Paradigm XR13 Subwoofer Review - Perfect Bass, Perfect Size?
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- The Paradigm XR13 subwoofer is an absolute beast in its size class. The XR13 features a 13” (330 mm) Ultra-high Excursion Driver with Trilinear Suspension System and Active Ridge Technology (ART™), sealed enclosure with Cascade-FusionTM Bracing and ADVANCED Shock-Mount™, built-in 2,200W RMS (4,400W Dynamic Peak) Class-D amplifier, App-controlled via smartphone and Anthem Room Correction (ARC®) Included. @therealshanelee tests this Paradigm subwoofer out in his listening space and discusses how it measured and performed. Could this be the closest competition to the Perlisten R210s? Watch the video to find out!
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10 years. 10 years people. Can we talk about the evolution of subs and LFE in just a decade?! I don't think that there has been an exponential progression of equipment and tech this fast ever, if not maybe the introduction of Dolby and 5.1 early on in the induction of home theater. It's really amazing honestly. The subwoofer market has become a nuclear arms race and there are so many absolute top tier players now it boggles the mind.
Ok let's go way back 25 years from now from when I've been hacked but it's been since the 70's i believe & I quote when the SUN that got designed is when codes and practiceing policys & law which is illegal u can't practice a law? U machine doesn't learn it's programmed to do what it's designed to now with technology on the raise & people our thought differen from what it post to do instead u only get told what the programer said therefore it can't think? I think there's a lot misleading the ones trying to fix it & ones trying to make us think otherwise the block chain actually is linking it instead of blocking in other words strings! Who made the first A.I then tell Eric Schmidt stop bs or tell me what amount of 50% he wants from me then I'll reply!
Ya the Home theater market started looking at what they where doing in Car Audio.
Nice observation. Subs have gotten much better and cheaper...well, most of them and the ones still expensive are fantastic.
And the XR13 is less than half the price of Paradigm's Signature Sub 2 which couples its output stage directly to the 240V mains for insane bass all while ALMOST causing your martini sitting on the enclosure to ripple.
Even on sale (which they currently are 15% off), the XR13's are solidly out of my price range. I had to settle for two Defiance X12's (the 15's were just too massive).
I chuckled when he mentioned DIY to get that kind of bass. Sure, find a sub driver equivalent to that monster, try to build a box for it that looks as nice as the XR13. Buy an amp to power it. Find an extra DSP laying around to further match it to the enclosure and program it to prevent the sub from grenading itself during peak excursion. Oh, forgot the room correction! Yeah, DIY, sure.
$5000 for one subwoofer?!? That's insanely expensive!
Thanks for the video. To answer your question my favorite small subwoofers are my pair of SVS SB1000 Pros. Dig down to 20 Hz in my listening room with 12 drivers in a 13 inch box. The open box price for both at $900 US sealed the deal.
My Velodyne DD12 has died and if they can't repair it I'm getting the PB1000 pro. Nowhere close to the DD12 but I can't be spending much more
Hi there buddy. What do you think about my stereo hi-fi system for music only?
KEF LS60 Wireless (active speakers)
PARADIGM XR13
JL AUDIO Fathom F113v2
Audioquest NIAGARA 7000
ISOTEK EVO3 Syncro
Audioquest HUSKY RCA subwoofer cable (2x)
I’ve had 2 for almost a year now. I used to have huge HT subs but I’ve learned better bass is better than bigger bass. These things are a joy to listen to and are so tight and articulate. No more big boxes for me. Also…best looking subs period.
I'm the same way. I have 2 15" Rythmik's. I know there are many subs out there now adays especially, that have higher output, but the fidelity of the bass that they produce is absolutely seductive. They are absolutely no slouch in output either, but unless you prioritize music, there are many other great subs out there for HT, I am just a heavy user of both and wont accept anything but high SQ as a number 1 priority.
Greg do you prefer the xr13 over the Rythmik g25hp you had before?
I do in my current setup because of size and build quality. The G25HP is a better sub output wise and probably a bit tighter. It digs deeper and has a lot more punch than the XR13s. I do love both. No real winner here. I'd be content with either.@@perryler
Did you say $5,000. … EACH? WTF!
I'm still rocking the old paradigm sub1 which is still getting software support to this day.
Yeah there's better subs available now, but oh boy they are hella expensive.
