Hi there, ZAPATOS is in fact not spelled with an accent, my bad Misty Terrain also doesn't power up fairy moves, it just powers down dragon type ones, so that rant about Ortega was kinda unnecessary
If anything, Ortega is playing it smart by getting rid of terrain since it just prevents status on grounded Pokemon... the status it is already immune to.
I don’t know why Misty Terrain is like that, like it would make more sense like that. Maybe because it’s not called Fairy Terrain that’s why it’s not called that but that’s stupid. Now I would say it should but Tapu Fini and Fairies in general are kinda good.
Dusclops can't use Swallow. OK pokedex, your'e telling me that this pokemon is a walking black hole that can swallow anything whole and keeping it in, yet apparently it can't swallow its opponets?
Swallow would always fail if Dusclops learned it because it can't learn Stockpile. Plus the move isn't swallowing your opponent, it's swallowing the energy you build up from stockpiling
Misty Terrain weakens dragon moves against grounded targets (because fairy is totally not immune to dragon, amiright), doesn't boost fairy moves like other terrains do with their types.
And ironically enough, all but five pokemon that learn the Move Misty Terrain either aren't Fairy or become Fairy, that being Gallade, Volcanion, and the Quaxly line. Gallade gets it because Ralts and Kirlia can, Volcanion I think only gets it by TM because of it movie counterpart being a bodyguard to Magearna who is Fairy, and the Quaxly line gets it probably becaue of the fact Quaquaval's design makes it look a little fruity(not even being it as an insult, just find it funny they went for it)
what ppl very VERY commonly overlook is the fact that moves r named differently in different languages. sounds obvious yes but it makes things like growlithe not knowing growl make some sense. in japanese, growlithe is called gardie (taken from the words guardian or guard dog) and growl translates to cry. the move is described as being a growl BUT in a cute way. a pokemon like growlithe, based on its pokedex entries, is more likely to bark when it or those its loyal to r threatened and fight directly by biting instead of growling cutely to throw the opponent off. now im sure theres cases when taking the original names into account in which pokemon a should have move b bc of aspect c but just doesnt for who knows what reason, game freak is very good at making game design choices other game devs wouldve implemented years earlier. ppl just have to realize its not just the english names that exist. there r valid complaints here like wugtrio not being able to learn tri attack despite everything tracking in both english and japanese but a lot of these can b debunked by doing some quick searches on bulbapedia or looking just a little more closely at the dex entries ur citing
See, the problem is that when you’re localizing/translating games, this is the kind of thing I think you’d want to make an effort to avoid. If you wanna say Growlithe is more likely to bark than growl, that’s all well and good. I don’t agree with that 1000%, cuz plenty of Pokemon can learn Growl despite no direct references to growling in the Pokédex or anywhere else. But that’s besides the point. In that case, the responsibility falls on the localization team to make decisions that don’t clash with each other. By the time Red and Blue came out internationally, Red and Green had been out in Japan for a while, so there was already a general idea in place of what the original 151 Pokemon were all about. So the folks translating the game would probably know that there’s a fire dog Pokemon, that there’s a move that lowers attack by 1 stage, and that the Pokemon was incompatible with this move. So ideally they would give the dog Pokemon a name that isn’t derived from the name of a move it can’t learn. So during the development of gen 1, something was off, whether it was the folks originally designing the Pokemon and assigning moves, or the folks in charge of translating the game for international audiences. Some people call Growl’s English name a translation error, but I don’t think it’s as simple as that. The Japanese word they use for CRY can also translate to BARK, so if you ask me Growlithe should be able to learn Growl either way. The word in question refers to a whole host of animal noises. Barking, roaring, cawing, and so on and so on. A lot of people in this comments section (not you though) have just said “well growl’s name in Japanese is CRY” and not elaborated. Translation is a messy thing, but at the end of the day, a lot of the other dog based Pokemon can also learn Growl, so I think it makes more sense as a starting status move than Leer. If Pokemon could only learn moves that line up EXACTLY with their biology and dex entries and such, movesets would be so much more restrictive because there wouldn’t be a lot of options left. Whichever angle you look at Growl and Growlithe, it’s not a stretch to say that it’s a move it reasonably could have access to. Moves having different names in Japanese doesn’t mean it’s not valid to say stuff like Growlithe can’t learn Growl That whole ramble might have been entirely incomprehensible, but those are my thoughts on the whole thing
@@MEPlaysGamesif you want to take it a step further then every Pokemon should learn growl because every Pokemon has a cry. So I think we can determine that cry might mean something specific to the game designers
How can Stoutland not learn Body Slam, Stouland is like the most normal pokemon of all time, and Body Slam is just a bigger Tackle, plus its a big dog, a tackle from a big dog can hurt
Oh right I think I watched False Swipe Gaming’s Stoutland video and they pointed out that Stoutland lost Return and couldn’t use Body Slam as an alternative
I wanted to know this answer so badly in gen 5. I kept tackle over take down because recoil can be a bitch, only to find out i was stuck with that being my main stab move until i taught it return
Magnezone might have one head tecnically, but his one head is 3 heads fused together, and he still has 3 eyes, and presumedly 3 "brains", or whatever the hell magnemites have, so it still makes sense for it to use triattack imo
Well however many heads you wanna say Magnezone has, I would say Tri Attack is fair game, cuz I don't think anybody would disagree that Doduo has two heads
Technically magnezone still has 3 heads but one way bigger than the others and more fused than magneton so... yeah it can learn tri attack and makes sense.
