Fixing the Cargo Bike Speed Wobble - Urban Arrow, Bakfiets, Bullitt, and More

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  • Have you experienced the speed wobble on your urban arrow bakfiets or box cargo bike? Here are the things I check on the cargo bike before adjusting the fit and position of the ride.
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  • @michaeldusing8634
    @michaeldusing8634 3 роки тому +2

    Super informative! Thank you for sharing.

  • @kasiasedgwick6378
    @kasiasedgwick6378 2 роки тому +1

    So helpful. Thank you. I have an amazing local bike shop but it’s nice to be able to check things for myself at home. Also, I’m the only urban arrow owner in my area, so if my bike guy doesn’t know how to fix something he relies on videos like yours to give him a helping hand.

  • @travelingkaspersworld4096
    @travelingkaspersworld4096 3 роки тому +1

    Your video is great! Thanks. We managed this once on one of our Bullitts. Trying to go too fast, had a pilot up front and no one around....it was fun. The uneven pavement started the shimmy, slowed the bike down then resumed the craziness. We bought a bunch of the steering dampers ($115 US) but never mounted them on any of our bikes. If you are thinking of buying a long bike......buy it! They are great fun for the whole family and friends......and everyone gets used to riding. All aboard!

  • @seanpollock5954
    @seanpollock5954 Рік тому

    Super helpful, Thank you so much!

  • @MrBenadamdetto
    @MrBenadamdetto Рік тому

    Super helpful thank you

  • @stepvogel142
    @stepvogel142 3 роки тому +1

    Never had the problem before, but last week it happened. Thank you for the content, this is super helpful!

  • @tzed2509
    @tzed2509 2 роки тому +1

    Interesting headset, I didn't know about that one, thanks!

  • @michaelfalck-jernigan1410
    @michaelfalck-jernigan1410 3 роки тому +1

    Super helpful! Will go through your check on my UA Family. It started oscillating when going downhill - but only with charge in front, funny enough. always at around 30kmh or more.

  • @PaavoKotiaho
    @PaavoKotiaho 3 роки тому +2

    Wonderful and extremely useful video! Was able to solve our UA Family's wobble following these steps (it was the front headset, which makes sense considering the cobble-stone and up to 50kmh downhill section followed by hard braking in my daily communte). Will think of upgrading to the Cane Creek headset along the way.

  • @johnrose651
    @johnrose651 3 роки тому +8

    I was having this exact problem with an Urban Arrow I had on loan from Outback Bikes here in Atlanta. Every time I went over 15mph, especially downhill, the front wheel would start going bonkers. The short-term fix that worked for like a charm for me was to just loosen my grip on the handlebars. With a loose grip, I never saw the problem again.

  • @NightWhinnys
    @NightWhinnys 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks so much for this video! Helps a ton since our UA dealer is 2.5 hours away by car!

  • @kristicone6939
    @kristicone6939 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you!!! We've had our UA 2 weeks and have had this problem several times already when things are bumpy or when going more than 20mph. I went through your checklist and most of the bolts we're loose.
    I know you're working for Tern now but a video of what you check routinely for preventative maintenance and how frequently would be awesome!

    • @CargoBikeLifecom
      @CargoBikeLifecom  2 роки тому

      I'm working on a general cargo bike one.
      All the things listed in this video, plus brake pads and tire wear. 🙌🏼

  • @macpdm
    @macpdm 3 роки тому +1

    Some nylon insert self locking nuts or a drop of thread lock should also help. Stopped the side stand bolts on my Tern coming undone with threadlock

  • @rpjwhite
    @rpjwhite 3 роки тому +1

    Great episode. I would also point people in the direction of the Urban arrow speed damper too.

    • @CargoBikeLifecom
      @CargoBikeLifecom  3 роки тому +1

      I've seen a lot of premature headset bearing wear with those so I avoided using them, but it probably depends on use cases.

    • @rpjwhite
      @rpjwhite 3 роки тому

      @@CargoBikeLifecom I suppose it puts force on one side of the headset. Never thought of that

  • @miketenzer123
    @miketenzer123 2 роки тому

    Yay! So glad I found your channel! I'm in Miami Florida so I'm pretty sure I'm the only Urban arrow within 800 MI! I do see some of the other cargo bikes with the wooden chariots up front for dog or human kiddos. Mine was mainly for dog and car replacement. Great to see some relevant material I can refer to. Having my local bike shop gent to a major checkup overhaul and clean up since it's been sitting dormant for a bit. Can't wait to get that baby back all cleaned up and ready to resume my car light lifestyle :-) I saw the cover for 200 bucks! Have you a less expensive option I know I can get a motorcycle cover but I don't know which one I can get that's 8 ft long!

    • @jcardisco1
      @jcardisco1 Рік тому

      I'm in Tampa and ride my UA daily with the kids...a mere 280 miles from you :) I get stopped almost daily with people/drivers asking me about or commenting on the bike. My wife likes to bike behind me and watch the open mouths of drivers in opposite direction as they see our giant Shamu flying down the roads

  • @raymondbrick3453
    @raymondbrick3453 3 роки тому

    I had a bike (not a cargo bike)with a shimmying problem. Replacing the front tyre was the cure.

