@@zach1389 You may think that but he's right about Ben being around 2 seasons too many. You don't want someone's greatness to disappear when they play.
Stephen A. Smith says "Big Ben stayed two years too long." / For that to be true, whoever replaced him would have had to do better than 21 wins, 11 losses, 2 for 2 in playoff berths, an 11-game winning streak, and an AFC North crown. About 90% of NFL QB's would have been hard pressed to do any better with that offensive line.
Wow! Ryan Clark nailed this take! SAS ain’t a real Pittsburgh fan. He could care less if they lose. Only supports them when they’re super bowl contenders.
Regardless of who's better you're showing your lack of NFL history knowledge. Bradshaw played in an era where you could chuck the reciever past 5 yds and there were no defenseless reciever rules. Ben was drafted by a team that had plenty of pieces, Bradshaw was drafted by the worst team in NFL history and thrown to the wolves with zero talent and those early years is the bulk of his interceptions. Once he had talent he called his own plays, won a league MVP, 2 Super Bowl MVPs and 4 Super Bowls in 6 years, back to back twice. He has a whopping 112.8 Super Bowl passer rating.
@@80steen44 bradshaw played with 8 hof players, ben played with 3 in a more competitive era. what's that about lack of knowledge?! regardless of how you want to spin it, bradshaw was a mediocre qb
Can't compare stats different Era if you at the stats of quarterback from Bradshaw Era you'll that most of the quarterback inentercepion touchdown ratios are high cause back then you can actually play defense unlike today pass happy lead I still think big ben was the better quarterback just saying comparing stats doesn't tell whole story
I think Ben is better but Bradshaw had a cannon. you can’t compare stats in a run first, very physical era where you could jam way past 5 yards and recievers would get killed
Ben had to play in an era with Peyton and Brady. Sure Bradshaw had to play against some HOF Qb's, but not nearly the same level as those guys. Bradshaw also got to play with an entire team of HOF's.
You have to compare QB's WITHIN AN ERA. 95% of 2022 QB's "have better stats" than Terry Bradshaw because 99% of rule changes since the 1970's have weakened defenses and benefitted offenses. I think Big Ben was better also, but the reason isn't an unfair "statistical comparison" between eras. The reason is because Terry Bradshaw played for a team with about 10 Hall Of Famers on it and another 2 or 3 that probably should be. Ben's supporting cast was "good". Terry's was insane.
Funny thing... in 76 they nerfed defense to slow down the steel curtain. Instead it opened up the steelers pass game allowing strong armed bradshaw to bomb all over defenses to Swann and stallworth. 😅 They ended up winning 2 more titles after the infamous 76 nerf.
I know it’s a different era. But look at Terry Bradshaws ridiculous rookie season 83/218 (38.1%), 1,410 Yards, 6 TDs, 24 INTs, 38.1 Passer Rating. These are not typos. He was #1 overall pick that year.
thelegendsqb1 so is big ben I know it's a different era but he got away with different era but big ben had all them charges go away what about his victims
Regardless of who's better you're showing your lack of NFL history knowledge. Bradshaw played in an era where you could chuck the reciever past 5 yds and there were no defenseless reciever rules. Ben was drafted by a team that had plenty of pieces, Bradshaw was drafted by the worst team in NFL history and thrown to the wolves with zero talent and those early years is the bulk of his interceptions. Once he had talent he called his own plays, won a league MVP, 2 Super Bowl MVPs and 4 Super Bowls in 6 years, back to back twice. He has a whopping 112.8 Super Bowl passer rating.
@@slothkng Regardless of who's better you're showing your lack of NFL history knowledge. Bradshaw played in an era where you could chuck the reciever past 5 yds and there were no defenseless reciever rules. Ben was drafted by a team that had plenty of pieces, Bradshaw was drafted by the worst team in NFL history and thrown to the wolves with zero talent and those early years is the bulk of his interceptions. Once he had talent he called his own plays, won a league MVP, 2 Super Bowl MVPs and 4 Super Bowls in 6 years, back to back twice. He has a whopping 112.8 Super Bowl passer rating.
Before Bradshaw went to the Steelers they were one of the worst teams in the NFL and help turn the team into one of the greatest teams in the history of the NFL when ben went to the Steelers they were a qb away from being a great team
Ryan Clark speaking facts. Stephen A smith got in his feelings Ryan Clark called him out for his fakeness of being a steelers fan. I thought it was disrespectful what he said of big Ben.
Bradshaw won 4 Super Bowls to Big Ben's 2...and that matters. That being said, THE original TB12 was surrounded by great players whom stayed togethor before free agency. Harris, Bleier, Swann, Stallworth and the greatest defense of all time (take that 85 Bears). Big Ben also played with great players like Miller, Brown, Bettis, Ward, etc. And like Bradshaw he too had great defenses to back him up. The difference to me is Big Ben won with different players. Unfortunately Big Ben had to go head to head against Manning and Brady who are arguably the 2 best to ever play QB. And I know Bradshaw had wars with Stabler and the Raiders and the Dolphins were pretty good too as were the Oilers once they got Campbell. But those teams don't measure up to Brady's Patriots nor Manning's Colts in my opinion. The Ravens with that defense were also in the mix. And that's why I give the nod to Big Ben cuz I feel though he only won half the Super Bowls Bradshaw did he did more with less. As a die hard Steeler fan I am just glad they both played their entire careers with Pittsburgh...
