Cersei tells Tywin her secret

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  • @deannas2778
    @deannas2778 Рік тому +14607

    technically his legacy isn't a lie his grandbabies were 100 percent Lannister.

    • @novatheraven
      @novatheraven Рік тому

      @@monmothma3358 if you think about it, it’s very similar too Lann the clever the first Lannister who was rumored too have snuck into casterly rock and impregnate the daughters of the King of the Rock putting his own blood on the throne supplanting the family there

    • @colleenharding8665
      @colleenharding8665 Рік тому +248

      Technically they’re the most Lannister Lannisters that have ever Lannistered in all of history.

    • @roxxy9324
      @roxxy9324 Рік тому +13

      Haha I came here to say this

    • @jwiese100
      @jwiese100 Рік тому +40

      Now Tyiron is his legacy. Last Lannister standing.

    • @kaseybones
      @kaseybones Рік тому +4

      Was literally just going to comment this

  • @Pratip.
    @Pratip. Рік тому +8560

    The only moment Cersei actually was able to emotionally hurt her father, Tywin.

    • @enigma9971
      @enigma9971 Рік тому +207

      The one moment anyone ever hurt him

    • @vh8542
      @vh8542 Рік тому +378

      ​@@enigma9971 well I'm sure the arrows were a close second.

    • @katiejenkins4532
      @katiejenkins4532 Рік тому +154

      I'm not sure that's hurt as much as utter disgust. I think there's a part of him maybe trying to convince himself she's lying either to hurt or shock him but say what you will about Tywin but he is very smart and very strategical so I'm pretty sure deep down he realizes Cersei isn't lying. So, if word got out and people realized this, that would illigitimize Joffery, Tommen and Marcella so....who who be the rightful heir to the thrown? I guess Gendry? Lol

    • @sindelscat9336
      @sindelscat9336 Рік тому +37

      ​@@katiejenkins4532 Stannis technically

    • @janellejulianajoy
      @janellejulianajoy Рік тому +57

      ​@@katiejenkins4532 He's always believed it. It's called denial.

  • @maestroclassico5801
    @maestroclassico5801 Рік тому +6315

    Cmon Tywin.....they were all blonde and looked NOTHING LIKE ROBERT.

    • @fortheloveofcats2462
      @fortheloveofcats2462 Рік тому +152

      Because they were Cersei's children. Have you seriously never seen cases of children looking like their mothers?

    • @dergotzvonberlichingen4880
      @dergotzvonberlichingen4880 Рік тому +416

      ​@@fortheloveofcats2462 have yoj ever seen Baratheon children with blond hair? The seed is strong.

    • @maestroclassico5801
      @maestroclassico5801 Рік тому +257

      @@fortheloveofcats2462 Because as Ned discovered by looking at the archives, All of the Baratheon men had dark hair. Did you watch the show?

    • @CatherineAaBb
      @CatherineAaBb Рік тому +243

      ​​@@fortheloveofcats2462 even Ned Stark living in a late medieval period without any genetic knowledge knew that brown hair/eyes/skin are dominant genes

    • @fortheloveofcats2462
      @fortheloveofcats2462 Рік тому +36

      @@maestroclassico5801 I did, and while that was luckily the truth (it still ended up badly for Ned) there was a very good probability that Cersei's children would look like her, whatever the father may have looked like. Ned Stark did a gamble which cost him his life.

  • @javiervalenzuela8284
    @javiervalenzuela8284 Рік тому +4621

    Meh, he knew, he just didn't want to.

    • @icoleman150
      @icoleman150 Рік тому +175

      Exactly. Denial. But he was never gonna admit this was true

    • @juliushill5153
      @juliushill5153 Рік тому +24

      You know what else? He didn't like people ending their sentences with prepositions.

    • @javiervalenzuela8284
      @javiervalenzuela8284 Рік тому +20

      @@juliushill5153 good thing to would be part of an infinitive here.

