What Went Wrong With E3?

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  • Опубліковано 22 гру 2024

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  • @eternalfailure4081
    @eternalfailure4081 Рік тому +220

    Although E3 was much loved by the games public as a whole, every story I've heard from anyone who actually went (mostly from the press but also companies and public) was how awful it was to actually be there. Nobody involved ever wanted to be there, it was just a huge obligation. As soon as the pandemic made someone say "wait.. why did we do this again?" Everyone came to their senses.

    • @rhinox9292
      @rhinox9292 Рік тому +21

      For a long time it was the best way to show future games and hardware, but as times changed it was no longer needed thanks to things like Sony State of Play Nintendo Directs. But I imagine as a trade show it would be better for the viewer than someone there: long hours on your feet, covering a bunch of products you don’t care about for extended periods, interviewing people who don’t want to be there.

    • @Tampafan33
      @Tampafan33 Рік тому +5

      Nah thats a lie i had great times there

    • @RetroYoungen
      @RetroYoungen Рік тому +24

      I was part of the gaming press at E3 from 2011-2016, and honestly... yeah, it was exhausting. For us, it's like a standard FUN gaming convention, mixed with marketing meetings and homework to finish. It's not a three-day event, it's FIVE days: get ready, go to meetings, travel home and blitz through more articles to publish.
      It was a fun thing and I don't regret a thing, but I'm happy to not have 3 hours a night for a week. 😕

    • @carlrygwelski586
      @carlrygwelski586 Рік тому +11

      I think streaming popularity changed the game, not "why did we ever do this"

    • @Jacen436987
      @Jacen436987 Рік тому +3

      @@rhinox9292 game devs, especially AAA game devs should've been forced to attend E3 instead of splitting off into their own shows. they practically demand we buy their games. E3 is the least they can give us in return

  • @pollardiniho
    @pollardiniho Рік тому +120

    That intro hit me in the feels 😢 Miss the days of rushing home from school to watch two hours of Microsoft convincing us we needed smartscreen, Sony passing a game between 2 people and it being the best thing ever and controllers dying right in the middle of a on stage demo

    • @noahknight4039
      @noahknight4039 Рік тому +4

      Embarrassment like that is why the big dogs started dropping out. Why pay for a full E3 event and possibly have a bone head moment when you can just stream trailers and gameplay reveals online in one 45 min video?

    • @DrawciaGleam02
      @DrawciaGleam02 Рік тому

      "controllers dying right in the middle of a on stage demo"
      Which E3 was that???

    • @pollardiniho
      @pollardiniho Рік тому +2

      @@DrawciaGleam02 Which one wasn't it 😂 Uncharted 4 I think is probably the most famous one

    • @AKUNJIG
      @AKUNJIG Рік тому

      Facts. I remember sprinting home to turn on IGN to see the Conferences.

  • @CatRichardBojangles
    @CatRichardBojangles Рік тому +30

    I used to sit and watch G4s live coverage for hours. God those were the days. The Halo 2 release date is still and all time moment for me.

    • @AKUNJIG
      @AKUNJIG Рік тому +1

      Twilight Princess & Kingdom Hearts III for me.

    • @ThatMF_Doom
      @ThatMF_Doom Рік тому +1

      That was the peak of gaming and gaming culture for me

  • @Ikcatcher
    @Ikcatcher Рік тому +52

    I guess the pandemic basically convinced everyone that E3 was no longer needed when everyone could just host their own presentations

    • @Jacen436987
      @Jacen436987 Рік тому +4

      such a small minded concept.

    • @jish55
      @jish55 Рік тому +1

      Less convinced and more confirmed what was slowly happening anyway (before the pandemic, Sony was starting to go the same route as Nintendo and wasn't even planning on attending E3 anymore).

  • @nightday2030
    @nightday2030 Рік тому +45

    As sad as it is, we can't deny it that if you can house your own conference or video presentation in-house online for a much more cheaper price, flexible scheduling, with no time limit or quota, compared to an expensive stage conference where you have to share the spotlight with other studio then of course I would choose the former.

  • @InfectiousGroovePodcast
    @InfectiousGroovePodcast Рік тому +8

    The original G4TV and game show coverage was a magical combo for me.

