Thawne Has a Drink With Barry | The Flash 9x10 [HD]

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  • @badnoodlez
    @badnoodlez Рік тому +4597

    I love how thawne doesn't understand that he's already lost. Even when barry is completely honest with him later it still goes over his head.

    • @jb57551
      @jb57551 Рік тому

      That's because Thawne is a 😈Narcissist😈 that only cares about winning against Barry in every way!

    • @BlackFlightNY
      @BlackFlightNY Рік тому +358

      When Barry said “you will lose everything”- it was two fold
      Thawne loses in 2000, by getting cut off from the speedforce and stranded there, where he became Dr.Wells
      Also, “you will lose everything” could be a refrence to how he loses to Barry in 2023 after being used by the negative speed force

    • @rcomp99
      @rcomp99 Рік тому +176

      Exactly. He knows he can't end barry without ending himself. With no barry, Thawne never finds out about speedsters and how to become one, and thus never becomes one.

    • @Cosmicmorales
      @Cosmicmorales Рік тому +34

      @@rcomp99 bootstrap paradox.

    • @byonemesis
      @byonemesis Рік тому +27

      ​@@BlackFlightNYThere's a third one : his death from "Negative, Part Two". Subtle but true.

  • @ergob3907
    @ergob3907 Рік тому +3886

    Grant and Matt have great chemistry. Wish they had more scenes together.

    • @Cosmicmorales
      @Cosmicmorales Рік тому +291

      IM SAYING, AND MFS THINK TOM IS BETTER, MATT BARELY GOT A CHANCE

    • @wyattlundrigan4740
      @wyattlundrigan4740 Рік тому +312

      ​@@Cosmicmorales You're 100% right. Tom's version of thawne is overused and extremely nonsensical, especially at this point.

    • @GOKU-px7qd
      @GOKU-px7qd Рік тому +149

      @@Cosmicmorales agree tom is brilliant but matt isn't any less, whenever he comes he does make the show intense. ngl people say tom is better because of how many characters he can act

    • @JACQUEZJOHNSON23
      @JACQUEZJOHNSON23 Рік тому +8

      ​@@Cosmicmorales perfect said

    • @erg1947
      @erg1947 Рік тому +42

      ​@@CosmicmoralesI never really got that, Matt was always great as Thawne whenever he got the chance to play him.

  • @nathanbrownlee9276
    @nathanbrownlee9276 Рік тому +4350

    This was a pretty great scene.
    You can really see how Barry changes his tone after realizing that this is the original Thawne that went back in time to kill him as a child.
    Barry knows exactly what’s about to happen and seems almost sad about it.
    Thawne is sitting there thinking it’s because he finally beat the Flash, when its actually quite the reverse.

    • @GZilla311
      @GZilla311 Рік тому +361

      Was that pun intended

    • @nathanbrownlee9276
      @nathanbrownlee9276 Рік тому +434

      @@GZilla311 fuck yeah it was

    • @taserblaizer377
      @taserblaizer377 Рік тому +46

      Nice!

    • @GZilla311
      @GZilla311 Рік тому +51

      @@nathanbrownlee9276well done.

    • @mad_titanthanos
      @mad_titanthanos Рік тому +36

      I don't get it. How come it's the original Thawne from 2024 Because he acts like he knows this current Barry (wife and child reference). Also, didn't Thawne just arrive at night right from the future? Why is he here hours ago?

  • @JoelMiller431
    @JoelMiller431 Рік тому +3232

    Just... For real WHY couldn't we have more of this rivalry between Barry and Matt Letscher's Thawne?!?!

    • @Spacemanfilms2002
      @Spacemanfilms2002 Рік тому +503

      Cause CW has this weird obsession with Tom and was never ever able to let him go

    • @e.v.g3926
      @e.v.g3926 Рік тому +216

      Tom Cavanagh is more cheaper

    • @Spacemanfilms2002
      @Spacemanfilms2002 Рік тому +142

      @@e.v.g3926 yeah we could tell

    • @lumen3dits
      @lumen3dits Рік тому +52

      i think if the last few episodes maintain this level of quality it could redeem itself

    • @thelegendarymarioman8461
      @thelegendarymarioman8461 Рік тому +210

      He should have been the main Thawne since season 2

  • @biglenni9486
    @biglenni9486 Рік тому +2592

    The Flash has over 180 episodes and Matt's Thawne has only been in 8 of them. Even worse he was basically giving 'villain of the week' status only being the main threat in 3 of the 8 episodes he was in. It's such a shame we couldn't get more of him. Matt and Grant have really good chemistry.

    • @psychoapplesauceeater8562
      @psychoapplesauceeater8562 Рік тому +219

      He was the best in Legends

    • @Tradetek1
      @Tradetek1 Рік тому +141

      That is true, he wasn’t in flash very much but he always made a big impact every time he was in it. We did get an entire season with him as the main villain in legends of tomorrow though.

    • @OneGaurdian
      @OneGaurdian Рік тому +94

      They underused him. What I really wish they had shown was his story from the beginning in the original timeline. There was story there.

    • @ulysses4989
      @ulysses4989 Рік тому +47

      Matt is the best reverse flash/eobard thawne.

    • @Gaid152
      @Gaid152 Рік тому +33

      @@OneGaurdian Making him antagonist of a season or story would've wasted that chemistry. Bringing him in brought our radars on point like this scene and we knew something serious for the characters was going definitely going down.

