DITCH Your Drum Rack! Guide for Using Drum Stands With Electronic Drums | The eDrum Workshop
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2024
- How to use drum stands with electronic drums. Ideas for using drum clamps, snare stands, cymbal stands and tom mounts with eDrum pads and cymbals, along with mounting other accessories.
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00:00 - Aims of the Video
01:11 - Multi Clamps
02:30 - Cymbal Stands
03:19 - Kick Drums
04:01 - Snare & Tom Mounting
08:32 - Cymbals, Rotation Stoppers & Mounting
11:50 - Add Rack Parts to Stands
13:30 - Modules & Multipads
15:33 - Misc. Accessories
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Compatible with
► Roland SPD-S, SPD-SX, TM-6 Pro, TM-2, TD-50, TD-27, TD-17
► Alesis Strike Multipad, Strike Module
► Yamaha DTX Multi 12
► Pearl Mimic Pro
► dbdrums nPad, G4M DD90 Digipad and HXW PD-705
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Mapex Standard Multi Clamp
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Gibraltar Standard Multi Clamp
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Gibraltar SC-UGC Adjustable Multi Clamp
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Mapex Adjustable Angle Clamp
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DW Adjustable Multi Clamp
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Tama MC69 Multi Clamp (ball L-rod)
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Tama MTH900AS Tom Mount (vertical, L-rod)
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Straight Cymbal Stand
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Dixon Cymbal Grabber (Eyelet Clamp)
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Tama MC7 Compact Multiclamp (Eyelet)
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Tama MCA53 Cymbal Grabber & Arm
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Gibraltar SC-LRAC Percussion Clamp (Eyelt & 9.5mm rod)
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Pearl Tom Holder
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Gibraltar Ball Joint Tom Mount
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Gibraltar Multi Tom clamp
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Gibraltar Multi Tom clamp on pole
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Roland CYM-10 kit
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Roland rotation stopper spare part number 02457612
Alesis anti-spin rotation stopper
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Yamaha rotation stopper
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Roland base plate mount (metal)
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Gibraltar SC-EMMP module mount plate (metal)
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Gibraltar SC-PUGC Adjustable Grabber Clamp
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Gibraltar GEMC Clamp (mount laptop, multipad, mixer etc)
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Gibraltar GEMS Electronic Mounting Station (tripod)
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GEMS-TTOP
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Roland APC-33 All Purpose Clamp (with mount plate)
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Roland PDS-10 Tripod Mount
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Alesis Multipad Clamp
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Roland small (2 hole) mounting plate, adjustable
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Roland spares number - 5100029201
ESR Bike Phone Holder (mount phone to drum rack!)
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Gibraltar Power Rack Multi Clamp
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Gibraltar SC-EA250 Super Extension Arm Grabber Clamp
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Gibraltar SC-EA100 Extension Arm Clamp
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Drum Stick Holder
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Great video. No waffle, nice and concise and honest analysis!
Converted the wobbly rack stand on my Alexis Nitro max kit,good thing I have clamps and stands already.Metal tube cutters are great to have around too.Now my kit just looks sick now and rock solid/zero wobble. The Vid helped in the worst way.Getting one more clamp to attach my mixer.🛸🗽🤖
So drummers worldwide pay attention! Luke’s talkin’ about serious business!
I started using the Gibraltar stealth rack a couple years ago and it gives a very clean and sturdy layout. Recently realized I could clamp an extra bar to the rack and clamp my KD-9 to that. No more walking kick pad.
So cool! Couldn't you upload a picture of it sometime? 🙂
You kill it every time Luke! Hands down, this is THE BEST channel for all things e-drums here on YT and I for one, really appreciate all the time and amazing amount of effort you put into each and every video and your knowledge and the way you present it, is so impressive I am definitely going to do my part in spreading the word and buying more of those Edrum Workshop's expansion packs for my Roland TD27.
Check his expansion packs out if you haven't. They're really awesome! WAY better than any others I've tried, even Drum-Tec's IMO.
