Post crisis, we see how Thawne has become even more unhinged and revenge driven against the Flash. This version of Eobard is pre-Crisis, and scarily enough, still sane and calculatingly evil. Even without his speed, he's a dangerous force to be reckoned with. My bet is that by next episode or later down the line, he'll escape this fixed point in time, learn the fate of his post-crisis self, and either team up with him or murder him considering him to be weak.
Yes but in season 8 of the flash he kills only one person that I can remember of (Jesse L Martin) but he didn’t kill him permently only killed him so he was dead in reverse flash point barry easily reversed the death
@@multiverse_media2023 he’s born in 23rd century he can’t die until that point. And you cant kill him because he killed Barry’s mom which indirectly created the flash which also cant be changed because that itself is a fixed point for the flash.
@@Sconechoc What you on about? can you give the exact reference on when this is said? lol. of course he can die why else would he be running from black flash (legends season 2) if he wasnt afraid of dying and not existing 💀
@@wrestlingenjoyer you don't read the comics these shows are based on do you? Speedsters are, and pardon my language on this, ABSOLUTE FUCKING BULLSHIT. The Reverse Flash is literally the kid on the playground that keeps coming up with unfair counters to everything in the game you're playing because he can't accept losing even in a children's make-believe game.
At this point he's practically the purple guy of the series. No matter how many times you try to kill him, no matter what you do to stop him, no matter how many sacrifices are made, and no matter how much work you have to do in order to stop him he always comes back!
@@cosmicmaster1006 oh shit I forgot about that Sorry the series kinda fell off after Savitar and now I'm trying to preserve the memories of back then by erasing the current memories of season 6-8
@@Aurelius1239 See, you say that, but you know about Godspeed, so clearly you're not repressing memories of seasons 6-8 Just don't bother correcting other people without being up to date yourself. Just a thought :)
I truly believe in my opinion Matt Letscher’s Eobard Thawne is truly the best villain in the Arrow verse hands down. I do hope they bring him back this season for The Flash. He’s money as far as ratings go!
I would really appreciate if the two Thawne's would meet up together, and just discuss how they both got to the part at they are in right now. that would be an interesting scene 😁
@@abominable.7800 black flash only came to kill savitar after iris survived , that never happened in his timeline ,because hes one of the temporal duplicates . iris surviving is what disrupted time thats why savitar was going to be erased no matter what . flash went back and saved him self as a kid saw himself multiples times from different times , you can see your self its fine , your thinking more of the timecop theory where u can see yourself but do not touch being as you are the same being and the same being cannot occupy the same time and space . back to the future touched on that theory too , doc brown interacted with him self but never touched cause he knew it could cause a paradox collapsing the universe . lookings free touchins gonna cost ya lol
Honestly the Wells Thawne from S7-8 just feels out of place at this point. Same with S5 tbh (though I kinda don't care cause I hated S5). I mean S1 made sense and with the crossovers you never know how he got there but it's like they don't want Matt Letsch interacting with the flash cast or something. It's so dumb. He is set to appear in Flash S8, but who knows if it'll be because we will see his whole future and whole story or if it'll be a one-off or like 4 episodes where nothing is resolved (something the show has been doing since S7 pretty much).
I'm kind of hoping that this thawne confronts the other thawne and kills him. The thawne that we see in the flash is basically unhinged and has lost sight of himself. While this thawne is much more stable and closer to how he was before, he started rewriting the timeline. To better describe what I mean, I want to point to comic book thawne. Ever since he turned into a living paradox, he's been becoming more and more unhinged and focused solely on tormenting barry, and it wasn't till we got to the negative flash comics that that madness started getting peeled back, showing thawne's original motives. Also hoping that we get a retelling from the comics where current flash goes to the future, meets thawne while he's still a flash fan (and faking crimes to be a superhero) and possibly re educate that thawne so that he doesn't go evil.