  • @robertofabrizioiparraguirr6038
    @robertofabrizioiparraguirr6038 Рік тому +1574

    Knowing he's driving Barry nuts its the best thing to happen to him

    • @oluwaseyirahaman1230
      @oluwaseyirahaman1230 Рік тому +24

      Totally read that as "driving Barry's nuts"

    • @The_Lovey_Informer
      @The_Lovey_Informer Рік тому +3

      Rule34 lmao

    • @endangeredspecies8441
      @endangeredspecies8441 Рік тому +20

      Except he isn’t. Barry has full knowledge of how this ends. Thawne is convinced he’s there to stop him; when in reality he’s already at peace with this canon event. Thawne will ultimately lose. He can have this battle.

  • @aaronmehaffey6251
    @aaronmehaffey6251 Рік тому +664

    So glad they brought Matt back one last time as Eobard. He's so good in the role.

    • @claymathewselevator8121
      @claymathewselevator8121 Рік тому +20

      He’s my favorite

    • @nikkimiddlekillsday5161
      @nikkimiddlekillsday5161 11 місяців тому +7

      He is how we should've seen Thawne after we found out who he really was

    • @madfilms1000
      @madfilms1000 10 місяців тому +11

      I feel like for the time line it makes more sense for Matt to play thawne in this episode because at this point thawne hasn’t stolen well’s identity yet

  • @NeonKue
    @NeonKue Рік тому +272

    0:40 This is when Barry realizes...this isn't the most recent Eobard Thawne. It's the pre-S1 Eobard Thawne that doesn't even know how his plan to kill younger Barry fails.

  • @NateThurlow
    @NateThurlow Рік тому +599

    The best thing is that Barry knows where this is all going. He's playing Thawne from the beginning

    • @Pumipimababababa
      @Pumipimababababa Рік тому +28

      its like a yin yang. they need eachother to live (not in a gay way)

    • @byonemesis
      @byonemesis Рік тому +37

      ​@@PumipimababababaA fact acknowledged by Eobard Thawne himself. Or rather, his comic's counterpart...since he needs Barry to become Flash in order for him to become Reverse-Flash.

    • @Homelander57
      @Homelander57 9 місяців тому +3

      @@Pumipimababababayou had to make it though

    • @spiderrocket8367
      @spiderrocket8367 8 місяців тому +14

      It's not even playing Barry already knows what he has to do. And he's being genuine when he tells Thawne that he wants him to walk away and get on with his life. Barry has grown to such level of compassion that he even wants to help the man who will ruin his childhood just because he could

    • @JulianGijsen555
      @JulianGijsen555 Місяць тому

      You missed a lot

  • @90snickshows84
    @90snickshows84 Рік тому +1395

    Bruh see this is why Matt should have been Thawne after season 1 he just oozes menace and ego naturally just from these interactions. Notice how after season 6 Barry stopped letting Cavanagh’s Thawne get under his skin even after creating a Reverse Flashpoint Barry still managed to remain calm in their interactions but Matt’s Thawne? Boy this man just knows how to push his buttons without even trying

    • @DesignIncase
      @DesignIncase Рік тому +143

      Wellosbard is a very emotional version of Thawne. Heck he may not even be human anymore given what he's done to his body and how he existed after being removed from the timeline.
      Barry for the most part isn't as familiar with this version of Thawne. Due to all the Well's he's met. He's forgiven the face.

    • @Souchi-ito
      @Souchi-ito Рік тому +38

      He'd develop resistance to this face too if he saw him too much.

    • @saminhuq7757
      @saminhuq7757 11 місяців тому +5

      To be fair, Barry was acting for a good part of the scene (and beyond).

    • @magmaticgames
      @magmaticgames 11 місяців тому +23

      Matt encompased Thawne's ego and arrogance brilliantly, while Tom showed Thawne's patience and cunning. You just can't have one without the other.

    • @henrypeters5291
      @henrypeters5291 10 місяців тому +16

      @@magmaticgames Perfectly put. They played two different characters and Barry had to treat them differently. That is something the later seasons' writers forgot.

  • @mikailb5031
    @mikailb5031 Рік тому +953

    if matt and tom switched turns every other episode after season one or so, it would've made things super interesting because each time barry would be confornted with two different versions that only wish to torture him. Would be even cooler if each season or so they'd teamed up to mess barry up.

    • @jb57551
      @jb57551 Рік тому +41

      Wanna make it better? What if Barry met both Thawnes with a 3rd one wearing Henry/Eddie's face?

    • @notj7506
      @notj7506 Рік тому +17

      nah cuz the blonde thawne is the one from before he goes back in time to kill him as a child. The "wells" thawne is from after, some point between when he took over wells body and before eddy killed himself

    • @mikailb5031
      @mikailb5031 Рік тому +4

      @@jb57551 oooooooh

    • @mikailb5031
      @mikailb5031 Рік тому +1

      @@notj7506 I was referring more to if they had written a completely different story/script than they did for seasons 2-9. The story would be totally different so yeah it definitely wouldn't be possible with story we got.

    • @notj7506
      @notj7506 Рік тому +1

      @@mikailb5031 i prefer the way they currently use thawne but I do however understand your point

  • @roadrage1979
    @roadrage1979 Рік тому +260

    The moment when Barry realizes this is the original Thawne…love it!

    • @troyheliodore
      @troyheliodore 3 місяці тому +3

      Which is weird cuz this thwane is from a time where Barry's parents were alive , so how does he know what this Barry been through?

