Sweet to see how Future William just showed how open he is to his dad, for the way he just hugged him like that. And afterwards, he and Oliver had sweet conversations.
And then Mia was the opposite. Oliver was about to hug her and she was like nope. She was not open at first but even revealed why she was angry at him and then eventually got past that to finally have a good father-daughter moment.
@@BRB-ck3jr But of course, she got angry when believing in a false story about his Dad. It's a thing that happens to misguided youngsters who made false assumptions and conclusions about someone like their parents until they learn they were dead wrong about them.
@@NickyHelp From what I remember, she lived in a dystopian Star City where she heard many contradictory stories. Some people believed Oliver was a hero, some other didn't. However, her biggest problem was that the only thing she really knew about her father was that he died before she could even remember him, and since she wasn't there during the Crisis, she couldn't really understand that Oliver had no other choice but to die to save her and everyone else, she felt like her father simply didn't love her enough to stay with her and Felicity. Unlike William, who lived with Oliver for a time and saw him save the city countless times and understood that being a hero sometimes means to sacrifice yourself for other people, including the ones you love.
As soon as oliver realized it, william, he hugged him harder, must been years since oliver hugged his son.without him reazling how hard he was hugging him
The worst mistake the writers made was, after Crisis, setting the spinoff with Mia back in the future. It should have been Mia, William and Connor stuck in the past, the future having been erased, and stepping up to be heroes now that Oliver was dead. Setting it back in the future made it needlessly complicated, especially with bringing both Canaries into it.
But they did well with the restoration of memories like with JJ because he might’ve become evil but at the same time wouldn’t want to harm Mia and his friends because of Earth Prime memories
This is the same universe as the flash so they would have been erased when the timeline changed. Besides after crisis the timeline was rewritten completely from the beginning...!
@@pmparda Ah, but it was Oliver that rewrote the timeline. He could have easily had them remain in the past. I mean, he brought his mother and Quentin Lance back from the dead (but not Earth 1 Laurel, which is inexplicable).
I really wish we would've gotten that Arrow spinoff into Arrow and the canaries. Kat would've been great in that show. Plus, I think the plot would've been fun, atleast for the first season or two
Well it’s sad because JJ is evil so that’s why he didn’t come along and then there’s the fact that he killed Zoe and Zoe is dead so that also happened which is super sad.
I never understood how mia, jj , and mad dog daughter were around the same age when they are years older than mia according to timelines of their age when they were kids. And the fact jj were evil where the hell was dig? Or Layla
William and Zoe are around the same age, likely their early 30s. They were like 11-12 in 2019. Connor is 6 years old in the present day so he’s 27 in 2040, and JJ is 4-5 years old the present making him 25-26. He was born in season 3, well baby Sara was born in season 3. Mia is obviously the baby of all of them at 20-21 years old. So you can say JJ, Connor and Mia are around the same age, but Zoe and William are way older than the other 3
@@misspriss2482 still not a good enough excuse. Giving entitlement. What did Connor do so bad for someone to be jealous of. I have three siblings and that not how it works,
@@jaqurriaveals2673think about the Conner back story in the Arrowverse. In arrow, Connor is the son of Ben Turner/Bronze Tiger (who we’ll remember was one of the Suicide Squad members that redeemed himself fighting alongside Diggle while he was working with ARGUS). ARGUS lost a lot of influence after Waller’s death; they were also very corrupt so Diggle formed his own Agency - Knightwatch, and Conner (being older) was an agent in it and took to learning from Diggle. It’s implied JJ wasn’t as interested/joined at the hip to his father as Connor was and eventually Diggle died and JJ took to other crowds; he discovered the Deathstroke gang, joined it, and eventually became leader of it as form of revenge for feeling abandoned.
To be fair they should’ve realized. They’ve already been through so much craziness with the Mar Novu stuff and knowing Barry. So idk why they were so shocked. I know it just adds emotion and drama to the scene but it’s as if they completely forgot time travel and alternate realities exist.
I didn't enjoy season 8 of Arrow. It felt like the writers didn't know what to do with the show. I'm glad it ended, especially because of the confusing storyline involving the kids from the future. The storytelling was bad, and Oliver's death was unnecessary since they ended up bringing him back. Overall, I have mixed feelings about this show.