11:05 Pterosaurs are not ancestors to birds in any what whatsoever, would be like saying that crocodiles are bird ancestors. They're arcosaurs, but they have no direct relationship. But yeah, should learn brave bird
Yeah my bad, I biffed that part of the research but my point still stands. It's close enough that I wouldn't bat an eye if Aerodactyl learned Brave Bird
To be fair Growl is just "cry" in Japanese and of course Growlithe also has a different name. In some cases it's important to remember the localization isn't always 1 to 1 for better or worse.
They should then keep that in mind when doing translations..naming it after a word, that it cannot do, is rather silly ain't it? And the translation people can see the moves it can get as they're already finalized by that point typically (and if they aren't why can't they just add growl or whatever?)
Sorry to be that guy, but as a huge dinosaur nerd, I can't let this slide Pterosaurs are not ancestors to birds the same way as dinosaurs are Dinosaurs are the ancestors to birds, but such close ancestors that birds are officially recognized as dinosaurs by the scientific community Pterosaurs are not though, because they aren't dinosaurs, the last common ancestors between the first dinosaur and the first pterosaur split off way too early for either to exist So think of pterosaurs as the great uncle of birds while dinosaurs are the great grandfather Also, Charizard, Magmar, and Ampharos can't learn Tail Glow despite having bright things on their tails
Yanmega can't learn Fly even though the Pokédex says it's "easily capable of transporting an adult in flight." Garchomp can't learn Fly either despite the Pokédex talking about it flying at high speeds. Bronzong can't learn Heal Bell despite literally being a bell. Also, Zangoose can't learn Cut, Black Kyurem can't learn Ice Punch, Garbodor can't learn Poison Jab, Gholdengo can't learn Surf, and Dialga can't learn Future Sight.
Pikachu will bite you if you grab their tail, but that doesn't mean that Pikachu's cute little mouth is powerful enough to actually deal damage in battle.
4:20 because you can only use it when terrain is active, the terrain is set up so you have access to a powerful move. If you don't wanna use your 130bp steel move, you can use the fairy moves you have. Hypothetically a viable competitive strategy.
@@kimotokirby1601 i mean in like certain showdown formats not tournaments or smth. if starmobile were allowed they'd definitely be viable. Steel roller is a pretty good move in monotype since a lot of teams set terrain.
Just finished this video from my recommended. Sounds like you guys had a lot of fun with this and some interesting stuff I didn't know about for sure. Wish you didn't make Flying pink because that was wigging me out lmao but I think you guys have a good vibe and the video is nicely put together! Best wishes!
i think espeon should be able to learn solar beam and agility. most psychic types can learn agility, even really slow ones, and espeon's its literally the sun pokemon so solar beam makes a lot of sense.
That's probably a localization issue like how Sucker Punch is actually just Surprise Attack in Japan which is why lots of pokemon without arms can use it so the Pounce thing is probably just that in reverse
0:41 i think the reason is what is causing it. The move rock smash is a physical fighting move meaning they are breaking it by brute force hitting it with there body, claucher breaks them by shooting them which would make it a special attack that breaks them.
The reason why charizard can learn shadow claw is that Charmander has shadow in its name, as it's supposed to be casting shadow on cave walls, but the whole thing got lost in translation. That's also probably why Growlith can't learn growl, both the move and the Pokémon got translated weirdly
If you want a proper reason why Revavroom can't learn U-turn, it's due to it being associated with dragonflies in it's Japanese name. If you want a funnier reason, it's because it would be a Hit and Run, and that sounds like an Illegal U-turn to me.
Tons of non-dragonfly pokemon learn u-turn...tons of non-bug pokemon learn it!! And pokemon clearly isn't against illegal moves as the dark type is FULL of cheap shots and illegal moves.
While it doesn't make sense that a doggo cannot learn something like a cry, the Growl-ithe thing is just a translation issue, just like how splash doesn't seem to make sense to not be water type even though its actual name is hop. Growlithe's name is Guardy, a guard dog, hence why it can learn to bark, while growl is (an animal's) cry (not like, bawl your eyes out). Again, still doesn't make sense that dog cannot just cry, but at least it's not as insulting and just the translation team making a doodoo.
Honestly that's one of my favorite parts of running a channel with my friends, so I'm glad people seem to enjoy how much nonsense I leave in the videos
@@MEPlaysGames I hope to be like you lot one day... though, my editing skills are very doo doo, heh. Plus my OBS just keeps messing with the audio, still trying to figure things out you know. Also, thanks for responding to my comment, I really appreciate it.
Think the best explanation for dragapult learning dragon claw and not shadow claw is that since there are/were so few dragon type moves they made sure at least one was a staple with every dragon type pokemon. Hell, even Altaria can be taught it and it doesnt have anything that even remotely resembles claws on its body. Not all ghost type pokemon can learn shadow claw and youd be surprised how few can. Its like the case with the gastly line in gen 2 not being able to learn the elemental punches until theyre a gengar, but in gen 7 they can ALL learn them
I feel like it's in a similar vein but Zacian didn't learn Play Rough by level up in Gen 8 , plenty of fairy types and even non fairy types learnt it by level up , but the legendary fairy dog that's all about attack had to resort to using a TR to learn it
Revavroom should be your poster child for this video. It just screams, "Why doesn't the literal car engine Pokémon get this move?", and not just for U-Turn. Flame Charge, Trailblaze, and Rapid Spin all come to mind, but I personally believe it is the most uniquely qualified non-Rock-Type Pokémon that should learn Accelerock. Revavroom is an engine fused to, and powering, a rock slab like a car; if anything should learn Accelerock, it's Revavroom.
Rapidash can learn Jump Kick, but not Blaze Kick, despite having feet that are on fire. However Genesect, which is 4x weak to the move, *can* learn it.