Okay now I have no idea why they didn't just ask Matt Lescher to play the recent reverse flash appearances on the flash, since he is clearly willing to come back to the role.
You know I just realized a huge plot hole... the rf in the crisis on earth x crossover escaped and the rf in season 5 also escaped. Now barry pulled the rf from the past to help him beat godspeed in season 7 and that rf was the one that caused armageddon. So now that rf lost his speed and there are still 2 rf that are roaming around freely 😐
Reverse Flash's whole gimmick in the comics is that he's a living paradox. If there's one character who gets a pass from having an overly complicated and contradicting story as to how he's even alive, it's him
Mhm, yup. I already know that even with Thawne in his current situation, this little conversation with Sara has already gotten him starting to cook up his own hidden agenda that he can benefit from if Sara’s plan works out. I honestly don’t think he would just agree to help the Legends out without some ulterior motive. Just wait and see. 👀🙄😂
the time wraiths had a plan for eobard, because if you give him a goal, then he is unstoppable on giving up his goal. It is really beyond our understanding. But also, remember, thawne NEVER gives up his goals, his goal is to defeat the flash, the speed is his life, why wouldn't he kill himself unless he has a back-up plan. And also Sara was the one who stopped eobard, technically she killed him, so eobard wouldn't help. 3:18 look at his facial expressions, maybe it's just me, or eobard is angry because she killed him.
came to see their point? Thawne knew when we first met him that history should not be screwed with. I dunno what changed post his time with Nazi Oliver and Kara that turned him into what we've seen recently. But I'm glad he's rediscovered the lesson he tried to teach Barry on do-over day: Screwing with the timeline sucks.
Im glad that the followed up on the Thawne from Flashpoint I want to see him meet up with the Thawne that helped the Nazis, corrupted Nora, possesed Nash, killed Godspeed and that is now in prison without powers. Im sure Tom and Matt would get along
I really like this reverse flash over the Dr. Wells... never understood why in other timelines or other time periods he is the same and not this Eobard...
@Arrowverse Scenes i have finally complete the full story of Eobard Thawne and the difference Between him and The Negative Speed Force in the CW s The Flash . If you can take your time to read it it s worth it
Makes sense, has to stay alive to the point where current flash becomes the one that saves his younger self then becomes the bolt to give himself powers in 2013
Came just to leave this comment: As a long time arrowverse (who has stopped watching any of the shows) it amazes my how the CW writers have zero imagination in how to write stories and formulate a supposed internal universe. How tf is this guy alive? Oh because he’s reverse flash! A super popular character who you can just keep killing and killing and killing and just keep bringing back if you need viewers because the only explanation they ever give is (time travel, y’know?)
Something tells me the Time wraiths is just another name for the writers! Who hates it the most when you mess with time AKA the story the most? Who loves to bring back Thawn over and over after he keeps dying?
I love how they use him for the legends but not the show he should be in. I love Tom but damn it doesnt make sense that zoom would keep going to his face
The Legends were charged with maintaining and protecting the timeline and making sure that events happened as they were supposed to that history stayed the same....and yet all they ever did was make things worse and bugger things up.
Shame Post Crisis they didn't bring Malcolm Merlyn/Dark Archer, Leonard Snart/Captain Cold, Floyd Lawton/Deadshot, Martin Stein/Firestorm, Rip Hunter and Brother Blood back to life, Brother Blood would have been a great antagonist for The Legends, what if a Time Displaced Sebastian Blood was recruiting people for His Church of Blood/Blood Cult
"History cannot and should not be changed." Barry fixes the death of his mom that was caused by time travel from this guy and that is horrible and must be left to take place. OK then...
I never thought about it that way, but you're right, Nora Allen was never meant to be killed that day, Barry saving her from Thawne was him course correcting the original timeline, and the events in Seasons 1 - 2 of the Flash were Thawne's "Flashpoint" and therefore never meant to be.