    • @yevgeniyaleshchenko849
      @yevgeniyaleshchenko849 7 місяців тому +3

      @@juliushill5153 You know what else? Noone likes a smug know-it-all that is not even a real know-it-all because he/she doesn't know basic things because there was no mistake made in the OP's post.

    • @TommoBoiYo
      @TommoBoiYo 7 місяців тому +6

      You can see it in his eyes. He knew what was coming. One of the two people who could affirm the truth was about to say it out loud.

  • @thedigitalbash1506
    @thedigitalbash1506 Рік тому +1511

    This is probably the only time we saw fear/nervousness in Tywins eyes. He knew what she was about to say but didn't want to believe it.

    • @bitzibaerlie
      @bitzibaerlie 5 місяців тому +48

      I love his fidgeting at the end of this clip. He usually has so much control over his posture (which Charles Dance is able to pull off brilliantly) that this is really telling how badly this conversation shook him.

    • @thedigitalbash1506
      @thedigitalbash1506 5 місяців тому +8

      @@bitzibaerlie correct.

    • @Tesko91
      @Tesko91 3 місяці тому +15

      In my opinion this is one of - if not THE - best acted scenes in the entire show. It's insane how much he conveys with just his eyes, he was literally less terrified when Tyrion killed him.
      All the actors on the show are incredible, but Charles Dance as Tywin is something else, with his mere presence demanding respect at all times.
      I can't think of another instance where he lost a power struggle and didn't (couldn't) even attempt to regain control, assert his dominance or at the very least appear unfazed.
      A scared, speechless and defenseless Tywin was amazing to witness. It's like imagining The Hound becoming a motivational speaker or something haha.
      God I miss the earlier seasons . I'll never forgive them for destroying GoT.

    • @SerendipityTrouvaille
      @SerendipityTrouvaille Місяць тому +2

      Yup! Tywin is obviously in denial.

    • @SAGEXX309
      @SAGEXX309 22 дні тому

      Nah, it was in his eyes again the moment Tyrion caught him on the sh*tter at arrow point.

  • @FuzzyStarburst
    @FuzzyStarburst Рік тому +2682

    Tywin was practically immortal and infallible. His ONLY weakness were his 3 children and his inability to look past his dynastic pride. Every single fuck up he ever makes while playing the game of thrones relates directly to his inability to see, understand, and handle his kids.

    • @comkver
      @comkver Рік тому

      His weakness were whores... Just like his daddy.

    • @jaredkelly7218
      @jaredkelly7218 11 місяців тому +103

      Got him killed too.
      He was a sinful man, and he paid the price

    •  11 місяців тому +6

      ​@@jaredkelly7218Well he was very likely poisoned so he was dying anyway :-D

    • @zaxbitterzen2178
      @zaxbitterzen2178 9 місяців тому +8

      Not necessarily. It was still years worth of betrayal on his children's part when they should've been loyal to their house above all else. Tywin prides loyalty above anything else and his children still chose to undermine his authority. Every instance of them denying his suggestions and commands you visibly see how much worse it made things.

    • @waynepolo6193
      @waynepolo6193 8 місяців тому +48

      ​@@zaxbitterzen2178Authority? Where is this contract that newborns must sign upon leaving the womb? Children make no agreements as to when, where, or to whom they are born. They owe their parents nothing for simply bringing about their existance.
      Besides, where is this crystal ball of yours that tells you Tywin's plans would have worked out any better in the end?

  • @zerjiozerjio
    @zerjiozerjio 8 місяців тому +636

    that wicked smile when she says his legacy is a lie.
    Lena is a phenomenal actress.

    • @Shawn-st2lx
      @Shawn-st2lx 3 місяці тому

      She's probably a malevolent person in real life, the look comes easy to her.

  • @christinaify
    @christinaify 2 місяці тому +56

    The twisted glee in her voice when she delivers the line "your legacy is a lie" is perfect.

  • @halyketarrant
    @halyketarrant Рік тому +798

    You see, I think this is the Moment where Tywin died for real. Tyrion just took care of the body.

    • @rheahorvath9274
      @rheahorvath9274 Рік тому +23

      👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
      Wow!! Correct & well spoken!!

