The State and Revolution by Vladimir Lenin Audiobook | Audible Socialism [English] /u/dessalines_

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  • @sonofgarvey9466
    @sonofgarvey9466 3 роки тому +219

    My ppl in Ghana must familiarize themselves with this literature ! Africa will unit and it’s happening ✊🏾🔥

    • @vegvisirphotography5632
      @vegvisirphotography5632 3 роки тому +7

      @@henzminer9874 go to Africa, lots of Chinese people there. Paid up, party members. Which comrades side shall you take? Uh oh....holes appearing already.

    • @littlestone1541
      @littlestone1541 2 роки тому +19

      @@vegvisirphotography5632 And... You are from an African country?
      Familiar with the material condition of the African worker?
      Perhaps you think that Western capital extraction and labour exploitation in "exchange" for an IMF loan (along with all the neoliberal political conditions that are attached to such loans), which are then used to "repay" the "debt" that European imperialist nations demand from their victim nations throughout the African continent for their "crime" of having fought to liberate themselves from colonialism, are somehow preferable to what working with the People's Republic of China has to offer African nations and their peoples?

    • @vegvisirphotography5632
      @vegvisirphotography5632 2 роки тому

      @@littlestone1541 I'm African yes, and I have an absolutely massive pecker. It's 10 inches you know.
      You just described what China has done to my continent. Just replace "the west" with China and you've just offended your oriental daddy.
      Your Marxist cuckr.

    • @iamnotpablo
      @iamnotpablo 2 роки тому +2

      @@littlestone1541 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

    • @nikasamwkusvili9345
      @nikasamwkusvili9345 2 роки тому +4

      wait what hapend here what did he say lol pls somone explaine

  • @aworldtowin955
    @aworldtowin955 4 роки тому +848

    I swear there has been a rise in class consciousness during 2020

    • @Supernautiloid
      @Supernautiloid 4 роки тому +55

      ✊🏻

    • @elliecressy6033
      @elliecressy6033 4 роки тому +159

      also a rise in fascism too :(

    • @BleedingSnow
      @BleedingSnow 4 роки тому +12

      I think it's less a rise of class consciousness as those boarding the social & political trends are not aware of context and more the works of Subversion as explained by Yuri Bezmenov.

    • @BleedingSnow
      @BleedingSnow 4 роки тому +4

      @John Morran You presume I spoke all that from a COD trailer? No offence but that's moronic.... have you read or watched Yuri? I have, long before the COD trailer brought him into light considering I am from a post Soviet country myself. off those not bothered or interested in politics & history I lost family to such..... And it is not just Yuri, it is history that dates back to the early 1900's let alone Yuri, he simply explains it well and simple enough for all to understand.
      Communism, Marxist ideals are easy to influence in the mind of the general population which is why when spread it instantly creates strong bondship between people to form mass groups such as BLM, Antifa etc. etc. Churchil himself said "the Fascists of tomorrow will call themselves the anti-fascists" with Stalin solidifying the ideation with his explanation of leadership he shared with Lenin befoure announcing his future roles.
      You think it's ridiculous that people can be easily manipulated to such ideals when there are entire groups who base their whole arguments off memes and jokes? You think it's ridiculous that people can fall for teachings and leanings when they are given it to themselves as an excuse for the "wrong" they believe occurs to them? It is basic psychology that people fall into such traps such as blaming the rich for their own problems or cultivate a blame culture of sorts instead of facing their problems and researching the flaws of society & systems.
      But yes, to avoid an actual answer you can just claim this all comes from a COD trailer to avoid a meaningful response to my comment if you wish.

    • @BleedingSnow
      @BleedingSnow 4 роки тому +7

      @John Morran This idea that nationalism is fascism is a manipulation of meanings itself. The fact we have fallen so low to call nationalists fascists and respecting diversity racist is proof.

  • @PostYourJaggahog
    @PostYourJaggahog 4 роки тому +428

    Who here as the hypocrisies of capitalism are laid bare by the advent of a pandemic?

    • @thatyoutubechannel9953
      @thatyoutubechannel9953 4 роки тому +39

      Ayyy can't wait for the liberals to pretend this is all fine in five years gotta love brainwashing

    • @GuessTheFondMachine
      @GuessTheFondMachine 4 роки тому +5

      Ayy it me!

    • @alexanderson4497
      @alexanderson4497 4 роки тому +28

      The last few years have radicalized me, and I refused to fall to wayside to the courting of fascists against my better understanding. So I am here.

    • @giseleevans7266
      @giseleevans7266 4 роки тому +17

      This pandemic and the movement of bernie has truly radicalized me, and reading the manifesto has opened my eyes, as soon as I finish this book I intend to read more of marx and engels. And to read more by lenin. And read works of trotsky and mao, I'm excited to continue to learn more and more about communism, and to be as articulate as I can

    • @thatyoutubechannel9953
      @thatyoutubechannel9953 4 роки тому +4

      @@giseleevans7266 Don't forget to read things wildly and narrowly outside of the trend of your reading. Reading Marx, Lenin, Mao, check out something a bit more familiar but of a different position like God and the State by Bakunin. Then check out something like The SCUM Manifesto. It'll help loads in broadening your understanding, even if you don't agree with them.

