WALLAHI Ive had this question on my mind for a few weeks as i want to find a place with unquestionable hadith. Once again sheikh answers my questions just as i think of them. I truly believe Allah is working through your channel. Jazakallah
Lol - we muslims tell the Christians to follow the teachings of Jesus P.B.U.H & stop following Paul who has never met Jesus P.B.U.H , yet here we are following imams who have never met Prophet P.B.U.H + we know they are differing amongst each other on certain matters 🤦♂️ MUSLIM T0 CHRISTIAN - To be on the save side follow what Jesus P.B.U.H said MUSLIM VS MUSLIM MUSLIM A To be on the save side follow what the Prophet P.B.U.H said MUSLIM B We must follow a imam MUSLIM A 🤦♂️ WHY N0T JUST FOLL0W THE QURAN & HADITH
1. Mutawātir ḥadīth has to be Mutawātir on all levels of the Sanad (chain of transmission) so it's not multiplication over time, it's mass transmission from the companions. Obvs there's going to be amazing multiplications but that's not what makes it Mutawātir, there are Āḥād ḥadīth that have 1,000s of transmitters in a lower level of transmission but only from one companion e.g. “Actions are judged by intentions” which is reported in the books by only ʿUmar bin al-Khaṭṭāb. 2. The Qur'an and Sunnah don't not contradict, it is only your misunderstanding. Mutawātir Aḥadīth cannot be rejected on your misunderstanding, the definition of Mutawātir is certainty, so many narrators that is it is inconceivable that they could have agreed upon a lie. A historical fact. Jabir reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said: أُمِرْتُ أَنْ أُقَاتِلَ النَّاسَ حَتَّى يَقُولُوا لَا إِلَهَ إِلَّا اللَّهُ فَإِذَا قَالُوا لَا إِلَهَ إِلَّا اللَّهُ عَصَمُوا مِنِّي دِمَاءَهُمْ وَأَمْوَالَهُمْ إِلَّا بِحَقِّهَا وَحِسَابُهُمْ عَلَى اللَّهِ I have been commanded to fight the people until they say there is no God but Allah. If they say there is no God but Allah, then they will be granted protection from me for their lives and property, except by right of justice, and their reckoning is with Allah. Then, the Prophet recited the verse: إِنَّمَا أَنْتَ مُذَكِّرٌ لَسْتَ عَلَيْهِمْ بِمُصَيْطِرٍ Verily, you are only a reminder. You are not over them as a dictator. (88:22) Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 21, Grade: Sahih Ibn Taymiyah commented on this tradition, writing: مُرَادُهُ قِتَالُ الْمُحَارِبِينَ الَّذِينَ أَذِنَ اللَّهُ فِي قِتَالِهِمْ لَمْ يُرِدْ قِتَالَ الْمُعَاهَدِينَ الَّذِينَ أَمَرَ اللَّهُ بِوَفَاءِ عَهْدِهِمْ The meaning of this tradition is to fight those who are waging war, whom Allah has called us to fight. It does not mean to fight those who have made peace, with whom Allah has commanded us to fulfill their peace. Source: Majmū’ al-Fatāwá 19/20 And Ibn Rajab writes: وَالْمَعْنَى إِنَّمَا عَلَيْكَ تَذْكِيرُهُمْ بِاللَّهِ وَدَعْوَتُهُمْ إِلَيْهِ وَلَسْتَ مُسَلَّطًا عَلَى إِدْخَالِ الْإِيمَانِ فِي قُلُوبِهِمْ قَهْرًا وَلَا مُكَلَّفًا بِذَلِكَ The meaning is that your duty is only to remind them about Allah and to preach to them. You do not have authority to insert faith into their hearts by force; you are not responsible for that. Source: Jāmi’ al-‘Ulūm wal-Ḥikam 1/236 3. Collections of Mutawātir Aḥadīth by Islamic Scholars include: a. al-Fawa’id al-Mutakathira of Imam Jalal al-Din Suyuti b. al-Azhar al-Mutanathira of Imam Jalal al-Din Suyuti, an abridgment of the previously mentioned work of his. c. al-Aali al-Mutanathira of Sham al-Din Muhammad ibn Tulun. d. Luqat al-Aali al-Mutanathira of Murtadha al-Zabidi. e. al-Nazm al-Mutanathir of Sayyid Ja`far al-Kattani
Do we find biblical accounts of the code of conduct at war? Deuteronomy 20 ● That enemy cities must be offered the chance to make peace before being besieged (verses 10-12) ● That when a city was captured only the men were to be executed - the women and children were to be absorbed into Israel and the possessions to be kept (verses 13-15) ● That they were not to use a ’scorched earth’ policy in siege warfare. They must leave the fruit trees belonging to the city standing (verses 19-20).