So Terry Bradshaw got 4 rings and he isn’t the best steeper QB. Because he had the steel curtain.! Brady has 6 rings not because of the kicker or his defense … Aite
@@debking3064 terry bradshaw was a mediocre qb at best, just look at his stats. he greatly benefited by playing with 8 hall of famers and a hall of fame coach.
Anyone born in 1960 will say Terry, anyone born in 1980 will say Ben. For me playing in an era where no one can touch you will never compare to an era where breaking bones was legal, not to mention 4 SB's. Bradshaw is the Mt Rushmore of Steeler QB's.
As a 80s baby I thought Ben was better actually but looking at Bradshaw resume it's Bradshaw. An it's not because of more SUPERBOWLS. It's having more MVP awards in Superbowl an Season
Terry Bradshaw.....won 4 super bowls in 6 years....him and joe greene were drafted before the Steelers started winning. So he is important to the teams success. He to me was better than Ben.....the teams they had to beat back then especially the raiders and dolphins.....nah
Peak Bradshaw ('77-'80 or thereabouts) was flat-out better than Ben ever was. He was, for a brief period, the best QB in the NFL. Ben was never that. Then again, Ben was never as bad as Early Bradshaw.
@@Q__tube no, stop being stupid. the point is that Bradshaw and Big Ben are similar in achievements and caliber of player thus the ring count matters. rings matter no matter the sport, your top 10 lists include players with multiple championships. don’t be that guy that says Horry is better than Jordan because 7 beats 6 by your logic. you can’t compare something like. some players get their rings by riding in the car, not driving it. yes rings are a team accomplishment, but it’s the ultimate goal. nobody plays to not win championships. some players are more impactful than others….come on bro.
@@Q__tube Wrong. Bradshaw was the Super Bowl MVP twice and had a whopping 112.8 Super Bowl rating. Ben's Super Bowls were won on defense but for 1 drive
Ben held the franchise back? With a terrible Oline in 2020, Ben led them to a 12-3 record, in 2021 with a historically bad oline and a bad defense Ben led them to a 9-7 record. Stephen A is a serious blowhard
Around the time that it came time for him to retire, he had terrible offensive lines. It just now started picking up as of last year but that's not really saying anything when you had a defense that would destroy a lead. Yes he's the quarterback so he gets some kind of blame but a lot of times, I don't care how many points you throw up on the board, if the defense bleeds whatever lead you have, there's only so much one man can do.
Its not just the oline. Even when Ben had time, he was just dumping the ball off to his recievers or running backs. He lost his greatest skills as a player. Thats why Pittsburgh had to change the offense that would fit Ben the finest.
@@DAcrisure and by the way. The quik release offense was formed because of the terrible O-line couldn't protect Ben, not because of Bens inability to throw. Of course his arm isn't what is was, before the elbow surgery. But this false narritive that Ben can't push the ball down field is laughable. ie see the Minnisota game. For some reason, they opened up the down field passing game, even though the Oline couldn't give Ben time(Ben got pummbled) but his down field ability was on display.
Well Ben kept forcing the ball to Wallace on the final drive instead of going underneath. Regardless of who's better you're showing your lack of NFL history knowledge. Bradshaw played in an era where you could chuck the reciever past 5 yds and there were no defenseless reciever rules. Ben was drafted by a team that had plenty of pieces, Bradshaw was drafted by the worst team in NFL history and thrown to the wolves with zero talent and those early years is the bulk of his interceptions. Once he had talent he called his own plays, won a league MVP, 2 Super Bowl MVPs and 4 Super Bowls in 6 years, back to back twice. He has a whopping 112.8 Super Bowl passer rating.
Stats because Bradshaw didn’t win those rings solely by himself. Put another other elite QB of that era on the 70s Steelers and you’d get the same result.
*TERRY BRADSHAW IS THE BEST QUARTERBACK IN PITTSBURGH STEELERS HISTORY, BEST DEFENCE IN 70S YES BUT THEY STILL NEEDED THE OFFENSE TO SCORE, BIG BEN IS SECOND BEST QUARTERBACK IN PITTSBURGH STEELERS HISTORY AND THAT IS NOT A BAD PLACE TO BE*
Terry was a great big game QB Ben was not....The eras were way different Brad would kill in this flag football era of the NFL,just imagine surviving one game getting slammed on astro-turf
Completely different eras. It's not comparing apples and apples. Terry Bradshaw was a killer in late game situations, and had one of the NFL's great arms. All of these young guys are standing on the backs of giants like unitas, bradshaw,marino, montana. All with ever changing NFL rules designed to help offenses. Of course the new generation are 'better' in that regard. They had the luxury of witnessing so many past greats and pioneers and playing at a time the rules clearly benifit offenses.
Some people know football some don't Terry Bradshaw had better players around him but he wasn't the quarterback that Big Ben was if Big Ben had played with the Steelers 70 team he would have 6 or 7 💍
Regardless of who's better you're showing your lack of NFL history knowledge. Bradshaw played in an era where you could chuck the reciever past 5 yds and there were no defenseless reciever rules. Ben was drafted by a team that had plenty of pieces, Bradshaw was drafted by the worst team in NFL history and thrown to the wolves with zero talent and those early years is the bulk of his interceptions. Once he had talent he called his own plays, won a league MVP, 2 Super Bowl MVPs and 4 Super Bowls in 6 years, back to back twice. He has a whopping 112.8 Super Bowl passer rating. You've never watched Bradshaw's highlights.
Ben wouldn't have had the luxury of watching all the great QBs that influenced his development if he played in the 70s. Plus his play style likely would have caused him far more injury issues as savage as defenses were back then. "We all stand on the backs of giants". Do you understand what I mean? Ben wouldn't be ben without the giants of the game.