    • @j0doe1
      @j0doe1 3 місяці тому

      ​@@troyheliodore It's never actually stated that Barry's parents were alive in the future. We just assumed they were. What Thawne said is probably true, Nora's death is a fixed point in time. We see that when that fixed point is prevented; Barry doesn't even become The Flash.

    • @redhood444
      @redhood444 2 місяці тому +2

      @@j0doe1the entire show is ran on an alternate timeline which thawne created by killing Nora which makes it a fixed point. The original timeline his mom lived and Barry still became flash but in 2020 not 2014. Reverse flash ends up coming to fight Barry around 2023 and in 2024 he finds out who the flash is and realizes he can time travel back to when Barry was a kid and kill him. That’s why at the end of season 1 we see multiple flashes in the house that night one of them is Barry who caused flashpoint and keeps himself from saving his mom. Thawne whole plan that night was to kill Barry not Nora he only killed her because original Timeline Barry who we never met saved himself

    • @JulianGijsen555
      @JulianGijsen555 Місяць тому

      🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️

    • @JulianGijsen555
      @JulianGijsen555 Місяць тому

      ​@@troyheliodoreyou missed a lot

  • @AutoRevLife
    @AutoRevLife Рік тому +73

    I don't think Thawne realizes that this isn't the same Barry he has a history with. Because there's so much more backstory implied here that we've never seen

    • @mattb6369
      @mattb6369 День тому +1

      For OG-Thawne he's only had a few conflicts with Barry by this point, the distant future when a time travelled Flash "ruined" his life by stopping a catastrophe he wanted to, 2x10-2x11 when Eobard comes back to early 2016 when he still doesn't know his identity to meet Team Flash, and the original 2024 Crisis he seems bound to before going back to the past for this day.

  • @jamiefletcher3186
    @jamiefletcher3186 Рік тому +289

    I never expected to see them having a drink together. It’s so weird, yet kinda funny 😂

    • @Lollipop.er42
      @Lollipop.er42 Рік тому +28

      I also love how at times he would act like there good friends to suddenly being even more cruel then Wellsobard! (Making Barry admit Eobard won)

    • @jamiefletcher3186
      @jamiefletcher3186 Рік тому +6

      @@Lollipop.er42 jokes on him though in the end, ha

    • @alexanderdumas-
      @alexanderdumas- Рік тому +7

      Yeah he was enjoying that bud light a little too much

  • @JoelMiller431
    @JoelMiller431 Рік тому +685

    "You win. I can't stop you."
    I'm sorry, but I don't even think Wellsobard went that far to Barry in their rivalry. Just Thawne forcing Barry to admit he can't beat him... WOW

    • @ergob3907
      @ergob3907 Рік тому +91

      Flashpoint had a great moment of Thawne forcing Barry to grovel to kill his own mother.

    • @wyattlundrigan4740
      @wyattlundrigan4740 Рік тому +60

      Matt's thawne is way better than wellsobard. He should have been playing the character all the time instead of thawne. It would have made more sense and obviously would be just better in general.

    • @Cosmicmorales
      @Cosmicmorales Рік тому +15

      I mean in a sense he's right, both him and Thawne are an endless paradox.

    • @kurtjeffrey8273
      @kurtjeffrey8273 Рік тому +5

      ​@@wyattlundrigan4740 the season 5 reverse flash is goat

    • @jeepamir508
      @jeepamir508 Рік тому +20

      The thing is... While, true, Barry cannot stop him. But it's not because he "can't" stop Eobard, he can. The real thing is Barry knew what was going to happen. What needed to happen.
      This moment of him admitting that Eobard has won is Barry finally accepting Reverse Flash actions (killing his mom) in making Barry who he really is.

  • @nateborie6329
    @nateborie6329 Рік тому +177

    In this moment, Barry found the peace he's been searching for this entire time. The idea that he can stop Thawne from taking his mother away from him was a fool's errand, so rather than attempt to stop him, he allowed events to play their part.

    • @NaijaBeats12
      @NaijaBeats12 Рік тому +23

      EXACTLY!!! That's what people are missing!! Great catch!!!

    • @theoutsiderjess4869
      @theoutsiderjess4869 2 місяці тому +3

      Full circle baby just took 9 seasons for Barry to get it

  • @jt6924
    @jt6924 Рік тому +126

    Now *that* is Eobard Thawne! Not Wellsobard.

    • @shadowx8145
      @shadowx8145 Рік тому +11

      U ain't the same person who like "wellsobard. All u fanboys acting brand new all of a sudden

    • @Jonathanspetduck
      @Jonathanspetduck Рік тому +14

      @@shadowx8145 relax bud

  • @anthonystrader8958
    @anthonystrader8958 Рік тому +144

    Grant and Matt just have good chemistry together
    really wished we could of gotten more of this duo.

    • @gamermixy.t3664
      @gamermixy.t3664 11 місяців тому +1

      Yes !! I love Matt lesture reverse flash more than Tom cavannach,

    • @user-cj6bn5ym2o
      @user-cj6bn5ym2o 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@gamermixy.t3664 so am I.

  • @nikhardoshi9486
    @nikhardoshi9486 Рік тому +262

    THIS SCENE IS SO GREAT!!! Every single moment if you think from Barry's pov you realize how he is coming to accept everything that is about to happen. He understands his role in this time, he sees Eobard's role and realizes how he is going to terribly fail AND how everything is going to start from this point. Grant's acting, Matt's acting and this scene are just 🤌🤌🤌

  • @JiraiyaSama86
    @JiraiyaSama86 Рік тому +87

    Thawne probably interpreted it as Barry walking towards his funeral. Hence, that face at the end. I kind of get a sense of respect that he felt for Barry. Choosing to walk towards his end? He recognized strength and probably that fed further into his jealousy. He recognized courage. And yet....

