@@LightGamingShortsIt’s obvious to me from the start venture was cheating, but due to venture’s hit reponse it’s not that obvious to people who don’t usually encounter hacks and don’t believe there are so many hacks. I do meet hacks on a regular basis because I used to play CN server, and hacks here aren’t afraid of admitting neither getting banned. It used to be there’s at least a hack in every diamond game, the record was 10 hacks in a game for me in ow1, both side went full rage because someone turned on hard lock, so all hackers started hard locking.
There is a quite a few moments that are clear trigger locks to me. The thing people don't understand about hacks these days is that the people that use hacks generally have a whole assortment of options that allow them to modify the hacks and their sensitivity. There are trigger bots that only enable when you press a button that triggers the aim bot. There are soft lock aim bots that are designed to track relatively well on the character model without just hard tracking the head every time. There are spin bots that can track and lock on at an interframe level. There are even projectile bots that can lead your shots for you based on the direction the enemy character is moving and this isn't even close to all of them. All of these can also have their own individual sensitivity options for how effective each of them are as well. Think of it like aim assist on a controller but your just able to adjust it to Ludacris levels or even adjust it down to just be a slight assist to your natural aiming.
Was hacking all game, just harder to see on venture but they never missed a shot. They had dogshit gameknowledge and landed 90% shots??? Yeah just doesnt happen. Also walling all game.
How has Jay3 not noticed that the venture hit every single shot? you can even see small lock happening everytime they shoot and when they do miss its because theyre using aimbot on a projectile lol. you can be the number 1 venture player and still miss some shots but FKM7 happened to hit 100% of their shots... you owe stwoberi a huge apology Jay
Jay is using the same DMA Hardware cheats as the venture is that's why. "I'll hook you up with the Z" statement wasn't actually a joke he simply made a slip up and stumbled to then try to make it a joke and scramble to then again say it was a joke. He also as far as I can see now is also a Hardware cheaters as well. You guys said it yourself in chat! "So the same as you Jay". Then he threatened to ban the dude one second afterwards!! C'mon guys, it's blatantly obvious there was a cheater and he was defending it as it's literally the same as his game play too!!!
Jay did not even noticed how Venture was tracking people through the wall. At 1:53 Right at the beginning they put the crosshair on the Cassidy jumping from the roof before they even got plain sight of him. You can tell top players dont even know what cheating is like and still think its just straight up insta locking on targets. They probably encounter a lot more cheaters than they realize and dont even know about it lol
@@gingerbread2084 fair untill you realize they were all basically directs, and their direct is harder to hit all the time. It was a trigger bot and they only fired when someone crossed their crosshair
@@Loogie-rt2unthis game was against me and my friend i was speed and my friend was asgri, i can even add if you don’t believe it feels like i’m dreaming
“Good” cheaters will keep the lock low so that it is hard to spot. Aim not looked “on” for Venture and Widow both, but they cranked it when they were getting stomped as widow.
“Are they really cheating chat? Idk” The venture literally never missed a single shot unless it was behind an object/wall. Yall needed him to go widow to see the cheats? 😂cmon jay.
It feels like a LoS trigger bot which is why he sometimes hard focuses on 1 target in front of him until he either kills the target or gets clapped. Around 13:50, when he was originally looking at the Genji, it immediately flicks over to the Widow that he doesn't even know is there and kills her because the Genji goes behind the wall to hide. He's doing his best to hide the hacks in the beginning but they're definitely there.
jay3 saying he wasnt missing a shot 11 minutes in when he was almost 100% accurate on venture before hand, with literally perfect tracking/ prediction is crazy
It seems to be one of the projectile aimbot cheats. For example, the ones people use for hanzo and pharah. It's a cheat for projectiles with travel time unlike just hard locking while playing hitscan.