    • @halyketarrant
      @halyketarrant Рік тому +10

      @@rheahorvath9274 oh thanks, for real! I’m not an english native speaker, hence your comment is more than pleasing to me 😍

    • @rheahorvath9274
      @rheahorvath9274 Рік тому +7

      @@halyketarrant I would have NEVER guessed!! Congrats! My respect!! ♥️♥️♥️♥️

    • @chessplayer1202
      @chessplayer1202 11 місяців тому +16

      What a nonsense. Without Tyrion killing Tywin, Tywin would have won Game of Thrones. There wouldn’t be a rebellion of the high sparrow. Tywin would have stayed the number 1 in kingslanding and made better preparations for the war against Dany.

    • @halyketarrant
      @halyketarrant 11 місяців тому +12

      @@chessplayer1202 do you want for me to explain figurative talking to you?

  • @apologicablog
    @apologicablog Рік тому +636

    “I don’t believe you”
    “Yes you do”
    Thinking it through, that’s prolly the hardest punch she could have landed here. Nothing more needs to be said…

    • @bellamijaymes2153
      @bellamijaymes2153 6 місяців тому +4

      I agree

    • @melissacarmona1358
      @melissacarmona1358 3 місяці тому +6

      And she said it soft and final. He knew exactly what she was capable of when she walked off. He did that double take lol

  • @nicholasblack9301
    @nicholasblack9301 11 місяців тому +117

    Lena Headey was amazing as Cersei. The spiteful pride she has when she says "your legacy is a lie"

  • @stevenrolland4032
    @stevenrolland4032 4 місяці тому +44

    Tywin biggest flaw was denial. The denial of the relationship between Cersei and Jamie and the denial of Tyrion being his perfect heir

  • @Terridactal1966
    @Terridactal1966 Рік тому +619

    Of course he knew! All Tywin cared about was the power that he got from having his grandkids on the Iron Thro ne

    • @naqihassan4318
      @naqihassan4318 Рік тому +7

      You have no idea what he wanted but ok.

    • @megmur1766
      @megmur1766 Рік тому +26

      He definitely would've freaked if he'd ever believed it

    • @andreasul2608
      @andreasul2608 Рік тому +7

      Not really, he wanted it for the reason of fullfilling his true goal. He wanted to leave a powerfull and memorable legacy and be remembered for ages to come. His legacy was his most important thing, so if by having power means great legacy, then yes he wanted that, but only because it helped him achieve what he really wanted.

    • @martinsmith8019
      @martinsmith8019 11 місяців тому +4

      ​@@andreasul2608exactly this. He despised his father for making a mockery of his house. Tywins entire goal was to restore house lannister to its former glory and leave it in a good position to continue, so cersei's words definitely cut him deep here.

    • @kernalbert4939
      @kernalbert4939 8 місяців тому

      @@martinsmith8019 You are confusing book with show. In the show, Tywin's father did not impoverish the House and so Tywin did not have that as motivation to achieve. This is just a second rate attempt at compelling storytelling. As a character, this Tywin, would not care. Just like in the new (better written) series where Corlys was cool with the "strong" boys.

  • @made-line7627
    @made-line7627 Рік тому +103

    Lena's delivery is so good. I love the way she says, "Your legacy is a lie." Every bloody time.

  • @anjelica948
    @anjelica948 Рік тому +158

    Denial is an extremely powerful thing. I’m sure Tywin spent an enormous amount of mental energy actively ignoring and dismissing what everyone else around him knew to be true. His obsession with needing his family to be perfect and infallible made it so he couldn’t admit the truth to himself, even though it was so obvious.

  • @princelevi3733
    @princelevi3733 Рік тому +440

    The only time you see tywin in fear

    • @user-ob4sq6fi3s
      @user-ob4sq6fi3s Рік тому +38

      The moment he understood how dangerous Cersei is. He'd certainly deal with her if Tyrion hadn't gotten to him first

    • @scLefQ
      @scLefQ Рік тому +29

      It wasn't fear. It was his plans ruined. The least he hoped for was her taking that to her grave. Now she is not only willing to tell him this to his face, but possibly crazy enough to be open about it.