And these are the exact same rules the Prophet SAW enacted in the rule of his ummah, even though the culture of his nation was originally a pagan nation, they ended up having the same principles of the people of the book, because this is conduct directed on us by the command of God almighty. Even if you want to remain a Christian, seeing the similarity, or to say the exactness, between the uncorrupted principle of Christianity and the principles of Islam, it's very hard to deny that Muhammad SAW was not a true emissary of God.
@@zydhas2838 A little bit late but do you maybe have hadiths/quran verses which shows us that muhammed had the same principles? Would be very interesting!
They are just hadith grading systems, hadith being ahad does not mean it is weak or false the chain of narrations can be less but it is authentic none the less.
The same way they go up the stairs, step by step. First, you are made to doubt the authentic hadith because it is Ahad. When you believe them and ensure that you ascended to the first step, they move to the second level and question you about the mutawatir hadith, then after that it will be easy for them to ascend to the third level, which is to question the Qur’an itself because you have become prepared because you have fallen into the trap since the first step without to know. This is called dilution of religion. They leave you only the outward appearance because it is in fact a completely different new religion.
@@bf6724 Answer my question first there is a hadith in sahih bukhari graded 'authentic' which says that a rock took away Moses' (pbuh ) clothes and he ran after it being naked and everyone saw him (astagfirullah). Do you believe our prophet said such a thing?
@@zahinelahi2655 What exactly is your problem? Is your problem that this incident never happened or do you think it did happen, but the Prophet (PBUH) should not have mentioned this incident. Can you explain what you mean?
@@bf6724 This is a blasphemous story that is insulting to prophet Moses. If you believe in such a thing you are a blasphemer. I dont believe that our Prophet(SAW) ever said such dirty things that are insulting to other prophet and dont serve any purpose. Now answer me do you believe in this hadith?
@@zahinelahi2655 So you are saying that this incident did not happen! Did you meet with Moses (PBUH) and he told you that this did not happen, or maybe a revelation came to you from Allah to tell you that this did not happen? Do I have to believe an ignorant like you or the Prophet (PBUH)? There are those who tried to abused the Prophet of Allah Moses in his body, and Allah cleared him after that incident. O you who have believed, be not like those who abused Moses; then Allah cleared him of what they said. And he, in the sight of Allah, was distinguished. Quran (33:69) Leave your sick understanding to yourself only and do not impose it on others, why don't you say directly that you are looking for any excuse just to deny the Sunnah of the Prophet (PBUH) This verse applies to you and to many ignorant people like you: And of the people is he who worships Allah on an edge. If he is touched by good, he is reassured by it; but if he is struck by trial, he turns on his face [to the other direction]. He has lost [this] world and the Hereafter. That is what is the manifest loss. Quran (22:11) People spend their lives studying and learning the science of hadith and all these accumulations over hundreds of years so that he can in a scientific way determine the degree of validity or weakness of the hadiths. There are other ignorant people who start correcting and weakening hadiths only by opinion! This hadith is true because I liked it, and this hadith is weak because I did not like it, and anyone who disagrees with me is a heretic!!!!! I am sorry to tell you that you are just an ignorant person talking about a science you know nothing about. The science of hadith is a science like physics and mathematics...or any other science in which no one has the right to speak except for specialists. Neither you nor Shabir Ally have the ingredients to speak in such a science.