I think you missed a pretty early tell for wallhacks too, I caught this and I was sad you didn't notice it at the moment --- @6:30 - @6:34 ish, when the widow grapples up, he starts moving to take a shot at her long before she's visible from behind the rock. And I think you're right that they're just mechanically awful at venture, which makes it harder to accuse them when they play like a new player (because they are new to venture, which is almost certainly because they just are actually new to /the new character/, lol)
Personally, i think venture is perfect place for what balance for new hero’s should be. They are strong at what they do, but not oppressively good. Plus, they have obvious weaknesses. What i feel that it is is venture feels fair in close range… but they have to compete in a world where the best hero’s are not fair. Tracer is smaller, faster, kills faster, has more self survivability. Its insane. Plus, hero’s with weaknesses don’t make it nowadays. Soj, orisa, tracer, kiri… what are the weaknesses besides falling asleep to their gameplay in owcs. Lucio is the same to a lesser degree, as reddit lucio is fun to watch. What we as players i think were hoping for was for a meta shakeup, and i think we are using venture as the focal point of the meta not shifting as venture not being good. I also have a theory that venture does better in lower ranked lobbies, where their strength goes less punished (having to either all in for a kill, or trading some lethality for survivability). If players dont punish a venture, they can rip a team a new one, but in high elo lobbies where a hog can hook them from burrow…. Venture can’t be brainless
A new season, a new round of cheaters. Just like yesterday when one of my opponents in QP on Doom got POTG, and his ONLY words throughout the entire match were "No. No please no". I wonder when the Anticheat will come back from vacation.
This whole fking video I was wondering if I had my BTD6 still opened and it was somehow playing the music. Till I realized it was the video after watching nearly all of it 😭
When I heard you say Venture was underpowered, I couldn't help but nod to myself as I can't count how many times I've killed a Venture while playing as Reaper as the players couldn't out damage my healing from shooting them up close.
The interaction at 5:34. Look at 5:32-33 where he dashes in, lands a tick on the mercy with confidence in crosshair placement, then after he's up on the ledge he pans up but then doesn't fire, like he's trying to figure out where his bot triggers because he knows if he tries to just CoM her it'll either miss or it'll compensate and look sus af, follows her then at 34 he lands a tick with his placements well below here any logical player would have placed them.
I just can't believe a guy who struggling move camera around can hit this insane shots on widow, definitely aimboting on window. On bastion he had some kind of softlock. You can se he hits every single shot as long target not moving wide but whenever someone moves one direction he couldn't track this which is definitely easier to aim.
Triggerbot are extremely common in metal ranks, one moment they play shit genji, suddenly they using hitscans and hitting 95% critical hit rate. Its easy to hide triggerbot because it only helps you click not tracking.
"Wouldn't the Widow know the other Widow was there if they had walls?" Sorry, Jay. That assumes the cheater has enough game sense to read the wall data and know they were in an exposed sight line.
I think there's a line somewhere that should be tried to be treaded as good as possible. On on hand, I definitely don't want to be told to kill myself when starting a round, have people walk up to me for no reason (them running in solo and dying) (even if there was a reason, it's unexcusable) and telling me they hope I die in the most painful way possible, and that my whole family should die of cancer (this was a KSA gentleman a couple weeks back) (not the only instance this happened to me) But also people should be allowed to swear, and express their passion for the game. If you get angry because of that and destroy your gaming equipment, that's your own problem. Slurs still shouldn't be allowed though, because like that has really no place in a game nowadays.
Idk how you didn't see this man hitting all his shots on venture while he doesn't even know how to put on his pants the right way lmfaoooo. Also that playing with the exact same team against the exact same team is happening to me a lot lately and i play in high plat so there should be enough people to match up with. It's fun when you know your team should have won but didn't bc of stupid mistakes and then you get revenge but more often you just get matched up with the same dudes that were screaming slurs in vc bc someone took their play and refusing to play together. We need more avoid spots tbh.
5:27 They should decrease the time it takes to go underground after pressing shift at the least and less cooldown time for the right click or just simple 5-10 more damage overall (speaking of Venture)
Guys it was likely a trigger bot. Basically, when the crosshair lines up, the game shoots. That's why he landed all of his widow shots. it was less noticable on bastain and venture cuz they have a lot of bullets or projectiles respectively but he had suspiciously high accuracy on venture.
my self and a friend have had this duo in a couple games last season and they were utter trash, called them out every game yet no one ever believes till peoples like you and Flats ect review codes. The amount of people cheating recently has been utterly stooopid.