  • @RP-zl5ix
    @RP-zl5ix Рік тому +348

    Both RF from Tom and Matt are great . Tom played the conflicted RF that both hates and loves the Flash family extremely great. He is someone that is mature , calculating and rarely makes mistakes or slip ups due to his experience. He constantly outplayed Team Flash in his 4D chess play.
    Matt on the other hand depicted the ruthless , psychotic, impulsive and immature side of a younger RF extremely well.
    It's CW that made the mistake of using Tom's RF in story parts where Matt's RF would have fit better. They should adapted the script so that it fits Tom's RF more.
    For example Tom's RF fit the whole Nora arc well because they needed some sort of father figure / mentor for Nora which I can't see Matt play.
    On the other end however last seasons Eobard and Crisis on Earth X's Eobard would have worked better with Matt's RF because he is more psychotic , ruthless and has the flaw to overestimate himself due to his youth.
    There is a key difference between both RF.
    Tom's RF has a psychological hold over Barry because he was one of his father figures and mentor. He made him what he is. His betrayal cut very deep into Barry which gives Tom's RF a position of superiority in their encounters.
    With Matt's RF the roles are reversed. Matt's RF feels inferior to Barry. Barry is everything he has ever dreamed of being which is why he is much more suceptible to anger and rage which results in constant failure. Barry is here the one with the psychological advantage.

    • @byonemesis
      @byonemesis Рік тому +10

      You said everything clearly.✌️✌️✌️

    • @doodoo5594
      @doodoo5594 Рік тому +30

      that’s why i prefer matt’s tbh, it feels much more like he believes his pettiness is actually justified, tom’s eobard should’ve just wanted to go home, his demeanour didn’t fit his later actions at all, he was always calculated but now he’s spent 17 years undercover, the fact that he’s more bombastic later on than matt’s eobard just doesn’t make sense for his character, i do think tom was right for the nora storyline though

    • @RP-zl5ix
      @RP-zl5ix Рік тому +12

      @@doodoo5594 Exactly! Couldn't have said it better. Old RF was tired from his own tantrums and has seemingly matured. In the end of S1 he no longer cared about their rivalry. He was willing to create his rival just to get home.
      Him trying to join Nazis in world conquest when he could have gone home makes no sense

    • @tobsonasanya4765
      @tobsonasanya4765 Рік тому +4

      @@RP-zl5ix to be fair in season 1 he inherited some if Wells personalit and was not really connected to the negative speed force

    • @doodoo5594
      @doodoo5594 Рік тому +6

      @@tobsonasanya4765 i never said they weren’t the same character, in fact my whole point is that they’re meant to be the same character, but they don’t feel like it in the later seasons

  • @nicktroisi6347
    @nicktroisi6347 Рік тому +596

    Thawne is such a petty little man and I love it. The tension between these two was so awesome to watch
    This is one of the greatest episodes of the series by far

    • @judgedredd2039
      @judgedredd2039 Рік тому +12

      Its funny because his Pettiness would ultimately dooms him.

    • @nicktroisi6347
      @nicktroisi6347 Рік тому +12

      @@judgedredd2039yep, if only he had listened to Barry and left, unfortunately Nora’s death is a fixed point, however Thawne got what he deserved being trapped and and without his speed

    • @nnamdiuyalorjr2896
      @nnamdiuyalorjr2896 Рік тому +2

      @@nicktroisi6347 Agreed.

  • @anthonydavis2663
    @anthonydavis2663 Рік тому +95

    “I wanna hear you say it.”season 3 reference

    • @rosado674
      @rosado674 Рік тому +20

      Oh yes, that is right. It was when Eobard was kept in a cell asking him to say this...😮

    • @Lollipop.er42
      @Lollipop.er42 Рік тому +8

      THIS is why he is the best thawne. He’s sadistic and not someone who screams when he’s won

    • @tobsonasanya4765
      @tobsonasanya4765 Рік тому +2

      @@Lollipop.er42 both versions do that

    • @GSG02590
      @GSG02590 3 місяці тому

      The resolve Barry has not to reach across the table and not strangle the life out of him, or lock him inside a makeshift prison.

    • @rahuld.2015
      @rahuld.2015 2 місяці тому

      Speaking of season 3...what really happened to season 3 Eobard after he got killed by black flash?

  • @penuelodiaka6359
    @penuelodiaka6359 Рік тому +38

    Imagine if, after Barry said "I know, I can run towards it," Thawne thinks "Wait what? Ok now _his_ goals are beyond my understanding"

  • @alexanderhussussian5653
    @alexanderhussussian5653 Рік тому +90

    Nothing like a drink with your arch nemesis

  • @RastaGamesful
    @RastaGamesful Рік тому +84

    Really love how they comeback Matt as OG Reverse Flash that's perfect...
    Really good episode.

    • @piratealoomuere934
      @piratealoomuere934 Рік тому +10

      They had to, cause this is thawne before meeting harrison wells so he couldnt have his face.

    • @SatoreyGojo
      @SatoreyGojo Рік тому

      @@piratealoomuere934 never stopped them before actually scratch that I cant keep up with where wells rf timeline is

    • @piratealoomuere934
      @piratealoomuere934 Рік тому

      @@SatoreyGojo He is just a time remnant, brought by the negative speedforce every time he gets defeated.