i have studied some early ISLAMIC leaders said since majority of the Ahadees are single man informed خبر احد , no law can be created based on such Ahadees except faith عقيده #
Salam! Im very interested in what youre saying, could you guide me to the Islamic leaders that have said this and also the sources that you have read this from? (not looking to argue, i agree with what you're saying i just want to learn more)
@@fibonacci3138 early Scholars of Ahnaf ( Scholars of Imam Abu Hanifa ) had clearly declared what i have said & they has argued based on laws & rules of Ahadith # 🇵🇰
Is mutawatir classification given to those Hadith which are beyond a shadow of doubt of him (pbuh) saying it??? I was reading another article on Hadith which said that the Bukhari accepted hadith which were effectively 51% probability of him having said those words. I think this probability of 51% is too low. Especially to base aqeedah on. Anything below 75% should be ignored in my opinion. 75-90% should be given consideration and 90%+ should be considered important enough to base aqeedah on. Even then, so long as they don’t either contradict the Quran (either in spirit or letter). For eg, Hadith on killing non-Muslims is 100% against both the spirit and the letter of the Quran. Even if a ‘scholar’ says there is 99% chance the Prophet said this, this should be ignored because A) it contradicts the Quran B) we’re not 100% sure the prophet said this. Therefore we can’t be taking a life of a human based on 99% probability. Also, no fatwas should be given where they rely mainly on hadith (for example owning a pet dog). In my opinion, the over reliance on Hadith is the biggest issue facing Muslims. So many people actually consider the sahih books to be divine. The mullahs are not doing enough to explain this (particularly because they know this is where they derive most of their ‘powers’ and ‘privileges from’). A) it’s causing confusion and Muslims are leaving the religion B) it’s stopping people from entering the religion en masse. Nowadays you have to be either really certain or insane to become a Muslim. Anybody in the middle - which is the majority are too put off.
@@nasmoh7182 not only should we reject certain ahadith but in fact we ought to, there are undoubtedly weak and even completely falsified ahadith and to pretend that those who wrote ahadith were infallible is basically kufr
Very well Said. I find it extremely problematic I can’t even find authentic biography of the narrators that are written BEFORE the time of imam Bukhari? I want to read and evaluate my self and see how bukhari evaluated the trustworthyness and memory of the narrators as Abu hyuraira or Aisha for example. Or at least the 7 main key narrators. And if I can’t find that? But bukhari found it in THAT time of even all the others in the chain? What is this something feels wrong? I was what is considered a Sunni Muslim but in the later years i just refer to my self as a Muslim who follows the sunnah.
Very well said @haroor, I agree 💯 that's the case, and you diagnosed it perfectly, I don't see any solution to this at large-scale because the virus of "ijmaa" is no less than a pandemic affecting masses and stopping common Muslims to ponder or question what's "established" (by the Sunni scholars).
I think modern muslim are becoming skeptical about hadith because they rely on too much .earlier scholars they accept any hadith even if it fabricated as long as it doest not go clearly against quran or reason or what is known. Hadith which deal with law they were very careful.but if hadith say something which is good they use even if it is weak because the weak hadith there is possibility it could be the prophet said.alot of muslim deal hadith like hanbali which is they rely hadith more than quran and reason and knowledge
So if you dont know exactly how many hadith mutawattir there are, it means that effectively there is no such thing. You say that a modern saudi writer has assembled a book with 322 mutawattir hadith in it. But what about Bukhari or Muslim? Surely they should have known how many hadith mutawattgir there were? But they did not know. Some say there are 200, some say 22 while others say only 2. Same with hadith qudsi. Some say 300, 22 or just 2. Mutawattir means not only narrated by many but more importantly heard by many people. When many people heard it directly from the Rasul then that is considered mutawattir. For example thousands of the sahaba heard the Rasul's Friday sermons. That must be mutawattir. But the fact is there are no records or reports of ANY of the Rasul's Friday sermons. Over at least 11 years (from Hijrah in 621 AD until the Rasul died in 632AD) there were over 570 Fridays. Tens of thousands of the sahaba must have heard ALL those 570 Friday sermons. That would certainly be mutawattir - heard by many and transmitted by many. Yet NONE exist. There is no record of even a single Friday sermon of the Rasul written down or narrated or transmitted by anyone. So much for mutawattir. The whole hadith thing is fake. Just fake. Throw it in the bin.