  • @josephgarfield3363
    @josephgarfield3363 4 роки тому +448

    I fell asleep listening to this and I had a dream I started a communist revolution in World of Warcraft

    • @notevenironicallyfunny204
      @notevenironicallyfunny204 4 роки тому +24

      Joseph Garfield based

    • @Supernautiloid
      @Supernautiloid 4 роки тому +29

      World of Ourcraft

    • @jacobclark6002
      @jacobclark6002 4 роки тому +9

      Dude I literally fell asleep to this and was hearing parts of it in my dream. In my dream I started what was basically a communist colony of like 200 stranded folks.

    • @terriblehumanbeing8117
      @terriblehumanbeing8117 4 роки тому +19

      Don't let your dreams be dreams

    • @Joker-om7ff
      @Joker-om7ff 4 роки тому

      Aww that’s kinda cute.

  • @HeartandSoundTN
    @HeartandSoundTN 7 років тому +298

    This is so important. I checked out the Marxist reader from my local library, but I t's hard for me to find time to read between school and work, homework, spending time with family, etc. I drive half an hour round trip to school, and about half an hour round trip to work. I can listen to this during my commute and learn to be a more articulate leftist!

    • @leningradcowboy2953
      @leningradcowboy2953 7 років тому +27

      Why are reactionaries in our theory

    • @frankpeter6851
      @frankpeter6851 6 років тому +3

      jordan...
      youre beatiful

    • @frankpeter6851
      @frankpeter6851 6 років тому +2

      Definitely a George Soros funded bot
      youre beautiful too, george,
      but jacob is quite a bit more beautiful.

    • @dogeyes7261
      @dogeyes7261 5 років тому +1

    • @stan5250
      @stan5250 4 роки тому +3

      If it is of any help 2 years after your comment, take a look at professor' Harvey close reading of Capital, really helps to get it davidharvey.org/reading-capital/

  • @jacobfike3697
    @jacobfike3697 Рік тому +11

    Take a drink every time Lenin says "philistine", two drinks when he says "philistinism". If he drags someone you've never heard of, finish your drink and get a new one.
    In all seriousness, great stuff. Very informative and really helps give a clearer picture of the goals and processes of ML workers in regards to the state.

  • @MercuryFlying
    @MercuryFlying 3 роки тому +87

    This year really got me radicalized enough to listen to theory

    • @westking7746
      @westking7746 3 роки тому +12

      I understand completely. I too, after 65 years of hoping some form of capitalism will actually work, have decided that Marxism is a viable alternative for like minded persons. The problem is to group any number of those like minded individuals anywhere on the map and expect them to be sacrificial in order to make Marxist Government work as Marx and Engels actually intended. To bad that I didn't realize the truth 50 years ago

  • @MoonatikYT
    @MoonatikYT 4 роки тому +116

    He laughed at the "(don't laugh!)" part. He had one job. One fucking job.

    • @boosted211
      @boosted211 3 роки тому +11

      Fucking leftist are useless!

    • @boosted211
      @boosted211 3 роки тому +3

      @@meowwwww6350 that's why I'm a leftist 😭

    • @boosted211
      @boosted211 3 роки тому +2

      @@meowwwww6350 you're so mean 😭

    • @meowwwww6350
      @meowwwww6350 3 роки тому

      @@boosted211 iam sorry

    • @meowwwww6350
      @meowwwww6350 3 роки тому +2

      @@boosted211 iam really sorry my friend forgive me for that

  • @asdqwe8837
    @asdqwe8837 3 роки тому +57

    Very good initiative. Reading books are great if you have the time to sit down with one. But now you can radicalize yourself at the office, at the factory, in your car to and from work! Thank you!

    • @alexmorrison3442
      @alexmorrison3442 3 роки тому +3

      Literally listened to this in about to shifts at work.

  • @martygolnick9741
    @martygolnick9741 5 років тому +79

    The middle class, a creation of itself being petty bourgeoisie had kept capitalism chugging along. Yet today we have middle class devoid of middle class earnings, as these folks become aware of their real proletarian position the required ingredients for a real movement come to the surface. So long as they are hi jacketed by the fascist right...

    • @DiscipleOfHeavyMeta1
      @DiscipleOfHeavyMeta1 4 роки тому +19

      These people will become fascists. Nine times out of ten, middle-class people stripped of their middle-class earnings become reactionary. They develop an even more fervent hatred for the working class than the international bourgeoisie they claim to despise so much. That's how the bourgeoisie channels that scapegoating and hatred against the proletariat to establish fascism.