Venture is good but not enough, i believe it need qol buffs like allow heal burrowed and drill dash when launched underground it pause the timer until burrowed again
Idk but to me the venture one seemed pretty obvious, someone with that poor of situational awareness and tunnel vision may be able to mechanically just hit every venture shot, but not likely. They definitely had a trigger bot, it didn’t seem that good because trigger bots on projectiles don’t work as well as hit scan. They definitely had some tracking with widow tho
He was using trigger bot and aimbot on m1 held the entire game thats why his aim looked so all over the place but he was still hitting his shots thats why it became so obvious when he smged the orisa in his spawn since he was holding m1 the entire time venture is single click and since it was set to silent aim it would look like weird smooth mouse movements towards targets he at 12:07 it becomes very clear exactly what hes using when he panics and holds down mouse 1 and locks onto orisa
Right before They Swapped to Widow They were Tracking their shots WAY too well for someone who can't aim a Drill Dash .
9:05 is a very very obvious lock on genji
@@LightGamingShortsIt’s obvious to me from the start venture was cheating, but due to venture’s hit reponse it’s not that obvious to people who don’t usually encounter hacks and don’t believe there are so many hacks. I do meet hacks on a regular basis because I used to play CN server, and hacks here aren’t afraid of admitting neither getting banned. It used to be there’s at least a hack in every diamond game, the record was 10 hacks in a game for me in ow1, both side went full rage because someone turned on hard lock, so all hackers started hard locking.
There is a quite a few moments that are clear trigger locks to me. The thing people don't understand about hacks these days is that the people that use hacks generally have a whole assortment of options that allow them to modify the hacks and their sensitivity. There are trigger bots that only enable when you press a button that triggers the aim bot. There are soft lock aim bots that are designed to track relatively well on the character model without just hard tracking the head every time. There are spin bots that can track and lock on at an interframe level. There are even projectile bots that can lead your shots for you based on the direction the enemy character is moving and this isn't even close to all of them. All of these can also have their own individual sensitivity options for how effective each of them are as well. Think of it like aim assist on a controller but your just able to adjust it to Ludacris levels or even adjust it down to just be a slight assist to your natural aiming.
Was hacking all game, just harder to see on venture but they never missed a shot. They had dogshit gameknowledge and landed 90% shots??? Yeah just doesnt happen. Also walling all game.
That's what I'm saying. His aim was shit with Bastion on Route66 but he hit EVERY shot with Widow.
he cheated right off the bat.... this person has horrid positioning and awareness yet can hit 85%+ of their Venture projectiles directly? Lol
How has Jay3 not noticed that the venture hit every single shot? you can even see small lock happening everytime they shoot and when they do miss its because theyre using aimbot on a projectile lol. you can be the number 1 venture player and still miss some shots but FKM7 happened to hit 100% of their shots...
you owe stwoberi a huge apology Jay
1:29 literally misses the first shots
Jay is using the same DMA Hardware cheats as the venture is that's why. "I'll hook you up with the Z" statement wasn't actually a joke he simply made a slip up and stumbled to then try to make it a joke and scramble to then again say it was a joke. He also as far as I can see now is also a Hardware cheaters as well. You guys said it yourself in chat! "So the same as you Jay". Then he threatened to ban the dude one second afterwards!! C'mon guys, it's blatantly obvious there was a cheater and he was defending it as it's literally the same as his game play too!!!
Jay did not even noticed how Venture was tracking people through the wall. At 1:53 Right at the beginning they put the crosshair on the Cassidy jumping from the roof before they even got plain sight of him.
You can tell top players dont even know what cheating is like and still think its just straight up insta locking on targets. They probably encounter a lot more cheaters than they realize and dont even know about it lol
Lmao yes just let flats watch this he would catch everything
@@CitizenTechTalk Bro is making theories out of nothing LMAO
he cheated from the first minute, he didn't miss a single shot on venture.... 100% hit
But hit the shots as Venture is easy, it's a big explosion wich don't go far but it's easy to hit
@@gingerbread2084 fair untill you realize they were all basically directs, and their direct is harder to hit all the time. It was a trigger bot and they only fired when someone crossed their crosshair
projectile aimbot is sometimes hard to spot
@@Loogie-rt2unthis game was against me and my friend i was speed and my friend was asgri, i can even add if you don’t believe it feels like i’m dreaming
that's a lie, I saw them miss multiple times and hit the ground lmao. Did you even watch the clip?
“Good” cheaters will keep the lock low so that it is hard to spot. Aim not looked “on” for Venture and Widow both, but they cranked it when they were getting stomped as widow.