@@alTursi05 So what you are saying are two things: 1. Different scholars could reject hadith that they did not like. One scholar will accept this hadith while another scholar would reject the same hadith. So hadith can be rejected, depending on mortal scholars. 2. Your Islam is therefore NOT determined by Allah or the Rasul. Instead it is determined by the mortal scholars, most of whom came hundreds of years after the Rasul. It is the scholars who determine for you what is Islam. Not Allah and not the Rasul.
There is initial contradiction between narrations and verses related to kill or embrace Islam. Actual application solved the contradiction. Actual application reveals that kill or embrace Islam was done under specific instruction from Allah on specific people (Arabia pagans only). kids and women were taken as possession. _When the sacred months are over, slay the pagans wherever you find them. Capture, besiege, and ambush them. If they repent, perform prayers and pay the religious tax, set them free. God is All-forgiving and All-merciful._ (The Quran,9,5) Senior and widely recognized Quran interpreter Mohamed Metwaly Al Sharawy said: "According to OT and The Quran the messenger comes with tangible miracle and punishment. The Quran was tangible miracle to Arabia pagans." _Prophet Mohamed peace be upon him said: “No two religions should come together in the land of the Arabs."_
Mohamed peace be upon him fulfilled 'the kill or embrace Islam' prophecy in John 16.08. “And when he comes, he will convict or convince the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of day of judgement.” (John 16.8 Van Dyke) Church claims that one of the meanings of ‘day of judgement’ is his coming on a horse and sword. Men must accept Christianity or be executed. Then he sent letters to the Roman Emperor, Persian King, The ruler of Egypt, The Governor of Syria, The ruler of Bahrain inviting them to Islam in these words: "submit your will to God and you will have complete peace". Imagine today, a small country sends similar letters simultaneously to USA, Europe and China, who would dare? Church also claims that ‘day of judgement’ could mean his coming is close to the day of judgement. This is matching with what the Messenger of Allah (Peace and blessings be upon him) said. "The Hour and I were dispatched like these two" - and Abu Dawud(a narrator) indicated with his index and middle fingers- so, how much more(in length) is one then the other.
Once he questioned the hadith and at the other time the Qur’an itself! I do not know why he does not directly declare this new religion that he preaches!
Does Shabir Ally think that he understands religion better than Abu Bakr (RA) Sahih al-Bukhari 1399, 1400 Narrated Abu Huraira: When Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) died and Abu Bakr became the caliph some Arabs renegade (reverted to disbelief) (Abu Bakr decided to declare war against them), `Umar, said to Abu Bakr, "How can you fight with these people although Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, 'I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight the people till they say: "None has the right to be worshiped but Allah, and whoever said it then he will save his life and property from me except on trespassing the law (rights and conditions for which he will be punished justly), and his accounts will be with Allah.' Abu Bakr said, "By Allah! I will fight those who differentiate between the prayer and the Zakat as Zakat is the compulsory right to be taken from the property (according to Allah's orders) By Allah! If they refuse to pay me even a she-kid which they used to pay at the time of Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him). I would fight with them for withholding it" Then `Umar said, "By Allah, it was nothing, but Allah opened Abu Bakr's chest towards the decision (to fight) and I came to know that his decision was right."
Yep. True. So true. No mutawatir Hadith - because- drumrolls- they were made up after 750. Together with the Sira of a prophet that did not exist. Also - “kill when you find them till they repent (to Islam)” - and what happened to “to me is my religion and to you is yours?” …. The Quran is not much better than the Hadith - it still urges the believers toward perpetuating war by giving resources or life.
WALLAHI Ive had this question on my mind for a few weeks as i want to find a place with unquestionable hadith. Once again sheikh answers my questions just as i think of them. I truly believe Allah is working through your channel. Jazakallah
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Lol - we muslims tell the Christians to follow the teachings of Jesus P.B.U.H & stop following Paul who has never met Jesus P.B.U.H , yet here we are following imams who have never met Prophet P.B.U.H + we know they are differing amongst each other on certain matters 🤦♂️
MUSLIM T0 CHRISTIAN - To be on the save side follow what Jesus P.B.U.H said
MUSLIM VS MUSLIM
MUSLIM A To be on the save side follow what the Prophet P.B.U.H said
MUSLIM B We must follow a imam
MUSLIM A 🤦♂️ WHY N0T JUST FOLL0W THE QURAN & HADITH
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I’m now little over a year Muslim and I’m so grateful to be Muslim living in this time. So much room to think and research
1. Mutawātir ḥadīth has to be Mutawātir on all levels of the Sanad (chain of transmission) so it's not multiplication over time, it's mass transmission from the companions. Obvs there's going to be amazing multiplications but that's not what makes it Mutawātir, there are Āḥād ḥadīth that have 1,000s of transmitters in a lower level of transmission but only from one companion e.g. “Actions are judged by intentions” which is reported in the books by only ʿUmar bin al-Khaṭṭāb.
