER…OR….or even ‘just’ a floor…or worse, a clinic…the differences are literally academic. So…rock on and kick ass you crazy DO!
(I’m an old double Boarded MD…if it matters)
@Docjunge17. Absolutely agree! Our son is a DO and some of the best care I've received has been with. DNP and ARNP.❤
*APRN....
If anyone cares….I’ve never noticed a difference between an MD and a DO.
(I’m a double Boarded MD)
Nobody has a “right” to someone else’s labor or services. They do have a right to seek services like healthcare, and we might want to have policies to make getting and paying for healthcare easier, but it’s not a “right.”
Love your banter back and forth. Y’all are hilarious and quite informative. Thank you:)
I also think VP will be awesome in JRE. Love you guys
How refreshing.
And yes. Each individual vaccine should be scrutinized.
Ideally for whether it actually prevents transmission, not just produces antibodies. And whether health is actually improved for having the vaccine. (Not just the absence/reduction of a specific virus/bacteria)
Basically more science like what Aaby does.
(I was very vax skeptical as a new mum, and I ended up going with the MMR based on his studies in Africa).
I did cry, but now I’m pissed.
But that’s not because there is something off with me that requires therapy.
As a woman, in Florida this week, we lost the rights to our bodies, and thats is very real feeling of despair and a feeling of “less then”
You had Dick Cheney on your side, how on earth did you lose???
@@philipedwards241 Most of FL is red up and down, my county (Palm Beach, yep Trumps’s county) is a small blue lake in the ocean of red…. FL always disappoints…
I think women are really upset losing our rights to our body but I don't think most men give a shit....
You didn’t lose your right in Florida.
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Oh my gosh I love you guys so much. Thank you for being the voice of so many of us that are stuck in the middle of both extreme sides of crazy!
Yes to live, great show! I appreciate your unfiltered dialog, especially from the Bay Area bubble. Keep 'talking shit,' it feels honest, and you guys have the chemistry to make it entertaining. Vinay should be part of the incoming administration. We need his youth, his energy, to influence and learn, to carry the coming successes into the future.
Regarding 1:07 and Dentistry.....Dentist here - after you see enough kids go through hell with their teeth and get developmentally messed up because of it, you start treating superficial pit and groove decay every time because you never know how deep those go, even when you have x-rays. We take interproximal x-rays every year because those things move FAST when they get started. I often see huge differences in 6 months or less. Do I have healthy patients that don't need routine x-rays? YES but they are so rare, you simply have no idea how bad the rate of tooth decay is and how hard it is to keep up with it - you really shouldn't minimize what we do. The comments you made about dentists and dentistry and our use of x-rays are pretty embarrassing considering you are a doctor who has likely ordered all sorts of high radiation imaging whenever you needed to see something. I have two MDs in my family and they also make insane assumptions about dentistry without knowing a thing but thinking they know everything because of that MD. "If you have a hole in your tooth and it hurts you should do something" OK so your recommendation is to wait until tooth decay is SO bad that the nerve is involved and the tooth structurally cavitates. C'mon man! Also cavity detection is standardized internationally in a system called ICDAS. You guys just really don't know what you're talking about here and should stay in your lane.
Oh one more thing - you chastise the dental profession for not having good "data". We do have lots of data. LOTS. Look into it. Where we don't, you might want to consider that the entire reason we are separated professionally is because MD's laughed dentists out of the room in 1830 in Maryland when they wanted to be a part of the curriculum. That set us behind quite a bit and we never got any help from the medical profession. Nothing has changed you guys think you are the smartest people in the world and can't get anything wrong.
Can we get drug advertisements off media? I am now seeing drug commercials for dogs! Leave prescription drug decisions to qualified medical doctors.
I totally agree on RFK being useful, but not go so far to eliminate the childhood vaccines that have been historically safe and effective.
It does anger me though that they have disclaimers one every single drug but the vaccine in commercials. The thousands that have been injured are being ignored.
He wont eliminate vaccines, he just wants better testing on them, and some are definitly superflous. Hes for more rigerous testing on vaccines, which is completly sensible
The fact that people think Obama care, with the cheapest plan being over 700 dollars for a middle income family without employee based health is affordable, is laughable to me
Do you live in a state that refuses funding for Medicaid Expansion??? Thank Republicans.
@@e-bethroseblood67 THIS. And if a middle class family doesn't have employee sponsored insurance they are likely contractors and qualify for substantial subsidy
The premiums were cheaper than pre ACA for people not getting it through their employer, even with pre-existing conditions. I was self employed 25 years ago and was paying $1300/month, the cheapest plan in my state at the time.
Two things can be true. It is cheaper than before obamacare/romneycare. But its also bankrupting us as prices continjously rise and quality of care decreases. Its like letting everyone get on the titanic as it slowly sinks..... Its why Im hopful for rfk jr as he has the right ideas to fix the systematically corrupt and failing system.