If it were possible to have just one QB on the 1970's Steelers, who do you have, Terry or Ben? I have Terry. What about the Steelers from 2004-2021, Terry or Ben? I give the edge to Terry because of his arm, in a pass-first era.
Strictly from a fan perspective, and with my tongue FIRMLY in my cheek .....🙂 Having watched the entire careers of both Bradshaw and Big Ben, it's Terry Bradshaw. Trying to determine the "BEST" of anything MUST come down to pure numbers. Mainly, the Number of Championships won. Period, and done. Maybe Ben had a different demeanor in the locker room, dressed "cooler", could throw the ball farther, more accurate, or had LAZERBEAMS coming our of his eyes. Even if he had better stats in every category than Terry Bradshaw, .. how many super bowls were won? Is this not the ULTIMATE MEASURE of Greatness? Especially in Professional Sports? There is a tendency in this modern, hi tech, instant information age to DISCOUNT the great athletes of bygone days, especially by a generation of 20, 30 or 40 - something year olds who never saw a Bill Russell play basketball, or Pele' even kick a soccer ball. Never saw Pistol Pete Maravich do things with a basketball that the Globetrotters could only DREAM of doing. So, of COURSE the fresh, modern Stars MUST be the BEST at their crafts. Nikola Jokic MUST BE "light years" better than Wilt Chamberlain. REALLY? REALLY??? Perhaps. But Perhaps NOT. So .... who is better; Kyrie Irving or Pete Maravich?????? :-) OF course it's Maravich. Right????? It will always be subjective. And that's fine. But if Ryan Clark (whom I LOVE to hear his commentaries and greatly respect his opinions) thinks that Big Ben is the best Steeler ever, he has a right to his opinion. But that's all it will ever be, is his opinion. In fact, if Ben and Terry's time in the NFL were "Flipped" so that Ben played during Terry's time, and vice versa, I strongly believe Ryan's opinion would be that Bradshaw was the best. Now I obviously can't ACTUALLY control Ryan's choices, but my OPINION is that he would flip his choice. ESPECIALLY IF Bradshaw's 4 Super Bowl victories were newer and more recent ... "Fresh in the minds" of people. And replayed a Gazillion times on social media!!! I Love it. These kind of things - Wholesome Bantering back and forth, is what makes it all Extremely Entertaining, Enjoyable ... and LUCRATIVE for everyone who makes money from it all.. As well as every Sports fan from EVERY GENERATION. In closing, a question for R.C. ...... Word Association ..... If I say "Cowboys", who pops into your head first? Staubach or Aikman. Or maybe "Bullet" Bob Hayes?? Tom Landry or Jimmy Johnson? Ha ha. Dorsett or Smith????? Charlie Waters or Deion?????? On and on we go! (Oooops .... Robert Horry won 7 Rings, and M.J. only 6. So of COURSE that means ..... Bill Russell is the best EVER (Played 13 years, 12 Championship games; Won 11 of them) ............................................. 🙂
Absurd. Terry Bradshaw beat HOF-loaded Defences (Cowboys Doomsday Defence, Raiders 70's Defence, Minnesota's Purple People eaters) and beat them all. Yes he had that great Defence but remember; Defence isn't on the field when the Offence is. Big Ben won it twice against now-you-see-me-now-you-don't flash-in-the-pan teams. Burrows may not win this SB, but like Bradshaw before him and also Brady (now Belichick knows) has leadership powers that rouse a team, makes them WANT to take risks and brings intangibles to the WHOLE team that don't show in the QB's game stats. Bradshaw belongs to the very small, very elite group of 3 men who have won 4 or more Super Bowls; Brady, Bradshaw and Montana. Top that or eat it.
Ryan is right. Ben is head and shoulders better than Terry. Bradshaw had 4 great seasons and 5 or more poor ones. Terry was the worst quarterback in the league from 1970-74
Big Ben was good, but Terry Bradshaw was the king with help from Noll, Noll knew how to pick people who would help Terry win games, Terry had an arm like a Cannon with the same accuracy. Big Ben could get you down to the red zone but half of his attempts to get in where fails. While with Terry's arm he didn't have to get into the red zone, he got down to the 40 and that was all it took with his arm. I would take Terry Bradshaw any day of the week then Big Ben. (how many Super Bowls did Terry and Noll have in how long, now that is football with a team playing football) .
I think Stephen A in general is absurdly annoying. The notion that people are stupid enough to think that his antics are his legit views is insulting. Dude, it doesn't need to be a spectacle. Just have substance (hence Dan P. and Rich E. have their market). But his whole "shpiel" on Big Ben (and Stephen's been in NY long enough to know what "shpiel" means) is so far gone and beyond ridiculous. I don't blame Stephen A. I blame the producer who thought this angle was smart. Literally, jumping the shark - Fonzi says hi BTW.
Umm Terry Bradshaw Will Always be the best till someone else breaks 4 super bowls for the STEELERS then you have the best QB!! As it stands now 4 super bowls back to back twice is the best in my book for the steelers!!
Terry Bradshaw played with 9 other Hall of Famers on offense and defense. Most overrated quarterback in nfl history. Take away half those guys and he is not even close to hof.