2. The Qur'an and Sunnah don't not contradict, it is only your misunderstanding. Mutawātir Aḥadīth cannot be rejected on your misunderstanding, the definition of Mutawātir is certainty, so many narrators that is it is inconceivable that they could have agreed upon a lie. A historical fact.
Jabir reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said:
أُمِرْتُ أَنْ أُقَاتِلَ النَّاسَ حَتَّى يَقُولُوا لَا إِلَهَ إِلَّا اللَّهُ فَإِذَا قَالُوا لَا إِلَهَ إِلَّا اللَّهُ عَصَمُوا مِنِّي دِمَاءَهُمْ وَأَمْوَالَهُمْ إِلَّا بِحَقِّهَا وَحِسَابُهُمْ عَلَى اللَّهِ
I have been commanded to fight the people until they say there is no God but Allah. If they say there is no God but Allah, then they will be granted protection from me for their lives and property, except by right of justice, and their reckoning is with Allah.
Then, the Prophet recited the verse:
إِنَّمَا أَنْتَ مُذَكِّرٌ لَسْتَ عَلَيْهِمْ بِمُصَيْطِرٍ
Verily, you are only a reminder. You are not over them as a dictator. (88:22)
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 21, Grade: Sahih
Ibn Taymiyah commented on this tradition, writing:
مُرَادُهُ قِتَالُ الْمُحَارِبِينَ الَّذِينَ أَذِنَ اللَّهُ فِي قِتَالِهِمْ لَمْ يُرِدْ قِتَالَ الْمُعَاهَدِينَ الَّذِينَ أَمَرَ اللَّهُ بِوَفَاءِ عَهْدِهِمْ
The meaning of this tradition is to fight those who are waging war, whom Allah has called us to fight. It does not mean to fight those who have made peace, with whom Allah has commanded us to fulfill their peace.
Source: Majmū’ al-Fatāwá 19/20
And Ibn Rajab writes:
وَالْمَعْنَى إِنَّمَا عَلَيْكَ تَذْكِيرُهُمْ بِاللَّهِ وَدَعْوَتُهُمْ إِلَيْهِ وَلَسْتَ مُسَلَّطًا عَلَى إِدْخَالِ الْإِيمَانِ فِي قُلُوبِهِمْ قَهْرًا وَلَا مُكَلَّفًا بِذَلِكَ
The meaning is that your duty is only to remind them about Allah and to preach to them. You do not have authority to insert faith into their hearts by force; you are not responsible for that.
Source: Jāmi’ al-‘Ulūm wal-Ḥikam 1/236
3. Collections of Mutawātir Aḥadīth by Islamic Scholars include:
a. al-Fawa’id al-Mutakathira of Imam Jalal al-Din Suyuti
b. al-Azhar al-Mutanathira of Imam Jalal al-Din Suyuti, an abridgment of the previously mentioned work of his.
c. al-Aali al-Mutanathira of Sham al-Din Muhammad ibn Tulun.
d. Luqat al-Aali al-Mutanathira of Murtadha al-Zabidi.
e. al-Nazm al-Mutanathir of Sayyid Ja`far al-Kattani
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A great series overall, so informative & balanced too, thank you to the team for your efforts! :))
The oldest hadith and the mass transmitted hadith are the hadith I trust the most.
لا اله الا انت سبحانك اني كنت من الظالمين
Is there a book of strong and valid hadith you can refer me to?
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Do we find biblical accounts of the code of conduct at war?
Deuteronomy 20
● That enemy cities must be offered the chance to make peace before being besieged (verses 10-12)
● That when a city was captured only the men were to be executed - the women and children were to be absorbed into Israel and the possessions to be kept (verses 13-15)
● That they were not to use a ’scorched earth’ policy in siege warfare. They must leave the fruit trees belonging to the city standing (verses 19-20).