    • @theoutsiderjess4869
      @theoutsiderjess4869 2 місяці тому

      ​@@SatoreyGojo I think s5 matt was busy at the time so they did a hybrid thing

  • @toddschouweiler3623
    @toddschouweiler3623 Рік тому +38

    Thawne having a glass of beer in his hand seemed appropriate, since he always did seem like someone who was drunk with power.

    • @jayden8357
      @jayden8357 Рік тому +9

      Delicious

    • @darkassassinkantafly
      @darkassassinkantafly 7 місяців тому +3

      And having Barry, someone who has the same potential to get equally drunk with power, refusing to drink.
      It's probably not intentional by the writers, but it's still a cool metaphor none the less.

  • @dacaba
    @dacaba Рік тому +87

    This scene it's everything

  • @eshaandwivedi4921
    @eshaandwivedi4921 Рік тому +17

    Thawne saying “delicious” should become a meme to be honest.

  • @hydrodrift
    @hydrodrift Рік тому +33

    I like it when Barry and Thawne talk to each other instead of trying to rip each other’s throats out.

  • @AndrewUchiha4747
    @AndrewUchiha4747 Рік тому +16

    Now THIS Thawne. This Thawne actually scares me.
    He’s way more arrogant and brutal compared to HR Thawne.
    He faces the heroes head on and dares them to try something. This is no coward

  • @timelessr9407
    @timelessr9407 Рік тому +41

    This scene was meticulous crafted, probably the best scene of the season. It’s like they put all their effort into one scene and take bathroom breaks through the rest

  • @raggedrec
    @raggedrec Рік тому +41

    Flash writers/showrunners the real villains they robbed of this amazing duo for 9 seasons

  • @paydo7719
    @paydo7719 Рік тому +49

    Barry knows everything...thawne has no idea what he's doing to himself,briliant!!!

  • @papetv9864
    @papetv9864 Рік тому +71

    Why did they waste the whole season and make it trash but actually make the last few episodes good😂💀

  • @sixg
    @sixg Рік тому +455

    They wasted matt letscher 😔 he should have been main thawne since season 2

    • @jaydenwilson8371
      @jaydenwilson8371 Рік тому +24

      Yea tbh

    • @thelegendarymarioman8461
      @thelegendarymarioman8461 Рік тому +16

      Honestly yes

    • @SnowyTundra
      @SnowyTundra Рік тому +26

      imo tom had was better at being terrifying af

    • @dbztranks6601
      @dbztranks6601 Рік тому +18

      Every appearances should've been a different one time tom one time matt just to mess with barry

    • @ergob3907
      @ergob3907 Рік тому +16

      Legends of Tomorrow Season 3 uses him a lot but yeah

  • @RightBoyKA-POW
    @RightBoyKA-POW Рік тому +32

    Imagine being stuck on an island with the person you hate the most.
    That's basically how this feels.

    • @arfhat89
      @arfhat89 Рік тому +3

      Island, you say? Oliver would know the feeling

    • @farscape1714
      @farscape1714 Рік тому +2

      Like Marriage.

  • @strage_6182
    @strage_6182 Рік тому +34

    It feels like we're in 2014 watching the 1st season of this great (for whose time) show!!! Love Matt's and Grant's chemistry

  • @exknight39
    @exknight39 Рік тому +42

    Love to see Matt as Thawne. Wished we had more of him

    • @claymathewselevator8121
      @claymathewselevator8121 Рік тому +5

      He was great on Legends and as an anti hero as well

    • @Cosmicmorales
      @Cosmicmorales Рік тому +1

      ^

    • @rickyhuynh4641
      @rickyhuynh4641 Місяць тому

      Bizarro: Im you. only but Bizarre.
      Reverse Flash: Im you. only but reverse.
      Bizarro is the clone of Clark Kent/Kal El. He has bad grammar or speech. Reverse Flash could have been Barry allen's clone. His name is Allen Barrick, named after Barry and Garrick, not some time traveler named Eobard Thawne. Savitar is actually a clone of Barry allen.

  • @justinc882
    @justinc882 Рік тому +45

    Man Thawne is such a great villain. The stuff with him in it is so good. Wish the show hadn't gone so stupid in later seasons.

  • @johnstevenson1861
    @johnstevenson1861 Рік тому +25

    This was the day Thawn created a hell of his own making. Stuck in a long endless cycle while every other Barry is finding ways to move forward. No matter how many times Thawn says he wins he still loses. Thanks to anyone who reads this.

  • @LCNighthawk
    @LCNighthawk Рік тому +19

    The final arc it’s the beginning of the flash now that’s iconic

  • @EpicBeard815
    @EpicBeard815 Рік тому +24

    Wild how they got two great performances out of a single character

  • @lessermook7608
    @lessermook7608 Рік тому +4

    "You seem tense, i really think you should try it- "
    Always the jokester.

  • @U-A-V
    @U-A-V Рік тому +306

    Jesus did they hire new writers for the final arc
    This aged like milk

    • @BobJTMarts
      @BobJTMarts Рік тому +20

      Hahahahha honestly

    • @VenomtheOne
      @VenomtheOne Рік тому +37

      too little, too late.

    • @nazomius7033
      @nazomius7033 Рік тому +53

      This was likely planned since Season One. It doesn’t change the fact that this show has sucked for years.