Drain Punch is not as widely distributed as it should be. Infernape has only just got access to the move in Gen 9. Pawmot can learn all of the Elemental Punches, Mach Punch and has the Hidden Ability Iron Fist, but still can't learn Drain Punch.
Typhlosion, the Volcano pokemon, doesn't learn Earth Power, a move that mentions eruptions in it's description, yet so many pokemon you wouldn't think can learn Earth Power can
Your first argument makes no sense. The reason why Clauncher doesn’t learn Rock Smash is because Rock Smash is a physical fighting move. Clauncher’s Pokédex specifies that it LAUNCHES our jet propulsions (in other words, Special Attack). Therefore, it makes sense that Clauncher can’t learn Rock Smash, since Rock Smash is physical, yet the strength Clauncher uses is Special.
Everytime i see one of these videos no one EVER brings up the low list of pokemon that learn crabhammer and the potential blessing of slapping it on pokemon who have pincers. Scizor along with the paras line would LOVE the fire coverage,and then other contenders could be the dwebble and gligar lines who dont need it as much but would definitely be a pretty neat tech option.
You forgot Nosepass. Nosepass was not able to learn Head Smash. Head Smash was a rock type move and Nosepass was a giant rock head. It was able to learn it as an egg move in gen 4 but no compatible Pokémon learned it to pass it down. Finally gen 9 has brought it back as an egg move.
Ampharos, the light pokemon, said to use the LIGHT from its TAIL as a beacon, can't learn the move TAIL GLOW. I mean, I get that its the signature move of Volbeat but with the signature moves of certain pokemon being given to others, i think its time for Ampharos to finallg learn it. It would also make it so much better as a tanky special attacker.
It actually might be a good thing that dragapult can't learn shadow claw because giving it any physical ghost move better than phantom force would get it banned from OU immediately
Kingambit is one of the most sworded Pokemon I've ever seen. Even its valiant mustache is made of sword. Yet Kingambit cannot learn Sacred Sword. You know... the dedicated sword attack.
Ampharos can't learn Tail Glow despite the fact that it has a bulb on the end of its TAIL that can GLOW! Its used as the source of light for a freaking lighthouse! It should be able to learn Tail Glow! For feck sake GameFreak! Also please bring back Signal Beam, my boy Ampharos deserves that too.
In gen 4 games I was literally so confused when I found the duskull line could learn dream eater and nightmare yet the only way to put stuff to sleep was with secret power in a grassy terrain. Like you’re telling me it can learn will-o-wisp to burn and toxic to poison when not hypnosis to literally put it to sleep??? And it somehow also has rest, sleep talk, and snore??? I really think they just saw the word dream and nightmare in a rush and thought it would work with rest or something???
Dialga is the God of Time, who can't learn Future Sight. Palkia is the God of Space, who can't learn Teleport. Giratina is the God of Antimatter, who can't learn Explosion.
They omitted Poltergeist on Dragapult maybe to prevent It being OP, the same with Aegislash, also they omitted Moonblast on Togekiss, Dragon Dance on Garchomp. However now they gave Heavy Slam to Metagross they should give as well Poltergeist to Dragapult. And not giving it Shadow Claw is totally ridiculous.
This is like those videos from AuraGuardian I used to watch all those years ago, but actually feel fresh and new (unlike what CacophonousCorphish is doing - stopped watching after their first video). Good job!
4:40 Misty terrain does not boost Fairy-type moves, which is weird in its own. The only thing Misty terrain helps the starmobile is protecting it from status effects at this point.
6:53 This happened due to balance reasons -after releasing several strong behemoths ever created- I assume. Spamming Ghost moves with 142 Spe is not really that metagame healthy -yet they still gave us Spectrier and Shadow Calyrex, then Flutter mane- as Ghost types don't have a lot of resistances.
When I learned that Annihilape can't learn Shadow Punch, I yelled, "THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!" and I got some funny looks. But just WHY?!! A Fighting Ghost Type that can't learn Shadow Punch, I just don't get it, if anything, Shadow Punch should be Annihilape's signature move!
This one is actually really interesting, if the explanation I recall is correct; Cut is based on Iaijustsu-style "Drawing cut" techniques, the type you'd see for a delayed cut from a samurai in some anime, that kind of thing (This is why Farfetch'd can learn it, as the leek it carries is meant to be like its katana) Zangoose, however, has been noted for always keeping on alert and never withdrawing its claws, so it never sheathes its weapons, and can therefore never perform something like the drawing motion required for Cut
@@alexryu2632 Kartana can learn cut yet I don't see it sheathing it's arms or anything. And Farfetchd doesn't sheath it's leak either, when using cut it just slashes the thing around somehow cutting with it's leak (don't ask me how that makes logical sense..idk how a thick leak cuts anything). And the rest of the pokemon that learn cut don't make sense with your explaination..Would a nidoking do a "drawing motion" with it's claws? Why not zangoose then? Or dragonite? Sandslash can learn cut but is the same situation as zangoose. Pokemon with pincers can even learn cut!
The Japanese name of the move means CRY as in just a general animal noise, the same way the sounds Pokemon make when they enter the battle are called cries. So my point stands
All I’m saying is that the Japanese name doesn’t change my point that Growlithe should be able to learn it. The Japanese name for the move is often used to refer to barking, which Growlithe does a lot of according to the Pokédex. Just because the name doesn’t mean the exact same thing in Japanese doesn’t mean the move doesn’t make sense. There's nothing about Growl that suggests that Growlithe shouldn't be able to learn it. Plus there are moves that nearly every Pokemon can learn. Captivate and Confide are universal TMs in certain generations, and they lower stats in the same way
Somthing that affected me today was that galarian farfetch'd & Sirfetch'd can't learn false swipe but normal farfetch'd can. Heck even binacle can learn false swipe. So dumb
Misty Terrain doesn't actually boost the power of Fairy-type moves. It just cuts the power of Dragon-type moves, plus blocking status and a bunch of other bullshit.