    • @brandongabriel1693
      @brandongabriel1693 Рік тому +1

      oh my god remember this channel it was gold

    • @InfectiousGroovePodcast
      @InfectiousGroovePodcast Рік тому

      @@brandongabriel1693 absolutely. I used to watch all of their trade show coverage and a ton of Attack of the Show.

    • @brandongabriel1693
      @brandongabriel1693 Рік тому

      @@InfectiousGroovePodcast if i remember correctly they did have a episode where they would go to a love hotel

  • @kermitthepog7063
    @kermitthepog7063 Рік тому +19

    Love these video essays Ben, keep them coming!

  • @MrBeardsley
    @MrBeardsley Рік тому +13

    I love this series for two reasons. One, I find learning about flops and failures far more interesting than big successes (it’s why I also love Worst Games and Matt McMuscles’ What Happened series). Two, I get to listen to Ben narrate for 20 minutes.

  • @AKUNJIG
    @AKUNJIG Рік тому +4

    I remember buying Playstation Magazine at an Airport highlighting E3 in 2004 learning that this exists. It was a dream for me to go there, now it won't happen. 😢

  • @12thMandalorian
    @12thMandalorian Рік тому +4

    "What Went Wrong...." is my favourite TripleJump video series! Thank you for putting out such good content

  • @juans8356
    @juans8356 Рік тому +2

    what went wrong? nothing, the internet became the new mainstream way to get instant access and leaks for e3 would show up 2 months prior to the events.

  • @RantingThespian
    @RantingThespian Рік тому +45

    Yes! More videos like THIS ONE and less lists, please!

    • @JustinBailey91
      @JustinBailey91 Рік тому +5

      Fewer lists*

    • @jdrahonovsky
      @jdrahonovsky Рік тому +6

      Don't listen to them^^ more lists. MOAAAR

    • @MrBeardsley
      @MrBeardsley Рік тому +4

      They put out a lot of lists because they’re relatively quick and easy to make. Shows like WGE, Weirdest Games, Main Menu and What Went Wrong With take awhile to produce and edit, so if they only focused on those shows they’d only wind up putting out at most three or four videos a month. UA-cam’s algorithms are more likely to push channels that upload content on a frequent basis, so the lists are basically filler to keep the channel visible.

    • @JB2FROSTY
      @JB2FROSTY Рік тому

      Shut up

    • @scro910
      @scro910 Рік тому

      Right you can only say oh yeah sports time a good enough number of times before u realize it’s not eu humor it’s stale n low vibrational

  • @uncut_cowboy
    @uncut_cowboy Рік тому +4

    I'm really impressed with you guys, your publication continues putting out higher and higher quality videos.

  • @Talk_and_Reaction
    @Talk_and_Reaction Рік тому +7

    to me E3 is a great thing . I love looking forward to any accidental funny presentations , it was part of the charm . yes I like the the online shows and such . but nothing will ever compare to the live presentations

  • @otakubullfrog1665
    @otakubullfrog1665 Рік тому +2

    As much as I would have loved to have somehow attended E3 back in the late nineties or 2000s when it was this giant, seemingly magical event I could only read about in gaming magazines, I don't think that an E3 held in 2023 would have been that, nor do I expect that any future events that may try to cash-in on its name will be. The older I get, the more I've come to accept that many things could only really work in the time and circumstances under which they happened and that it's probably better to explore what could only be done now rather than to try and recreate them.

  • @ChronoUchiha
    @ChronoUchiha Рік тому +5

    The social media era killed E3. Back in the 90s, and early 00's gamers could only get the scoop on new gaming innovations through this conference. As time went on however, the ease of access of Twitter and other social apps made access to game news that much more simple. Game developers found it cheaper to just put out a tweet than to invest in booths and venue fees. It's a shame because I really did look forward to the E3 shows, but at this point it's pretty much dead.

    • @Finfection
      @Finfection Рік тому +1

      Apparently Gamespot or IGN didn't exist before social media, huh?

    • @mcoeif
      @mcoeif 6 місяців тому

      ​@@FinfectionForgive him for his youth. We were all there once. Back in 90 and early 2000's, we got our scoop through magazines (EGM, Gamepro etc.) and websites (for those who had the internet). Then as the 2000's rolled on when every household finally had broadband internet only then everything switched online.