    • @moosenothuman
      @moosenothuman Рік тому +12

      ​@@nazomius7033 doubt, i think its a completely different writing staff now

    • @jumpcutfilms1958
      @jumpcutfilms1958 Рік тому +14

      I think they just hired writers in general

  • @ianr.navahuber2195
    @ianr.navahuber2195 Рік тому +11

    0:37 Barry: "Interesting.... you are THAT Thawne"
    It will always be funny how THIS Thawne (Matt Letscher's version), was the one who was said to have fought Barry many times before (from Thawne's perspective), before earning barry's identity and acting his plan of "trying to kill barry as a child" (that would leave him stuck in the past and set into the path of becoming tom cavanagh's reverse flash) but we never actually saw that.
    Only in S2 EP 11, where we saw Thawne meeting Barry for the first time (from his perspective).
    Which is such a shame. Matt's Reverse flash was more an enemy of the legends than barry.
    It would have been interesting having matt's reverse flash be a co-villain of a season, him orchestrating attacks from the shadows (as him being objectively slower than barry, would force him to rely on cunning to defeat him), until finally learning barry's secret identity. ending the season with him declaring he will go back in time to kill barry as a kid (thus seeing almost all of the events leading to the series premiere)

    • @preciousotoakhia9789
      @preciousotoakhia9789 10 місяців тому +4

      💯💯💯Agreed this should be thawne from season 2

  • @Goldharted
    @Goldharted Рік тому +11

    That’s OUR FLASH! INDOMITABLE AND FOWARD MOVING THROUGH, NO MATTER WHAT! 3:04

  • @byonemesis
    @byonemesis Рік тому +32

    What's even scarier is that this Reverse-Flash didn't do anything yet disguised as Harrison Wells, and yet, he knows what he had done to Barry so...I'm now sure he knows EVERYTHING just like his comics counterpart (he remembered EVERY deaths, EVERY changes).

    • @nemoisblue
      @nemoisblue Рік тому +8

      he knows the timeline being from the future and having the records, but to experience the events first hand as they lay out is another thing :v

    • @byonemesis
      @byonemesis Рік тому +7

      ​@@nemoisblueIndeed...And yet, that's how he pulled EVERY conflicts in the comics, including the Flash Wars. He even went as far as making Hunter Zolomon becoming Zoom and August Heart becoming Godspeed. That's how scary Eobard Thawne can be...

    • @redtech4798
      @redtech4798 Рік тому +2

      He met Barry in S2 prior, I suspect he fought with Barry maybe a year from now or something. Somehow he learned Barry's identity though

    • @byonemesis
      @byonemesis Рік тому +2

      @@redtech4798 That was his very first encounter with Flash, but he didn't know his identity back then. That's only when he returned to his time and fought a future version of Barry that he continued to dig some research about who the Flash is and he found out eventually.

    • @redtech4798
      @redtech4798 Рік тому +1

      @@byonemesis no lmao he was a flash fanboy he was obsessed with him, he did all the research he could but as we learn from s5 the flash museum is wrong and incorrect abt many things. Its obvious bc if u look at flashpoint he says that they have to correct time by killing barry's mom, that only makes sense if killing barry's mom is a fixed point like we're told.
      If the og timeline was ever true it was retconned by s2, and i don't think it was bc the newspaper is from this timeline not another one, as it changes when THIS BARRY loses powers.

  • @slackstarfish8133
    @slackstarfish8133 Рік тому +8

    This dynamic has always been the best part of the entire show

  • @anosvoldigoat666
    @anosvoldigoat666 Рік тому +8

    man i really wanted a it was me barry monologue

  • @jeremiahjohnson4981
    @jeremiahjohnson4981 Рік тому +6

    Eobard Thawne is the new definition of a Time travelling Serial Killer, he even sounds like one when he talks about his "Parental get together".

  • @christopherstone4336
    @christopherstone4336 Рік тому +4

    Thawnes face at the end. I wonder if he just started having doubt.

  • @Montesama314
    @Montesama314 8 місяців тому +5

    Eobard believes this will be his greatest victory.
    But some will say... It's the reverse.

    • @nahimm
      @nahimm 7 місяців тому

      I’m dead 😭

  • @arielc.9081
    @arielc.9081 Рік тому +51

    The way they portrayed this is amazing actually because usually Thawn is the smarter of the two being from the future he usually knows everything that has and will happen but what makes this episode so special is that this is but Barry's last time meeting thawn while also being time he meets the youngest thawn possible.. meaning this thawn is young and dumb. Barry's warms him and instead of taking the word of the guy who not only doesn't really lie but is from the future so he would know. The last time this Thawn saw Barry was the oldest possible Barry. It's the 'The Time Traveler's Wife', (good show) in this shooter man who lives traveling accidently back in forth through time as he gets older always meeting the love of his life at different ages. There's a point in their lives where the oldest version of himself is sent back to the time where his wife was her youngest self, a little girl. Barry is now that old man and Thawn is that little girl

    • @lamentslounge
      @lamentslounge Рік тому +6

      the youngest is not this guy , this one is after thawn came in season 2 even harry says it that this is where he learns who the flash is and who harrision wells is , also this barry is younger than his becasue all of the events happen sooner than they were supposed to his barry was mid 30s our barry i early 30s

  • @satan6390
    @satan6390 10 місяців тому +4

    Thawne looks like he came a little bit when he heard that😂😂

  • @TDKiller415
    @TDKiller415 9 місяців тому +4

    These two shared so little screentime together in 9 seasons that this one scene was like Al Pacino and Robert De Niro in the restaurant in Heat

  • @kalorakalora
    @kalorakalora 11 місяців тому +6

    Man, Matt Letscher makes this show so much better. I havent even watched in years but will still click on some of his scenes when they pop up. Wish they would've used him more, he brings out the best of the show. Legends season 2 was also the only really solid season, because once again, Matt Letscher

  • @brycetheman3076
    @brycetheman3076 Рік тому +56

    didn’t thawne go back into time to kill young barry during a fight where they traveled back into time moments before

    • @TheFijianInquisitor
      @TheFijianInquisitor Рік тому +10

      I think this is that same Thawne

    • @wyattlundrigan4740
      @wyattlundrigan4740 Рік тому +35

      Yeah, but it's different here. Instead he was just spending the entire day in this exact day before he decides to kill young Barry, whereas in season 1 both him and the og flash came out of a time portal moments before young Barry is tucked in by his parents.