Absolutely the most fair-weather fan I've ever seen! I'll never forget this man was clamoring for Tomlin to be traded so he could be the Cowboys HC 🤡‼️
Ben was not , and is not like Terry Bradshaw Bradshaw along with the rest of the team . Ben Roethlisberger and the now steeler team went to three super bowls guess what they couldn't get that 3rd win in super bowl 45 , Bradshaw an the old have 4 rings to the now team, the old Steelers struggled just the now team , the old games did not have rules of protecting the Quarterback.
It’s easy to say comparing them directly. Era for era however it’s really really tough. But Ben would definitely be picked first in a fantasy draft. Skill Level: Ben Impact: Terry Resume: Terry Stats: Ben
Stephen A would say yall need to grow up when he disrespect s an franchise icon suspend this man he bias loud n annoying.if im pittsburgh im goin at Steven a
I love steleers i'm a fan since 1979 ; the Best steleers QB que a habido is Terry bradswa. 4 súper bowls in 6 years ? Not Even Tom Brady has done that...& Besides Terry in play-offs was almost undefeatable...si Terry hubiera jugado 22 temporadas creo que llevaría más de 6 superbowls
Finally someone else is saying Stephen A is a fair weather fan besides me
I mean I’ve been saying he’s racially prejudiced for years
@@zach1389 Bruh
@@zach1389 You may think that but he's right about Ben being around 2 seasons too many. You don't
want someone's greatness to disappear when they play.
Part timers are scared to confront SAS since a word from Sas will get them remove from their jobs
He's great on *General Hospital* .
Stephen A. Smith says "Big Ben stayed two years too long." / For that to be true, whoever replaced him would have had to do better than 21 wins, 11 losses, 2 for 2 in playoff berths, an 11-game winning streak, and an AFC North crown. About 90% of NFL QB's would have been hard pressed to do any better with that offensive line.
Ben should’ve retired a long time ago. We had that streak because of good defense. Same reason Mason was 5-3 as a starter.
If there was an all-time Steelers team. Both QBs should be on it and I wouldn't care who would be the starter.
@@kenjaminhookes9536 still masón and duck didn't put up more than 17 points at times.
The Kenny Pickett era should have been Big Ben’s years
Ryan Clark def spoke facts wit the “Bias” word ‼️
Wow! Ryan Clark nailed this take!
SAS ain’t a real Pittsburgh fan. He could care less if they lose. Only supports them when they’re super bowl contenders.
Big Ben is an absolute legend!
2 Super Bowls
6 pro bowls
2 sexual assault cases dismissed
64085 yards
418 touchdowns
First ballot hall of famer!
Lol The cases dismissed differently make him 1st 🥇 ballot
😂😂😂😂🔥🔥
Weird people keep this energy with Big Ben yet its wrong when you bring up the Kobe stuff...
@@pineapplefresh4752 Which one is alive bro?
@@pineapplefresh4752 it’s not weird at all. Ones dead the other isn’t, not that hard to understand
I didn’t even think this was a debate honestly. Terry Bradshaw has 212 TD passes and 210 Interceptions
Regardless of who's better you're showing your lack of NFL history knowledge. Bradshaw played in an era where you could chuck the reciever past 5 yds and there were no defenseless reciever rules. Ben was drafted by a team that had plenty of pieces, Bradshaw was drafted by the worst team in NFL history and thrown to the wolves with zero talent and those early years is the bulk of his interceptions. Once he had talent he called his own plays, won a league MVP, 2 Super Bowl MVPs and 4 Super Bowls in 6 years, back to back twice. He has a whopping 112.8 Super Bowl passer rating.
@@80steen44 bradshaw played with 8 hof players, ben played with 3 in a more competitive era. what's that about lack of knowledge?! regardless of how you want to spin it, bradshaw was a mediocre qb
Can't compare stats different Era if you at the stats of quarterback from Bradshaw Era you'll that most of the quarterback inentercepion touchdown ratios are high cause back then you can actually play defense unlike today pass happy lead I still think big ben was the better quarterback just saying comparing stats doesn't tell whole story
I think Ben is better but Bradshaw had a cannon. you can’t compare stats in a run first, very physical era where you could jam way past 5 yards and recievers would get killed
@@80steen44 Fran Tarkenton, Johnny Unitas, and Roger Staubach weren’t chucking ints like Fred Flintstone Bradshaw.
Jalen retired Molly box and SAS went dumpster diving
Terry Bradshaw is overrated !!!!! He was carried by the “steel curtain “
No.
@@jamesanthony5681 yes
molly is hot but she talks to much
😂👌
Ben had to play in an era with Peyton and Brady. Sure Bradshaw had to play against some HOF Qb's, but not nearly the same level as those guys. Bradshaw also got to play with an entire team of HOF's.
And Tebow
Pat mcafee show>first take
So true
True
You have to compare QB's WITHIN AN ERA. 95% of 2022 QB's "have better stats" than Terry Bradshaw because 99% of rule changes since the 1970's have weakened defenses and benefitted offenses. I think Big Ben was better also, but the reason isn't an unfair "statistical comparison" between eras. The reason is because Terry Bradshaw played for a team with about 10 Hall Of Famers on it and another 2 or 3 that probably should be. Ben's supporting cast was "good". Terry's was insane.
Funny thing... in 76 they nerfed defense to slow down the steel curtain.
Instead it opened up the steelers pass game allowing strong armed bradshaw to bomb all over defenses to Swann and stallworth. 😅 They ended up winning 2 more titles after the infamous 76 nerf.
Bradshaw called his own plays. Was a gunslinger when it really mattered. 2x MVP. #12 did more when it mattered
12 had a better surrounding cast than Ben
Shut up Boomer
He did nothing, the steel curtain did it
Give me the steel Curtain I can win 1 sb.....