And these are the exact same rules the Prophet SAW enacted in the rule of his ummah, even though the culture of his nation was originally a pagan nation, they ended up having the same principles of the people of the book, because this is conduct directed on us by the command of God almighty.
Even if you want to remain a Christian, seeing the similarity, or to say the exactness, between the uncorrupted principle of Christianity and the principles of Islam, it's very hard to deny that Muhammad SAW was not a true emissary of God.
@@zydhas2838 A little bit late but do you maybe have hadiths/quran verses which shows us that muhammed had the same principles? Would be very interesting!
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Dr. Shabir Ally their is a compilation of mutawatir Hadith by Imam suyuti and also Imam az Zabadi.
Yeah, you are right! But he specifies to translated work and I think Imam Suyuti's works haven't been translated to English yet.
But the mutawatir hadith referred to aligns with 9:29.
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This may help
They are just hadith grading systems, hadith being ahad does not mean it is weak or false the chain of narrations can be less but it is authentic none the less.
The same way they go up the stairs, step by step.
First, you are made to doubt the authentic hadith because it is Ahad. When you believe them and ensure that you ascended to the first step, they move to the second level and question you about the mutawatir hadith, then after that it will be easy for them to ascend to the third level, which is to question the Qur’an itself because you have become prepared because you have fallen into the trap since the first step without to know.
This is called dilution of religion. They leave you only the outward appearance because it is in fact a completely different new religion.
@@bf6724 Answer my question first there is a hadith in sahih bukhari graded 'authentic' which says that a rock took away Moses' (pbuh ) clothes and he ran after it being naked and everyone saw him (astagfirullah). Do you believe our prophet said such a thing?
@@zahinelahi2655 What exactly is your problem?
Is your problem that this incident never happened or do you think it did happen, but the Prophet (PBUH) should not have mentioned this incident.
Can you explain what you mean?
@@bf6724 This is a blasphemous story that is insulting to prophet Moses. If you believe in such a thing you are a blasphemer. I dont believe that our Prophet(SAW) ever said such dirty things that are insulting to other prophet and dont serve any purpose. Now answer me do you believe in this hadith?
@@zahinelahi2655 So you are saying that this incident did not happen!
Did you meet with Moses (PBUH) and he told you that this did not happen, or maybe a revelation came to you from Allah to tell you that this did not happen?
Do I have to believe an ignorant like you or the Prophet (PBUH)?
There are those who tried to abused the Prophet of Allah Moses in his body, and Allah cleared him after that incident.
O you who have believed, be not like those who abused Moses; then Allah cleared him of what they said. And he, in the sight of Allah, was distinguished.
Quran (33:69)
Leave your sick understanding to yourself only and do not impose it on others, why don't you say directly that you are looking for any excuse just to deny the Sunnah of the Prophet (PBUH)
This verse applies to you and to many ignorant people like you:
And of the people is he who worships Allah on an edge. If he is touched by good, he is reassured by it; but if he is struck by trial, he turns on his face [to the other direction]. He has lost [this] world and the Hereafter. That is what is the manifest loss.
Quran (22:11)
People spend their lives studying and learning the science of hadith and all these accumulations over hundreds of years so that he can in a scientific way determine the degree of validity or weakness of the hadiths.
There are other ignorant people who start correcting and weakening hadiths only by opinion! This hadith is true because I liked it, and this hadith is weak because I did not like it, and anyone who disagrees with me is a heretic!!!!!
I am sorry to tell you that you are just an ignorant person talking about a science you know nothing about.
The science of hadith is a science like physics and mathematics...or any other science in which no one has the right to speak except for specialists. Neither you nor Shabir Ally have the ingredients to speak in such a science.
i have studied some early ISLAMIC leaders said since majority of the Ahadees are single man informed خبر احد , no law can be created based on such Ahadees except faith عقيده #
even aqeedah is not based on ahad, all necessary aqeedah is already in the quran
Salam! Im very interested in what youre saying, could you guide me to the Islamic leaders that have said this and also the sources that you have read this from? (not looking to argue, i agree with what you're saying i just want to learn more)
@@fibonacci3138 early Scholars of Ahnaf ( Scholars of Imam Abu Hanifa ) had clearly declared what i have said & they has argued based on laws & rules of Ahadith # 🇵🇰
Is mutawatir classification given to those Hadith which are beyond a shadow of doubt of him (pbuh) saying it??? I was reading another article on Hadith which said that the Bukhari accepted hadith which were effectively 51% probability of him having said those words. I think this probability of 51% is too low. Especially to base aqeedah on.