    • @alexiscarriere7418
      @alexiscarriere7418 4 роки тому +3

      @@DiscipleOfHeavyMeta1 actually, my parents are at the entrance of the middle class but when i was a kid we were poor. And i think a revolution is needed and the only way to go forward

    • @Jordan-mn2ty
      @Jordan-mn2ty 3 роки тому +2

      @@DiscipleOfHeavyMeta1 the conception of the proletariat shouldn’t be a universal concrete class distinction void of tradition or religion. In capitalism all parts of life are commodified, even the church, which leads to secularism. Revolution does not come from spreading theory to the masses or reminding poor people that they are poor. Revolution manifests itself in a determination (material and non material) that usually reflects aspects of traditional culture in a society. When conservatives and liberals can see that this “Cultural Marxism” being espoused in all of our media, academic, and corporations is not a warm up for a communist revolution or that our society is progressing toward social equality. It’s quite the opposite, it’s an instrumentation of capitalist exploitation by the neo liberal bourgeois. Emasculated homosexuals with no family have no dependencies therefore they are happy with a easy low paying service based job and they can have a weak divided society of low payed consumers that embrace their degeneracy and exploitation by the ruling class as a freedom or a false sense of empowerment. It is the commodification of culture in the era of globalization. When conservatives and liberals can see this artificial division through the lens of capitalist exploitation then you can see unification and the two sides will overcome their petty assigned dogmas and deal with the real problem in an objective, focused, and determined manner.

    • @ForeverSharkman643
      @ForeverSharkman643 3 роки тому

      @@alexiscarriere7418
      M

    • @MrDXRamirez
      @MrDXRamirez 3 роки тому

      @@Jordan-mn2ty This which you write is a piece of false thinking in my view that does not lead to any revolutionizing practice but to defeat of mind and body.
      The conservative and liberal system of philosophy and politics is based on the preservation and expansion of capitalism, it is their function to not overcome the 'artificial division' of what capital exploits! The State (Washington D.C.) is unified with the particular interest of individuals. It is not unified with the universal interest of mankind or of our own society. More and more of our national political institutions in Washington D.C. cannot or no longer effect social change is less a breakdown of the institutions themselves, a melt down, to the contrary, they have become organs of the policy to have no policy at all among functionaries working in the State. Individual economic interest transcends the political interest of the government in the presence of no accountability of its participants and constituents is our situation. Who is responsible for the use of drones killing children when they are technologically programmed? To effect political change is made impossible and superfluous, making it urgent the change be a call for a universal emancipation from the State, effectively reunite the universal with the particular state by means of a conscious social revolution. How do you subjugate the Military Industrial Complex and the Pentagon to the People without a social revolution, you can't. This aim presents an empirical and historic paradox!
      US working class is the most powerful in the world but not the most educated or capable of wrestling the Pentagon and the MIC from the ruling political establishment elites in Washington, New York and Boston. Handicapped by race, gender, class divisions, it would have to take the form of mass social encampments that move from open forums for debate to an occupation of organized task forces transforming the run down environment of city neighborhoods into lush green parks and food production while its political wing struggle to unseat the liberals and conservative from political power.

  • @Ih8G00gle
    @Ih8G00gle 2 роки тому +25

    2022 now, and Im refreshing my memory of how ahead of it’s time this book remains.
    This year continues to prove him right.

    • @TheRangerFox
      @TheRangerFox 2 роки тому +6

      It's insane how relevant this remains, and how so few people will ever take the time nowadays to read/listen and recognize it

    • @establishmentdisliker372
      @establishmentdisliker372 2 роки тому +4

      @@TheRangerFox more and more people are waking up to it, we must continue to educate one another

  • @kindadumbkindastrong4429
    @kindadumbkindastrong4429 3 роки тому +19

    Who else feels more secure in their understanding of the world after listening to this

  • @therogerseses
    @therogerseses 3 роки тому +23

    Without a revolutionary party, you are lost.

  • @MoonatikYT
    @MoonatikYT 3 роки тому +78

    "I have a button that says 'end the state', and I wont press it. Stay mad, anarkkkiddies."
    -Lenin, probably. idk i havent listened to the whole thing

    • @shadylittlefox
      @shadylittlefox 3 роки тому +2

      He really hates anarchists lol. I'm left here thinking, "What anarchists is he talking about?" Probably missing some context here but at least in contemporary anarchist philosophy it doesn't work like Lenin claims here.

    • @Cd5ssmffan
      @Cd5ssmffan 3 роки тому +5

      @@shadylittlefox YWNBAW

    • @shadylittlefox
      @shadylittlefox 3 роки тому +2

      @@Cd5ssmffan Transphobia? On a Lenin Audiobook comment section? *Gasp*

    • @Cd5ssmffan
      @Cd5ssmffan 3 роки тому +5

      @@shadylittlefox get in the camp it is work time little uyghur

    • @shadylittlefox
      @shadylittlefox 3 роки тому

      @@Cd5ssmffan lol

  • @Stalin99
    @Stalin99 4 роки тому +49

    Lenin was a good guy, I miss him

    • @Mjauarin
      @Mjauarin 3 роки тому +8

      You were not supposed to be the one to lead the ussr

    • @Stalin99
      @Stalin99 3 роки тому +5

      @@Mjauarin yeah I was, Lenin’s testament or whatever that heap of garbage is called was widely regarded as a fake in the USSR, if everyone in the country thinks it’s a fake document it’s best not to believe it

    • @monika.alt197
      @monika.alt197 2 роки тому +13

      While I respect you, I still do prefer Lenin.