The Steel Curtain Defense did more when it matter.
Molly was tryna hit a high note tryna explain her point … That was Molly at her finest lol.
She just wouldn’t shut up
Well said Ryan 👏🏾
I know it’s a different era.
But look at Terry Bradshaws ridiculous rookie season
83/218 (38.1%), 1,410 Yards, 6 TDs, 24 INTs, 38.1 Passer Rating.
These are not typos. He was #1 overall pick that year.
thelegendsqb1 so is big ben I know it's a different era but he got away with different era but big ben had all them charges go away what about his victims
Terry Bradshaw made big plays in big games more often. Ben sometimes makes big plays against poor opponents. But more often than not didn't
Terry only passed for 3000 yards twice in his career and barely has more TDs than INT 212-210
Regardless of who's better you're showing your lack of NFL history knowledge. Bradshaw played in an era where you could chuck the reciever past 5 yds and there were no defenseless reciever rules. Ben was drafted by a team that had plenty of pieces, Bradshaw was drafted by the worst team in NFL history and thrown to the wolves with zero talent and those early years is the bulk of his interceptions. Once he had talent he called his own plays, won a league MVP, 2 Super Bowl MVPs and 4 Super Bowls in 6 years, back to back twice. He has a whopping 112.8 Super Bowl passer rating.
@@slothkng Regardless of who's better you're showing your lack of NFL history knowledge. Bradshaw played in an era where you could chuck the reciever past 5 yds and there were no defenseless reciever rules. Ben was drafted by a team that had plenty of pieces, Bradshaw was drafted by the worst team in NFL history and thrown to the wolves with zero talent and those early years is the bulk of his interceptions. Once he had talent he called his own plays, won a league MVP, 2 Super Bowl MVPs and 4 Super Bowls in 6 years, back to back twice. He has a whopping 112.8 Super Bowl passer rating.
Before Bradshaw went to the Steelers they were one of the worst teams in the NFL and help turn the team into one of the greatest teams in the history of the NFL when ben went to the Steelers they were a qb away from being a great team
Bradshaw was great but what about all those hall of fame & pro bowl draft picks that the Steelers hit on in the early 70s?
@Kira Capalot He had 5 seasons (out of 14) where he threw >=20 picks a year.
I cant remember but wont it the same for big ben
Ryan Clark speaking facts. Stephen A smith got in his feelings Ryan Clark called him out for his fakeness of being a steelers fan. I thought it was disrespectful what he said of big Ben.
He's also an eagles fan
An Aaron Rodgers fan
Whoever is great at the moment fan
18 years is the longest a QB has been with 1 team? I thought Brady was with the Pats for 20
I think they disqualified brady because he went to the Bucs instead of retiring with the pats
SAS doesn't know what legacy means its not what he did 2 years ago,its about a 18 years career worth of accomplishments.
Bradshaw won 4 Super Bowls to Big Ben's 2...and that matters. That being said, THE original TB12 was surrounded by great players whom stayed togethor before free agency. Harris, Bleier, Swann, Stallworth and the greatest defense of all time (take that 85 Bears). Big Ben also played with great players like Miller, Brown, Bettis, Ward, etc. And like Bradshaw he too had great defenses to back him up. The difference to me is Big Ben won with different players. Unfortunately Big Ben had to go head to head against Manning and Brady who are arguably the 2 best to ever play QB. And I know Bradshaw had wars with Stabler and the Raiders and the Dolphins were pretty good too as were the Oilers once they got Campbell. But those teams don't measure up to Brady's Patriots nor Manning's Colts in my opinion. The Ravens with that defense were also in the mix. And that's why I give the nod to Big Ben cuz I feel though he only won half the Super Bowls Bradshaw did he did more with less. As a die hard Steeler fan I am just glad they both played their entire careers with Pittsburgh...
So Terry Bradshaw got 4 rings and he isn’t the best steeper QB. Because he had the steel curtain.!
Brady has 6 rings not because of the kicker or his defense … Aite
Plus Ben never won any season MVPs or Superbowl MVPs
7 rings brady
Big Ben the truth ‼️
Terry Bradshaw has 4 super bowl championship enough said
Using that argument, Tent Dilfer is a better QB than Dan Marino.
Those 4 SuperBowls were won because of the Steel Curtain
@@Q__tube no respect
@@Q__tube Agreed & I'm a Steelers fan
@@debking3064 terry bradshaw was a mediocre qb at best, just look at his stats. he greatly benefited by playing with 8 hall of famers and a hall of fame coach.
Anyone born in 1960 will say Terry, anyone born in 1980 will say Ben. For me playing in an era where no one can touch you will never compare to an era where breaking bones was legal, not to mention 4 SB's. Bradshaw is the Mt Rushmore of Steeler QB's.
😂😂😂😂
As a 80s baby I thought Ben was better actually but looking at Bradshaw resume it's Bradshaw. An it's not because of more SUPERBOWLS. It's having more MVP awards in Superbowl an Season
Terry Bradshaw.....won 4 super bowls in 6 years....him and joe greene were drafted before the Steelers started winning. So he is important to the teams success. He to me was better than Ben.....the teams they had to beat back then especially the raiders and dolphins.....nah
Terry Bradshaw's TD to INT ratio pure 🚮🗑️
You cannot compared TD-INT ratios from the 1970s to the 2000s/2010s totally different sport/rules.
If you remove his dreadful rookie season it’s 206-186, which was pretty good for the era.