Anything below 75% should be ignored in my opinion.
75-90% should be given consideration and
90%+ should be considered important enough to base aqeedah on. Even then, so long as they don’t either contradict the Quran (either in spirit or letter).
For eg, Hadith on killing non-Muslims is 100% against both the spirit and the letter of the Quran. Even if a ‘scholar’ says there is 99% chance the Prophet said this, this should be ignored because
A) it contradicts the Quran
B) we’re not 100% sure the prophet said this.
Therefore we can’t be taking a life of a human based on 99% probability.
Also, no fatwas should be given where they rely mainly on hadith (for example owning a pet dog).
In my opinion, the over reliance on Hadith is the biggest issue facing Muslims. So many people actually consider the sahih books to be divine. The mullahs are not doing enough to explain this (particularly because they know this is where they derive most of their ‘powers’ and ‘privileges from’).
A) it’s causing confusion and Muslims are leaving the religion
B) it’s stopping people from entering the religion en masse. Nowadays you have to be either really certain or insane to become a Muslim.
Anybody in the middle - which is the majority are too put off.
very well said
Your statement is nonsensical. Made up stats to reject hadith.
@@nasmoh7182 not only should we reject certain ahadith but in fact we ought to, there are undoubtedly weak and even completely falsified ahadith and to pretend that those who wrote ahadith were infallible is basically kufr
Very well Said.
I find it extremely problematic I can’t even find authentic biography of the narrators that are written BEFORE the time of imam Bukhari?
I want to read and evaluate my self and see how bukhari evaluated the trustworthyness and memory of the narrators as Abu hyuraira or Aisha for example. Or at least the 7 main key narrators. And if I can’t find that? But bukhari found it in THAT time of even all the others in the chain? What is this something feels wrong?
I was what is considered a Sunni Muslim but in the later years i just refer to my self as a Muslim who follows the sunnah.
Very well said @haroor, I agree 💯 that's the case, and you diagnosed it perfectly, I don't see any solution to this at large-scale because the virus of "ijmaa" is no less than a pandemic affecting masses and stopping common Muslims to ponder or question what's "established" (by the Sunni scholars).
I think modern muslim are becoming skeptical about hadith because they rely on too much .earlier scholars they accept any hadith even if it fabricated as long as it doest not go clearly against quran or reason or what is known. Hadith which deal with law they were very careful.but if hadith say something which is good they use even if it is weak because the weak hadith there is possibility it could be the prophet said.alot of muslim deal hadith like hanbali which is they rely hadith more than quran and reason and knowledge
MashaAllah
So if you dont know exactly how many hadith mutawattir there are, it means that effectively there is no such thing. You say that a modern saudi writer has assembled a book with 322 mutawattir hadith in it. But what about Bukhari or Muslim? Surely they should have known how many hadith mutawattgir there were? But they did not know. Some say there are 200, some say 22 while others say only 2. Same with hadith qudsi. Some say 300, 22 or just 2. Mutawattir means not only narrated by many but more importantly heard by many people. When many people heard it directly from the Rasul then that is considered mutawattir. For example thousands of the sahaba heard the Rasul's Friday sermons. That must be mutawattir. But the fact is there are no records or reports of ANY of the Rasul's Friday sermons. Over at least 11 years (from Hijrah in 621 AD until the Rasul died in 632AD) there were over 570 Fridays. Tens of thousands of the sahaba must have heard ALL those 570 Friday sermons. That would certainly be mutawattir - heard by many and transmitted by many. Yet NONE exist. There is no record of even a single Friday sermon of the Rasul written down or narrated or transmitted by anyone. So much for mutawattir. The whole hadith thing is fake. Just fake. Throw it in the bin.
The reason the amount differs according to different scholars is because they had different conditions for a Hadīth to be mutawātir.