Barry mother was always meant to be killed by eobard thawne its a closed timeloop there was no orignal timeline Flashpoint plays a part in that closed timelooop
Matt Thawne is the same As Wells Thawne because in season 1 of flash he killed the real wells and stole his face and if yall pay attention after earth x he said " I wonder what face I'll be wearing next time we meet" Season 5 " I put on a familiar face " Matt Version of Thawne is what he actually looks like
Seriously, after watching everything, i can tell one thing for sure everything and everyone used Eobard for their own gauns and threw him out like a used tea cup.
I am already loosing in Eobard Thawne. He was erased from timeline when Edie Thawne killed himself to prevent Eobard being born. Then LoT explained bcs he is the member of the speed force or better bcs Negative speed force ignore the time paradox, he was back again. But then he was killed by Black Flash and erased AGAIN. Then he appeared again and again and again in Flash until the Crisis on infinitive Earths happened and Eobard SOMEHOW ended in Nash Wells bcs.... I guess the universe forgot he wasn't born as Wells. Team Flash stopped him from taking over Nash's body but soon, he was brought back by Barry bcs he needed help with Godspeed. (Not really help more like CW needed to get rid of Godspeed) Then Eobard timetraveled and caused the whole thing with Armagedon after which Barry takes away Eobard speed and.... How the hell does he now have ENTIRE different story. No wonder people hate this season. They made the whole thing with Flash entirely useless. And if I'm thinking correctly, THEY literally rebooted Eobard since season 2.
@@a-ash666 the best way I can explain it is from the flashpoint cartoon and also the comic Thawne and keep in mind this is comic books so it's not really supposed to make sense but he will never truly die, must me the NSF but he'll always exist in various timelines
@@nicwinsteadart5330 you did explain this nicely, but you didn't explain why this Eobard is from first battle with LoT and completely ignores any history with Flash.
Post crisis, we see how Thawne has become even more unhinged and revenge driven against the Flash. This version of Eobard is pre-Crisis, and scarily enough, still sane and calculatingly evil. Even without his speed, he's a dangerous force to be reckoned with. My bet is that by next episode or later down the line, he'll escape this fixed point in time, learn the fate of his post-crisis self, and either team up with him or murder him considering him to be weak.
nope he gets killed by android sara
@@zodiark2456 Ad Nate takes over his task after he dies
There’s also another possibility those two might merge together
@@Carlos-oo4wb no he died
Yes but in season 8 of the flash he kills only one person that I can remember of (Jesse L Martin) but he didn’t kill him permently only killed him so he was dead in reverse flash point barry easily reversed the death
Thawne has more lives than a time lord.
WB and DC want more money.
@@multiverse_media2023 he’s born in 23rd century he can’t die until that point. And you cant kill him because he killed Barry’s mom which indirectly created the flash which also cant be changed because that itself is a fixed point for the flash.
@@Sconechoc What you on about? can you give the exact reference on when this is said? lol. of course he can die why else would he be running from black flash (legends season 2) if he wasnt afraid of dying and not existing 💀
@@wrestlingenjoyer you don't read the comics these shows are based on do you? Speedsters are, and pardon my language on this, ABSOLUTE FUCKING BULLSHIT. The Reverse Flash is literally the kid on the playground that keeps coming up with unfair counters to everything in the game you're playing because he can't accept losing even in a children's make-believe game.
Both Gideon and Matt's Thawne knows about the Fixed Point
At this point he's practically the purple guy of the series. No matter how many times you try to kill him, no matter what you do to stop him, no matter how many sacrifices are made, and no matter how much work you have to do in order to stop him he always comes back!
-_-
That’s what the reverse flash does
Technically it’s the other way around since Eobard Thawne existed before William Afton. Although I am not sure if the time paradox thing is as old.