    • @90snickshows84
      @90snickshows84 Рік тому +10

      @@wyattlundrigan4740 yea but because the timeline changed and the crisis happened back in 2019 the night had to happen differently

  • @AkshatSTR8EDGE
    @AkshatSTR8EDGE Рік тому +13

    Pretty great acting, Barry is so mature and tired at this point, he has given up and accepted that eobard is a tormented soul that cannot be saved. He gave his last shot and yet eobard is just too deranged.

  • @carlosparga8378
    @carlosparga8378 Рік тому +10

    Now who’s the villain Flash, Now who’s the villain!

  • @shoazdon7000
    @shoazdon7000 Рік тому +19

    I think they definitely underused Matts thawne but Toms thawne was just as good. Especially in season 1. It’s just a shame we didn’t get to see more of Matt

    • @geminiandromeda8082
      @geminiandromeda8082 10 місяців тому +3

      Tom's Reverse Flash stopped being interesting after S1, after that he's the most generic ass dude with the "I'm gonna kill you and your friends mentality"
      Except maybe for Armageddon but even that was stupid af

  • @PhantasmalDemon
    @PhantasmalDemon Рік тому +4

    All he had to say was "I forgive you" and Thawne would have exploded in confusion

  • @mysterbullbox5198
    @mysterbullbox5198 Рік тому +4

    I thought he was going to say : you can't walk away without finishingyour beer cause i paid for it"

  • @jumpcutfilms1958
    @jumpcutfilms1958 Рік тому +8

    Damn I really can't tell who I prefer playing Thawne, Tom and Matt are both so good in their own unique ways

  • @DMobi
    @DMobi Рік тому +9

    For the people talking about Matt's role as Reverse Flash, if it means anything he did great job in season 2 of Legends of Tomorrow.

  • @ceilingfanenthusiast6041
    @ceilingfanenthusiast6041 11 місяців тому +6

    Man I really loved Matt Lescher's thawne. He really felt like Reverse Flash. Petty, crazy, charismatic, genius. Tom Caneagh was incredibly in season 1 and I liked him in season 5, but I really wish all of the other reverse flash scenes had been Matt. I mean for one it would have made more sense.

  • @AtlantaHoodHistorian
    @AtlantaHoodHistorian Рік тому +2

    Thawne said DELICIOUS 😂

  • @jonatasdanielgomesdossanto538
    @jonatasdanielgomesdossanto538 Рік тому +7

    Imagine the scene a Super-Hero and his Greatest Arch-Enemy drinking together in a bar or in a coffee shop and talking as if they were best friends like you the clear tension of anger between the two but one of them is sarcastic and provocative (The Villain) like can you imagine happening with Batman and the Joker or Superman and Lex Luthor maybe with Captain America and the Red Skull or Spider-Man and the Green Goblin it would be super awesome.

  • @spider-man8795
    @spider-man8795 Рік тому +5

    What I noticed here is when Barry speaks to Thawne about not killing him as a child earlier he says at the 2:00 minute mark why he says why couldn't Thawne just wiped him off the face of the Earth. I just thought it was a nice callback to season 1's finale where in that episode Thawne's locked up in the pipeline and tells Barry why he killed his mother that night and he says similar words to what season 9 Barry had just said to Thawne in the year 2000. Honestly, this episode wasn't just the best episode of the season but the episode of all time. Really liked how everything came full circle and we saw the events of the night from Season 9's Barry POV. I know there are theories of him being the Original timeline flash but to be fair in my opinion this is just the post-crisis version of the March 18, 2000 fight.

  • @MrDCWood
    @MrDCWood 11 місяців тому +5

    As much as I love the chemistry between Grant and Tom Cavanagh’s rendition of Thawne, I love the interactions between Grant and Matt Letscher even more. If for no other reason than their confrontations were rarer throughout the show’s run.
    Matt was every bit as malevolent, menacing and sinister as Tom was in the role in the Reverse Flash, and his contributions to why Thawne was the Arrowverse’s greatest villain cannot be overlooked. Not just for how brilliant he was in The Flash, but also in Legends of Tomorrow Season 2 as part of the Legion of Doom.

  • @TheDeathmail
    @TheDeathmail 3 місяці тому +1

    Barry not trying to change things is such a huge character growth scene.... T^T

  • @chickenwinghero6275
    @chickenwinghero6275 4 місяці тому +1

    He should’ve said “I can run towards it.” It was practically gift-wrapped for them 😂

  • @roachct9076
    @roachct9076 Рік тому +13

    Eobard thinks this is OG barry

  • @dannybenhur6123
    @dannybenhur6123 Рік тому +6

    Barry outgrew Cavanaugh' Thawne but not Matt's Thawne... It's amazing to have both Thawne's.