    • @mcoeif
      @mcoeif 6 місяців тому

      ​@@Finfection​Forgive him for his youth. We were all there once. Back in 90 and early 2000's, we got our scoop through magazines (EGM, Gamepro etc.) and websites (for those who had the internet). Then as the 2000's rolled on when every household finally had broadband internet only then everything switched online.

  • @Ariurotl
    @Ariurotl Рік тому +7

    AAA companies also don't like to lose so they'd rather host their own stuff where they're winners every time and are never challenged. Compare that to the old practice of yearly debates as to who "won" E3.

  • @Seouldrift7
    @Seouldrift7 Рік тому +4

    Hope it isn't over. Miss G4 in the 00's.

  • @lcrawfo2
    @lcrawfo2 Рік тому +1

    You get a like for the Scott Steiner reference at 4:07

  • @xBloodXGusherx
    @xBloodXGusherx Рік тому +2

    This would have been SEGA's chance to come back and steal the market.

  • @bartekkubicaku-bitsa9802
    @bartekkubicaku-bitsa9802 Рік тому +2

    Great video 👍Some time ago I asked this question and all the conundrums have been cleared up. I think that if e3 were to return, it would have to completely reinvent itself or go back to its roots altogether. Good luck with that.

  • @derek-64
    @derek-64 Рік тому +2

    No mention of pretty, scantily clad booth babes? Dude, c'mon. A moment of silence for the booth babes. ⚘️

  • @FeiFongWang
    @FeiFongWang Рік тому +24

    E3 was a million times more fun then these stale and sterilized "digital showcases" we have now... how does Nintendo make some of the most fun games but their showcases seem like they're trying to appeal to forty-year-old yacht purchasers.

    • @DarthSoto78
      @DarthSoto78 Рік тому +6

      Because their share holders are 40+ year old yacht purchasers. That is who these showcases are actually made for.

    • @Kuzey457
      @Kuzey457 Рік тому

      I get that it's more practical to do everything online and personalized. But it's just a shame in-person events are dying all around. One of the ways communities could gather together, bond, and physically feel all this new tech and stuff. Just another piece of humanity dying unfortunately.

  • @titowrestling
    @titowrestling Рік тому +3

    E3 was another victim of technology, but I have always heard it was expensive for companies to attend and a hassle waiting in lines for attendees.

  • @medenilla12
    @medenilla12 Рік тому

    Living in LA when E3 is in town, it creates a buzz of excitement, yet it brings a lot of traffic as well.

  • @ZakKypto
    @ZakKypto Рік тому +2

    Its sad E3 is gone. now we have gamescom, summer games fest, Playstation Showcase, and Nintendo Direct. I miss when everything was just one show kept things streamlined.

  • @hermitxIII
    @hermitxIII Рік тому +2

    It was over when they got rid of booth babes.

  • @TeamSoraPresents
    @TeamSoraPresents Рік тому +6

    Ever since I first discovered E3 (around 04-06 or something, idk) I had dreamed of presenting my own game at the show...
    [sigh] Looks like that's never happening.

    • @TheAnonymousIndividual
      @TheAnonymousIndividual 6 місяців тому +1

      You said this 11+ months ago and it still resonates with me. I heard of E3 around the very early 2000's (probably 2000 or 2001, via my father telling me about it). E3 quickly and genuinely became the one event I looked forward to most during the year above everything. It was always a dream of mine, a mission of my life, one of the top bucket list entries, to attend E3. Whether I be going as a fan or going as a developer presenting a game I was developing, it was my dream.
      Well, E3 is sadly gone forever and tbh, it became increasingly obvious the last 5 - 7 years of it. Once a celebration of games and being a 'nerd,' quickly became a corporate trade show. Thankfully, I can say I've been to PAX East on 3 separate occasions (2013, 2015, and 2017), but that's it. Wish I could have attended an E3 but I'm very thankful to say I got to experience it at its peak when G4TV and SpikeTV were both things. RIP, E3.

  • @12thMandalorian
    @12thMandalorian Рік тому

    These are Triple Jumps BEST type of videos, long deep dives on anything and everything gaming!!!