I liked season 8. It felt like the first season again. I skipped season 7 because the internal conflict within the team got annoying. I mean, Oliver wasn't the easiest person to work with but his apprentices' hypocrisy was ridiculous.
@@evilcleo exactly season 7 got me so angry Oliver suffered a lot, Diaz killed him psychologically and the team drifted apart everyone left oliver he was so sad and lonely even Dig left him😪😪😪 Season 7 and season 8 were the worst and confusing for season 8. The dead of Oliver was not necessary and 20 years after his dead Felicity died too and met him in another side of life wtf😑😑
Sweet to see how Future William just showed how open he is to his dad, for the way he just hugged him like that. And afterwards, he and Oliver had sweet conversations.
And then Mia was the opposite. Oliver was about to hug her and she was like nope. She was not open at first but even revealed why she was angry at him and then eventually got past that to finally have a good father-daughter moment.
@@BRB-ck3jr But of course, she got angry when believing in a false story about his Dad. It's a thing that happens to misguided youngsters who made false assumptions and conclusions about someone like their parents until they learn they were dead wrong about them.
William grew up with Oliver at some point while Mia didn’t. That’s why he was so opened toward him.
@@TravelwithTasha393 That's not the point I was making.
@@NickyHelp From what I remember, she lived in a dystopian Star City where she heard many contradictory stories. Some people believed Oliver was a hero, some other didn't. However, her biggest problem was that the only thing she really knew about her father was that he died before she could even remember him, and since she wasn't there during the Crisis, she couldn't really understand that Oliver had no other choice but to die to save her and everyone else, she felt like her father simply didn't love her enough to stay with her and Felicity. Unlike William, who lived with Oliver for a time and saw him save the city countless times and understood that being a hero sometimes means to sacrifice yourself for other people, including the ones you love.
As soon as oliver realized it, william, he hugged him harder, must been years since oliver hugged his son.without him reazling how hard he was hugging him
I love John’s reaction: Dad, John like “what is this” 😒
I would blamed the flash lol
William: Dad?
Oliver: Those are my kids 🥹
Connor: Dad?
Diggle: Who tf is this nigga?
@@TruthSeeker23099 his brain probably assumed so
@@Michael-fi7nu nah he was wondering wtf did barry do this time xD
@@immapotato1 lol probably
The worst mistake the writers made was, after Crisis, setting the spinoff with Mia back in the future. It should have been Mia, William and Connor stuck in the past, the future having been erased, and stepping up to be heroes now that Oliver was dead. Setting it back in the future made it needlessly complicated, especially with bringing both Canaries into it.
No no. Their worst mistake was not even having the spinoff happen.
But they did well with the restoration of memories like with JJ because he might’ve become evil but at the same time wouldn’t want to harm Mia and his friends because of Earth Prime memories
How are they trapped besides Sarah’s team existing we find out about other time agency’s and masters they would have been sent home
This is the same universe as the flash so they would have been erased when the timeline changed. Besides after crisis the timeline was rewritten completely from the beginning...!
@@pmparda Ah, but it was Oliver that rewrote the timeline. He could have easily had them remain in the past. I mean, he brought his mother and Quentin Lance back from the dead (but not Earth 1 Laurel, which is inexplicable).
Oliver meets Mia
Barry meets Nora
Lucifer meets Rory
What's with DC and meeting your future adult daughters
Constantine meeting his daugher
and Trigon meeting Raven!
@@eugeniosabater8449 Rory and his daughter and Martin and his'
And also healing the traumas they got from them not being alive in the future
Technically I don't count that incarnation of Lucifer as a DC character he's si different than the comicbook version.
@@ilphi08 Barry met his son too
BARRY ALLEN WHAT HAVE YOU DONE AGAIN TO THE TIMELINE
Hey, at least we couldn’t blame Barry for this
I really wish we would've gotten that Arrow spinoff into Arrow and the canaries. Kat would've been great in that show. Plus, I think the plot would've been fun, atleast for the first season or two
They travel to 2019 when in one scene Zoe :how 2019
Well it’s sad because JJ is evil so that’s why he didn’t come along and then there’s the fact that he killed Zoe and Zoe is dead so that also happened which is super sad.
