“MOST ARTIST WILL SIGN THEIR RIGHTS AWAY!!!” JOE BUDDEN ON WHETHER THERE’S HOPE FOR FUTURE ARTIST
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This whole series of Budden shows that Math is very surface level & has a lot to learn in this business & there's nothing wrong with that.
It’s like listening to your little brother that think he knows 😒 you can tell that if Math learns the game he will go crazy afterwards. Glad to see the growth in real time.
the whole industry including the smart ones are surface level. Budden has been trying to educate these guys about the industry but no one wants to listen...because they don't want to do the work.
We been knew that since he died on the hill over slaves being cowards.
He’s a rookie still
@macho_357 @chayannetweh6259 to be fair, the exchange of dialogue of math to agree and not challenge the guest in a way to get the dialogue going,the show would have been one sided and also math is independent started his own show that speak volumes moves like an established indie artists with knowledge of the game. Even if he decides to get bought out or partner with a large corporation,thats still a win for building his show ground up. The pointbis to make joe vuddwn and other guest to talk and explain their side to the story
Math just listens to respond. He doesn’t listen to the question he just want to respond because it’s his platform that whack.!
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Joe and Mecca got Math looking bad out here 😂😂😂
Joe budden won’t put his purse on the ground 😂😂😂😂
I saved the last comment just in case they want to say no hope niggas again! your name is printed on the contract be somebody not a sucker a survivor be blessed always our technique is flawless 🙏🏿
We need this whole podcast ASAP too many gems getting dropped
Absolutely no math gems were given
Don't matter how many gems get dropped if nobody picks them up.
all the clips are uploaded
Yeah the way he releases these is so dumb to me. Giving up the whole episode
@@NewDave💯
Joes intelligence far surpass any of his hiccups. He's extremely smart,well spoken,direct and no nonsense.
That's the growth of him.
He's come a very long way.
Easy to overlook the things he does i disagree with when i can see the intelligence he possesses at his core. He's seasoned in this industry business. He's been around a long time now.
Nah yall keep hating on him. Keep the same energy
@@risktakerceo1837 I mean if that's what you took from my comment feel what you must. I'm not here to argue your misinterpretations. Good Day Sir.
That's why you don't take it as a loss but a lesson you learn so much from losing as long as you don't give up!
Joe shows how much they don’t know
Joe is exposing alot of truth in this interview and the powers that be won't like this 😊
Fuck em
Those in power aren't concerned with what is known, truth is always (*hidden*) in plain sight. The issue will forever be what we do under pressure. If there's a pressing financial need most people will take what they can get as long as it meets the need.
Music artists need a union and their own streaming platform that ONLY accepts artists in that union.
I agree but it would only work if they kept the streaming service privately owned and door kept who has ownership in it.
If not all the billionaires at the record labels just gonna buy out the company and run game on us again
Master P has said this years ago
😂😂😂 yall just don’t get it. The key is cds 💿!!!! Tangible physical merchandise you can touch
@@risktakerceo1837 i agree, but technology isn't going to stop advancing no way to go back physical products as far as albums go CD/Vinyl its a dead market
Hov tried-yall got tidal up outta here lol
I must say Joe is a hip hop Historian
productive conversations! Thanks for all these, Math and team.
There is hope for future artists because they have access to more information to make a wiser decision. Back in the day certain information wasn't accessible like it is now.
you'd think that...but newer artists still signing bad deals, 360's etc.
@@thecunninlynguistBecause they're desperate to change their life and the record companies know this.
A good example is Glorilla. When her wave ends and she's no longer popular she will cry about how Yo Gotti owns all her publishing & masters while making next to nothing off of her music.
@@Bran-Da-Don nah i get it. some things never change, unfortunately.
@@Bran-Da-DonCould be true. I've seen where things people don't even make a problem others decide they will. Can't knock somebody for wanting to fight for what's theirs. I just have witnessed the what and who, there's a problem where? That's when it should get strange. Off topic or slightly related racism. There are blacks that are hung up on slavery and 40 acres a mule. Some are like if it comes okay but don't mind rebuilding. These fools out here have a problem with the latter! Smfh I'm so for segregation like a religion and will pay tithes and offering! Lol
I can't get past Joe Budden holding a purse
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Math stay focused geezs you doing a great job !
Salute my brother 🙏🏾 💯
Now that modest growth has turned into a boom, with sales up over 60% between 2020 and 2021 and up another 22% at the 2022 midyear raking in $570 million, according to the RIAA, and vinyl plants are running at full capacity across the country.
MY MAN JUST DROP THE WHOLE VIDEOOOOO !!! GAAA DAMN. im tired of all these clips when this feels like a SOLID fucking pod!. GIMME THE POD! lol
It's great business. If 100k people are going to watch the whole episode that's only 100k views, but if those same 100k will watch all 5 clips that's 500k views.😉 (edited more realistic #s)
Truth someone needs to find out the true value of streams 💯💯💯💯💯💯
That’s a whole purse my guy
😂 with all the gems being dropped i just cant let the purse slide !!! 😂😂 like Yo mom dukes got the same joint in ha crib rn... WHAT R WE DOINNN !!