Funny thing is that they both love wearing yellow too xD
Except doesn’t like to kill ki- weeeell he tried to so…
This dude is playing 5D chess to stay alive at this point. There are 2 Eobards running around now, both without speed now
@Usuario cualquiera his plans have plans
Actually I think he has speed again
How else did he help Barry defeat Godspeed
@@Aurelius1239 um have you watched the latest episodes of Flash? Season 8? Armageddon?
@@cosmicmaster1006 oh shit I forgot about that
Sorry the series kinda fell off after Savitar and now I'm trying to preserve the memories of back then by erasing the current memories of season 6-8
@@Aurelius1239 See, you say that, but you know about Godspeed, so clearly you're not repressing memories of seasons 6-8
Just don't bother correcting other people without being up to date yourself. Just a thought :)
I like this a lot. Legends has its problems but it treated Eobard very well. He’s my favorite villain in the arrow verse period and just phenomenal
He's my fav villain in all of fiction . If only they Gave him a bit better writing and cgi
I truly believe in my opinion Matt Letscher’s Eobard Thawne is truly the best villain in the Arrow verse hands down. I do hope they bring him back this season for The Flash. He’s money as far as ratings go!
He took over CW itself
I love how Legends are originally hired to protect the timeline and Eobard is the one who always changes it. But now it's exactly opposite.
I feel like every time thawne shows up he explains how he’s still alive
Lol true! Cause almost every trying you see him, it's like "wtf, I thought you died bro."
Honestly yes, every time. This is the first time he isn't mocking someone with how he did it though.
its for us
I would really appreciate if the two Thawne's would meet up together, and just discuss how they both got to the part at they are in right now. that would be an interesting scene 😁
wouldn't that disrupt time one of them would have to die. you not supppose to see yourself from a different time
@@abominable.7800 Flash season 3 is built exactly on that though
@@egg7540 savitar was going to die anyways black flash was going to come and kill him. but he prevented it
@@abominable.7800 I get your point, it should disrupt the timeline, but the writers didn't think that through
@@abominable.7800 black flash only came to kill savitar after iris survived , that never happened in his timeline ,because hes one of the temporal duplicates . iris surviving is what disrupted time thats why savitar was going to be erased no matter what . flash went back and saved him self as a kid saw himself multiples times from different times , you can see your self its fine , your thinking more of the timecop theory where u can see yourself but do not touch being as you are the same being and the same being cannot occupy the same time and space . back to the future touched on that theory too , doc brown interacted with him self but never touched cause he knew it could cause a paradox collapsing the universe . lookings free touchins gonna cost ya lol
“After I was killed off in “Aruba” the writers called me back from my hiatus, they still had… a plan for me”
I miss this Eobard. I was slowly getting tired of the Wells Thawn.
Honestly the Wells Thawne from S7-8 just feels out of place at this point. Same with S5 tbh (though I kinda don't care cause I hated S5). I mean S1 made sense and with the crossovers you never know how he got there but it's like they don't want Matt Letsch interacting with the flash cast or something. It's so dumb. He is set to appear in Flash S8, but who knows if it'll be because we will see his whole future and whole story or if it'll be a one-off or like 4 episodes where nothing is resolved (something the show has been doing since S7 pretty much).
@@oneandonlysound3453 wait how did u know he was set to appear in s8
Thawne... good? Yeah I'm not buying that for even a second! Mark my words, he's up to something
Unfortunately, you won't be able to see that...after what ending they gave him.
Thawne is the kid that went “Rock, Paper, Scissors, GOD!” 💀
He's a good actor.
He’s in Zorro also
His "Big twist" line was awesome
“I’m just trying to get everyone home”
“I tried to go home once… sorry… just… nostalgia-not important”
“The producers don’t want to let me go”
I love how Thawne's theme is the same but softer, showing his speed gone but his insane genius still the same.
And I thought Matt Letscher would never return. Welcome back.