  • @ryanphung320
    @ryanphung320 11 місяців тому +2

    Imagine being a regular at this fine establishment and you hear these two talking about this at the next table. 😂

  • @razzer64bits
    @razzer64bits Рік тому +19

    Finally... Season 9 just got better.
    I missed Thawne so much.

  • @Cosmicmorales
    @Cosmicmorales Рік тому +3

    0:50 “The you I know from *THE FUTURE* he's not this stupid..”

  • @claymathewselevator8121
    @claymathewselevator8121 Рік тому +3

    Matt Letscher is awesome

  • @bryandiaz6597
    @bryandiaz6597 4 місяці тому +2

    What I love most about this scene is that Barry, through all his experiences and adventures, has become a seasoned hero. So much so he’s finally become THE Flash(sorta) that Thawne always references. The one that’s got years under his belt, that one that knows what he’s doing.
    S3 Thawne to S3 Barry:”The you I know from the future, he’s not this stupid”
    Thawne to S9 Barry:”You always were smart”

  • @Suedeash
    @Suedeash Рік тому +7

    They wasted Matt in this show. Realistically Tom as Eobard in season 1 was enough.

    • @timelessr9407
      @timelessr9407 Рік тому +1

      To top it off, the RF in the finale seen with the other speedster villains is Tom too

    • @Suedeash
      @Suedeash Рік тому

      ​@@timelessr9407 😢 that sucks man

  • @troll_486
    @troll_486 Рік тому +3

    "put me in Iron Heights" ....
    And exactly do what by that? since its 2000 and there are no meta dampeners? and he can't time travel

  • @veemon9280
    @veemon9280 Рік тому +4

    The moment Barry realizes that he is just there to fulfill the paradox with Eobard Thawne.

  • @Artisan1979
    @Artisan1979 Рік тому +2

    The irony is Thawne is enjoying the day and will have his own reasons to hate tonight for years to come.

  • @FeilanWolfProductions
    @FeilanWolfProductions Рік тому +6

    If I were Barry I wouldn’t be able to hold back a “You have no idea how bad your days going to get after tonight. You have no idea how hard your own hubris is going to destroy you”

    • @Cosmicmorales
      @Cosmicmorales Рік тому +5

      nah, he did the right thing he had no other choice but to endure what was gonna happen, its all destiny.

    • @brawl8
      @brawl8 Рік тому +2

      Barry got it all out of his system with all his past encounters with thawne. Especially when he 1st learned it was thawne. But after dealing with the same douche for so long it’s not worth it. You feel pity for him. It kills Barty because he has to let this toxic fanboy kill his mother. I’m not doing so creates a bad timeline. The best outcome comes from letting this maniac kill his mother. He has the power to stop it. Stopping it is the worst choice.
      Just because you can doesn’t mean you should.

  • @MOTZ9196
    @MOTZ9196 Рік тому +19

    Awesome scene

  • @vanshgarg5514
    @vanshgarg5514 Рік тому +5

    Tom's Thawne is great, but he could never gloat in the misery of Barry like Matt's Thawne can. Could. His version just enjoys the flash's pain to much, its criminal how underused he was

  • @neverendingproductions7171
    @neverendingproductions7171 4 місяці тому +2

    Grant will continue to be the best flash we will ever have.

  • @Montesama314
    @Montesama314 7 місяців тому

    Whoever is composing the music for seasons 8 and 9 has been really putting in work.

  • @KKORAS_
    @KKORAS_ Рік тому +5

    THIS IS ORIGINAL TIMELINE SHIT RIGHT HERE

  • @StardustAvenger
    @StardustAvenger Рік тому +11

    Wonder who ordered the drinks? Thawne or Barry

  • @gatzabba3746
    @gatzabba3746 2 місяці тому

    I like how Barry knew what Thawne wanted him to say. They know each other so well.

  • @miguelgamingeye2450
    @miguelgamingeye2450 Рік тому +5

    Best well written villain in the show right there

  • @Kevcarmon1017
    @Kevcarmon1017 Рік тому +12

    Looks like Thawne is back.

  • @NICKatronMC
    @NICKatronMC Рік тому +5

    Tom is amazing; I know, you know. You don't need me to tell you
    But a good chunk of my favorite scenes from the show are the interactions between Matt's Reverse Flash. I always loved when he appeared on the screen, especially now, since Barry is a more experienced version of himself than he was back in Season 3 and prior
    I was honestly really bitter about how the Reverse Flash was handled in the last season, especially with the whole nonsense about the forces. So this episode managed to do some really effective damage control to reignite my investment towards the character

  • @kushalbiswas3507
    @kushalbiswas3507 Рік тому +2

    Wish we could see reverse flash origin. The moment he decide to become flash and failed then truned into reverse flash

  • @andrewkind2820
    @andrewkind2820 Рік тому +2

    So a superhero and his arch nemesis walk into a bar......

  • @fameasser123
    @fameasser123 Рік тому +4

    Why did they keep on using Wells as Thawne and not his original face/actor?

    • @byonemesis
      @byonemesis 6 місяців тому

      Matt was unavailable for S4 and S5 due to being on Narcos.

  • @AllThingsNerdiness88
    @AllThingsNerdiness88 11 місяців тому +4

    This one of the best scene the show has had in awhile I wish the rest of seasons 5-9 were like this lol

  • @grandoaktree
    @grandoaktree 7 місяців тому +1

    “The you i know from the future? He’s not that dumb!”

  • @user-lo9nh6ub3h
    @user-lo9nh6ub3h 10 місяців тому +2

    i love reverse flash matt becasue he got the original face not dr wells face