@@alTursi05 So what you are saying are two things:
1. Different scholars could reject hadith that they did not like. One scholar will accept this hadith while another scholar would reject the same hadith. So hadith can be rejected, depending on mortal scholars.
2. Your Islam is therefore NOT determined by Allah or the Rasul. Instead it is determined by the mortal scholars, most of whom came hundreds of years after the Rasul. It is the scholars who determine for you what is Islam. Not Allah and not the Rasul.
There is initial contradiction between narrations and verses related to kill or embrace Islam.
Actual application solved the contradiction.
Actual application reveals that kill or embrace Islam was done under specific instruction from Allah on specific people (Arabia pagans only). kids and women were taken as possession.
_When the sacred months are over, slay the pagans wherever you find them. Capture, besiege, and ambush them. If they repent, perform prayers and pay the religious tax, set them free. God is All-forgiving and All-merciful._ (The Quran,9,5)
Senior and widely recognized Quran interpreter Mohamed Metwaly Al Sharawy said: "According to OT and The Quran the messenger comes with tangible miracle and punishment. The Quran was tangible miracle to Arabia pagans."
_Prophet Mohamed peace be upon him said: “No two religions should come together in the land of the Arabs."_
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Why to you have to bring up the Bible every time you are asked about Islam?
That's the only way the Qur'an can ever make sense....allow them😊
Why does it bother you so much?
Sabbir needs a basic education on Mutawatir. His deliverance is grossly misleading and offensive. Wiki shouldn't be your only source of reference.
Mohamed peace be upon him fulfilled 'the kill or embrace Islam' prophecy in John 16.08. “And when he comes, he will convict or convince the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of day of judgement.” (John 16.8 Van Dyke)
Church claims that one of the meanings of ‘day of judgement’ is his coming on a horse and sword. Men must accept Christianity or be executed.
Then he sent letters to the Roman Emperor, Persian King, The ruler of Egypt, The Governor of Syria, The ruler of Bahrain inviting them to Islam in these words: "submit your will to God and you will have complete peace". Imagine today, a small country sends similar letters simultaneously to USA, Europe and China, who would dare?
Church also claims that ‘day of judgement’ could mean his coming is close to the day of judgement.
This is matching with what the Messenger of Allah (Peace and blessings be upon him) said. "The Hour and I were dispatched like these two" - and Abu Dawud(a narrator) indicated with his index and middle fingers- so, how much more(in length) is one then the other.
Once he questioned the hadith and at the other time the Qur’an itself!
I do not know why he does not directly declare this new religion that he preaches!
When? Which video? PlZz tell me
He does question the Quran. He believes in the Quran. The questions Hadith as does 95 % percent of Muslims.
Does Shabir Ally think that he understands religion better than Abu Bakr (RA)
Sahih al-Bukhari 1399, 1400
Narrated Abu Huraira:
When Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) died and Abu Bakr became the caliph some Arabs renegade (reverted to disbelief) (Abu Bakr decided to declare war against them), `Umar, said to Abu Bakr, "How can you fight with these people although Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, 'I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight the people till they say: "None has the right to be worshiped but Allah, and whoever said it then he will save his life and property from me except on trespassing the law (rights and conditions for which he will be punished justly), and his accounts will be with Allah.' Abu Bakr said, "By Allah! I will fight those who differentiate between the prayer and the Zakat as Zakat is the compulsory right to be taken from the property (according to Allah's orders) By Allah! If they refuse to pay me even a she-kid which they used to pay at the time of Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him). I would fight with them for withholding it" Then `Umar said, "By Allah, it was nothing, but Allah opened Abu Bakr's chest towards the decision (to fight) and I came to know that his decision was right."
Yep. True. So true. No mutawatir Hadith - because- drumrolls- they were made up after 750. Together with the Sira of a prophet that did not exist. Also - “kill when you find them till they repent (to Islam)” - and what happened to “to me is my religion and to you is yours?” …. The Quran is not much better than the Hadith - it still urges the believers toward perpetuating war by giving resources or life.
The Quran doesn’t say kill non believers you took out of context the verse you need to read the other verses together the Quran rejects literalism.
Nonsense. This verse is during war that was occurring then. Not now. Read what comes before and after.
This person is didn't know such about Islam....