For Clauncher and Clawiter being able to shatter Rocks and not being able to learn Rock Smash, the same applies for it not being able to learn Cut then. Growlithe is the localization name, not its Japanese name. You really shouldn't look at the localized names for this. Not only that, but Roost makes it so Noctowl isn't Flying type anymore, so its not weak to Electric and turns pure Normal. Ambipom can't learn Breaking Swipe either, despite it being a Tail Slap Move (Like, why can Tyrantrum learn it, but not Aurorus). Aggron can't learn it either, which is odd due to its massive tail. Aggron has massive horns as well, despite that its unable to learn Megahorn, Horn Drill and Drill Run.
For Growlithe it still makes sense. The team in charge of translations shouldn't of named Growlithe GROWL-ithe when it cannot learn growl..they could of easily named it literally anything else. Why name a pokemon after an action the pokemon is incaple of doing? Besides it's a dog, dogs can growl, it should of been able to learn growl like most other puppy pokemon.
Volbeat and Illumise had Signal Beam as a signature move when they were introduced in Gen3. Then it got distributed to other pokemon. Then for some reason they removed the attack from Gen9, lame, but at least Volbeat and Illumise weren't there either. Then they brought back those pokemon with the DLC, but not Signal Beam. So not only did their signature attack stop being their signature attack, but then it got removed entirely and they didn't even bother to bring the move back when the pokemon came back. At least Tail Glow came back. But Ampharos still can't learn it. Yes, its called Firefly Glow in Japan, but Manaphy and Xyrcitree can learn it and it those sure ain't fireflys, so let Ampharos have it already.
The fact that you guys said Zamazenta is one of the weakest legendaries of all time nowadays when he is in fact the complete opposite and even made it to top 8 in Worlds is WILD to me
Im playing heartgold rn and its pissing me off so bad that my Heracross cannot learn U-Turn or Drain Punch. I was hyped to get the #1 prize tm drain punch from the lottery and cant even use it except Alakazam which, why would I do that...
Hi there, ZAPATOS is in fact not spelled with an accent, my bad
Misty Terrain also doesn't power up fairy moves, it just powers down dragon type ones, so that rant about Ortega was kinda unnecessary
If anything, Ortega is playing it smart by getting rid of terrain since it just prevents status on grounded Pokemon... the status it is already immune to.
I don’t know why Misty Terrain is like that, like it would make more sense like that. Maybe because it’s not called Fairy Terrain that’s why it’s not called that but that’s stupid. Now I would say it should but Tapu Fini and Fairies in general are kinda good.
I was gonna comment abt that... Bruh
Dusclops can't use Swallow. OK pokedex, your'e telling me that this pokemon is a walking black hole that can swallow anything whole and keeping it in, yet apparently it can't swallow its opponets?
Swallow would always fail if Dusclops learned it because it can't learn Stockpile. Plus the move isn't swallowing your opponent, it's swallowing the energy you build up from stockpiling
Misty Terrain weakens dragon moves against grounded targets (because fairy is totally not immune to dragon, amiright), doesn't boost fairy moves like other terrains do with their types.
whoooooooooops
It also stops you from getting statused. Unless you're flying type ofc
And ironically enough, all but five pokemon that learn the Move Misty Terrain either aren't Fairy or become Fairy, that being Gallade, Volcanion, and the Quaxly line. Gallade gets it because Ralts and Kirlia can, Volcanion I think only gets it by TM because of it movie counterpart being a bodyguard to Magearna who is Fairy, and the Quaxly line gets it probably becaue of the fact Quaquaval's design makes it look a little fruity(not even being it as an insult, just find it funny they went for it)
@@caiusdrakegaming8087 maybe it gets Misty terrain because mist is a form of water vapor (I think) and it's signature move is steam eruption
The only moves to be boosted are Terrain Pulse and Misty Explosion and both are kinda ass 💀
Ambipom can learn tail slap in ultra sun and moon by breeding which got aipom banned in little cup
whoops
In any case it lost access to the move since then, which is pretty silly
what ppl very VERY commonly overlook is the fact that moves r named differently in different languages. sounds obvious yes but it makes things like growlithe not knowing growl make some sense. in japanese, growlithe is called gardie (taken from the words guardian or guard dog) and growl translates to cry. the move is described as being a growl BUT in a cute way. a pokemon like growlithe, based on its pokedex entries, is more likely to bark when it or those its loyal to r threatened and fight directly by biting instead of growling cutely to throw the opponent off. now im sure theres cases when taking the original names into account in which pokemon a should have move b bc of aspect c but just doesnt for who knows what reason, game freak is very good at making game design choices other game devs wouldve implemented years earlier. ppl just have to realize its not just the english names that exist. there r valid complaints here like wugtrio not being able to learn tri attack despite everything tracking in both english and japanese but a lot of these can b debunked by doing some quick searches on bulbapedia or looking just a little more closely at the dex entries ur citing
See, the problem is that when you’re localizing/translating games, this is the kind of thing I think you’d want to make an effort to avoid. If you wanna say Growlithe is more likely to bark than growl, that’s all well and good. I don’t agree with that 1000%, cuz plenty of Pokemon can learn Growl despite no direct references to growling in the Pokédex or anywhere else. But that’s besides the point. In that case, the responsibility falls on the localization team to make decisions that don’t clash with each other. By the time Red and Blue came out internationally, Red and Green had been out in Japan for a while, so there was already a general idea in place of what the original 151 Pokemon were all about. So the folks translating the game would probably know that there’s a fire dog Pokemon, that there’s a move that lowers attack by 1 stage, and that the Pokemon was incompatible with this move. So ideally they would give the dog Pokemon a name that isn’t derived from the name of a move it can’t learn. So during the development of gen 1, something was off, whether it was the folks originally designing the Pokemon and assigning moves, or the folks in charge of translating the game for international audiences. Some people call Growl’s English name a translation error, but I don’t think it’s as simple as that.