    • @bullgravy6906
      @bullgravy6906 Місяць тому +2

      @@scLefQthat’s what I took from it as well. With her just openly admitting it he knows how that can completely destroy everything. I suspect that at that moment was his realization that he would have to have her killed or that she would have him killed

  • @randomcenturion7264
    @randomcenturion7264 Рік тому +126

    I may hate her guts but I'm glad she hurt him like that before he died on the crapper.

    • @blizzardgaming7070
      @blizzardgaming7070 Рік тому +9

      It definetly wasn't gold.

    • @nicksmithnutmilk
      @nicksmithnutmilk 6 місяців тому

      He was gonna die that night no matter what . He was poisoned

    • @propogandalf
      @propogandalf 3 місяці тому

      ​@@nicksmithnutmilkBy who?

    • @nicksmithnutmilk
      @nicksmithnutmilk 3 місяці тому

      @@propogandalf Oberyn . He made sure that both Gregor and Tywin die

  • @Kaylee-Renee
    @Kaylee-Renee Рік тому +289

    He knew he just couldn't admit it to himself.
    We lie to ourselves all the time when deep down we know the truth.
    Denial can be very hard to break.

    • @Jerry-ej3cm
      @Jerry-ej3cm 3 місяці тому

      @Kaylee - Renee yes, he knew alright. But here's my take on it. It was as if , as long as neither one of the two told him , it was like it was ( almost, not quite ) alright.. and also , he wasnt gonna believe it, until one of them did just that. You had to know, it would be her, and why not ?? He also didn't want to hear it for obvious and several reasons.. it was like, it couldn't and wouldn't be true otherwise. And as long as his ears didn't actually hear the words themselves, he could live in his own little " private hell " , and nobody's the wiser, if you will..personally, I think it had little to do with legacy ( I mean, as far as he was concerned ) and more about, idk.. to me, maybe he wanted to somehow, try anyway, to make amends ??? I'm not really sure about that one myself tbh, but things were changing for sure... all of this, is IMHO mind you... thank you kindly. !!! 😊😊😊

  • @DirtPerson
    @DirtPerson Рік тому +41

    If the Lannisters all loved, supported, and understood each other, they'd have ruled all of Westeros and most of Essos.

  • @TheSamuraijim87
    @TheSamuraijim87 8 місяців тому +19

    A man who sees 7 Kingdoms can't see his own children. A brilliant irony.
    Also it's incredible how well Charles Dance and Lena Headey perform this scene.

  • @beckylindley2263
    @beckylindley2263 Рік тому +129

    What an actress! ❤

    • @ghaddon1701
      @ghaddon1701 8 місяців тому +7

      What an actor Charles Dance is also👍

  • @cennon
    @cennon 4 місяці тому +9

    Twiyn knew. He was just in denial. He's way to smart not to know.

  • @drewpowers7236
    @drewpowers7236 2 місяці тому +8

    That "yes you do " was a straight blade across the throat

  • @moouasti130
    @moouasti130 8 місяців тому +16

    Her smile she can’t even hide anymore and rushes to her father’s head instead… She enjoyed every single minute of this come back at her dad…

  • @AznJsn82091
    @AznJsn82091 Рік тому +61

    Emotional damage!

  • @AZZnJAZ
    @AZZnJAZ 8 місяців тому +17

    the ONLY time THE Tywin Lannister was actually lost for words. Brilliant.

  • @ollythedementour481
    @ollythedementour481 Рік тому +42

    Oh, deep down, he knew it was true. He was just denying it with every fiber of his existence.

    • @supercake2270
      @supercake2270 Рік тому

      Wtf is true? 😅

    • @tjhall9377
      @tjhall9377 2 місяці тому

      If you lie to yourself enough about anything for long enough, you start to believe it.