Detroit has two pressing plants. Archer and Third Man.
Math, I seen you bumping Sade in traffic. True story
AMMERICA NU dame dash i just found it on youtube ,thanks🙏🏾👍
One more project Mouse!!!
Dza with the DX Long Sleeve 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Yo Mecc it got a vinyl pressing factory right here in Brownsville Brooklyn facts of life
What happened to the vinyl spot in south jersey I forget their name. They did my 1st Indy single
Jack Whites Thirdman records out in Nashville prints vinyl
Joe be dropping gems and math be sounding like flip jus that’s headed as hell ,
Joe doesn't really drop gems.
Math might be autistic 😂 u can see the intelligence differences between both of em.
Joe gets a lot of credit for y’all to hate him. Keep hating him 😂😂😂😂.
@@wandizzleshiiiiidddddd you a fool.
@@wandizzle Exactly. He says a lot of shit that doesn't hold up to scrutiny. He's in another video talking about the way to get around record labels is just to go to a family member with good credit and get them to take out a loan to fund your career. Completely ignoring that the large majority of artists fail, or that you'll be screwing over that family member if you don't succeed, or that even if you get the money artists don't have experience in marketing and getting their name out there. Yet you'll have a bunch of dumb dumbs like "yo that's deep".
UR pressing is located in Tennessee and currently has a minimum requirement of 100 units for 7" records and 300 units for 10" and 12" records. If you are doing multiple colors, each color needs to be at least 300 records. Napster is a tired excuse for people not wanting to try. Napsters hay day in all its glory only resulted in a 2.8% dip from historic highs assuming you’d attribute 100% of it to Napster. Any dip in profit has corporations panicking because they’re babies and they’re greedy as all get out. Its baffling how people can tell tales of hustling to sell any and everything, even evading law enforcement while doing so, but can’t find a way to move art.
Hustling is all about speed - quick, fast, and in a hurry. There is nothing quick about vinyl. The beauty of it is getting to slow down and relax. That's not where popular music nor the average music consumer is right now. Vinyls are more expensive, larger, stationary and fragile. But they do sound great 👍
Dude in the barber chair with the black hat speaking Factz! Go back to tapes and CD’s “least then you knew 500K was gold, yall don’t even know what a stream is worth” FACTZZZZ!!!
Math #1 in hip-hop podcasts💪💯👍
Dass 🧢
No Joe is #1. In Drink Champ Nore over talking guest, MDWOG too much meat muchin guests n too much pauses for ads n real estate commercials we don't care about, Math always playin bullshit raps we ain't tryna hear 😂😂 Joe only one who gets to the point 🗣️🗣️💯
@@310percentageand he’s hated for getting to the point 😂
Intro!!!🔥
They sign their rights away with a smile and then pop bottles to celebrate
That all around song hard bro threw that in the playlist 😂
Homies completely wrong. Vinyls out sold all that. I made a nice chunk off viynls and tapes. What are they talking about
mecca is wrong there are vinyl pressings in america LA
The problem is nobody is making great music! Always has been!!!
1:29 Joe and his purse 🤦🏾♂️
I respect Joe highly, but the purse us crazy lol!
It’s several vinyl factories in America.
I.e. Memphis got one that’s booming.
It’s 97 companies that manufacture Vinyl In the USA rn by the way…just…throwing that out there
Joe giving a masterclass for free
One thing I will say about Joe is that when he speaks, it comes from him looking at all point of views. You might not like it, but when he speaks, everything is very well thought out and calculated. I can always say that about Joe. I can present you with a question and you might answer in 30-60 seconds. Joe might say let's keep talking and get back to you in 30 minutes once he has run a bunch of shit through his head. Quite honestly, I think Joe missed his calling card. He should have went and gotten a degree in philosphy the way his mind works and been a college professor.
But Joe likes to work for himself better than being a professor
@@MrHarlandwilson, Joe likes to teach. I think he would make an outstanding professor when it comes to philosophy. Yes, Joe wants to be his own boss, but the chance to share the knowledge and thought process that he has he would revel in that.
he's smart and he droppin gems here, but he's often way too manipulative. great at spinning tho. so maybe he could be a spin class instructor.
Tell joe pull his panties up
And put the purse down 😂
Yoooo Hassan is hilarious 😂😂😂😂
There's something fearsome about a business plan.....
I want to know what kind of exclusive deals artists are signing that gets them vinyl put in big box stores like Walmart and Target. Ive seen Cole, Kendrick, and Taylor Swift with vinyl in the stores
no offence, intro song ain't it lmfaooo
How you talking shit with that horrible grammar lol. Offence?