Love Paradigms older subs. Recently got my hands on a near perfect Servo 15V2 and just can't get enough of it. Hunting for a second now, but they don't come up often. For real small box subs, I think the PW 2100 V2 might be my favorite. Dial it in right and it's a little jack hammer and digs pretty deep for their price.
Where is the Audioholics bass rating? You need to add various music groups like small jazz groups to symphony orchestra. A more picture needs to be made- not just movie soundtracks.
I am curious about Monitor Audio Anthra subwoofers, please review. Thanks in advance.
Quite a bit of money for a 13 inch but I heard it a sound store but I think it wasn't set up properly or turned up much wasn't impressed for 5000 u.s. that's alot of money for a sub
Thanks Shane / Audioholics. Diggin the intro change.
My happy with my old school Sunfire True Subwoofer Mark IV.
Great review but I would save some coin and consider options from HSU, SVS, and Monoprice. I have been using a Monoprice M15 for years now and it has preformed great. In my opinion no need to spend so much coin.
The ribbed rubber surround will improve WAF for sure
Insert Wayne’s World joke here…
Hey guys! how would you rate this sub against Adrenal 2s?
Wow, these things are really impressive and look to be direct competitors to the Perlisten R210S and the JL Audio F113. Great review Shane! I wonder how these bad boys would have done on Interstellar, Dune, and Blade Runner 2049? It's obviously somewhat of a niche product since most consumers aren't going to fork out $5K (or $10K) for subs. The thing with 3-5K subs though is that they not only have really good output, but they also typically produce textured and tactile bass so well. Hopefully some day Shane will be able to review some JL Audio subs, but I seriously doubt JL will send out review models.
How is this sub compared to the Signature Sub1?
great review! how would compare this to the ML BakancedForce 212? which would you prefer?
Very cool, but i would probably go with a JTR RS2 for that price. Everyone talks about "faster" or "tighter" bass and in the recent Audioholics showdown the JTR had exactly that, really tight controlled bass with amazing output. They tested the RS1 which was well above the pack in every way. Cant even imagine how much better the RS2 would be.
The JTR RS2 is a much bigger sub and different buyer than the Paradigm.
I had RS1's and RS2's before the XR13. The JTR's definitely had much higher output but the sound quality is easily the XR13. It is much tighter and faster and punchier. I grew tired of the sloppy sound.
@@MusclesAVSRS1 and RS2 aren't sloppy by any means.
@@tomastoth3839 They are when you compare them to a sub like a Rythmik or XR13. No question.
@@Audioholics True in terms of aesthetics definitely can understand a different audience in that.
OK, I gotta ask this question to Shane if he does check these comments. At 12:28 when you said "vibrate the crap outta my ass", was that literal or figurative? So, like, were you saying it like "that sub shook the crap outta my room" and you just happened to say "ass"? Or, did you literally mean, "vibrate the crap outta my ass." I don't know why I gotta know the answer to this, but I'm just super curious. I've never heard anyone say that literally before but I kinda think it should catch on. "Dude....this sub........is crap outta my ass good." Ton of possibilities. Anyway, solid video, cool sub. Let me know. Thanks.
you really need at least 60fps when filming subwoofer drivers moving. please get on that asap :)
edge of tomorrow intro bass goes down to 10hz, i can not reach that with authority, my subs rolls of after 12hz, but the 15hz was loud and shaky :)
but i only have a pair of 10", i am sure you can eq Paradigm XR13 to do 10hz unless there is a high pass filter on them, got enough watts to do it for sure. i only have 100 watts on mine but can get max excursion on my sealed box with no issue.
Just put that film on and it really has like 3 sinewaves for few sec at like 20, 15 ,10 hz my captivator 2400 hit so hard even tho my overall volume wasnt near the theatre level that I panickly looked for remote to turn it down before my windows give up from that 10hz wave 😅🤣
I have a pair of SVS SB-16 Ultra subs.
How about showing subwoofer's Bluetooth for car?🤔
This is very interesting?
Hi Shane, great video! Would you prefer these over the Perlisten R210s? Thanks in advance.
A friend of mine bought a Paradigm Reference Seismic 10 new. The foam surrounds on all 3 drivers rotted/cracked. He called Paradigm, and they refused to simply sell him the replacement foam surrounds so they could be replaced. They wanted him to send them the whole subwoofer and they would replace them .... For $540. Plus, he would have to pay the shipping to them, and back. Paradigm, you are pathetic.