  • @NikkiRen
    @NikkiRen Рік тому +52

    Cersei was a Beast and I hated that I loved her so much. Lena played the hell out her, I could watch that woman talk all day. 🌹

  • @REAPER3fitty
    @REAPER3fitty 5 місяців тому +46

    That Reins of Castamere crescendo was fucking perfect

  • @kabos.ybeeee
    @kabos.ybeeee Рік тому +8

    her face when she hurts her father omg it’s priceless
    so much joy

  • @andrewvalenzuela4863
    @andrewvalenzuela4863 10 місяців тому +13

    I like to think that as much as it hurt Tywin being completely bested by Cersei, his facial expressions had just a hint of proudness, a softness for her ruthless cunning. She knew her leverage and gut him with it where he stood.
    "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing."

  • @liamroberts2576
    @liamroberts2576 Рік тому +17

    I love this scene the only time any of his children hold power over him.

    • @3rdStageTruth
      @3rdStageTruth 4 місяці тому +1

      Well there was the poopoo scene very shortly after. Tyrion held a bit of power over him there.

  • @anthonylagano2371
    @anthonylagano2371 Рік тому +44

    Such a great scene. The way she says yes you do and walks away gave me chills . Excellent acting 😎😎😎

  • @some_metalhead
    @some_metalhead 4 місяці тому +24

    Two of the best actors the series had. All of the Lannisters were electric on screen.

  • @evanbuchanan1006
    @evanbuchanan1006 5 місяців тому +8

    Tywin’s face was shaking before Cersei admitted it. Didn’t blink not once. He had to had said to himself in that moment: “… oh shit”

  • @yinyang9041
    @yinyang9041 Місяць тому +7

    The only time Cersei could torment her father. She used the power of thruth, and make him realized he failed as father.

  • @izuela7677
    @izuela7677 Рік тому +11

    This was their last conversation before he died.

  • @nate8604
    @nate8604 11 місяців тому +17

    What’s never talked about, is the lack of accountability from elders who were terrible parents, and then they wonder why their kids, and their grandkids, are a mess. Tywin is a prime example of that.

    • @ericlayton8888
      @ericlayton8888 8 місяців тому +3

      Something I noticed with how Cersei talks about Tyrion having “murdered” her mother is that she seems to have picked that idea up from Tywin. If she didn’t inherit her father’s hatred for Tyrion and let him figure out that it was Olenna then Tyrion never would’ve been pushed to kill Tywin himself. And if Tyrion hadn’t killed Daddy Lannister, there’s no way Ellaria would’ve killed Myrcella. AND if Tyrion had been allowed to figure out the Tyrells were behind Joffrey’s death, Cersei wouldn’t have been pushed to reform the Faith Militant to undermine them and Tommen would be alive too

    • @bellamijaymes2153
      @bellamijaymes2153 6 місяців тому +1

      True

    • @Papaty25
      @Papaty25 Місяць тому +1

      Tywin has always taught his kids about family legacy. What more do you want him to do? It's not his fault his kids were fcukin. Jaime and Cersei are just immoral.

  • @atharvaveda87
    @atharvaveda87 Рік тому +15

    What a great role this actress played

  • @free0utcast
    @free0utcast Рік тому +110

    he definelty new it, it’s tywin lannister ffs he just found it hard to accept the truth, just like any grandfather

  • @sergiosaavedravallejo1007
    @sergiosaavedravallejo1007 4 місяці тому +2

    On that moment, the mighty Tywin Lannister felt the real pain.

  • @Malikin
    @Malikin Рік тому +61

    charles dance and cersei were the only people to make this scene the way it was supposed to be like

    • @Dime_time333
      @Dime_time333 Рік тому +19

      Couldnt think of the actresses name huh? Lena Heady. Google exists.

    • @shimzini
      @shimzini Рік тому +1

      @@Dime_time333 LMAO

    • @anweshchatterjee7595
      @anweshchatterjee7595 11 місяців тому +2

      Yes that's because they were the only people actually in this scene

  • @fonzie886
    @fonzie886 Рік тому +134

    Or, she lied to him too much, that even telling him the truth for once was received as a lie.