  • @alexfbo8393
    @alexfbo8393 2 роки тому +1

    wife is happy. thanks for all the info 💯💯

  • @fl0rinescu
    @fl0rinescu Рік тому

    one of the arrows at work has an issue with the steering whereby the wheel now turns 90° to the right and not enough to the left. is this adjusted from the top headset? would you be able to give some advice please. Thanks

  • @langhamp8912
    @langhamp8912 3 роки тому +1

    Looks up Bullitt front cargo bike. Gets this as the 3rd result...

  • @benjulian1
    @benjulian1 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the video! Do you know of a compatible front suspension fork for the Urban Arrow family?

    • @CargoBikeLifecom
      @CargoBikeLifecom  2 роки тому +1

      Due to the design of the bike frame and box, a suspension fork doesn’t fit.

  • @caricereddien9684
    @caricereddien9684 3 роки тому +1

    Interestingly I never have this on my OG Workcycles bakfiets (the Van Andel's build version). Even when (embarrassingly) my headset is loose or my ball joints are getting worn and I'm bombing downhill at 20+mph. And we almost never have people having this problem with the KR8. Something about the geometry of the UA (fork angle? Rake?) makes it more susceptible to this issue than other bakfietsen.

    • @CargoBikeLifecom
      @CargoBikeLifecom  3 роки тому

      It’s hard to say. I’ve heard of people with issues on most brands and believe it more has to do with build quality and riding experience

  • @bigwheelsturning
    @bigwheelsturning 2 роки тому

    You didn't mention and I didn't see you even checking the "run out" on the front rim to check for bad/loose front wheel bearings or if the rim is bent. Or if you have some loose spokes or broken ones in the front rim.

    • @CargoBikeLifecom
      @CargoBikeLifecom  2 роки тому

      That is a very uncommon thing. Sure it can happen but the speed wobble mentioned in this video will fix 98% of folks concerns.

    • @bigwheelsturning
      @bigwheelsturning 2 роки тому

      @@CargoBikeLifecom It's still something to check for and to tell people about.

  • @stephenmcelligott1996
    @stephenmcelligott1996 2 роки тому

    My wheel and handle bars are out of alignment on my urban arrow cargo. Is it a case of adjusting the swing arm to align them? I can't find any answers on the Internet.

    • @CargoBikeLifecom
      @CargoBikeLifecom  2 роки тому +1

      Thankfully it is an easy adjustment at the stem.
      Have someone stand at the front wheel to hold it straight, loosen the two bolts on the side of the stem (looks like a neck), straighten the handlebar, tighten. ua-cam.com/video/wH9hqY86CQQ/v-deo.html

    • @stephenmcelligott1996
      @stephenmcelligott1996 2 роки тому

      @@CargoBikeLifecom you mean loosen the bolts at the headset of the handle bars not the headset at the front wheel?

    • @CargoBikeLifecom
      @CargoBikeLifecom  2 роки тому +1

      @@stephenmcelligott1996 correct. To get straight steering you need to be adjusting the stem at the handlebars

    • @stephenmcelligott1996
      @stephenmcelligott1996 2 роки тому

      @@CargoBikeLifecom Great it worked perfect. After that some trial an error to get it just right. Thank again. 😊

    • @stephenmcelligott1996
      @stephenmcelligott1996 2 роки тому

      @@CargoBikeLifecom I was meaning to ask you if you've any videos on adjusting the brake tension on these urban arrows? Mine are soft to squeeze that I have to squeeze them pass the usually two finger rule. Is the brake tension on them different to the classic V brake system and is adjusting them difficult? 🤔

  • @bartholomewceremony6981
    @bartholomewceremony6981 2 роки тому

    Update: I disassembled the headset and the lower bearing assembly was damaged. Replaced it and test rode it to find it is good now. Thank you.

    • @CargoBikeLifecom
      @CargoBikeLifecom  2 роки тому

      Was there a screw in the frame that "tightens" the bearing? I see too often that blowing apart the headset.

    • @bartholomewceremony6981
      @bartholomewceremony6981 2 роки тому

      @@CargoBikeLifecom no mine is a standard. Headset. What happened i did not clean and grease them in the construction process. Got overlooked.

    • @bartholomewceremony6981
      @bartholomewceremony6981 2 роки тому

      @@CargoBikeLifecom photos.app.goo.gl/ejFqS7qboMD1A8Z1A. Its my fist construction and its mostly repurposed materials. It's still evolving as I take time to experiment with it and other "stuff"..

    • @bartholomewceremony6981
      @bartholomewceremony6981 2 роки тому

      @@CargoBikeLifecom photos.app.goo.gl/yWAqAuKmkgaHuVAGA

    • @bartholomewceremony6981
      @bartholomewceremony6981 2 роки тому

      @@CargoBikeLifecom if you look close you can see the rear wheel has gone from a 24"" to an electric 26"" I welded in gussets to accomadate it. You can see something sticking out of the top of the head set nut. That is a tow hitch locking pin that I extended to pass through the loops I welded to the fork legs allowing me to disable the front wheel . lock it. Im looking to do the rear too. It has a motion sensing loud alarm and GPS .