I hate the Steelers. But Bradshaw was a much better quarterback. No knock on Big Ben he was great. But Bradshaw was significantly superior.
Stephan A thought about his response all night after saying thank god 😂
Disrespectful saying that about big Ben
Peak Bradshaw ('77-'80 or thereabouts) was flat-out better than Ben ever was. He was, for a brief period, the best QB in the NFL. Ben was never that. Then again, Ben was never as bad as Early Bradshaw.
Not true terry has 4 Super Bowls… I will take Bradshaw
Super Bowls don’t mean everything
Team achievement not a QB one
So by that logic Nick Foles is a better quarterback than Dan Marino right? Those superbowls were won by defense
@@Q__tube no, stop being stupid. the point is that Bradshaw and Big Ben are similar in achievements and caliber of player thus the ring count matters. rings matter no matter the sport, your top 10 lists include players with multiple championships. don’t be that guy that says Horry is better than Jordan because 7 beats 6 by your logic. you can’t compare something like. some players get their rings by riding in the car, not driving it. yes rings are a team accomplishment, but it’s the ultimate goal. nobody plays to not win championships. some players are more impactful than others….come on bro.
@@Q__tube Wrong. Bradshaw was the Super Bowl MVP twice and had a whopping 112.8 Super Bowl rating. Ben's Super Bowls were won on defense but for 1 drive
Ben held the franchise back? With a terrible Oline in 2020, Ben led them to a 12-3 record, in 2021 with a historically bad oline and a bad defense Ben led them to a 9-7 record. Stephen A is a serious blowhard
Around the time that it came time for him to retire, he had terrible offensive lines. It just now started picking up as of last year but that's not really saying anything when you had a defense that would destroy a lead. Yes he's the quarterback so he gets some kind of blame but a lot of times, I don't care how many points you throw up on the board, if the defense bleeds whatever lead you have, there's only so much one man can do.
Its not just the oline. Even when Ben had time, he was just dumping the ball off to his recievers or running backs. He lost his greatest skills as a player. Thats why Pittsburgh had to change the offense that would fit Ben the finest.
@@DAcrisure and by the way. The quik release offense was formed because of the terrible O-line couldn't protect Ben, not because of Bens inability to throw. Of course his arm isn't what is was, before the elbow surgery. But this false narritive that Ben can't push the ball down field is laughable. ie see the Minnisota game. For some reason, they opened up the down field passing game, even though the Oline couldn't give Ben time(Ben got pummbled) but his down field ability was on display.
@@shioriryukaze defense is good
Man if Big Ben won tht super bowl against Rodgers wouldn’t even be spoken about 🤦🏽♂️
Rashard Mendenhall lost that game with that MF 🤬 fumble
Well Ben kept forcing the ball to Wallace on the final drive instead of going underneath. Regardless of who's better you're showing your lack of NFL history knowledge. Bradshaw played in an era where you could chuck the reciever past 5 yds and there were no defenseless reciever rules. Ben was drafted by a team that had plenty of pieces, Bradshaw was drafted by the worst team in NFL history and thrown to the wolves with zero talent and those early years is the bulk of his interceptions. Once he had talent he called his own plays, won a league MVP, 2 Super Bowl MVPs and 4 Super Bowls in 6 years, back to back twice. He has a whopping 112.8 Super Bowl passer rating.
Stat wise ....Big Ben..!
Once upon a time, Johnny Unitas was a Steeler.
Got cut
As was Len Dawson.
As a ravens fan w Ben n tomlin i nvr counted them out of a game.. always had my blood pressure up when we face yall 😭 enjoy your retirement 🤝
As a Steelers fan watching Ben play u guys always had me on the edge of my seat. So many great battles
Bradshaw won 4 Super Bowls so he's the better winner, but Ben has better stats
Take your pick: Rings or stats?
Stats because Bradshaw didn’t win those rings solely by himself. Put another other elite QB of that era on the 70s Steelers and you’d get the same result.
*TERRY BRADSHAW IS THE BEST QUARTERBACK IN PITTSBURGH STEELERS HISTORY, BEST DEFENCE IN 70S YES BUT THEY STILL NEEDED THE OFFENSE TO SCORE, BIG BEN IS SECOND BEST QUARTERBACK IN PITTSBURGH STEELERS HISTORY AND THAT IS NOT A BAD PLACE TO BE*
Agree an Big Ben is the 2nd greatest Steelers QB
I like Terry Bradshaw and Big Ben. I really don’t see the need to pick one over the other.
Terry was a great big game QB Ben was not....The eras were way different Brad would kill in this flag football era of the NFL,just imagine surviving one game getting slammed on astro-turf
YAWN.
Big Ben 2 super bowl wins,,,, moral compass 0 wins
Completely different eras. It's not comparing apples and apples.
Terry Bradshaw was a killer in late game situations, and had one of the NFL's great arms.
All of these young guys are standing on the backs of giants like unitas, bradshaw,marino, montana. All with ever changing NFL rules designed to help offenses.
Of course the new generation are 'better' in that regard. They had the luxury of witnessing so many past greats and pioneers and playing at a time the rules clearly benifit offenses.