  • @temitopeogunade6301
    @temitopeogunade6301 Місяць тому +9

    He knew just didn't want to admit it happened

  • @xXImikoXx
    @xXImikoXx 4 місяці тому +2

    Not a scene that was in the books, but definitely one of the better additions to the show that I enjoyed.

  • @scottfitzpatrick1939
    @scottfitzpatrick1939 Рік тому +8

    She plays bitter indifferent to the T. Cold as ice.

  • @comfortncube510
    @comfortncube510 Рік тому +10

    Tywin as any father would.. found it difficult to believe.

  • @UnwantedStudios3
    @UnwantedStudios3 Місяць тому +3

    i love that "Yes you do"

  • @sarahmyers9775
    @sarahmyers9775 Рік тому +48

    I thought for sure he would slap her the first time I watched this scene

    • @SuperBrianMak
      @SuperBrianMak Рік тому +5

      Me, too!

    • @tessdurberville711
      @tessdurberville711 Рік тому +7

      Sarah Myers
      I cannot imagine that he had ever touched her, affectionately or in anger.

  • @ravarga4631
    @ravarga4631 Рік тому +10

    He could not believe she would admit it to him but we are often blind to flaws of close family

  • @180190ful
    @180190ful 11 місяців тому +6

    If u think about it, Cersei is the most like her father.. ruthless, vicious and commanding when they put their foot down.. Jaime probably like his mother and Tyrion the perfect mix of his mother n father thereby becoming more successful

  • @ralphgibson8343
    @ralphgibson8343 2 місяці тому +2

    She is an amazing actor!!!

  • @emperorreign6154
    @emperorreign6154 6 місяців тому +3

    He knew all along, he’d known for years even before the rumours started gathering momentum, he just denied it to himself.

  • @dawidwojacki5049
    @dawidwojacki5049 11 місяців тому +10

    That's very very artistic way of saying "Dad I had a sexual relationship with my twin brother for the past 30 years resulting in 3 children"

  • @PsychoWarper
    @PsychoWarper 8 місяців тому +2

    Tywin is to smart to have never figured it out on his own, he just ignored it because he didnt want to accept it. He had likely known for years but simply could never face that truth.

  • @michealfeeback7842
    @michealfeeback7842 5 місяців тому +4

    The only time I ever saw Tywin on the defensive.

  • @TerryRosariojr
    @TerryRosariojr 5 місяців тому +2

    The dramatic music in this scene really helped drive the daĝger in Tywins heart.
    From the very first scene with jamie and cersei ,we have been waiting for this moment.
    And they executed the scene flawlessly. It brought me to my knees.

  • @feliciaclark-um2yn
    @feliciaclark-um2yn Рік тому +10

    He knew it. Just like Tyrion knew it. When family sins the rest of the family plays dumb.

  • @HamakazeChannel
    @HamakazeChannel 4 місяці тому +1

    Tywin was by far the most relatable and in depth character in the series and the best

  • @danielaortizcastillo9160
    @danielaortizcastillo9160 Місяць тому +6

    Lol hardcore denial

  • @haileyhowson8350
    @haileyhowson8350 Рік тому +22

    i mean tywin’s wife was his cousin and didn’t he only marry her because she was as close to his sister as he could get 💀

    • @mikespearwood3914
      @mikespearwood3914 Рік тому +10

      Cousin marriages are surprisingly common in history though.

    • @mangekyo9216
      @mangekyo9216 11 місяців тому +3

      they wouldnt b considered incest because just like real life nobles, most houses mated with their cousins. Not but so many kings and queens to go around

  • @ebonyeyes821
    @ebonyeyes821 11 місяців тому +7

    Cersei was a cold hearted mess❤❤

  • @MrPenfold4
    @MrPenfold4 Рік тому +27

    The beginning of the end for tywin.

  • @rickbruner5525
    @rickbruner5525 8 місяців тому +2

    She was so good in this.