  • @benjohnson1761
    @benjohnson1761 Рік тому +5

    And now it's gone. Forever 🙁

  • @adrid.senpai7587
    @adrid.senpai7587 Рік тому +1

    E3 was great. I remember having "watch parties" at my friends house being stoked to watch our favorite developers and hope for the new announcement on our favorite video game series.

  • @fenrichvega6166
    @fenrichvega6166 Рік тому

    Also let's not forget that tiny extra point that probably helped lead developers out the door of E3. The time when everyone's personal contact info was leaked on the E3 website for 2 hours before anyone did anything. Phone numbers,home address etc

  • @jakesmith6233
    @jakesmith6233 Рік тому +2

    I've been wondering what Ben Potter was doing after leaving WhatCulture.Good to see he's doing well!

  • @FainaruFarewell
    @FainaruFarewell Рік тому +2

    4:09 Nice Scott Steiner reference

  • @Alucard-A-La-Carte
    @Alucard-A-La-Carte Рік тому +1

    That time they doxxed the games press and their apology consisted of a bashful "I'm a bad widdle boy" was a low-point...

  • @camrsr5463
    @camrsr5463 Рік тому +1

    7:37...dude in the red flannel looks like a younger version of my buddy Aaron. love you buddy. hope you are well.

  • @ExelArts
    @ExelArts Рік тому +1

    Getting rid of booth babes and not letting The general public in was the start of the problem

  • @billybollockhead5628
    @billybollockhead5628 Рік тому +1

    The reality also, is that sometimes being at e3 your game can stand out - but realistically, you'll be lost among all the other games on show.

  • @blackcountrysmoggie
    @blackcountrysmoggie Рік тому +1

    That was really good work. Thanks

  • @freddiejohnson6137
    @freddiejohnson6137 Рік тому +2

    In the days where you can do online presentation not only to the public but others in the industry the whole point to E3 becomes moot and the publishers done it for those reasons. They also can announce games and hardware all year around easier now and don't have to wait for these trade shows to be able to do it.

  • @gavin4342
    @gavin4342 Рік тому +1

    La Parka sighting = Instant like

  • @christophergrayson1959
    @christophergrayson1959 Рік тому

    Love this video essay type of content, BAP

  • @putowtin
    @putowtin Рік тому

    fabulous video, love these essay vids :D

  • @this_isnt_patrick
    @this_isnt_patrick Рік тому +1

    Loving these

  • @TheNextBiggieThingTR
    @TheNextBiggieThingTR Рік тому +1

    4:07 quality scott steiner reference

  • @fafafriendly
    @fafafriendly Рік тому

    Your posts are always witty and amazing!!!!😁👍🏼

  • @joncarter3761
    @joncarter3761 Рік тому +1

    E3 got replaced by Summer Games Fest, publisher solo streams and thinking they're too big to be replaced.

  • @geoffgero6081
    @geoffgero6081 Рік тому

    I remember watching E3 05 with baited breath. I was so excited to see the Nintendo Revolution and the PS3. Feels like a different world, and I didn't even realize E3 hasn't happened for real since 2019.

  • @VonDiesel3768
    @VonDiesel3768 Рік тому

    I really thought after talking about the snark levels, he was gonna say “they paved paradise and put up a snarking lot”

  • @DVGBlur
    @DVGBlur Рік тому +1

    And alas my dream to attend an E3 is possibly gonna die

  • @OneRandomVictory
    @OneRandomVictory Рік тому

    I don't even watch the presentations half the time cause I'll just get all the trailers posted in my feed within an hour anyways.

  • @Ro_Morgen
    @Ro_Morgen Рік тому

    Excellent video guys!

  • @FainaruFarewell
    @FainaruFarewell Рік тому

    This is my favourite series you do!

  • @brucedlx
    @brucedlx Рік тому

    I love this what went wrong series please keep doing more

  • @TheOminousbeanbag
    @TheOminousbeanbag Рік тому +1

    I work in trade shows and those numbers are pretty standard. You should see what CES or NAB booths cost, probably a lot of the reason they went out on their own.

    • @TheOminousbeanbag
      @TheOminousbeanbag Рік тому

      Also a 22kft/sq booth is huge lol. The 25kft/sq booth I just did had 9 big ass construction vehicles, a bunch of offices, and a lounge.