The Japanese word they use for CRY can also translate to BARK, so if you ask me Growlithe should be able to learn Growl either way. The word in question refers to a whole host of animal noises. Barking, roaring, cawing, and so on and so on. A lot of people in this comments section (not you though) have just said “well growl’s name in Japanese is CRY” and not elaborated. Translation is a messy thing, but at the end of the day, a lot of the other dog based Pokemon can also learn Growl, so I think it makes more sense as a starting status move than Leer. If Pokemon could only learn moves that line up EXACTLY with their biology and dex entries and such, movesets would be so much more restrictive because there wouldn’t be a lot of options left. Whichever angle you look at Growl and Growlithe, it’s not a stretch to say that it’s a move it reasonably could have access to. Moves having different names in Japanese doesn’t mean it’s not valid to say stuff like Growlithe can’t learn Growl
That whole ramble might have been entirely incomprehensible, but those are my thoughts on the whole thing
Woah you put A LOT OF EFFORT for answering jst a single comment good job@@MEPlaysGames
@@MEPlaysGamesif you want to take it a step further then every Pokemon should learn growl because every Pokemon has a cry. So I think we can determine that cry might mean something specific to the game designers
How can Stoutland not learn Body Slam, Stouland is like the most normal pokemon of all time, and Body Slam is just a bigger Tackle, plus its a big dog, a tackle from a big dog can hurt
Oh right I think I watched False Swipe Gaming’s Stoutland video and they pointed out that Stoutland lost Return and couldn’t use Body Slam as an alternative
I wanted to know this answer so badly in gen 5. I kept tackle over take down because recoil can be a bitch, only to find out i was stuck with that being my main stab move until i taught it return
"Magnazone doesn't have 3 heads."
The two smaller heads on it's side: "Am I a joke to you?"
I dunno, I always thought of it as one big head, as opposed to a main head with two smaller ones attached
Magnezone might have one head tecnically, but his one head is 3 heads fused together, and he still has 3 eyes, and presumedly 3 "brains", or whatever the hell magnemites have, so it still makes sense for it to use triattack imo
Well however many heads you wanna say Magnezone has, I would say Tri Attack is fair game, cuz I don't think anybody would disagree that Doduo has two heads
@@MEPlaysGames thats true, but i dont Doduo should learn it tbf lmao
Technically magnezone still has 3 heads but one way bigger than the others and more fused than magneton so... yeah it can learn tri attack and makes sense.
@@MEPlaysGamesCourse it has three heads -- one's always just conveniently hidden behind another. Boom, problem solved
11:05 Pterosaurs are not ancestors to birds in any what whatsoever, would be like saying that crocodiles are bird ancestors. They're arcosaurs, but they have no direct relationship. But yeah, should learn brave bird
Yeah my bad, I biffed that part of the research but my point still stands. It's close enough that I wouldn't bat an eye if Aerodactyl learned Brave Bird
Gotta love how Gyarados can learn more Electric moves [Which its 4× weak to] than STAB flying moves lmao
To be fair Growl is just "cry" in Japanese and of course Growlithe also has a different name.
In some cases it's important to remember the localization isn't always 1 to 1 for better or worse.
They should then keep that in mind when doing translations..naming it after a word, that it cannot do, is rather silly ain't it? And the translation people can see the moves it can get as they're already finalized by that point typically (and if they aren't why can't they just add growl or whatever?)
To this day, I still don't understand why ferrothorn can't lern spiky shield.
cause homophobes can’t learn it
Silicobra also doesn't learn Mud Shot while it's whole thing is spitting sand
Sorry to be that guy, but as a huge dinosaur nerd, I can't let this slide
Pterosaurs are not ancestors to birds the same way as dinosaurs are
Dinosaurs are the ancestors to birds, but such close ancestors that birds are officially recognized as dinosaurs by the scientific community
Pterosaurs are not though, because they aren't dinosaurs, the last common ancestors between the first dinosaur and the first pterosaur split off way too early for either to exist
So think of pterosaurs as the great uncle of birds while dinosaurs are the great grandfather
Also, Charizard, Magmar, and Ampharos can't learn Tail Glow despite having bright things on their tails
Yanmega can't learn Fly even though the Pokédex says it's "easily capable of transporting an adult in flight." Garchomp can't learn Fly either despite the Pokédex talking about it flying at high speeds. Bronzong can't learn Heal Bell despite literally being a bell. Also, Zangoose can't learn Cut, Black Kyurem can't learn Ice Punch, Garbodor can't learn Poison Jab, Gholdengo can't learn Surf, and Dialga can't learn Future Sight.
Pikachu will bite you if you grab their tail, but that doesn't mean that Pikachu's cute little mouth is powerful enough to actually deal damage in battle.
Klinklang not being able to learn Rapid Spin was always very weird. But what's really criminal is Entei not being able to earthquake.
4:20 because you can only use it when terrain is active, the terrain is set up so you have access to a powerful move. If you don't wanna use your 130bp steel move, you can use the fairy moves you have. Hypothetically a viable competitive strategy.
not competitive viable, more like a gimmicky fun thing to do in regular play
@@kimotokirby1601 i mean in like certain showdown formats not tournaments or smth. if starmobile were allowed they'd definitely be viable. Steel roller is a pretty good move in monotype since a lot of teams set terrain.