“Are they really cheating chat? Idk”
The venture literally never missed a single shot unless it was behind an object/wall. Yall needed him to go widow to see the cheats? 😂cmon jay.
HE EVEN STARTED QUESTIONING IF IT WAS CHEATS AFTER THE WIDOW. Like, Did he forget the overly blatant locks when on widow? LMAO
when is the oil up video jay
FR, im waiting bro 😫
I would edge soooo hard to that
Man I would edge sooooooo hard to that
fr
Finally someone asking the REAL questions here
Jay you owe berry an apology
100%
Ik strawberi was in there fighting for her life 😭
It feels like a LoS trigger bot which is why he sometimes hard focuses on 1 target in front of him until he either kills the target or gets clapped. Around 13:50, when he was originally looking at the Genji, it immediately flicks over to the Widow that he doesn't even know is there and kills her because the Genji goes behind the wall to hide. He's doing his best to hide the hacks in the beginning but they're definitely there.
Yeah that was deffo a weird shot since this person's gamesense/awareness isn't that good.
jay3 saying he wasnt missing a shot 11 minutes in when he was almost 100% accurate on venture before hand, with literally perfect tracking/ prediction is crazy
This person was cheating the entire time. It took WAY too long for chat and jay to see they weren't missing like ever.
Yea ngl Jay doesn't pick up on it unlike Flats man is an eagle eye when he picks up on the inconsistencies
This cheat is hard to understand.
Some people wouldn't believe me if I told them this was a cheat.
It seems to be one of the projectile aimbot cheats. For example, the ones people use for hanzo and pharah. It's a cheat for projectiles with travel time unlike just hard locking while playing hitscan.
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He had like 95% accurate in most of the time, definitely cheats
Bro he is cheating u can easily see that
"you can get screenshots of your game???" You can screenshot anything, Jay
Maybe Ive watched too much flats cheat vids but you can see at the beginning the bad aim, into pretty good tracking, maybe im crazy
Jay im begging you to learn what a meele triggerbot is 6:35 is so obvious
6:33 Tracks the Widowmaker threw the wall. 2:58 Look closely at cross hair when the enemy gets pulled by Lifeweaver.
9:40 Could just be a coincidence but that little look over in the direction of Orisa looked suspicious to me.
9:05 is a very very obvious lock on
Someone said wallhacks with ads and that person might be onto something
when you look at their crosshair you can instantly notice the jittering of it trying to lock on to targets, plus they never actually miss
I think you missed a pretty early tell for wallhacks too, I caught this and I was sad you didn't notice it at the moment --- @6:30 - @6:34 ish, when the widow grapples up, he starts moving to take a shot at her long before she's visible from behind the rock. And I think you're right that they're just mechanically awful at venture, which makes it harder to accuse them when they play like a new player (because they are new to venture, which is almost certainly because they just are actually new to /the new character/, lol)
I saw it. 2:58 Lifeweaver pull.
9:05 is the most obvious lock on
Their cross hair placement, even in the very beginning was kinda weird considering their gamesense.
crazy how Jay didn't notice the wall hacks on the first round, also looked down when ulting on Venture
As a bastion main you can clearly see the perfect tracking and I can tell right away he was cheating
With bastion it looked like it was trying to follow whoever he was shooting at but not to an overly obvious degree
Not the Bloons tower defence music playing 😂😂😂
bro was toggling his walls
I love how jays just drinking on Alex and Beri until bro flipped the switch
i fucking know?!? bro is literally perfectly tracking on bastion at some point too! 😭 widow 100%
@@stwoberi the constant flaming was funny af to watch tho
@@TheOneTheOnlyOne it was lol always fun to flame jay and he does it back to the chat hahaha it's kinda entertaining
Jay 3 is so tall, buff, handsome, has a manly jensen ackles like voice and a great hairline nothing wrong with it
10:40 Most obvious lock-on known to man. Is this guy blind or just pretending? This is the first painfully clear red flag that he was cheating.