Trump 100% removed the mandate that penalized those of us without insurance. Sounds crazy, but without the mandate to pay that penalty for 2 adults and our 5 kids, we have been eligible for more affordable insurance ever since MAGA/MAHA 🤘🇺🇸🤘
Hi this is a genuine question since I’m not familiar with the penalties and am lucky to have healthcare through my employer.
Why didn’t you have healthcare? If you’re saying now that you don’t have penalty fees you can afford healthcare then why not just get insurance and avoid the fees? What changed? Again, no judgement or snark, just a genuine question. I don’t even know how much the fees were.
@@megancorpuz3870, the insurance premiums for those who didn't have it through an employer were sky high. And they had terrible coverage with high deductibles. So people were forced to buy an expensive insurance plan they couldn't afford, which didn't provide adequate coverage or care. If you didn't purchase a plan, you would get nailed for $1000 plus dollars on your taxes. It was a joke.
Sure did......my son could not afford the cheapest premium of the "affordable" health care act and got his entire tax refund check confiscated, until Trump came in and removed the mandate.
He didn't do that. Good try
He also increased drone strikes by 432% and then removed mandatory reporting for civilian deaths from those drone strikes. But that's civilians in other countries so who cares right? He's such a hero!!!!!!
Really enjoy the show. I always appreciate your information on medical issues.
Although it would be great for Vinay to be on JRE I would much rather RFK on this show and have a 3 hr conversation on all topics from vaccines to all forms of environmental pollutants. The consensus will likely be so important and can really make a dramatic difference and cut through all the BS.
Loved this! Great show 👏 Keep keeping it real and exposing how the incentives of the Healthcare industry that continue to contaminate our field. We need more voices like you 2 in our profession!
Not cool Doctors!! You sound pretty entitled. Nurse Cindy. My son is a cancer survivor.
These Mdudes will never rely on social security or medicare.
Wrote a long rambling comment under the VPZD show 38, but discovered that part of it is better here (and maybe ZDs assistant might read it):
This and the last VPZD show has really cheered me up, borderline renewed my faith in humanity and life. (...) I had forgotten how good it feels to know there are intelligent, silly and sane people in the world.
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I miss ZD's old content. My region is sinking lower and lower into Epic-hell, and having watched his old healthcare 3.0 stuff, helps me understand and untangle why I as a patient get this feeling that something is wrong: unnecessary and disturbing prompts and questionnaires (that staff then prefer to take on paper!), focus on less important, weird, things, a feeling that something essential gets missed at appointments.
My bandwidth isn't there for meditation and that stuff. Sorry. But I really miss the convergence of medicine, care, systems and people that ZD used to do. It gave me perspective and made me a better communicator, advocate and patient.
I am still hoping for some kind of interview series with people who have looked at different healthcare systems, both theoretical and practical. Maybe with a few more years of striving for inner peace these maddening questions might feel more interesting than frustrating?
I love watching the two of you.
We are doomed
Great convo👍🏽 At 58:45 …measured against the US dietary guidelines America fails (we get a score of around 60 out of 100 according to the healthy eating index) . It’s not the guidelines that are the problem. It’s that they describe an alternate universe. Ie to your points about subsidies - we have 220,000,000 acres of arable land in the USA dedicated to commodity crops, which largely go to fatten up livestock, high fructose corn syrup, mass loads of CRRAHP (calorie rich, refined highly processed) food concoction production, some ethanol fuel and maybe a bit trickles into corn on the cob and intact whole grains and edamame …but practically speaking, virtually nada. Contrast that with only 4,000,000 acres dedicated to specialty crops, where fruits and vegetables are be found, and we need at least triple that just to get around 2 cups of fruits and vegetables every American. USDA/Farm Bill is talking out of two sides of its mouth while the reality is if everybody tried to eat the US food guidelines prices for fruits and vegetables would skyrocket. We simply don’t have the supply, but that’s OK because it’s now currently matching our low demand. We need to work on the educational and policy front to slowly enhance demand in parallel with production and logistics front of availability of fruits, veggies etc in a slow, meticulous manner like a complicated cancer surgery. If we try to rush it would be like claiming we could remove a tumor faster with a hacksaw. Tumor is out, but patient hemorrhages and dies.
Love you guys! You two got me through COVID!!! With laughter and education!! ❤
I had unsubbbed z Dogg during covid as I thought his opinions were bit unhinged- here he says one sentence that is partially redeeming- therapists validate everything as having truth value- paraphrasing- but golden!!
Vinay, as a pulmonologist in CA and a Trump voter I listen to you for years and this episode you sound fully onboard with all the reasons Trump won. Which I agree. So, please explain why you would have voted for Kamala? For someone who I respect so highly your voting records baffles me. Especially since you so vehemently were against the Covid regime demands.
did he vote for Kamala? I never heard him say who he voted for
I didn’t hear him say he opted for Trump but over the years he has attested to lean towards Bernie Sanders and socialism. I’d love to see him tagged for a policy job at the CDC and or FDA. He’d really be ideal.