Still the most shocking moment in the arrow verse, but I do remember calling us in episode one of season eight
I love the “2040” so much
fact JJ was raised with Zoe since they were kids and JJ killed her 😢
I never understood how mia, jj , and mad dog daughter were around the same age when they are years older than mia according to timelines of their age when they were kids. And the fact jj were evil where the hell was dig? Or Layla
William and Zoe are around the same age, likely their early 30s. They were like 11-12 in 2019. Connor is 6 years old in the present day so he’s 27 in 2040, and JJ is 4-5 years old the present making him 25-26. He was born in season 3, well baby Sara was born in season 3. Mia is obviously the baby of all of them at 20-21 years old. So you can say JJ, Connor and Mia are around the same age, but Zoe and William are way older than the other 3
They explained why JJ turned evil. JJ was jealous of Connor and never forgave his parents for adopting him.
@@misspriss2482 still not a good enough excuse. Giving entitlement. What did Connor do so bad for someone to be jealous of. I have three siblings and that not how it works,
@@jaqurriaveals2673think about the Conner back story in the Arrowverse.
In arrow, Connor is the son of Ben Turner/Bronze Tiger (who we’ll remember was one of the Suicide Squad members that redeemed himself fighting alongside Diggle while he was working with ARGUS).
ARGUS lost a lot of influence after Waller’s death; they were also very corrupt so Diggle formed his own Agency - Knightwatch, and Conner (being older) was an agent in it and took to learning from Diggle. It’s implied JJ wasn’t as interested/joined at the hip to his father as Connor was and eventually Diggle died and JJ took to other crowds; he discovered the Deathstroke gang, joined it, and eventually became leader of it as form of revenge for feeling abandoned.
i miss how crazy arrow was, we desperately need more shows like this
I love how Diggle was like " Dad?????"😭😭😭😭😭
I wish they would have done the spin off to this.
They were going to make a show about the future
And the painkiller show
Does anyone find it funny that Oliver doesn’t even ask that Mia has his old bow and arrow from season 4 to 7
I hate this show wasn't picked up. I wish it had continued after Arrow finished
They should have let Oliver alive
Coolest cold open in the series😊
William Queen is has changed the past in a year 2040
I still love adult Liam.
William*
I’ve only seen through season 3 so this is hilarious to me
these scene gives me chills everytime
Dc superheroes having family kids and marvel at corner iykyk😢😭🤧
Reverse flash: it was me Barry, i was the one who responded for all of this because of you
Diggle if you don't HUG YOUR CHILD
Who's Zoe?
Mad dogs daughter
Rene’s kid
Zoe Ramirez, Rene's daughter.
To be fair they should’ve realized. They’ve already been through so much craziness with the Mar Novu stuff and knowing Barry. So idk why they were so shocked. I know it just adds emotion and drama to the scene but it’s as if they completely forgot time travel and alternate realities exist.
4:22 *21
Looooool
I didn't enjoy season 8 of Arrow. It felt like the writers didn't know what to do with the show. I'm glad it ended, especially because of the confusing storyline involving the kids from the future. The storytelling was bad, and Oliver's death was unnecessary since they ended up bringing him back. Overall, I have mixed feelings about this show.
It’s certainly looks confusing, her daughter, a grown woman, and where is Felicity😔😔
Oliver didn't die, he became The Spectre
I liked season 8. It felt like the first season again. I skipped season 7 because the internal conflict within the team got annoying. I mean, Oliver wasn't the easiest person to work with but his apprentices' hypocrisy was ridiculous.
@@evilcleoit wasn’t good.
@@evilcleo exactly season 7 got me so angry Oliver suffered a lot, Diaz killed him psychologically and the team drifted apart everyone left oliver he was so sad and lonely even Dig left him😪😪😪
Season 7 and season 8 were the worst and confusing for season 8. The dead of Oliver was not necessary and 20 years after his dead Felicity died too and met him in another side of life wtf😑😑
Дочь очень красивая на маму похожа но боец она как отец
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CW: lets ruin the arrow verses and make William gay
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Fun fact 90% of the actors/actress in ARROWVERSE are gay in real life starting with Roy