Plus, Misty Terrain doesn't even boost Fairy moves ...
@@sephikong8323 YEH IT NERFS DRAGON MOVES TOO LIKE ??? so weird
Just finished this video from my recommended. Sounds like you guys had a lot of fun with this and some interesting stuff I didn't know about for sure. Wish you didn't make Flying pink because that was wigging me out lmao but I think you guys have a good vibe and the video is nicely put together!
Best wishes!
I really like how this video isn't really professional and you guys keep interrupting each other. Just makes it feel more alive!
i think espeon should be able to learn solar beam and agility. most psychic types can learn agility, even really slow ones, and espeon's its literally the sun pokemon so solar beam makes a lot of sense.
Wish they gave umbreon moonblast since it’s the moonlight pokemon
@@herpderp1013 it won't really use it, but hey, it fits
@@kimotokirby1601 it can actually use it to hit fighting types and other dark types
@@_friedtofu Umbreons spe atack stat is 60
Wigglytuff should definitely get moonlight. It evolves with a moon stone. Also boom burst
The move Pounce, introduced in Gen 9, is unlearnable by any cat based Pokémon.
That's probably a localization issue like how Sucker Punch is actually just Surprise Attack in Japan which is why lots of pokemon without arms can use it so the Pounce thing is probably just that in reverse
@@devinnall2284 It's called Pounce in Japanese as well. That's why I said that no cat-based Pokémon can learn it.
10:20 why can the GOLDFISH learn crunch??? It doesn’t have a mouth…
I love the banter *so* much. This channel has podcast energy with the scripting of a normal video and I love it. You get a subscribe!
Me who discovered the removal of dream eater on the hypno line... When it's concept was all about eating dreams
Damn, the quote about Zamazenta remaining weak aged like milk, bro is tearing up now
0:41 i think the reason is what is causing it. The move rock smash is a physical fighting move meaning they are breaking it by brute force hitting it with there body, claucher breaks them by shooting them which would make it a special attack that breaks them.
The reason why charizard can learn shadow claw is that Charmander has shadow in its name, as it's supposed to be casting shadow on cave walls, but the whole thing got lost in translation.
That's also probably why Growlith can't learn growl, both the move and the Pokémon got translated weirdly
Brave bird's description: "the user tucks in their *wings* and dives dangerous"
If you want a proper reason why Revavroom can't learn U-turn, it's due to it being associated with dragonflies in it's Japanese name.
If you want a funnier reason, it's because it would be a Hit and Run, and that sounds like an Illegal U-turn to me.
Tons of non-dragonfly pokemon learn u-turn...tons of non-bug pokemon learn it!! And pokemon clearly isn't against illegal moves as the dark type is FULL of cheap shots and illegal moves.
While it doesn't make sense that a doggo cannot learn something like a cry, the Growl-ithe thing is just a translation issue, just like how splash doesn't seem to make sense to not be water type even though its actual name is hop.
Growlithe's name is Guardy, a guard dog, hence why it can learn to bark, while growl is (an animal's) cry (not like, bawl your eyes out). Again, still doesn't make sense that dog cannot just cry, but at least it's not as insulting and just the translation team making a doodoo.
I love the moments of banter in these videos, brings more entertainment and just makes me smile. :3 You two have great comedic chemistry.
Honestly that's one of my favorite parts of running a channel with my friends, so I'm glad people seem to enjoy how much nonsense I leave in the videos
@@MEPlaysGames I hope to be like you lot one day... though, my editing skills are very doo doo, heh. Plus my OBS just keeps messing with the audio, still trying to figure things out you know. Also, thanks for responding to my comment, I really appreciate it.
I think they are both charisma deficient nerds with zero aura but I can see where you're coming from. Kinda wish they stayed on track more often
Think the best explanation for dragapult learning dragon claw and not shadow claw is that since there are/were so few dragon type moves they made sure at least one was a staple with every dragon type pokemon. Hell, even Altaria can be taught it and it doesnt have anything that even remotely resembles claws on its body. Not all ghost type pokemon can learn shadow claw and youd be surprised how few can. Its like the case with the gastly line in gen 2 not being able to learn the elemental punches until theyre a gengar, but in gen 7 they can ALL learn them
I feel like it's in a similar vein but Zacian didn't learn Play Rough by level up in Gen 8 , plenty of fairy types and even non fairy types learnt it by level up , but the legendary fairy dog that's all about attack had to resort to using a TR to learn it
I've never understood how Earth Power, which fits perfectly in Typhlosion, can't be learnt by this mon while freaking Politoed can
Too bad Wailord has terribly low Defense for Body Press.
Yeah when we say "big beefy boys" we were mostly referring to their physical size, as opposed to their defense stats
Same with snorlax
*_One must imagine wailord body pressing a skitty_* -some rando in r34.
Revavroom should be your poster child for this video. It just screams, "Why doesn't the literal car engine Pokémon get this move?", and not just for U-Turn. Flame Charge, Trailblaze, and Rapid Spin all come to mind, but I personally believe it is the most uniquely qualified non-Rock-Type Pokémon that should learn Accelerock. Revavroom is an engine fused to, and powering, a rock slab like a car; if anything should learn Accelerock, it's Revavroom.
Also give my boy Flare Blitz
Rapidash can learn Jump Kick, but not Blaze Kick, despite having feet that are on fire. However Genesect, which is 4x weak to the move, *can* learn it.
Drain Punch is not as widely distributed as it should be. Infernape has only just got access to the move in Gen 9. Pawmot can learn all of the Elemental Punches, Mach Punch and has the Hidden Ability Iron Fist, but still can't learn Drain Punch.