It's insane how your opinion of someone can be demolished based on who they voted for? "Smart" 🤮🙄
@@richardsubiestanleytotally agree. this is our whole country now though!
@@deidredonovan3864 heavens... Back to the dark ages huh? 😭
Y’all woke me up in 2020 when I was trying to make sense of the world. I’ve never been the same ever since… in a good way ☺️
Thank you for this video. I think a lot of people need your calm wisdom
Bullshit on the “calm wisdom.”
BUMMED that I missed this live! You two yutes have great chemistry. Thanks for the talk,
I listen to Vinay often as his videos are informative and I enjoy his critical thinking, but I admit that I stopped listening after less than 5 minutes so my comment is to be taken in that context. I stopped listening because of Dr Zs apparent lament about the election results. I am so fed up with identity politics; if you are sorry or happy about a candidate winning, it should be solely because of their policies. It should have ZERO to do with their skin color, gender, sexual orientation or anything else.
Maybe it could be based on character, you think.?
You should have kept listening
I was relieved. Feel we have a chance for our economy, health, general sanity. Only problem is the News Media still doesn’t realize they were Unelected.
The word sane and the word trump don’t mesh well together.
@@indranidasgupta8982 Especially after today's news.
Umm I think you need to go back to school and take a civics/government history class. The news media does not need to be "elected." It's a watchdog.
@@Hibernia2324 yeah, it's like he's picking these doofuses at random from a raffle drawing LOL. Completely unhinged and stupid.
@ it is a rabid biased watchdog.
His speech is taken out of context? Have you watched and listened?
Can you explain how Trump's going help poor people?
He will do nothing to help them.
@@mariegrieco39wait till they wake up and say "I didn't vote for that 🥺) but oh yeah yes you did. Good thing 4 years goes by fast, but stacking the SCOTUS with right wing conservatives - ppl gonna have to live with that for 40 years.
Major cabinet positions for MTG and also RFK 😅 who is the biggest personality behind health conspiracies? Good luck with that.
He's supposedly going to dismantle healthcare good luck with that esp ppl who have pre existing conditions
How are people on Medicaid supposed to meet the work requirement if they're completely disabled?
How exactly are jobs supposed to be brought back we don't have the work force to produce what China does.
Wait till a head of lettuce costs $10 bcs now farm labor has to be paid real American wages.
These two bros won't be affected by any of that.
The same way he did when he was in office last time. Cost of everything went down. He is going to eliminate paying taxes on my SS check, no taxes on tips and overtime which will really help my son and granddaughter who both work a ton of overtime. Getting rid of all the crap and poisons in our foods will help our health in the long term. I think people forgot they were getting bigger checks when he was in office and our money went further. I wish they would listen to the podcasts the 2 of them did, Vance and him on Theo Von and Joe Rogan, they are not the villains the state run propaganda media makes them out to be and now they have a power force behind him. I pray for their safety.
Thanks so much for this gents!!😁😁 It was a blast to laugh with you during this episode!😂🙌🏼 Fun fact: my late Italian dad would appreciate the “broken car” segment (my first car was a beat suv).😏 I truly appreciate your perspective and ability to talk through issues in a stable manner!💯💯💯
Love love love listening to this! I listen while doing late late night charting and it’s so entertaining and interesting it keeps me awake while doing med refills and lab reviews.
Well I have heard they may gut the affordable care act (Mike Johnson was caught on tape talking about doing away with it) and veteran health care. I also heard they may go after medicare and medicaid. So a lot of people are screwed regarding healthcare.
70 vaccines for kids is ridiculous
You still alive
I guess f your feelings libs doesn't apply to vaccination inclination?
@@anasifre2479If they are still alive, that doesn’t prove they have 70 vaccines. You are aware that vaccine schedules have been updated and people are able to opt out of certain childhood vaccines. Just wanted to point out that leap in logic.
@anasifre2479 The individual in question appears to be intentionally disregarding corrections and disseminating information that is potentially fear-inducing rather than factual.
Love you guys! Thanks for supplying me with the best medicine of all! AND PLEASE CUSS MORE!
"and where are her dental x rays" you guys i laughed like 14 times out loud during this. My favorite election recap!!!!
You guys together is always the best. I like hearing you bouncing back ideas about medicine and being yourselves. Much better then when you do your individual shows.
As a current pre-med student, feels weird seeing people wearing cloth masks. Also, half of them wear it wrong (below nose)
I am a retired nurse of 40 years and that mask mandate was the dumbest thing I saw, well one of many but the insanity of wearing to your table and then taking it off? It became a virtue signally for many. The only mask I ever wore that would have prevented the virus was the tb helmet we wear I felt.