    • @darthjarjarbinkstherealsit6832
      @darthjarjarbinkstherealsit6832 2 роки тому +11

      And you are a good guy, I miss you.

    • @electricdazz
      @electricdazz 2 роки тому

      @@Mjauarin Please understand that the Communist Party of the Soviet Union operated under democratic centralism and Stalin was voted to be the leader.

  • @comradeconrad3636
    @comradeconrad3636 3 роки тому +8

    Thank you man. Your smooth and calming voice makes it easy to hear every single word with out struggle. Perfect speed. It feels like a one on one convo or my inner dialog more then a lecture.

  • @thenomad4606
    @thenomad4606 4 роки тому +81

    Happy birthday to Vladimir Lenin at age 150!
    Love from the CPUSA!

    • @robertwilliams2720
      @robertwilliams2720 3 роки тому +3

      Woot woot just joined the cpusa was green for a long time! Hi comrade!!!

    • @billystizzler764
      @billystizzler764 3 роки тому +11

      Isnt cpusa like all FBI agents at this point

    • @MatauReviews
      @MatauReviews 3 роки тому +6

      @@billystizzler764 yeah they're full of feds avoid at all costs

    • @moe3213
      @moe3213 3 роки тому

      @@billystizzler764 CPUSA needs to purge

    • @anasain6590
      @anasain6590 2 роки тому

      @@billystizzler764 Yeah, I made a meme once that had the CPUSA logo and it said "oops! All feds!"

  • @usaintltrade
    @usaintltrade 4 роки тому +16

    KNOWLEDGE IS POWER

    • @robertwilliams2720
      @robertwilliams2720 3 роки тому

      We need world civics in schools, that would help!

    • @KozelPraiseGOELRO
      @KozelPraiseGOELRO 6 місяців тому

      ​@@robertwilliams2720We need an entire new school system to begin with.

  • @ericktellez7632
    @ericktellez7632 2 роки тому +8

    He was ahead of his time.

  • @kaljic1
    @kaljic1 5 років тому +48

    This is so important to understand the modern application of Marxism. Probably more important to anything Marx or Engels wrote.

    • @Stellar_Politics
      @Stellar_Politics 5 років тому +14

      I wouldn't say the book State and Revolution is any more or less important than the manifesto, both are great learning sources to understanding socialism and communism. The Manifesto is important to awaken class consciousness, while State and Revolution is an important guide to forming a revolution with the awakened class to form a socialist state.

    • @Bloopsan
      @Bloopsan 4 роки тому +13

      @Jay Blake I agree with you, but Das Kapital is really intimidating to newcommers so most of us never read it... It took me 3 years to finaly pick it up (I was not disapointed)

    • @5PctJuice
      @5PctJuice 4 роки тому +3

      @@Bloopsan 100% agreed. Das Kapital is incredibly intimidating to newcomers to Marxist theory. Modern authors are a better window into how the theory is applied in today's world with today's capitalist class. Marx, Engels, and Lenin are great foundations, but capital has evolved into something none of them would recognize (though they'd all likely expect it to come to this place). Wolff and Zizek are better introductions, IMO.
      Lenin did have a way of making Marxism easy to digest for passive listeners.

    • @kurtisisagaylord2
      @kurtisisagaylord2 4 роки тому +7

      @@5PctJuice lol get out of here with that; Wolff and Zizek are both revisionists who don't understand Marx.
      nothing has fundamentally changed about the capitalist mode of production, and if you had *actually read Capital* you would know that.
      regarding the book, it is true, it can be intimidating at first, but as Marx says in the preface to Capital Vol. 1:
      "There is no royal road to science, and only those who do not dread the fatiguing climb of its steep paths have a chance of gaining its luminous summits.”
      if you truly want to understand communism, and are truly interested in human emancipation, then reading a book is the absolute bare minimum one can ask for.
      the book was written for the Proletarian's of Marx's time anyways; no prior knowledge is required to understand it, just patience and a critical mind that is willing to engage with the text and the world honestly.

    • @justamoteofdust
      @justamoteofdust 4 роки тому

      @@kurtisisagaylord2 do you have anything that helps in understanding the book along with the reading? If you have, please let me know! The language is pretty simple but it still seems like it's been written in a convoluted manner for a layman who doesn't know shit about basic economics.

  • @glamosky
    @glamosky 4 роки тому +26

    i stumbled on this in hornpub...

  • @aimusicn.korean5263
    @aimusicn.korean5263 3 роки тому +12

    Thank you for great contents. I’ll study communism and English with them.

  • @Ih8G00gle
    @Ih8G00gle 3 роки тому +13

    At the beginning of 2020 I was a DemSoc.
    It’s 2021 and now I’m here.