İ also fought fire team star boss first too
Garchomp can't learn Fly, yet we have SEEN it fly in both the anime and in recent games (and the Pokédex outright says it can fly much like a jet)
Typhlosion, the Volcano pokemon, doesn't learn Earth Power, a move that mentions eruptions in it's description, yet so many pokemon you wouldn't think can learn Earth Power can
Your first argument makes no sense.
The reason why Clauncher doesn’t learn Rock Smash is because Rock Smash is a physical fighting move. Clauncher’s Pokédex specifies that it LAUNCHES our jet propulsions (in other words, Special Attack). Therefore, it makes sense that Clauncher can’t learn Rock Smash, since Rock Smash is physical, yet the strength Clauncher uses is Special.
Everytime i see one of these videos no one EVER brings up the low list of pokemon that learn crabhammer and the potential blessing of slapping it on pokemon who have pincers. Scizor along with the paras line would LOVE the fire coverage,and then other contenders could be the dwebble and gligar lines who dont need it as much but would definitely be a pretty neat tech option.
Gligar can learn crab hammer
Gengar, the shadow pokemon, a pokemon that sneaks in the shadows, can't learn Shadow Sneak
Fun fact in the gold spaceworld 97 demo doduo has a baby form, with three heads suggesting that doduo has a third underdeveloped head
You forgot Nosepass. Nosepass was not able to learn Head Smash. Head Smash was a rock type move and Nosepass was a giant rock head. It was able to learn it as an egg move in gen 4 but no compatible Pokémon learned it to pass it down. Finally gen 9 has brought it back as an egg move.
Ampharos, the light pokemon, said to use the LIGHT from its TAIL as a beacon, can't learn the move TAIL GLOW. I mean, I get that its the signature move of Volbeat but with the signature moves of certain pokemon being given to others, i think its time for Ampharos to finallg learn it. It would also make it so much better as a tanky special attacker.
The parasite Pokémon having no leeching moves has me heated ngl. I wish I didn't know it existed
It actually might be a good thing that dragapult can't learn shadow claw because giving it any physical ghost move better than phantom force would get it banned from OU immediately
Now do the opposite, Pokemon that learn moves they shouldn't.
Kingambit is one of the most sworded Pokemon I've ever seen. Even its valiant mustache is made of sword. Yet Kingambit cannot learn Sacred Sword. You know... the dedicated sword attack.
Yuji having a signature move black fist. Inumaki's new signature pokemon is voice blow. Sukuna is world cutting punch.(sukuna is a legendary)
Ampharos can't learn Tail Glow despite the fact that it has a bulb on the end of its TAIL that can GLOW! Its used as the source of light for a freaking lighthouse! It should be able to learn Tail Glow! For feck sake GameFreak! Also please bring back Signal Beam, my boy Ampharos deserves that too.
16:17 the funny thing is if it had more Hp and defenses it would be a great wall.
I subscribed to you guys right away because you're fun to watch!
Garchomp still cant learn Dragon Dance, even though there are several non-draconic or reptilian pokemon who can.
Garchomp with dragon dance will be broken
@@ajrich1726 Power Creep has become too high so its not that bad
Dragapult not learning Shadow Claw is likely for the best since a good physical ghost move would break it.
In gen 4 games I was literally so confused when I found the duskull line could learn dream eater and nightmare yet the only way to put stuff to sleep was with secret power in a grassy terrain. Like you’re telling me it can learn will-o-wisp to burn and toxic to poison when not hypnosis to literally put it to sleep??? And it somehow also has rest, sleep talk, and snore??? I really think they just saw the word dream and nightmare in a rush and thought it would work with rest or something???
Dialga is the God of Time, who can't learn Future Sight.
Palkia is the God of Space, who can't learn Teleport.
Giratina is the God of Antimatter, who can't learn Explosion.
I dont think that dragapult should get a more reliable physical Ghost move. That's pretty much what makes it balanced and interesting
Sceptile doesn't get spore or sleep powder despite having spores on its back.
Wtf how do you have so little subs for this production value?
They omitted Poltergeist on Dragapult maybe to prevent It being OP, the same with Aegislash, also they omitted Moonblast on Togekiss, Dragon Dance on Garchomp.
However now they gave Heavy Slam to Metagross they should give as well Poltergeist to Dragapult.
And not giving it Shadow Claw is totally ridiculous.
Love submission's description at 15:20
The dynamic of this channel is the best
And then theres Gen 6 Tyrantrum learning Aerial Ace.
Fun fact: Charizard cant learn Wing Attack anymore except as an egg move
If you feel mad about your movepool, remember that Kartana can't learn Breaking Swipe.
This is like those videos from AuraGuardian I used to watch all those years ago, but actually feel fresh and new (unlike what CacophonousCorphish is doing - stopped watching after their first video). Good job!
Misty terrain does bot buff fairy types in any way. It just halves the damage from dragon moves
These guys are a joy whenever they go off script
4:40 Misty terrain does not boost Fairy-type moves, which is weird in its own. The only thing Misty terrain helps the starmobile is protecting it from status effects at this point.
6:53 This happened due to balance reasons -after releasing several strong behemoths ever created- I assume. Spamming Ghost moves with 142 Spe is not really that metagame healthy -yet they still gave us Spectrier and Shadow Calyrex, then Flutter mane- as Ghost types don't have a lot of resistances.
10:53 Imagine it learned both of these. This thing has like 150 speed which can instant OHKO most weak pokemon
this is a giant reason why competitive pokemon isn't 10X what it is now
In all fairness, I feel like some of these are missing due to balancing. But some of them are no brainers.