When that nigga adlib come in and he be like "Ahh Ahh!!" I start laughing
You can easily get one vinyl press & do 3d printing from that .. nobody does it thou 🤷🏾♂️
Awh man no dialogue about ice spice cheeks fo real? 😫😫🤣🤣🤣
how much should the loan be? and what exactly should you be spending money on if you a rapper who's unsigned?
Marketing and ads and mentorship
There are two pressing plants in Detroit alone. Archer & Third Man Records.
I love the gems being dropped but why does that grown man have a pocketbook on his lap??? Cmon son
Is that DZA sitting next to Joe?
disc makers does vinyl & they're in new jersey, mecca's buggin...
What's with the purse😂😂😂. Real gangster
The answer is every artist needs to have their own platform and sell direct to consumer. Yeah that’s a lot of websites to visit and memberships or subscriptions but it takes control from the labels. Real numbers can be calculated. But the mentality of the masses don’t know. It’s like on a plantation. The slaves outnumber the master and family but once the slaves take over they won’t know what to do next.
The intro song and the songs played after have grown on me...😅💪🏽
There definitely vinyl manufacturers in America.
It’s like when Kanye was trying to explain the fashion industry and the Legend Sway telling him to go print TShirts. Class is in session
Abraham Lincoln - Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt
I never left cd's
The only task for the 35+ yr old rapper is convincing kids and young adults that they want to hear boom bap rap on beats under 80 bpm when popular songs today are on beats that are at least 110 bpm. Now convincing them to buy a CD is obselete record labels already Announced they're discontinuing the distribution of Cd's in 2024. 💯✌🏾
fuck a loan just save a huge bag lit ep
Joe Budden be dropping Jewels of information
Joe is really a bad bitch lol. man sitting there with a birkin bag on his lap 😂
That's what I'm thinking lol
The man purse is crazy
Math don’t take out a loan bra 😂
Brooklyn Vinyl My G. Look it up.
Joe really walking around with a purse
Basically, what Joe is saying is the person who has the money, and business knowledge, is the one who has the power
Math is just talking about the person who markets & promotes. Those people come & go, but the one who has the money ALWAYS stay in the game cause they have business knowledge, and the finances, to make a dream become reality!
Now it is easier for younger artists to just invest in themselves and put their own stuff out on multiple platforms. Plus with the AI, you can easily edit your own work and videos.
Watching the series with Joe burdens math is starting to sound and look like he's with the industry. Mecca is the only one who is in tuned with the regular player
One could possibly roll with legitimate legal representation...as a possibility. It is available, if one wants to look... Most don't and regret it later. Yes it is supply and demand. The model seems to have run it's course. People do have to hear it, and see in their heads, hearts and minds.
Full episode or we riot
gun & a mask//
'where's the cash' its a pop up..
Usb cards with artwork us the new cd and merchandise in 1
Lmao… what is he talking about.. Standard vinyl makes vinyl
joe droppin gems so we all just gonna ignore the purse?
Why is Joe rocking a purse? Also, those shoes 🤔. He couldn't stand his ground in that scuffle he got in because of those shoes!
Mecca dropped a bomb “you can be sittin on 300 pieces of vinyl that don’t move and you only sold 20” yikes talk about losing money farealz id be mad asf.
I need that math song
Is hard to make a simple story and convolute all it.
Hoffa Gang!!
Budden dropping knowledge but what's up with the purse
This dude Joe be talking like he cares about the artist. He dont. Most of these oldhead rappers just mad that these labels used to jerk them so bad. Pause! So they still bitter...and wanna stick it to them because of that. FR. IJS
The white groups still sell vinyl at the shows i work
ice spice cheeks 😂😂
we are at an inflection point and a culmination....turn hope into confidence without a doubt....do you agree?
until you have a core following you shouldnt be tryna sell people your music on vinyl - most people buy vinyls from artists they built a bond with - not every artists has that cult base where they can sustain an independent career off merch and collectibles
You notice everyone is listening except math smh
Video starts at 00:39
Math just focus on being a top tier interviewer you have the potential to be monumental…you’re always trying to promote your rap career is cringy..perfect your craft.
Is that a purse in his lap?
Yo you can get vinyl pressed in the US. Pirate press, these guys are talking like slaves to the mainstream.
I listen to understand rap and punk rock. If you make good music and can get a fan base you can make a good living off of vinyl and shows. Streaming is just promotion.
Who's buying vinyl? With most of the population constantly on the go where are you going to play a vinyl record? You won't be able to listen in your car, on the subway, at the gym, or your computer at work. Why buy it a physical record when you can have it right on your phone?
THESE FOOLS ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SYSTEM AND THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE SYSTEM IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why Joe got a purse on his lap?
2 late. Overseas artist are going to get the bag now. Can more easily take advantage of them