I'm kind of hoping that this thawne confronts the other thawne and kills him. The thawne that we see in the flash is basically unhinged and has lost sight of himself. While this thawne is much more stable and closer to how he was before, he started rewriting the timeline. To better describe what I mean, I want to point to comic book thawne. Ever since he turned into a living paradox, he's been becoming more and more unhinged and focused solely on tormenting barry, and it wasn't till we got to the negative flash comics that that madness started getting peeled back, showing thawne's original motives. Also hoping that we get a retelling from the comics where current flash goes to the future, meets thawne while he's still a flash fan (and faking crimes to be a superhero) and possibly re educate that thawne so that he doesn't go evil.
Okay now I have no idea why they didn't just ask Matt Lescher to play the recent reverse flash appearances on the flash, since he is clearly willing to come back to the role.
Eobard thawne everytime he appears: How? Because I'm a fucking genius!!
Ironically, he is indeed a genius in the 22nd Century, if not THE most intelligent person alive in the Arrowverse.
You know I just realized a huge plot hole... the rf in the crisis on earth x crossover escaped and the rf in season 5 also escaped. Now barry pulled the rf from the past to help him beat godspeed in season 7 and that rf was the one that caused armageddon. So now that rf lost his speed and there are still 2 rf that are roaming around freely 😐
So there are 2 rf that have their speed and 2 that don't
Reverse Flash's whole gimmick in the comics is that he's a living paradox. If there's one character who gets a pass from having an overly complicated and contradicting story as to how he's even alive, it's him
This is like the 18th time this exact scene has happened
It is surprising how long it has been since we have seen Eobard’s real face, honestly I thought something might have happened to the real Eobard
Mhm, yup. I already know that even with Thawne in his current situation, this little conversation with Sara has already gotten him starting to cook up his own hidden agenda that he can benefit from if Sara’s plan works out. I honestly don’t think he would just agree to help the Legends out without some ulterior motive. Just wait and see. 👀🙄😂
Its called the power of the fanbase
Knowing Thawn...hes working an angle here to free himself and be RF again
Who needs history when you got legends of tomorrow
I wish Barry could have a sit down with this Thawne
Bruh i have some good news lol
@@Metalexx Yeah I know. But it wasn't *that* Thawne.
What an absolute tragedy. I can't believe that this show made it to season 7.
the time wraiths had a plan for eobard, because if you give him a goal, then he is unstoppable on giving up his goal. It is really beyond our understanding.
But also, remember, thawne NEVER gives up his goals, his goal is to defeat the flash, the speed is his life, why wouldn't he kill himself unless he has a back-up plan. And also Sara was the one who stopped eobard, technically she killed him, so eobard wouldn't help. 3:18 look at his facial expressions, maybe it's just me, or eobard is angry because she killed him.
So the Speed Force either kills you or turns you into an eternal slave ( in Zoom’s case both) when you break its rules. That’s nice.
The actor playing Eobard looks quite a lot like a much younger version of David Hyde Pierce (Niles Crane from Frasier)
And he(David Hyde Pierce) voiced Sideshow Cecil on The Simpsons
came to see their point? Thawne knew when we first met him that history should not be screwed with. I dunno what changed post his time with Nazi Oliver and Kara that turned him into what we've seen recently. But I'm glad he's rediscovered the lesson he tried to teach Barry on do-over day: Screwing with the timeline sucks.
At this point I think its safe to just not question when Thawne comes back. Its just what he does
Still funny to think that not even the Spear of Destiny could get rid of him. Lol.
@@Kayoss13212Time Paradox
I wish The Flash used Mat more often than Tom to play Eobard...
Im glad that the followed up on the Thawne from Flashpoint
I want to see him meet up with the Thawne that helped the Nazis, corrupted Nora, possesed Nash, killed Godspeed and that is now in prison without powers. Im sure Tom and Matt would get along
Matt Eobard: Wait you took the form of the guy who told me he was "No one of consequence?"
Tom Eobard: "I did........ And there's more to that!"
Thawn is up to something 👀 it's not over
The fact that he is out there protecting fixed points breaks the narrative of this current season of Flash
Thawne sounds like a changed man.