Zapdos may now learn Hurricane but it still hasn't got Air Slash
13:18 terra blast not surviving past gen 9 (dynamax cannon made it into gen 9)
When I learned that Annihilape can't learn Shadow Punch, I yelled, "THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!" and I got some funny looks. But just WHY?!! A Fighting Ghost Type that can't learn Shadow Punch, I just don't get it, if anything, Shadow Punch should be Annihilape's signature move!
U-turn is actually a technique in boxing where you avoid a crosse i think so it makes sense for revavroom to not learn it
That's not what the move is referencing though
@@MEPlaysGames funny video though
But, it’s a bug-type move despite what you said, not a fighting- type move. If U-Turn references what you said, it would be a fighting move.
Zangoose can't learn Cut for some reason, do I need to explain why that makes no sense at all? Is it useless, yes, but it's BEYOND illogical.
This one is actually really interesting, if the explanation I recall is correct; Cut is based on Iaijustsu-style "Drawing cut" techniques, the type you'd see for a delayed cut from a samurai in some anime, that kind of thing (This is why Farfetch'd can learn it, as the leek it carries is meant to be like its katana)
Zangoose, however, has been noted for always keeping on alert and never withdrawing its claws, so it never sheathes its weapons, and can therefore never perform something like the drawing motion required for Cut
@@alexryu2632 Kartana can learn cut yet I don't see it sheathing it's arms or anything. And Farfetchd doesn't sheath it's leak either, when using cut it just slashes the thing around somehow cutting with it's leak (don't ask me how that makes logical sense..idk how a thick leak cuts anything). And the rest of the pokemon that learn cut don't make sense with your explaination..Would a nidoking do a "drawing motion" with it's claws? Why not zangoose then? Or dragonite? Sandslash can learn cut but is the same situation as zangoose. Pokemon with pincers can even learn cut!
Growl's Japanese name is 'cry' so it makes sense Growlithe doesn't learn it.
The Japanese name of the move means CRY as in just a general animal noise, the same way the sounds Pokemon make when they enter the battle are called cries. So my point stands
@@MEPlaysGames I don't understand that logic. Every pokemon that can make a sound should learn growl?
All I’m saying is that the Japanese name doesn’t change my point that Growlithe should be able to learn it. The Japanese name for the move is often used to refer to barking, which Growlithe does a lot of according to the Pokédex. Just because the name doesn’t mean the exact same thing in Japanese doesn’t mean the move doesn’t make sense. There's nothing about Growl that suggests that Growlithe shouldn't be able to learn it. Plus there are moves that nearly every Pokemon can learn. Captivate and Confide are universal TMs in certain generations, and they lower stats in the same way
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Somthing that affected me today was that galarian farfetch'd & Sirfetch'd can't learn false swipe but normal farfetch'd can. Heck even binacle can learn false swipe. So dumb
Dragapult can't learn shadow claw because of clear body, it doesn't even have a shadow.
Misty Terrain doesn't actually boost the power of Fairy-type moves. It just cuts the power of Dragon-type moves, plus blocking status and a bunch of other bullshit.
Great video (:
Garchomp not having Dragon Dance is a crime
For Clauncher and Clawiter being able to shatter Rocks and not being able to learn Rock Smash, the same applies for it not being able to learn Cut then.
Growlithe is the localization name, not its Japanese name. You really shouldn't look at the localized names for this.
Not only that, but Roost makes it so Noctowl isn't Flying type anymore, so its not weak to Electric and turns pure Normal.
Ambipom can't learn Breaking Swipe either, despite it being a Tail Slap Move (Like, why can Tyrantrum learn it, but not Aurorus).
Aggron can't learn it either, which is odd due to its massive tail. Aggron has massive horns as well, despite that its unable to learn Megahorn, Horn Drill and Drill Run.
For Growlithe it still makes sense. The team in charge of translations shouldn't of named Growlithe GROWL-ithe when it cannot learn growl..they could of easily named it literally anything else. Why name a pokemon after an action the pokemon is incaple of doing? Besides it's a dog, dogs can growl, it should of been able to learn growl like most other puppy pokemon.
It always messes me up how kyurem doesn’t get icicle crash or ice punch
Didn't Kyurem get icicle crash in gen 8?
another movepool oddity: Arctozolt can learn Thunder Punch and Mega Punch but not Ice Punch
At least my boy Dustox can learn Moonlight lol.
Volbeat and Illumise had Signal Beam as a signature move when they were introduced in Gen3. Then it got distributed to other pokemon. Then for some reason they removed the attack from Gen9, lame, but at least Volbeat and Illumise weren't there either. Then they brought back those pokemon with the DLC, but not Signal Beam. So not only did their signature attack stop being their signature attack, but then it got removed entirely and they didn't even bother to bring the move back when the pokemon came back.
At least Tail Glow came back. But Ampharos still can't learn it. Yes, its called Firefly Glow in Japan, but Manaphy and Xyrcitree can learn it and it those sure ain't fireflys, so let Ampharos have it already.
A Mega Nidoking and Nidoqueen is needed.
The fact that you guys said Zamazenta is one of the weakest legendaries of all time nowadays when he is in fact the complete opposite and even made it to top 8 in Worlds is WILD to me
I really thought Moonblast gets power up after using Moonlight
Im playing heartgold rn and its pissing me off so bad that my Heracross cannot learn U-Turn or Drain Punch. I was hyped to get the #1 prize tm drain punch from the lottery and cant even use it except Alakazam which, why would I do that...
claydol can't learn power gem either and I feel like he should be able to
4:20 Fairy moves aren't boosted in Misty Terrain.
nice list
If Gen 10 gets released in the Future maybe they'll fix that