Thank you, David 🙏
Again Luke thank you!!!!! The beefy Gibraltar multi clamp to add a rack bar to my cymbals stands was exactly what I needed !!!!!! Now I can use my existing Roland rack tubes, cymbal, tom mounts so I don’t have to spend a fortune on new gear. Being able to use rack mounts with cymbal stand bases is so convenient and much less gear to have to haul around with me. I recently bought complete td-4K kit for very cheap on FB marketplace. I bought because it had brand new dw throne and the Roland mds-4 compact rack w/o the square bar welded to the middle long bars. Was able to disassemble and make new rack parts I needed for my kit. With the spare parts I made me own copy of the Roland folding portable rack for my spd-30 mini kit. So nice now I have can have all the trigger inputs in use plus the double KT-10 pedals, FD-8, ride, HH, snare and td-17 with midi host!!!!!’ So good for jamming with friends and not having to bring my whole kit, quick load in/out setup/tear down
I'm using my Yamaha DTX for the first time for a live show next week. So imma binge watch your videos! :)
How'd it go?
@@JesusLordOfLords455 better than expected. several people asked what edrum i was using. yamaha's stock sounds are way better than rolands
This has saved me a lot of time and money. Thanks!
Due to a hiatus from playing out, I am unable to use my acoustic set. I have a nice Roland set, but it came with a rather small rack, and had hoped to some day replace it. I decided to literally take my acoustic stands, and set up my electric components. Looks great and a bit more flexible.
Nice! Glad it worked out for you!
This is a very useful and informative video. Thank you so much.
Nice work mate. Very thorough and helpful. I myself have used a few of these tricks previously to move as many pads as possible off the rack and onto stands. 2 reasons, as it offers more flexibility of placement, instead of being restricted to a rack config, and also to eliminate cross talk issues and/or the need to fine tune cross talk settings, just easier to eliminate altogether by separating them onto stand (imo of course).
For someone like me that likes “presence” getting stands achieves filling out the kit too 😉
I made the switch from racks to stands about a two years ago when I shifted to full size e-drums instead of pads. I love the look of stands over racks, especially when I'm playing electronics which already look "different" than acoustic drums. I went with 3 stands with 2-3 tom/cymbal mounts built in. I avoided the whole clamp thing this way, and my stands look cleaner. For modules, to clean up floor, I am using the electronics mounting boom from Gibraltar. I combine the module and left aux cymbal stand. Does a good job positioning the module next to my hi-hat, where it was on my rack setup. For multipad, I use a dedicated stand to allow me to move it from the kit and play on it's own (used to take it to jams with friends before COVID).Great segment, thanks for putting out this video.
I was just thinking about this subject! You cover everything!
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Very thorough! Well done! 👏👏👏👏
There is a lot of designing for me to do!
Thank you! I've already rejigged my setup with stands only now 😅
Super informative 👍🏻
Love this! Love your content! Thanks!
Thank you!
Thanks for this video!!!!
Thank you
This was super helpful. I'm weirdly proportioned, so the rack that came with my TD-17KVX is too limiting to get perfect. I'll for sure pick up some clamps and stands.
great video- as someone running a Mimic Pro/TD-25/ATV Artist hybrid setup on a gibraltar rack I can say you pretty much covered everything I've had to experiment with.
I think maybe doing a massive setup would make for a cool video - say trying to use 2 kits and 2-3 modules into a drum program like SD3 and doing a large rack setup like something Danny Carey or Neil Peart would use (albeit electronic)
Once you get over a certain number of Tom's and cymbals it gets complicated fast - especially since you generally have multiple midi that has to be combined at the computer or at a midi junction box.
This is very helpful. I recently picked up a Roland TD-27KV2, and man, that rack was _not_ designed by a drummer. 😂 I play 1-up, 2-down, and I was able to make it work, but it was a fight, and I'm still not happy with where the second FT and module are. Definitely going to check out these options. Thanks!
I use stands exclusively and love it....all of mine allow for 3 items per stand (not using addl multiclamps)
Yeah, dude is a great help with this stuff.