Thank you guys, entertaining and informative. Still waiting for that guide on how to be a patient for us non-medical peeps.
He is a bafoon....he's always been a bafoon and slimy. I knew this back in the early 80s. I've never liked him and he's done nothing to change my mind.
You are both wonderful! Thanks for the great conversation.
Can we address pediatrician offices “firing” families who choose not to follow all the childhood vaccine recommendations? I’m not an anti-vaxxer, but I’ve always thought it’s medically unethical to preemptively refuse to treat a child for any malady because she might get whooping cough one day. You would seriously rather have NO input on the health and wellbeing of this child as she grows up while her parents are likely driven into more and more questionable woowoo corners of medical advice?
Yep…the AAP (American Academy of Pediatrics) is a not to be taken seriously. It cares nothing for science and will parrot anything that the liberal overlords declare. This was made clear to me in Marty Makery’s book: Blind Spots. (This book pulls the curtain back on the despicable world of medical finance, publishing and re$earch. As a physician…it makes me want to puke). If you’re unfamiliar with him, he has been on a ‘show’ with these two guys before. He is kind of the older sensible broth in contrast to these two goofy younger brothers…it’s pretty cool.
@@juliebenton8978 it isnt about your child. It is about passing a disease to another child who may die. It your child was getting chemo you would want the office to be safe. Killing another child with measles exposed in the pediatric office to measles is how these policies evolved. In children there is strong evidence for vaccination. Otherwise you could have four waiting areas, well vaccinate, well unvaccinated, sick vaccinated , sick unvaccinated. Your right to decide not to vaccinate, but the vulnerable rights supercede. Totally fine to go somewhere else for care.
You guys are having too much fun🎉😂 how refreshing!
Love that you guys went live!
Hey is there any way we can get a transcript of your shows?
About nutritional guidelines, What about the elderly in assisted living places- they are given horrible food and told it’s required by the guidelines😮
Assisted living have some of the BEST food-what weed are you smoking?
The food at my in-law's assisted living facility was excellent. We ate in the dining room with them quite often.
@monykalynf3604 i worked assisted living for a few years. Worked the night shift so I prepared all the meals and know how unhealthy they were.
Love that Trump won!
I hope VP does a deep dive on the midlevel research I really think this is one of the most critically important topics no one talks about. I was a former RN who went to DO school and I have seen a lot of damage done already. The research is so crappy I don’t know how this has happened.
Yes! Vinay, you would be a great addition to the RFK Jr team! You guys should interview Abigail Shrier.
Great show. Glad you two are back
Marty Makary for Trump's Surgeon General!!
Yes! Yes! Yes!
Yessss!😅
He jumped on the menopause bandwagon and has a chapter dedicated to misinformation. He misses the mark on ag too.
This show is soooo awesome 😂!!! It is so refreshing, especially from healthcare professionals. Real talk with humor attached. You both need to be on some national level committee to make effective change in Healthcare.
"...space heater to space heater.." Hahaha! I just drag my oil heater through the house as I navigate the stages of the day when I am home! What can I do about a cold nose though? Hehehe. Thanks for the laughs sprinkled in with the serious talk. Welp, full confession...I cried and I am not ashamed to say so or that I did so. That said, I cried less so in response to how the elections ended up and more in response to the behavior of humans on all sides (ALL). I just broke. It felt great to cry though. Cathartic. Then pulled up my big girl panties and readied myself to be as kind and patient in the world as I can be while recognizing how many beautiful and amazing humans I know first hand who voted and didn't vote in a variety of ways that may not be in alignment with how I voted. I'm still not happy with some of the behavior I am witnessing out there in the world but I'm going to keep loving what's lovable about humanity and learning from what is challenging.
Love you both!! ❤️
Love you guys. So glad free speech is now truly free. Keep up the good work-LRS,MD
free speech never went away FFS
Free speech has always been free, no matter what the Russian propaganda has fed you.
That IS what RFK is saying, he wants subsidies to go toward regenerative agriculture which is real whole nutrient dense food that actually regenerates the soil rather than fully depleting it with pesticides.
Fluoride in toothpaste? Fine. Fluoride in your water source? When you drink, how often do you swish your sip of water around your teeth? When I drink water, I’d say it mostly goes in my mouth along my tongue and down my throat hardly touching my teeth. So what good is it for your teeth?
I don’t drink sunscreen to protect my skin. Fluoride in water never made sense to me.
Correct. At least in toothpaste you can make the choice.
Studies proved efficacy, so your theory is unfounded.
@@thequantaleaperyou're probably trolling but most studies end up on the junkpile.
Fluoride deposits via stomach to bloodstream to teeth, not topical.
Thank you both for what do!
Surgeon General…. Joseph A. Ladapo, MD, PhD