  • @doupnetwork
    @doupnetwork Рік тому +4

    He did what he needed to do for the legacy even tho everyone else wasn't. If Tyrion wasn't a little man he would have been the favorite because he was willing to do what was necessary to play the game

  • @amujs
    @amujs 8 місяців тому +4

    she traumatised her father 😂

  • @yeraldyramos5248
    @yeraldyramos5248 6 місяців тому +2

    He was shooketh

  • @CitizenCop-sp5cv
    @CitizenCop-sp5cv 2 місяці тому +1

    This was the only time he showed fear in his eyes

  • @huntwatson3783
    @huntwatson3783 12 днів тому

    God she deserved an Emmy for this alone. The way she doesn’t smile but shows you her teeth

  • @AegonFett
    @AegonFett Рік тому +14

    He knew, and accepted it in his own way. Tywin is not stupid, but I think what he really didn't want is to be slapped with the truth in his face by hearing it from his own daughter.

  • @codysellers4151
    @codysellers4151 2 місяці тому +2

    Tywin always knew. He just denied it.
    Anyone who spent a significant amount of time with the two and actually paid attention would know, and while Tywin was by no means a good father, he was still a perceptive man. Trust me, he has known for a VERY long time.

  • @pogodziej
    @pogodziej Рік тому +2

    That psychotic look when she says "Lie"

  • @RayOrly-fs3gr
    @RayOrly-fs3gr 4 місяці тому

    I have said it before and I may say it again. The actor who plays Tywin is such a beast, basically no words and he conveys so very much with his expression... No shouting, jumping or other crap, such a pleasure to see such acting.

  • @danishamelendez9444
    @danishamelendez9444 Рік тому +3

    I also feel like Robert definitely knew about them the whole time. Maybe even before Jon Arryn found out

  • @mojganmgahi
    @mojganmgahi 6 місяців тому +2

    I loved this man

  • @Cawhi
    @Cawhi Рік тому +5

    “🤨 yes you do”

  • @deadmanthehekatonkheire994
    @deadmanthehekatonkheire994 11 місяців тому +4

    The lies we tell ourselves to keep going.

  • @rodgill9376
    @rodgill9376 10 місяців тому +1

    Tywin knows the truth. He just didn’t want to fully face it due to denial.

  • @hoodoo2001
    @hoodoo2001 11 місяців тому +2

    Well written scene where Tywin wants to say the last word but is too tied up in emotions regarding Jaime and Cersie he has always suppressed to utter a last word.

  • @noobieboobie7142
    @noobieboobie7142 Рік тому +7

    You believe what you want to. this is a good example of that

  • @NinisVIP
    @NinisVIP Рік тому +5

    And so she spoke...

  • @09stoneheart
    @09stoneheart Місяць тому +2

    Tywin's denial is related to his pride in wanting Jamie, the son he raised himself, to be his heir. He hated Tyrion for being his only option after Jamie joined the Kings Guard and put all his efforts into reserving that circumstance. Meanwhile, he shut out Jamie and Cersei's obvious relationship.

  • @rice950
    @rice950 Місяць тому +13

    Tywin be like I wish I had a sister

  • @frankiejerardenno2678
    @frankiejerardenno2678 8 місяців тому +3

    I love game of thrones ❤ALL SEASONS 2🤣

  • @playinsincepong1
    @playinsincepong1 Рік тому +4

    Damn Lena is one gorgeous woman.

  • @TheLocochico
    @TheLocochico 11 місяців тому +2

    His acting is marveleous

  • @GretaThanos
    @GretaThanos 2 місяці тому +2

    Denial is the strongest emotion.

  • @marythecontrarian
    @marythecontrarian Рік тому +24

    I really do not like him but who would want to believe his daughter and his son were doing that? There’s really not much he could do to stop it besides physically removing them from each other, they were determined. So he chooses to look away.
    Just too bad he chose those two over Tyrion. Tyrion was bad too but he deserved good attention more than Jaime and most certainly Cersei did.

    • @sparingpickle4918
      @sparingpickle4918 Рік тому

      Because tyrion is not his kid but the mad kings son when he raped Tywins wife.