@Usuario cualquiera true,that’s why he’s a manipulative mastermind
Thawne will never change he's clearly tricking them
@Usuario cualquiera yep
@@maliquematthews903 agreed,he’s very manipulative so I think he’s manipulating them to get his powers back
Reverse Flash is the biggest headache in the Arrowverse
Fuck, haven’t realized this was a new episode. :)) I almost spoiled myself 😂
At this point he's alive due to his contract
"Evil AI and her army of evil robots." Nice writing
he is basically william afton, he always comes back.
I really like this reverse flash over the Dr. Wells... never understood why in other timelines or other time periods he is the same and not this Eobard...
This version and the one in Argus is stuck in time,maybe thawne gets his powers back in the next episode of LoT then leaves
Yeah Barry and then took thawes powers right ? And handed him over to Argus. I’m confused or is there really two Thawnes now?
Tom Thawne - Evil Mastermind Cocky
Matt - British Evil Gentleman.
Ahah.
He's alive because the writers want him to be.
The better Thawne!
I prefer this version of Thawne
Same
Without his super speed powers, he is not that tough. however it would be interesting to see this Reverse Flash vs Wells Reverse Flash on The Flash.
Matt’s voice sounds exactly like the “it was me Barry “ reverse flash from flashpoint
I'm waiting to see Matt and Tom team up.
Damn..a reformed Thawne. Didn't see that coming. I haven't watched Legends so it feels like this is totally outta left field to me.
I lost count of how many times he’s had to explain that by now😂
I mean he is a living paradox meaning he can die and appear at different point in time
One answer: plot armor
I'm just wondering how they got him back for Legends but not the Flash. Love Cavanaugh as Thawne but still
“Thawne’s plans have plans.”
Reverse flash and joker and green goblin: we have no plans, we just open up your plans.
@Arrowverse Scenes i have finally complete the full story of Eobard Thawne and the difference Between him and The Negative Speed Force in the CW s The Flash . If you can take your time to read it it s worth it
huh so there are multiple Thawnes now. One is the Wellsobard Cavanagh iteration, the other is the Letscher Legends version?
Makes sense, has to stay alive to the point where current flash becomes the one that saves his younger self then becomes the bolt to give himself powers in 2013
DC as a company or media house can dissolve but this man will still be alive
Yes, and it's been a slow, cruel process.
Thawne always explaining how he's alive 🤣
Came just to leave this comment: As a long time arrowverse (who has stopped watching any of the shows) it amazes my how the CW writers have zero imagination in how to write stories and formulate a supposed internal universe. How tf is this guy alive? Oh because he’s reverse flash! A super popular character who you can just keep killing and killing and killing and just keep bringing back if you need viewers because the only explanation they ever give is (time travel, y’know?)
Ah, so he was remade like Zoom/Black Flash. Cool.
Awesome great movie 🎥 Legnends of tomorrow. Great movie 🎥
It's a series, not a movie.
It's not a movie
Something tells me the Time wraiths is just another name for the writers! Who hates it the most when you mess with time AKA the story the most? Who loves to bring back Thawn over and over after he keeps dying?
How many time remnants does Thawne have?
Caity Lotz has some insane Black Widow energy
They literally couldnt get him back for the flash at any time? Wellsobard outside season 1 made no sense!
he's a time paradox as long as the flash is around he will always probably be alive
So is there 2 different eobard thawnes now
I love how they use him for the legends but not the show he should be in. I love Tom but damn it doesnt make sense that zoom would keep going to his face
I feel like he would be a great fit for a movie reverse flash as well.
What the hell?? This was a year and a hald ago?? I remember watching this when it released like it was a month ago. Time is going ao fast jesus
.....Is it just me, or is that a variation of Thawne's theme sing at the start?
It is
Everytime Thawne is involved in time travel it gets more and more weird
The Legends were charged with maintaining and protecting the timeline and making sure that events happened as they were supposed to that history stayed the same....and yet all they ever did was make things worse and bugger things up.