    • @lamikiminach9503
      @lamikiminach9503 3 роки тому +8

      Bruhhhhh same covid radicalized so many of us.

    • @moe3213
      @moe3213 3 роки тому +1

      same here

    • @KozelPraiseGOELRO
      @KozelPraiseGOELRO 6 місяців тому

      ​@@lamikiminach9503Natural. Crisis expose the ugly part of capitalism (more than usual), enough to radicalize some or many.

  • @Secret_Lizard
    @Secret_Lizard 7 років тому +36

    instant like

  • @thatyoutubechannel9953
    @thatyoutubechannel9953 4 роки тому +27

    ProletariAATTT

  • @TheDrunkernaut
    @TheDrunkernaut 6 років тому +37

    proletariAT

  • @kingmantheman
    @kingmantheman 3 роки тому +7

    Need more of this in my life

    • @kingmantheman
      @kingmantheman 3 роки тому +4

      You hearing me UA-cam??? Send me ALL the socialist content!!

  • @cedricsankara9809
    @cedricsankara9809 2 роки тому +6

    Bless you comrade!! Your doing the lords work

  • @panda69144ify
    @panda69144ify 2 роки тому +7

    Привет всем товарищам!✊

  • @PentaSquares
    @PentaSquares 4 роки тому +13

    2:40:20
    [Where I left off at]

  • @kvothekingkiller1754
    @kvothekingkiller1754 4 роки тому +9

    Where I left off
    1:05:17
    1:22:55
    2:53:26
    3:56:38

  • @praalgraf
    @praalgraf 3 роки тому +4

    the irony of an amazon audible ad on this

  • @littlestone1541
    @littlestone1541 3 роки тому +4

    This is wonderful. And such a lot of work, thank-you comrade!

  • @grizzlycharizard0017
    @grizzlycharizard0017 Рік тому

    Amazing Audiobook and his words are still relevant today.

  • @Flac_the_Wave
    @Flac_the_Wave 4 роки тому +13

    Happy 150th birthday, Lenin!

  • @JuanMercado91
    @JuanMercado91 Рік тому +1

    Lenin's keen understanding of how the state works probably served him well in consolidating and maintaining power after the revolution. Gonna go read Conquest of bread after this.

  • @neilabhraroy2695
    @neilabhraroy2695 4 роки тому +10

    Long Live Revolution

  • @XwaYdesu
    @XwaYdesu 4 роки тому +5

    Hi! Greatful for this video. Is there any chance of updating this, so there's a little note up top keeping track of the page and chapter we're on?

  • @authorauthority7193
    @authorauthority7193 6 років тому +11

    Dear comrade dessalines, you should learn more about dessalines, he was in no way a friend of the slaves or hypothetically to today's workers. From very early on in his life he was hired by slave owners and the government so much so that he was known to them as the "butcher of the blacks".
    Throughout the course of the Haitian revolution he quite opportunistically sought his own interests and stayed out of leadership positions. The only real reason that he gained power is that any leader of standing had already died.
    Once he had lead the Haitian people to victory he led a genocide against the 3000 french people that remained on the island killing every man woman and child. While for sheer brutality it would be horrible enough but it's worth remembering that in the many years of civil war all the wealthy whites had already left leaving only those who had agreed with the revolution, had interracial marriages, or were too poor to leave.
    Another policy of his was to keep slavery even including the chains. The difference from Toussaint was that instead of white masters the masters were black. For nearly a hundred years afterwards slavery was kept though after dessalines died it was considerably lessened in daily brutality to be something more like serfdom.
    So that I'm not accused of being one sided it is true that he did lend guns and soldiers twice to Simon Bolivar. Simon lost the guns the first time. He did make Simon promise to free slaves which is a promise that Simon kept to the extent of his ability thought unfortunately none of the wealthy of South America or southern North America really went along with him on this.
    Thank you very much for this great reading of Lenin, comrade.

  • @mcdonaldpuddin
    @mcdonaldpuddin 7 років тому +39

    Please consider uploading Maos little red book

  • @lunalynn8137
    @lunalynn8137 4 роки тому +27

    Your voice is nice and soothing and all, and your occasional snarkiness is fitting, but it's just not the voice I imagine Lenin talking in. XD

    • @cooperm4185
      @cooperm4185 3 роки тому +7

      Fun fact: Lenin was taught English by an Irishman and spoke the language with an Irish accent

    • @jackwellington8275
      @jackwellington8275 3 роки тому

      I like state and rev in the robot voice

    • @Rolando_Cueva
      @Rolando_Cueva 3 роки тому +2

      @@cooperm4185 source?

    • @jamesflannery1007
      @jamesflannery1007 7 місяців тому

      How good is your Russian or German .

  • @MercuryFlying
    @MercuryFlying 3 роки тому +7

    Not a Leninist but his writings are useful for all far left ideologies

  • @2015Drama
    @2015Drama Рік тому

    Revisiting this banger for the third time. Lenin was so brilliant!