    • @doncorleone9297
      @doncorleone9297 Рік тому +5

      ​@@sparingpickle4918 when did that happen? Is it actually conveyed in the books?

    • @sparingpickle4918
      @sparingpickle4918 Рік тому +2

      @@doncorleone9297 hinted at several times and explains the hate for tyrion. Also explains why tyrion dreams of dragons which only Targaryen’s do. UA-cam it. There’s lots of videos on it b

    • @felixsylvester4266
      @felixsylvester4266 Рік тому +7

      ​​@@doncorleone9297t's not. The "hints" are that Aerys was attracted to Joana Lannister, took "liberties" during the bedding ceremony and bemoaned that the right of the first night wasn't a thing anymore.
      "Liberties" probably just means that Aerys got a little too handsy. Had he actually raped Joana, it would have meant war. It also would have meant that Tywin wouldn't have sat out Roberts Rebellion but joined him from the start due to his own desire for revenge - he did love Joana dearly as far as we know.
      And Tyrion having dragon dreams doesn't prove anything. Dragons are cool and Tyrion, who read a ton about History and Targaryen Rulers as a young boy became fascinated by them. The fact that he now dreams about them when those mythological creatures have been literally reborn into the world just means that he still is fascinated by them. He also wants to become advisor to "the mother of dragons", so it's very reasonable that the topic of dragons occupies his mind.
      The biggest counter to the Tyrion Targaryen theory is, that it would undermine the tragedy of the Tyrion/Tywin relationship. Tywin doesn't even acknowledge Tyrion as his son, even tho he takes after his father far more than Jaime and Cersei. Everything Tywin despises about Tyrion is a reaction to his horrible parenting and crippling insecurity about being taken seriously. Tywin is essentially responsible for his own death because he never saw his son for who he truly is, his neglect and malice which was born out of nothing but Pride slowly turned Tyrion into the monster everyone always treated him as.
      All of that would be undermined if Tywin really wasn't his father.
      “You.. you are no.. no son of mine.”
      “Now that’s where you’re wrong, Father. Why, I believe I’m you writ small.”
      That quote (just after Tyrion shot Tywin with the crossbow) basically says it all.

    • @hayabusahime
      @hayabusahime Рік тому +1

      ​@@doncorleone9297 no its just a theory.

  • @musicjunkie274
    @musicjunkie274 Рік тому +8

    The two best characters in the series. Fight me

  • @qmulus1
    @qmulus1 8 місяців тому +1

    The one time in their entire relationship that she had the upper hand.

  • @Nerfherder117
    @Nerfherder117 11 місяців тому +2

    As terrible of a father he is this would definitely sting. He thought his midget son (best one) was his only stain on his legacy when really it was his only noble one.

  • @trindog5843
    @trindog5843 11 місяців тому +1

    I mean one look at his grandkids should have given it away 😂

  • @ponglenis9273
    @ponglenis9273 4 місяці тому

    He knew. There is no way a man this smart doesn’t know.

  • @Stephanpar23
    @Stephanpar23 4 місяці тому

    Tywin's greatest strength was his greatest weakness. So proud and haughty the lion that he never saw the hyenas within his own pride.
    For all he did to uplift his family, he ultimately destroyed it.

  • @showmestate1842
    @showmestate1842 2 місяці тому +3

    Ive never watched the show. Only clips on yt.

  • @Jay-mx6bg
    @Jay-mx6bg 6 місяців тому +1

    He knew he just kept denying it in his head

  • @darkseeker9548
    @darkseeker9548 Рік тому +3

    Just imagine finding out that your kids are doing each other, and then imagine finding out that your children are having children together

  • @SandrovskY
    @SandrovskY 9 місяців тому +1

    Tywin knew it. But he didnt want to accept it

  • @DX2069
    @DX2069 Рік тому +3

    She was so savage for this. Idc if it’s unpopular to think this but Cersei is the best character in game of thrones and I miss her

  • @lennycrew3
    @lennycrew3 11 місяців тому +2

    "I don't believe you" why would she lie to you about something like that? Besides all the blatant facts, a daughter would never lie about that to her father lol