I'm surprised no one noticed the automelee on the Genji lmao. I knew Venture was cheating for sure after that
thought i was going crazy when i noticed the btd music halfway through the vid 😭
Personally, i think venture is perfect place for what balance for new hero’s should be. They are strong at what they do, but not oppressively good. Plus, they have obvious weaknesses. What i feel that it is is venture feels fair in close range… but they have to compete in a world where the best hero’s are not fair. Tracer is smaller, faster, kills faster, has more self survivability. Its insane. Plus, hero’s with weaknesses don’t make it nowadays. Soj, orisa, tracer, kiri… what are the weaknesses besides falling asleep to their gameplay in owcs. Lucio is the same to a lesser degree, as reddit lucio is fun to watch. What we as players i think were hoping for was for a meta shakeup, and i think we are using venture as the focal point of the meta not shifting as venture not being good.
I also have a theory that venture does better in lower ranked lobbies, where their strength goes less punished (having to either all in for a kill, or trading some lethality for survivability). If players dont punish a venture, they can rip a team a new one, but in high elo lobbies where a hog can hook them from burrow…. Venture can’t be brainless
Im low rank right now and my venture is good due to peoples bad awareness and overextended tanks
venture is just one of those characters that are either ganna be super over tuned or super under tuned depending on the the slightest nerf/buff
jay 3: gets ready to watch a video of a cheater also jay3 when the cheater cheats: *overreacts* like it's unexpected
The bloons TD music getting me hyped
9:04 The start of the aimlock, snap to Genji shot
A new season, a new round of cheaters. Just like yesterday when one of my opponents in QP on Doom got POTG, and his ONLY words throughout the entire match were "No. No please no". I wonder when the Anticheat will come back from vacation.
Hey Jay3! 19:37 he ults there so he can combo with his sigmas ult and it make sense since they are duos and got a 4k last time.
BTD6 music is always a plus
You can even see on Sombra when she tracks baptiste and the other one. His hacks has a switch that can toggle on or off anytime the hacker wanted to
6:30 was SOOO OBVIOUS, they started tracking widow behind two walls
i think the guy had his litte brother to play widow when he went to grab some food
This whole fking video I was wondering if I had my BTD6 still opened and it was somehow playing the music. Till I realized it was the video after watching nearly all of it 😭
The hacks are definitely blatant on widow and bastion. They could be soft hacking on the rest of them thus it’s not as noticeable.
When I heard you say Venture was underpowered, I couldn't help but nod to myself as I can't count how many times I've killed a Venture while playing as Reaper as the players couldn't out damage my healing from shooting them up close.
The widow one, maybe scope (right click) triggered the lock shot when left click during scope, maybe
All game obviously wall hacking, I'm surprised jay didn't notice it
its kinda hard to notice, but at 6:18 while the Orisa is spinning, it looks like the crosshair is trying to stick to her. Its very subtle
Why is the Bloons tower defense music playing half way through?
@snoozymp4
why not
The interaction at 5:34. Look at 5:32-33 where he dashes in, lands a tick on the mercy with confidence in crosshair placement, then after he's up on the ledge he pans up but then doesn't fire, like he's trying to figure out where his bot triggers because he knows if he tries to just CoM her it'll either miss or it'll compensate and look sus af, follows her then at 34 he lands a tick with his placements well below here any logical player would have placed them.
I just can't believe a guy who struggling move camera around can hit this insane shots on widow, definitely aimboting on window. On bastion he had some kind of softlock. You can se he hits every single shot as long target not moving wide but whenever someone moves one direction he couldn't track this which is definitely easier to aim.
Bloons TD 6 is popping at 10:50
Triggerbot are extremely common in metal ranks, one moment they play shit genji, suddenly they using hitscans and hitting 95% critical hit rate. Its easy to hide triggerbot because it only helps you click not tracking.
Jay3 thumbnail: 😃
"Wouldn't the Widow know the other Widow was there if they had walls?" Sorry, Jay. That assumes the cheater has enough game sense to read the wall data and know they were in an exposed sight line.
I think there's a line somewhere that should be tried to be treaded as good as possible. On on hand, I definitely don't want to be told to kill myself when starting a round, have people walk up to me for no reason (them running in solo and dying) (even if there was a reason, it's unexcusable) and telling me they hope I die in the most painful way possible, and that my whole family should die of cancer (this was a KSA gentleman a couple weeks back) (not the only instance this happened to me)
But also people should be allowed to swear, and express their passion for the game. If you get angry because of that and destroy your gaming equipment, that's your own problem. Slurs still shouldn't be allowed though, because like that has really no place in a game nowadays.