Paradigm on three occations really came through for me! I've been graced with my Paradigms for 20 years. I'd do it all over again. Paradigm's are solid as they come!!!
@@Albert-ed3hg How did Paradigm on 3 occasions come through for you?
@@Albert-ed3hgI've also had a very good experience with Paradigm customer service (only one occasion).
6k$ hahaha
It looks like a great product but I think I will keep building my subs! I am very value oriented :-)
Enough displacement and enough power and you can make the sub as small as you want. I love that evolution for proliferation of actual deep bass into more homes.
Yes and no.
The smaller a sealed enclosure the higher distortion due to assymetry in air-pressure.
The distortion is related to the SPL inside of the enclosure. I don't remember the numbers but for small enclosures with large displacement drivers the added distortion due to this is significant.
It's just a fact based in physics.
Impressive deep bass extension for a 13" sealed sub. Brute HP driven and amazingly capable driver. Not cheap but very high quality rarely is. Thanks for the review!
AKA Sal1950
XR13 vs F113v2? Which would you go with?
If you don't have space for 2 subs, I'd go for the JL audio F212v2. Otherwise I'd go for a pair of XR13s.
Compare these to the paradigm sub 2
Holy s**t!!! $5,000 for a sub-woofer. Are you nuts!!!!!
I hope one day you’ll get a chance to review a 15” sealed Rythmik. I’m so curious to hear your no BS style review on one. I know you reviewed an 18”, but I’d imagine a 15” would be different.
Review the amps used in those subs then come back
@@Masterslessons Why, are they bad?
@@MasterslessonsNowadays they are Hypex based. Among the best out there.
@@Masterslessons the ignorance is rife with this comment🤣
Thanks for sharing Shane
Great review man. Are they expensive? Yeah but a sealed sub this size giving that much extension and output is always going to be expensive. Thats seriously impressive performance for a sub that size
How do they compare to your G25s?
@@deankim6687 I have 2 Rythmik FV18'S and 2 RBH 1212's. The G25 will outperform these but they are also a lot bigger with 2 15 inch drivers. For the size these are impressive
Those surround sound speaker mounts, are sold separately?
I’m curious to how these compare to the JTR RS1. Obviously, the paradigms look better. But as far as Home Theater deep impact, how do they compare?
JTR's dig deeper, XR13's have better sound and are tighter. I've owned both.
Awful optical choice with the ribbed surround. This always screams car audio to me.
I think they look brutal. But it's my opinion you know 😊
Functional
Still rocking a paradigm studio sub15 with two sb4000. Great sub.
Excellent video, very informative . Like many home theater aficionados out there ( me being one of them ) I do enjoy both, movies and music.........I was waiting for some music !!...come on !!
My favorite, small Subwoofer is the Sunfire true sub. It’s a beast.
Body spanking tactility. LOL! Think Paradigm will use that quote in the marketing.
You'll change your mind about your favourite small sub once you'll get your hands on JL AUDIO F113v2 sub. Trust me. It's a whole different league.
I had 2 of those before my XR13s.....lol
@@MusclesAVS and you replaced them with these?
100% much better subs. Tighter, more output, better tech, better room correction, better looking...lol. Not even an option.@@tomastoth3839
Different league. Yeah, price wise.
@@boterhammetpindakaashagelslag u must be kiddin'. they are in the same price category.
Ultra Ribbed
For your pleasure
I would appreciate companies like Audioholics not to support companies like these, that produce gear for Bentley drivers.
Guess what!! Not a Bentley or a Ferrari driver. Can you tell me Audioholics, who in this real world buys a $5000 single subwoofer?
I’m sorry, if you cater to that crowd, I am out!!!!!
I guess $40.000 subs are stuck in storage, no one buys those? Please let the door smack you on the way out, careful those stairs...here's a banana peel:)
Lol...I mean who buys one of these!? I bought 2 :)
Hey buddy. Not everyone is spending heavy money on cars 'n' 304s. I personally invest my hard earned $$$ in my stereo system especially. So these reviews are specifically for me in particular.
The XR13's are not at the top of the Paradigm price structure either. So these reviews are relevant to a lot of people who have different values than you do.
Take the Persona 9H's for example. You can have them custom finished and the sub section is 240V powered all in the same enclosure for under $20K each. Contrast this with many, many flagship offerings from other companies costing tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands more.
You absolutely get what you pay for with Paradigm's.