  • @justsomeguy8849
    @justsomeguy8849 6 років тому +10

    You should upload more of the short writings

  • @gryffin638
    @gryffin638 5 років тому +12

    Regarding a “variety of forms of the dictatorship of the proletariat”, what do you think about, in our modern context, a system of direct democracy (or demarchy) where councils that over see state departments are selected by random sortition (never establishing a distinct political role in society) and fulfilling state functions by employing public servants as laborers, rather than as wielders of power. Legislation would be screened by these Common Councils and then voted on directly through simple secure SMS message systems (Handivote). How does this stack up against council democracy, à la Commune or USSR?

    • @davidhoran7116
      @davidhoran7116 5 років тому +4

      read some Bakunin (if you havent already) and also look into things along the DeLeonist/IWW lines of organization. The CNT/FAI had a similar set up, and it kinda explains what you describe.

    • @DiscipleOfHeavyMeta1
      @DiscipleOfHeavyMeta1 4 роки тому +6

      With our current levels of information technology, and considering we would be transitioning to socialism from liberal capitalism instead of medieval semi-feudalism, this isn't out of the question. At least, not entirely. It all depends on the conditions that allow the proletariat to seize power from the bourgeoisie. It could be progressively implemented if the proletariat seizes control of the current bourgeois institutions or if the dictatorship of the proletariat develops in parallel to the old system as an alternative with dual power being established as the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie decays and fails.

    • @Noname72105
      @Noname72105 4 роки тому +2

      Electronic voting is incredibly insecure. It's a fine idea conceptually but unless you can absolutely guarantee that every person gets exactly one vote, you can't make this a usable system.

    • @gryffin638
      @gryffin638 4 роки тому +3

      Tom Brownlee Yeah, I’ve come to the same conclusion as you now. Paper ballots and public counting are dirt simple but very necessary. In that vein, it’s probably better that the Common Councils have legislative authority themselves, except for a few big votes (i.e. Taxation and social spending put through a function to match spending to taxation, whether or not to go to war, constitutional amendments, etc.) or for small scale local approval (i.e. local approval to build new public housing/infrastructure, or a vote on which style of housing to build).

    • @DiscipleOfHeavyMeta1
      @DiscipleOfHeavyMeta1 4 роки тому +3

      @@Noname72105 Advances in computer and cybernetic technology will inevitably lead to this outcome. If said advances are allowed to continue.

  • @frankpeter6851
    @frankpeter6851 6 років тому +10

    reading along
    awesome!

  • @Francieli128
    @Francieli128 3 роки тому +1

    I looooooovethis channel, now I can study politic and English

  • @thatoneradicalizedprussian225
    @thatoneradicalizedprussian225 3 роки тому +3

    43:30
    Don't mind me
    Pay attention to the audio comrade

  • @vivekbarnvasynanndi3439
    @vivekbarnvasynanndi3439 3 роки тому +1

    yah tenk u for da fweeeeee upwoad kumrad :333

  • @Max-nc4zn
    @Max-nc4zn 6 років тому +18

    Abolish the political class!

    • @KozelPraiseGOELRO
      @KozelPraiseGOELRO 6 місяців тому

      Wot? There is no 'political' class, as much as there is no 'cultural' class or 'economic' class. You cannot abolish something that doesn't exist.

  • @kaelynkelly-colon7355
    @kaelynkelly-colon7355 7 років тому +12

    thanks!

  • @persona7506
    @persona7506 3 роки тому +2

    Banger

  • @catsaresocute650
    @catsaresocute650 2 роки тому +1

    ^hmm but rlly the efforts to abolish the burrocracy did not seem to work out in praxis

  • @dn8601
    @dn8601 4 роки тому +7

    Leaving this for myself 20:30

  • @jonathanchavez2723
    @jonathanchavez2723 5 років тому +3

    Which version is this? The copy I have has a lot different wording in it

    • @giseleevans7266
      @giseleevans7266 4 роки тому +2

      It explains all this in the preface of the first and second edition

  • @raymondfranklin724
    @raymondfranklin724 7 років тому +5

    Thank Koba!

  • @goosenik2219
    @goosenik2219 3 роки тому +3

    Was listening to this on my bike today got hit by an suv at exactly the 10 minute mark literally 1984 flew off hit my head broke 2 fingers and my right leg got banged up

    • @mikeyschilling8834
      @mikeyschilling8834 2 роки тому +1

      Damn. Are you alright? Did you finish the audiobook?

    • @goosenik2219
      @goosenik2219 2 роки тому +3

      @@mikeyschilling8834 I never ended up coming back to it but I’ll listen to it today because of your comment thanks for the reminder. I’m all good now, had a concussion though

    • @mikeyschilling8834
      @mikeyschilling8834 2 роки тому +1

      @@goosenik2219 concussions are scary and broken fingers really suck too. This audiobook takes up most of my work day so I'm on about my 10th listen. Could have been written today really. Glad you're alright, comrade.