  • @fenrichvega6166
    @fenrichvega6166 Рік тому

    I like these kind of videos. The lists are cool too but ya should do more of these more often

  • @OhNoJoshEdits
    @OhNoJoshEdits Рік тому

    I LOVE this “What Went Wrong” series

  • @homeaccount5943
    @homeaccount5943 Рік тому +2

    I really miss E3.

  • @AEmiliusLives
    @AEmiliusLives Рік тому +1

    Ah... ye good olde E3... Back in the day I followed physical magazines coverage of it. Those were the days.

  • @denisvarga2794
    @denisvarga2794 Рік тому

    To be fair, i was ready to watch E3 this month... I COMPLETELY forgot it dont exist anymore.... Kinda sad, but not really... Was kinda cool ritual in my life, stay up at night every year for 3 days, sleeping for couple hours, then watching microsoft presentation, then sleeping for a little-bit more, then watching something from Ubisoft... Then doing the same for Nintendo... etc.... Was cool to do, even tho i was at home, it made me feel kinda included in the expo... When i became older i now understand how dumb it was, and watched the last 2 of them on youtube when i had a normal night sleep, but still... Cool times...

  • @ElRigs83
    @ElRigs83 Рік тому

    Back in 07 I went to the public version called E for All. I played some games grabbed the free 5 hour energy and went to sightseeing in LA

  • @garuelx8627
    @garuelx8627 Рік тому

    Well for starters, those areas of California are currently living in The Purge. Not the most business friendly places atm...

  • @rahooley7985
    @rahooley7985 Рік тому

    love a good deep dive! keep it up guys!

  • @NoctLightCloud
    @NoctLightCloud Рік тому

    thank you for this video!

  • @yugiohmagicalmusketeers
    @yugiohmagicalmusketeers Рік тому +2

    RIP E3

  • @stevemcjob
    @stevemcjob Рік тому +1

    My annual dose of Industry cringe and booth babes.

  • @mikekyto
    @mikekyto Рік тому +2

    I miss the E3 :(

  • @AbdFattah
    @AbdFattah 10 місяців тому

    4:14 I love how everything bad that happens is 2020 is Animal Crossing's fault

  • @bananaempijama
    @bananaempijama Рік тому

    Corporations took over in a business model way

  • @murdocnl
    @murdocnl Рік тому +1

    Love listening to Ben

  • @jckorn9148
    @jckorn9148 Рік тому +1

    The only things that actually benefit from these massive conventions aren't the venders themselves.
    It's the convention centers, hotels, airline companies.
    It's a gigantic waste of time and pain in the ass.

  • @nameuser4406
    @nameuser4406 Рік тому

    That show was a bonus to the good games that were out. No good games, just ways to take your money.

  • @cbennett_12
    @cbennett_12 Рік тому

    Twitch definitely helped, because I remember trying to watch the first few Nintendo Directs on uStream (unrelated to Ubisoft, somehow) and it was an absolute pain. If they had stuck with them and not moved to Twitch (and UA-cam Live never took off), maybe the in-person E3 showcases would have lasted

  • @joshuaDstarks
    @joshuaDstarks Рік тому +1

    The internet happened, and social media made it to where companies didn’t have to blow millions just to show a trailer.
    We’ve all moved on from this circus.

  • @manuelthecolombianvyonder2544

    I wish I was born before 1965, so I can attend all of the E3s that were held in the Los Angeles Convention Center without any major money issues before the infamous COVID-19 pandemic happened!

  • @maximillianmarcosebastian880
    @maximillianmarcosebastian880 11 місяців тому

    18:50-18:55 - Annnd in late 2023 they pulled the plug. GGWP for E3.

  • @Gridlok
    @Gridlok Рік тому

    A 20 minute video to say what can be said in 2 words: The Internet.

  • @cryptopapii
    @cryptopapii Рік тому

    15:13 Is that Hollie? I miss Playstation Access now. Time to change channels :)

  • @HWOD
    @HWOD Рік тому +2

    I'm happy I was able to go to one

    • @TheAnonymousIndividual
      @TheAnonymousIndividual 6 місяців тому

      That's awesome, man. It was always a dream of mine to go to one but sadly, never got the chance and with it being discontinued forever, safe to say I won't. I have, at the very least, however, been to PAX East three times (2013, 2015, and 2017).
      Anyway, which year's E3 did you go to and did you attend everyday?