Some people know football some don't Terry Bradshaw had better players around him but he wasn't the quarterback that Big Ben was if Big Ben had played with the Steelers 70 team he would have 6 or 7 💍
Regardless of who's better you're showing your lack of NFL history knowledge. Bradshaw played in an era where you could chuck the reciever past 5 yds and there were no defenseless reciever rules. Ben was drafted by a team that had plenty of pieces, Bradshaw was drafted by the worst team in NFL history and thrown to the wolves with zero talent and those early years is the bulk of his interceptions. Once he had talent he called his own plays, won a league MVP, 2 Super Bowl MVPs and 4 Super Bowls in 6 years, back to back twice. He has a whopping 112.8 Super Bowl passer rating. You've never watched Bradshaw's highlights.
Ben wouldn't have had the luxury of watching all the great QBs that influenced his development if he played in the 70s. Plus his play style likely would have caused him far more injury issues as savage as defenses were back then.
"We all stand on the backs of giants". Do you understand what I mean?
Ben wouldn't be ben without the giants of the game.
If it were possible to have just one QB on the 1970's Steelers, who do you have, Terry or Ben? I have Terry.
What about the Steelers from 2004-2021, Terry or Ben? I give the edge to Terry because of his arm, in a pass-first era.
@@jamesanthony5681 no lol
I can think of at least 4 reasons why Bradshaw is the best QB in Steelers history.
Name them then
Thx u Ryan he's not a true Steelers fan. He doesn't know any better. Appreciate u Big Ben!!
No it's Terry Bradshaw. Bradshaw was the MVP in 1978. And a 2 time SB MVP. Ben maybe got 3 MVP votes his entire career.
Ben was great. Terry was better.
Terry went to four Super Bowls, and never lost any.
Big Ben easily better than Bradshaw and if Big Ben had the talent Bradshaw for the duration of his career, he would have rings on both fingers easily
Strictly from a fan perspective, and with my tongue FIRMLY in my cheek .....🙂 Having watched the entire careers of both Bradshaw and Big Ben, it's Terry Bradshaw. Trying to determine the "BEST" of anything MUST come down to pure numbers. Mainly, the Number of Championships won. Period, and done. Maybe Ben had a different demeanor in the locker room, dressed "cooler", could throw the ball farther, more accurate, or had LAZERBEAMS coming our of his eyes. Even if he had better stats in every category than Terry Bradshaw, .. how many super bowls were won? Is this not the ULTIMATE MEASURE of Greatness? Especially in Professional Sports? There is a tendency in this modern, hi tech, instant information age to DISCOUNT the great athletes of bygone days, especially by a generation of 20, 30 or 40 - something year olds who never saw a Bill Russell play basketball, or Pele' even kick a soccer ball. Never saw Pistol Pete Maravich do things with a basketball that the Globetrotters could only DREAM of doing. So, of COURSE the fresh, modern Stars MUST be the BEST at their crafts. Nikola Jokic MUST BE "light years" better than Wilt Chamberlain. REALLY? REALLY??? Perhaps. But Perhaps NOT. So .... who is better; Kyrie Irving or Pete Maravich?????? :-) OF course it's Maravich. Right????? It will always be subjective. And that's fine. But if Ryan Clark (whom I LOVE to hear his commentaries and greatly respect his opinions) thinks that Big Ben is the best Steeler ever, he has a right to his opinion. But that's all it will ever be, is his opinion. In fact, if Ben and Terry's time in the NFL were "Flipped" so that Ben played during Terry's time, and vice versa, I strongly believe Ryan's opinion would be that Bradshaw was the best. Now I obviously can't ACTUALLY control Ryan's choices, but my OPINION is that he would flip his choice. ESPECIALLY IF Bradshaw's 4 Super Bowl victories were newer and more recent ... "Fresh in the minds" of people. And replayed a Gazillion times on social media!!! I Love it. These kind of things - Wholesome Bantering back and forth, is what makes it all Extremely Entertaining, Enjoyable ... and LUCRATIVE for everyone who makes money from it all.. As well as every Sports fan from EVERY GENERATION. In closing, a question for R.C. ...... Word Association ..... If I say "Cowboys", who pops into your head first? Staubach or Aikman. Or maybe "Bullet" Bob Hayes?? Tom Landry or Jimmy Johnson? Ha ha. Dorsett or Smith????? Charlie Waters or Deion?????? On and on we go!
(Oooops .... Robert Horry won 7 Rings, and M.J. only 6. So of COURSE that means ..... Bill Russell is the best EVER (Played 13 years, 12 Championship games; Won 11 of them) ............................................. 🙂
By far!😎
Big Ben was way better then Bradshaw!
Thank you for calling out Stephen A. Ryan Clark.
Absurd. Terry Bradshaw beat HOF-loaded Defences (Cowboys Doomsday Defence, Raiders 70's Defence, Minnesota's Purple People eaters) and beat them all. Yes he had that great Defence but remember; Defence isn't on the field when the Offence is. Big Ben won it twice against now-you-see-me-now-you-don't flash-in-the-pan teams.
Burrows may not win this SB, but like Bradshaw before him and also Brady (now Belichick knows) has leadership powers that rouse a team, makes them WANT to take risks and brings intangibles to the WHOLE team that don't show in the QB's game stats.
Bradshaw belongs to the very small, very elite group of 3 men who have won 4 or more Super Bowls; Brady, Bradshaw and Montana.
Top that or eat it.
Ryan is right. Ben is head and shoulders better than Terry. Bradshaw had 4 great seasons and 5 or more poor ones. Terry was the worst quarterback in the league from 1970-74
Big Ben was good, but Terry Bradshaw was the king with help from Noll, Noll knew how to pick people who would help Terry win games, Terry had an arm like a Cannon with the same accuracy. Big Ben could get you down to the red zone but half of his attempts to get in where fails. While with Terry's arm he didn't have to get into the red zone, he got down to the 40 and that was all it took with his arm. I would take Terry Bradshaw any day of the week then Big Ben. (how many Super Bowls did Terry and Noll have in how long, now that is football with a team playing football) .