    • @jamesflannery1007
      @jamesflannery1007 7 місяців тому +1

      fucking suv

  • @benjimartinez3464
    @benjimartinez3464 3 роки тому +1

    Noname brought me here 🙌🏾

  • @l1teralcanc3r78
    @l1teralcanc3r78 5 років тому +7

    2:57:10

  • @d20Fitness
    @d20Fitness 4 роки тому +1

    What edition and translation is this reading coming from?

  • @Kristopher2022
    @Kristopher2022 6 років тому +9

    40:50

  • @MaadBrax
    @MaadBrax 3 роки тому +2

    I wish this had captions

    • @monika.alt197
      @monika.alt197 2 роки тому +2

      It does, it’s called a book.

    • @MaadBrax
      @MaadBrax 2 роки тому +1

      @@monika.alt197 why are u mad for no reason

    • @monika.alt197
      @monika.alt197 2 роки тому

      @@MaadBrax I'm not mad, just saying that this is an audio version of a book. You can read the book

  • @xDemonTech
    @xDemonTech 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for this

  • @Manuel-kx4qt
    @Manuel-kx4qt 3 роки тому +2

    I listen to this when i go to sleep

  • @pleasestandup6503
    @pleasestandup6503 4 роки тому +5

    Пролетарий всех стран, соединяйтесь!

  • @kenspiracy2792
    @kenspiracy2792 3 роки тому

    It's like a Always Sunny in Philadelphia title card gag setup; and the title card says "There's Something Weird About Beria's Garden"

  • @sometimessamantha7135
    @sometimessamantha7135 3 роки тому +3

    for literal communist theory, im supprised that this only has 78 dislikes

    • @mikeyschilling8834
      @mikeyschilling8834 2 роки тому +8

      Not one of those dislikes listened to the entire thing.

    • @KozelPraiseGOELRO
      @KozelPraiseGOELRO 6 місяців тому

      It is just that many anti-coms just don't get this deep (and it is very little deep yet).

  • @datguyoverdere6616
    @datguyoverdere6616 3 роки тому +2

    omg this guy has water dripping from his mouth all day

    • @buttmunch1457
      @buttmunch1457 3 роки тому +1

      I thought I was the only one. The mouth noises in this recording are so bad

    • @adevoidvessel
      @adevoidvessel 3 роки тому

      Then you must do better

  • @dumbidiot7911
    @dumbidiot7911 3 роки тому +2

    Left off 29:22

  • @Liam-uh3pr
    @Liam-uh3pr 3 роки тому +1

    Don’t mind me just leaving a time stamp for myself
    2:08:00

  • @Virsho
    @Virsho 2 роки тому

    is this full? and where can I read full online

    • @KozelPraiseGOELRO
      @KozelPraiseGOELRO 6 місяців тому

      Lenin Archive. A section on the Marxist Archive. Just search it as such.

  • @melloroom7510
    @melloroom7510 4 роки тому +3

    Could this guy just.....take a sip of water

  • @socialismandrevolution8299
    @socialismandrevolution8299 5 років тому +1

    08:45
    01:31:23
    04:27:04

  • @samaelx3411
    @samaelx3411 3 роки тому +1

    The issue I find so far in Lenin's teachings is this; any position within a communist society, be it a worker in a factory, a peasant on the fields, so on and so forth be paid a "workman's wage". By this, I took it as "being paid the same". If this is the case, why pay them at all? The only conceivable answer I can think of, is that payment in form of paper and coin, or "Labor notes" is that you can save such currency to buy more expensive goods or services.
    Why not simply issue labor cards to those productive members of society which allows them to take what they need from a store or shop, for free, because they in turn produce something themselves at their employment.
    In short, if you work, you get a special ID card and thus you're allowed to shop in stores for food and whatever other goods you may want or need for free.

  • @1SheepishWolf
    @1SheepishWolf 3 роки тому

    Thank you for this!

  • @popisfornoobs
    @popisfornoobs 7 років тому +6

    AWSOME

  • @jackwellington8275
    @jackwellington8275 3 роки тому +1

    are my comments being deleted by youtube?

  • @jagdevbhardwaj
    @jagdevbhardwaj 4 роки тому

    Also need English captions

  • @minisculesum005
    @minisculesum005 4 роки тому

    timestamp for myself: 1:09:35
    1:48:00

  • @jacksont113
    @jacksont113 3 роки тому +3

    based

  • @soweli3033
    @soweli3033 2 роки тому +1

    Lenin such a gigachad

  • @thatyoutubechannel9953
    @thatyoutubechannel9953 4 роки тому +1

    It's the job of social democrats to bring the proletariat as far as they can within the political system, it's the job of socialists to bring us further

    • @elliecressy6033
      @elliecressy6033 4 роки тому +9

      social democrate are revisionists

    • @thatyoutubechannel9953
      @thatyoutubechannel9953 4 роки тому +2

      @@elliecressy6033 Yes. This changes nothing about what I said.