I’m converting from a crap looking Roland rack to boom stands, just having mega anxiety over ordering (I already placed one...) the Tom mounts. Nobody tells you in the specs the L rod diameters, so, hopefully, I got the right ones.
I looked all over for those Natal clamps he has, but could not find them anywhere...
Yeah, it's annoying that they often don't have the sizes in the description. I usually end up looking them up across multiple sites, sometimes one will have it listed.
I had a look for the Natal clamps for the links in the description and could only find them on a few UK stores. They might have discontinued them, I bought mine discounted.
Hey @thedrumworkshop Luke, great video. Was just looking at my hardware to consider doing this, but got a thought. How do you manage the related cabling? The rack has the cabling Velcro to it. Suggestions for using stands?
So I recently bought the V-25 module and I don’t have any pads. I would like to create a kit that looks nothing like a kit, and this video is the closest thing to finding that idea explored, though it still seems to be centered on the branded pads you typically buy. I wonder if there are drum pads with inputs (maybe in an SP type device) that does the work, while allowing me to also cue patterns, from a standing position over a keyboard or while play guitar - again with the ability to begin playing a loop.
Are there snare stands for an 8'' snare (Alesis Nitro)?
Is there any cymbal set (Alesis or compatible) that I can add to the Alesis Nitro under 75 euros?
By set I mean cymbal, clamp,arm
Many thanks
Hi Luke, awesome video. Can you confirm that the Roland APC-33 will work with a TD-50? I’m trying to mount my TD-50 to a tripod stand like you demonstrated in your video. Looks like screws come separately too? Thanks again.
Yeah, the APC-33 should work fine with the TD-50. Base plate looks like the standard Roland one. I'm pretty sure the screws came with my TD-50 module, already in the screw holes.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop thank you very much Luke. I really appreciate your help. You’re right that my TD-50 has the screws in the bottom and I hadn’t noticed before. 🤦🏻♂️
how about a video about making cheap/old modules as good as possible? I'm trying everything with my roland td-3 but it's still very bad
I can only make content for modules I own and unfortunately I don't have a TD-3 any more or any older modules. Apologies. I remember the TD-3 being very limited with editing functions, not really sure how far it could be pushed.
Does it make sense to put a Roland PDX-12 on a snare stand? It's on the very thin side, but I'm annoyed by the lack of flexibility my MDS-Compact rack offers me...
I've seen other people do it, yeah. If you think it will make positioning easier then may as well try it out. I think most snare stands will probably go down to that size but if you can check before purchasing that would probably be a good idea!
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Alright, I shall give it a shot with my TAMA snare stand and see.
I used a snare stand with my 12" snare. Worked fine.
I go the entry level TD1k and jesus christ the rack is terrible.
EVERYTHING retriggers due to the resonating nature thin tube design.
Rebuilding the rack and make it more sturdy and seperate solved nearly all my trigger issues.
Great stuff as always Luke. Just wanted to share something related that I ran into for a 2 floor tom setup. I did not want to just use 2 snare stands but found most dual tom mount stands were slightly too high as they were designed for rack toms. I found the Tama makes a low stand that works perfect for them. When I was looking I could not find any other manufacturer that makes these so they typically run around $180 US. Here is a link in case it might help anyone else out there. www.tama.com/usa/products/detail/htw849w.html
Great stuff, really useful! Thanks!
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Just buttering you up to include Tommy Lee in the next famous pack. :)
Nice video, but I disagree with one of your "core tenets" here: Getting the most flexible stand you can afford is not necessarily the best way to go.
Honestly, I'd rather have a less flexible stand that's more stable and actually keeps the position properly than something that has more degrees of freedom, but wobbles around like crazy or even can't hold its position over time. I've had way too many cheap stands in my life that are a nightmare to adjust and / or drop down over time and need to be readjusted and retightened over and over and over again... Cheap stands are terribly frustrating over time.
So, in my opinion: Go for the stands and clamps that offer the freedom you actually need and then get the best quality you can afford.
Yeah, fair enough. If you find less flexible stands that are more solid but fit your needs and budget, that makes sense!
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