  • @heisensaul5538
    @heisensaul5538 Рік тому

    I like to think the Intellivision Amico helped kill E3. Tommy himself was thrilled about the honor of being part of something he paid for.

  • @rouvencocker
    @rouvencocker Рік тому +1

    E3 like blockbuster and dine in pizzahut, best things lost in my lifetime that my daughter will understand. 😢

    • @jackbates2223
      @jackbates2223 Рік тому

      If those 3 are the worst things youve lost in your life time then youve lived a sad life

    • @rouvencocker
      @rouvencocker Рік тому

      @@jackbates2223 your moms sad. 🤪

  • @thomasferraro479
    @thomasferraro479 Рік тому

    Steiner Math reference lol, I caught it

  • @lewisgrant7622
    @lewisgrant7622 Рік тому +1

    What went wrong. They became irrelevant because these game companies realised they could just stream their own events

  • @exocolt15
    @exocolt15 Рік тому

    I love how he be taking shots at everyone 😂😂😂

  • @j.a.weishaupt1748
    @j.a.weishaupt1748 Рік тому +3

    Two words: booth babes

  • @ichangedmyusernamebecausei2551

    Man it’s such bs e3 is practically gone now. It was the perfect way for me to start my summer. Seeing new games get announced and showcased all in one place where gamers can meet up with other gamers and explore and enjoy the event. Now the big 3 console companies and other gaming companies do their virtual showcases just to save money and time which I understand as a business student. But still e3 was like a holy event for gamers.

  • @kalasatwater2224
    @kalasatwater2224 Рік тому

    They hype was always greater than the actual event

  • @bharathsankaranarayanan
    @bharathsankaranarayanan Рік тому

    As an Indian gaming fan, I've always admired the allure of E3. Fortunately, I was able to attend the 2018 E3, before everything changed!

  • @alexisnaranjo
    @alexisnaranjo Рік тому

    They started to let in the public. That's where it went wrong. Forcing it to get bigger venue and fees, became a nuisance instead of a showcase for industry

  • @flouserschird
    @flouserschird Рік тому +1

    What went wrong? Livestreams happened.

  • @84bombsjetpack23
    @84bombsjetpack23 Рік тому +1

    Never understood why games have to be announced during game shows or events. Even the Nintendo Direct seems unnecessary. They could just announce things whenever, instead of waiting for a Direct.

  • @catriamflockentanz
    @catriamflockentanz Рік тому

    1:50 I heard many absurd claims concerning Navi over the years but comparing her to a world-spanning illness is going like 40 steps to far...

  • @lirpa5
    @lirpa5 Рік тому

    The gaming industry without a huge, bombastic, tentpole event like E3 is like the music industry with no Coachella or Grammys, the film industry with no Cannes or Oscars. The Gaming industry has nothing like that now. Some puny little Nintendo direct aint gonna fill that hole.

  • @johneaton3690
    @johneaton3690 Рік тому

    Company's pay $5M-$10M USD for a 30 second ad during the Super Bowl. $1.5M for a booth at the planets largest consumer electronics conference for 3 days? That to me sounds like a good business investment, >

  • @randydrew66
    @randydrew66 Рік тому +1

    Its so weird how people think the pandemic just ended.. Like covid is not still around

  • @TheMTwinny
    @TheMTwinny Рік тому

    Excellent video essay!
    Safe to assume the coronavirus pandemic was THE nail in the coffin for E3, otherwise the ESA would've kept the event on prolonged life support.

  • @jordanhazelwood2546
    @jordanhazelwood2546 Рік тому

    Hooray! It's a W4 about E3!

  • @d1halberdgnoll963
    @d1halberdgnoll963 Рік тому

    One look at the "entertainment" the game companies provided should tell you all you need to know. Especially the Ubisoft shows these last years. People ended up simply hatewatching the entire thing, because it sure as hell didn't provide any concrete and relevant info on games.

  • @ClassifiedRanTom
    @ClassifiedRanTom Рік тому

    How do they have all this money to burn on conventions, but not enough to pay their employees for overtime?!

  • @DJsleng06
    @DJsleng06 Рік тому +2

    Also "booth babes". Getting rid of the booth babes is the real reason why E3 is now defunct.