    • @Stalin99
      @Stalin99 4 роки тому +2

      sam cressy fuck revisionist, everyone in the party I'm in hate revisionist

    • @KozelPraiseGOELRO
      @KozelPraiseGOELRO 6 місяців тому

      ​@@thatyoutubechannel9953No and yes. No because the political or practical task of them is compromise, therefore they won't drive anything, and yes because they can be used for a little while, specially in strong capitalist countries such as USA, where the struggle has been lost in the shadows for decades.

  • @Jdwest81
    @Jdwest81 3 роки тому

    Bookmark 2:13:49

  • @rafeeqwarfield9690
    @rafeeqwarfield9690 2 роки тому

    8:50 chapter 1

  • @darthjarjarbinkstherealsit6832
    @darthjarjarbinkstherealsit6832 2 роки тому +1

    Red Salute

  • @comrade614
    @comrade614 4 роки тому

    52:30 my time stamp

  • @somerandomguy292
    @somerandomguy292 5 років тому +2

    52:16

  • @thatyoutubechannel9953
    @thatyoutubechannel9953 4 роки тому +1

    4:26:00

  • @darthjarjarbinkstherealsit6832
    @darthjarjarbinkstherealsit6832 2 роки тому

    5:05:05
    Such a chad ending.

  • @mauricioamezcua9081
    @mauricioamezcua9081 Рік тому

    El estado y la Revolución, un texto básico para la guerrilla

  • @muddyerbbine6254
    @muddyerbbine6254 4 роки тому

    18:27 saving my place

  • @atalkinglemon3679
    @atalkinglemon3679 4 роки тому +1

    Amnon where is u?

  • @jdog3923
    @jdog3923 2 роки тому +1

    18:00

  • @bw-xv2rz
    @bw-xv2rz 3 роки тому

    Oh Captain My Captain

  • @arampathkushan2861
    @arampathkushan2861 4 роки тому +2

    hmm interesting

  • @igorquerubin5846
    @igorquerubin5846 5 днів тому

    Viva Lênin!

  • @ImNKB
    @ImNKB 4 роки тому

    2:11:24 where I left off

  • @oisfororchid
    @oisfororchid 3 роки тому +1

    the proletariAT

  • @vincecable5167
    @vincecable5167 4 роки тому +2

    You don't need to be a Communist or even a Socialist to recognise the positives as well as the evils in Lenin's rule. Not least, his New Economic Policy established pragmatic market socialism which eventually succeeded in Deng's #China

    • @saschahoupt6177
      @saschahoupt6177 3 роки тому +5

      Will the Dengists in this comments section please leave us normal people alone

    • @jackwellington8275
      @jackwellington8275 3 роки тому +2

      there really wasnt another option at the time. The agriculture was not collectivized, the soviet union was not post scarcity. The bolshevik party and the industrial metropolitan working class did not have the power to change that in one stroke. When the big land lords in rural areas were overthrown by the peasantry the majority of the land expropriated from the landlords was individually expropriated. There were some cooperativesset up. The growing, but still, mostly small landlords began the exploitation of labor on their land, the accumulation of capital. These exploiting "peasents" were the kulaks. The petty bourgeoisie. They initially supported stalin. At that time Trotsky, as ellucidated in the "Transitional Program" in the chapter the Alliance of the Workers and Farmers, said: "The program for the nationalization of the land and collectivization of agriculture should be so drawn that from its very basis it should exclude the possibility of expropriation of small farmers and their compulsory collectivization. The farmer will remain owner of his plot of land as long as he himself believes it possible or necessary. In order to rehabilitate the program of socialism in the eyes of the farmer, it is necessary to expose mercilessly the Stalinist methods of collectivization, which are dictated not by the interests of the farmers or workers but by the interests of the bureaucracy." So their initial support of Stalin was contingent upon their land not becoming collectivized, these growing exploiter operation farmers. The country was in ruins after ww1, the civil war, the international bourgeois invasion. Their was not enough grain being produced in a non collectivized fashion to feed the cities. The expropriation of the kulaks was neccesary. The new economic policy was necessary in the face of there not being a collectivized economy built up yet.

    • @jackwellington8275
      @jackwellington8275 3 роки тому +1

      if the forced collectivization process had been started earlier, and directed only at the big kulaks, the N.E.P could have been prevented from being necessary.

    • @РустамГатауллин-к9к
      @РустамГатауллин-к9к 2 роки тому

      @@jackwellington8275 Большевики в отличии от Троцкого понимали больше в логике развития экономики.
      Если бы они последовали идеи Троцкого о насильственной коллективизации, то революция бы провалилась встретив активное сопротивление от трудового крестьянства.
      Преимущество коллективного хозяйства должно было показать себя в деле , а не проводиться насильственным принуждением. Учитывая то обстоятельство что крестьянство в России на тот момент составляло большинство населения.
      Доказательства того что Троцкий был контрреволюционером предостаточно именно его последователи произвели контрреволюцию уже в марте 1952 года.

    • @KozelPraiseGOELRO
      @KozelPraiseGOELRO 6 місяців тому

      NEP ≠ Dengism

  • @jakehuffcutt
    @jakehuffcutt 4 роки тому

    /u/dessalines_ how did you get banned from reddit lol