Idk how you didn't see this man hitting all his shots on venture while he doesn't even know how to put on his pants the right way lmfaoooo. Also that playing with the exact same team against the exact same team is happening to me a lot lately and i play in high plat so there should be enough people to match up with. It's fun when you know your team should have won but didn't bc of stupid mistakes and then you get revenge but more often you just get matched up with the same dudes that were screaming slurs in vc bc someone took their play and refusing to play together. We need more avoid spots tbh.
5:19 "she" 😂😂😂
if was a Brazilian chat: "*crimes*" 💀💀💀
What is that music in the background😭
5:27 They should decrease the time it takes to go underground after pressing shift at the least and less cooldown time for the right click or just simple 5-10 more damage overall (speaking of Venture)
15:26 > This right here. The micro adjustments on baps movement, no way in hell that is legit 😐
How can you be bad at cheating 😂
I think it’s rare for good players to cheat, they don’t need to. Terrible players cheat to feel better or something
This muppet shot me out of invis twice in quickplay. He definitely has walls.
Guys it was likely a trigger bot. Basically, when the crosshair lines up, the game shoots. That's why he landed all of his widow shots. it was less noticable on bastain and venture cuz they have a lot of bullets or projectiles respectively but he had suspiciously high accuracy on venture.
Why is there balloon tower defense music in the background
I was confused why they where shooting teamates till i noticed the color switch lol
even while playing Venture, their crosshair always corrected in a very weird way, always on the heads.
When I realize I’ve played ow iso improve my life today: 13:03
What's up with the bloons TD 6 music??😂😂
11:42 predicting the grapple.
Jay3 watching a video “ guys I don’t think he’s cheating!”
Later on, he sees in fact they were cheating and he was incorrect.
It's crazy you can crappie talk but the second someone crappie talks you on twitch they get banned permenatly
5:18 personal opinion ventures splash distance needs a slight nerf. I have been killed so many times by what seems miles away from the impact point.
I thought this music was familiar Jay.
my self and a friend have had this duo in a couple games last season and they were utter trash, called them out every game yet no one ever believes till peoples like you and Flats ect review codes. The amount of people cheating recently has been utterly stooopid.
Venture is good but not enough, i believe it need qol buffs like allow heal burrowed and drill dash when launched underground it pause the timer until burrowed again
It’s obvious I think maybe Venture being a projectile character makes it less obvious but it was obvious.
You know I hate cheaters but without them we wouldn’t have this content 😂😂
Jay said it could be walls but wall hacks could just be a good set of headphones.
Just made it to the Widow plays, totally hacking lol.
It didn't look like a hacker playing venture because venture isn't a hitscan. The good aim was sus.
Wait WHY Cheat with venture this thing have HIGH dmg , can enter ground no take dmg & gain shield and ult is fucking pain if it
Dude never misses
jays hacking detection skills are just so off lol
We just gonna ignore the blatant walling at the orisa lmao 9:38
Idk but to me the venture one seemed pretty obvious, someone with that poor of situational awareness and tunnel vision may be able to mechanically just hit every venture shot, but not likely. They definitely had a trigger bot, it didn’t seem that good because trigger bots on projectiles don’t work as well as hit scan. They definitely had some tracking with widow tho
guy literally was locking on players through walls several times during video...
Love when it could be a 5 stack and end up being one 😂
One day was so insane fro me. 5 games in QP and only one didnt have an enemy cheater
Lore accurate widow
dude kept wasting turret mode on Bastion.
this guys face scares me
14:36 😂😂😂😂
He was using trigger bot and aimbot on m1 held the entire game thats why his aim looked so all over the place but he was still hitting his shots thats why it became so obvious when he smged the orisa in his spawn since he was holding m1 the entire time venture is single click and since it was set to silent aim it would look like weird smooth mouse movements towards targets he at 12:07 it becomes very clear exactly what hes using when he panics and holds down mouse 1 and locks onto orisa
imagine being so dogwater that people question if you are cheating when you cheat.
absolutely cheating, just soft locking so it didn't look as obvious
"and shes awful"
Their aim on venture was perfect, except when someone was out of range. Thier game-sense was non-existent. Seems like cheating.