I think Stephen A in general is absurdly annoying. The notion that people are stupid enough to think that his antics are his legit views is insulting. Dude, it doesn't need to be a spectacle. Just have substance (hence Dan P. and Rich E. have their market). But his whole "shpiel" on Big Ben (and Stephen's been in NY long enough to know what "shpiel" means) is so far gone and beyond ridiculous. I don't blame Stephen A. I blame the producer who thought this angle was smart. Literally, jumping the shark - Fonzi says hi BTW.
Terry Bradshaw 4X Super Champion!
Ryan Clark has lost his freaking mind!
Umm Terry Bradshaw Will Always be the best till someone else breaks 4 super bowls for the STEELERS then you have the best QB!! As it stands now 4 super bowls back to back twice is the best in my book for the steelers!!
The Steelers could have drafted Archie Manning and won just as much if not more than Overrated Bradshaw
Terry Bradshaw played with 9 other Hall of Famers on offense and defense. Most overrated quarterback in nfl history. Take away half those guys and he is not even close to hof.
Absolutely the most fair-weather fan I've ever seen! I'll never forget this man was clamoring for Tomlin to be traded so he could be the Cowboys HC 🤡‼️
This dude was cheering for the Cowboys and saying good things about them. Then when they lose he clowns on them. He does that with every team.
@@andrewhernandez8772 yep but u know if he could only watch one team it would be the Cowboys for the clout
Terry Bradshaw so average him and his team won four superbowls. God dam, imagine if he was considered good?
i am going to take Terry Bradshaw 1 reason never losing a SB
Clark smoking rocks or dope TB is the best player in Steelers history 💯💯
Are you being serious?
Ben was not , and is not like Terry Bradshaw Bradshaw along with the rest of the team . Ben Roethlisberger and the now steeler team went to three super bowls guess what they couldn't get that 3rd win in super bowl 45 , Bradshaw an the old have 4 rings to the now team, the old Steelers struggled just the now team , the old games did not have rules of protecting the Quarterback.
It’s easy to say comparing them directly. Era for era however it’s really really tough. But Ben would definitely be picked first in a fantasy draft.
Skill Level: Ben
Impact: Terry
Resume: Terry
Stats: Ben
Bradshaw was picked first in the REAL draft. And no, Ben just doesn't have Bradshaw's skill level.
@@toddjacksonpoetry Terry had a cannon.
Clutch: Ben
@@toddjacksonpoetry Bradshaw literally said if he got picked today he would be a third round pick
@@jayu7141 clutch: Bradshaw. Bradshaw is the definition of clutch.
Terry was goat before Tom 4 superbowl could have done more if he didn't get broken in half.
Stephen A would say yall need to grow up when he disrespect s an franchise icon suspend this man he bias loud n annoying.if im pittsburgh im goin at Steven a
Big Ben never called his own plays. And Tomlison is not Chuck Knolls either.
Bradshaw played under a set of rules not even close Bradshaw no.1
I totally disagree.. Bradshaw played in a tougher league when it was legal to hit the quarterback up top.. Terry called his own plays..
Also got carried by the steel curtain
its not that stephenA is wrong, it just seems disrespectful that his FIRST comment was "Thank God"
I love steleers i'm a fan since 1979 ; the Best steleers QB que a habido is Terry bradswa. 4 súper bowls in 6 years ? Not Even Tom Brady has done that...& Besides Terry in play-offs was almost undefeatable...si Terry hubiera jugado 22 temporadas creo que llevaría más de 6 superbowls
Ryan Clark tells truth about Stephen A, good job.
SAS you better look yourself in the mirror when you say we need to grow up. Of all people you need to grow up.
Bradshaw won 3 Super Bowls in the clutch 🤷🏾♂️
Ryan is on something, too many concussion because you're so wrong!
sorry ben got acussed of violating women sorry cant support him
Am still.trying to get over 43. Who left us. But 90 and 39 are here
RC you are worst than Stephen A, you always bury your old team.
I mens it is pretty much common knowledge ben is better than terry
Bradshaw has 4 super bowl Ring. Ben has 2
Terry Bradshaw is better than Ben
What is Ryan Clark talking about?....
Can Tomlin win without Ben?
Nope
@@raymondharris5800 The Steelers went 8-6 without Ben in 2019. Its possible.
Terry is the best QB the steelers ever had. Period.
220td 214it no he not that legendary steel curtain defenses is
And it's not even CLOSE!!!!! Terry's the equivalent to McMahon and Brad Johnson....
You're an absolute clown. 😅😅😅
I agree. Bradshaw was overrated 😂😭😂😭
So 2 SB beats 4 and MVP that’s crazy
That was really crazy Stephen A
Wrong!!! TB is the best QB for the Steelers.
Then Favre is also greater than Rodgers and Starr
He is.
Big Ben way better than Bradshaw by a long shot
Stephen A...is just a plain fool!
And u may be right . I thank big Ben is better then Terry
But he talks about Cowboys Fans.
Ryan Clark tripping ben was a creep
Ben is a better talent but Terry played in a harder era.
Terry never lost a superbowl.
Terry Bradshaw Won an NFL MVP. Ben may have received 3 votes his entire career for MVP. Bradshaw is a tad better.
Bradshaw tried to give the other teams wins. Most interceptions ever!