Shame Post Crisis they didn't bring Malcolm Merlyn/Dark Archer, Leonard Snart/Captain Cold, Floyd Lawton/Deadshot, Martin Stein/Firestorm, Rip Hunter and Brother Blood back to life, Brother Blood would have been a great antagonist for The Legends, what if a Time Displaced Sebastian Blood was recruiting people for His Church of Blood/Blood Cult
Based on the comments you guys never saw the entire episode
A thawne in your eye
I wish for once more recent flash seasons use the real thawne instead wells' face
good writing when barry ain't involved
how are you alive?
thawne: becos money
you ca never kill this guy
"History cannot and should not be changed."
Barry fixes the death of his mom that was caused by time travel from this guy and that is horrible and must be left to take place.
OK then...
I never thought about it that way, but you're right, Nora Allen was never meant to be killed that day, Barry saving her from Thawne was him course correcting the original timeline, and the events in Seasons 1 - 2 of the Flash were Thawne's "Flashpoint" and therefore never meant to be.
Barry mother was always meant to be killed by eobard thawne its a closed timeloop there was no orignal timeline Flashpoint plays a part in that closed timelooop
@@ioniiKxFreeZeX It's time travel so Thawne was the one who went back and changed things.
@@ioniiKxFreeZeX Where did you get that information from?
@@walmartpimp2 rewatch flash s1 to third
If Legends can get Matt Letscher to return as Eobard, why can't the Flash!?
Matt Thawne is the same As Wells Thawne because in season 1 of flash he killed the real wells and stole his face and if yall pay attention after earth x he said " I wonder what face I'll be wearing next time we meet" Season 5 " I put on a familiar face " Matt Version of Thawne is what he actually looks like
If anyone knows anything about thawne you should know he's a very manipulative intelligent man he's planning something I feel it
Only reason yellow flashes still alive is because because plot armor and ratings
Me:can you explain how you are alive for the 1000 time. Thawne:do I even have to explain anymore. Me:you know what fine
The problem with thawne that he won't die in the God damn arrowverse
Seriously, after watching everything, i can tell one thing for sure everything and everyone used Eobard for their own gauns and threw him out like a used tea cup.
What No one gets is that if eobard escaped and went to flash there would be 2 of him there
Explains how he survived just to get killed again dafuq🤣
I am already loosing in Eobard Thawne. He was erased from timeline when Edie Thawne killed himself to prevent Eobard being born. Then LoT explained bcs he is the member of the speed force or better bcs Negative speed force ignore the time paradox, he was back again. But then he was killed by Black Flash and erased AGAIN. Then he appeared again and again and again in Flash until the Crisis on infinitive Earths happened and Eobard SOMEHOW ended in Nash Wells bcs.... I guess the universe forgot he wasn't born as Wells. Team Flash stopped him from taking over Nash's body but soon, he was brought back by Barry bcs he needed help with Godspeed. (Not really help more like CW needed to get rid of Godspeed) Then Eobard timetraveled and caused the whole thing with Armagedon after which Barry takes away Eobard speed and.... How the hell does he now have ENTIRE different story. No wonder people hate this season. They made the whole thing with Flash entirely useless. And if I'm thinking correctly, THEY literally rebooted Eobard since season 2.
Thawne is a Paradox he'll truly never die
@@nicwinsteadart5330 but that still doesn't explain this what we have here.
@@a-ash666 the best way I can explain it is from the flashpoint cartoon and also the comic Thawne and keep in mind this is comic books so it's not really supposed to make sense but he will never truly die, must me the NSF but he'll always exist in various timelines
@@nicwinsteadart5330 you did explain this nicely, but you didn't explain why this Eobard is from first battle with LoT and completely ignores any history with Flash.
@@nicwinsteadart5330 I know the comic and even the DCU flashpoint btw so I know