@well8250 Most of the map is Public/Private and most of the difficulty comes from civs. Things only get hairy at the end, where you have to mask up to EMP the market and disappear with Bile
Nice to see you trying pd3 man! The trikiest part of the heist is going around the trade booths, but got some general tips: 1st: to know wich elevator you deactivated, you need to follow the color pipe the lever has. 2nd: the pc office has buttons next to the windows to shut them. And 3rd: the correct papers have a "clasified" red text on top. Nice video!
Very true I reinstalled payday 2 recently and while its great and offers so much content Espicially on pc Payday 3 has so many good QOL features that are fun for gameplay
@@PodClips213 True yes, combined with mods it's a very nice change, I prefer the sound replacements though, like the guard yelling "GET OUTTTTTTT" after escorting me out of private areas while I wait for my teammates to stealth, the yee yee a** haircut radio hack, etc lol
pro tip: if you want to insert the USB key you have grabbed from the safe, you don't need to go further, just go to the nearest booth and put the USB key there. oh, and... probably this will be useful for who usually ruining stealth like me but, there's the switch beside the glass to close the curtain that may be useful when you're on pickle (alerting the civ inside the Jordan / SwapMeet building) and then you can just tie the civ safely. still about tying civ if you alerting the civ unintentionally, you can tie civ safely and bring it to Transfer Control since no guards or civ will entering that room (except you forget to close the door)
Hint to finding the power box for the elevator: only lockpick the door that has the hazard electrical symbol next to it. Then, for finding the elevator, lock pick the door to the 2 elevators with the corresponding color of what is connected to the electrical box. You can also close the shutters in Jordan investments with these small white buttons to the right of them. Edit: I see you figured that out 😂
Some advice from someone who just did this after 12 failed attempts when you go to all the offices, you can close the blinds and no guard go into those rooms also no guards go into the control room also where you hide those 2 guys behind the desk isn’t safe because a main guard will spot them when he comes in through the single door also when setting the emp and setting it off just run to the zip line and ignore the guard the exit doesn’t change
I haven't watched the full vid yet, but I want to offer a small correction, there is unmasked stealth but it requires a pre-planning asset. The story is that you get snuck in with some kinda tour group. Starting inside the exchange makes the heist laughably easy as it can be done in roughly 10 minutes if you go for the max 10 million exchange value.
PD3's stealth is quite rigged in both search mode and in normal I hate it. I was doing 99 boxes one day (after the servers "stabilized" around release) and when I was about to escape, I wanted to experiment with the guard that roams around that right side ticket booth since he can path behind the small box near the truck you're supposed to escape from. Well, I waited for him behind the crate (which is a deadend but you can hide around it since it's tall enough) until he pathed in front of the truck. I stayed there, never got spotted or detected even a bit, and he immediately started walking in my direction, into a deadend, which he probably never did previously. Regardless, I crouched around the box hiding from him, and guess what, he went back to the truck, and straight back to me. This kept repeating until I left. Guards are attracted to your position? Stealth is rigged? Well, this is not a very solid test to reach that conclusion, but it might be in search mode, because I see this "phenomenon" quite often like what hapened to you in 32:15 (dropped body in elevator shaft) and 36:00 (both guards went straight to where the body was and since it's inaccessible they remained stuck trying to path to it, without having any information about it or it being in a bad spot) (before you read this just know that I'm not hating on the game, this is just my opinion) So, in conclusion: - The guards are naturally attracted to your live position in normal stealth even though this may be unnoticeable during normal gameplay (since you're constantly moving and this effect is not spontaneous and requires you to stay in position to actually notice) - The guards are naturally attracted to dead bodies (as well as hostages most likely) during search mode, which tries to be punishing to reckless stealth that did not fail the player yet, so you're not getting a legitimately "free" extra pager after you run out, because the game rigs the AI pathing against you. - This might be a bit of a stretch but I really hate the map design of this heist in particular, in the middle area where you had to gain access through the circuit breakers, three times in a row, running back and forth. This has got to be the cheesiest objectives to maximize the chances of getting spotted, not only because of the absolute chaos of the civilians down there, but the multiple corners and slight lack of cover? and the tiny gaps within the tolls especially around the 5 billion screens surrounding you. At some point in the video, you were literally unable to stop moving just to barely avoid detection by civilians from every direction. Personally, that is not good map design. To me, stealth is supposed to require you figuring out the objectives, scouting possible paths to the objective, planning the path, catching the right timing, clearing the area of wandering NPCs and guards, then executing the plan, this is all to minimize the risk of getting detected or surprised. This part of the heist is just horrendous, the fact you have to do this 3 times in a row to enter 3 different codes from 3 different tolls, after already going down there for the USB objective is just tedious. I know I went into quite a rant here but that's just my opinion. I don't like these heists. I used to be a stealthy boi in PD2, used to love learning new heists, trying different ways to stealth around, different loadouts, learned tips for each map, etc, even tried to speedrun multiple times, was a bunch of fun. Loved loud as well, was a death wish enjoyer since I'm not great at DSOD by any means, but it was plenty. In PD3, I became a 99% Loud enjoyer, because that's the only way this game could be fun for me, stealth is just boring and tedious *to me*. Even the matchmaking systems they have are not even good enough, I only have one stealth loadout and a hybrid one (that kinda sucks) so if I play online, and I get matched with people that want to stealth, I just sit back and let them do the work. Eventually, they mess up and the heist goes loud, which makes them all leave and I then go in and keep playing loud from there. A simple Stealth/Loud filter would fix this. I'm not interested in stealth, especially some of the heists I dislike even more (cough under the surphaze cough murky station (ik controversial but I preferred the pd2 version anyways)) Thanks for the content, this one was spectacular! (pls don't hate on me I just like pd2 lmao) Edit: For this heist I don't think you could get "all bags" can we? might just be an unavailable bonus since it's not bag based And also, have you experimented/checked out some of the mods for pd3? imo there are some mods that I consider "essential" which are very nice to have! (ps 1.2million for all that work sounds very low though)
still. niely done! you got any opion on boys in blue and Syntax error by the way? And me, i tend to hide the bodies in the cointrol room, as guards dont enter normally, or the elevator you come in
got a question for you Marcmb! do you think this mission was rushed? i found many glitches while playing it both loud and stealth. also im loving the extra attention you're giving to PAYDAY 3 now!
if you play in solo mode every attempt is randomised like in pd2 but when online then every run is same if you restart same phones keycards cams locations which dont make sense
thanks for making this vid, on my first and only stealth playthrough Diana was silent the whole time which made me feel very lost confused and bored so i might actually give the heist a go again after this vid. 19:00 Also medkits can be really good as waypoints for lures or security rooms since they stay perma highlighted when you place them down. They're also good if you just take a big fall that takes half your health and you don't wanna die the next time you take said fall, there's really no reason not to take them
Poorly designed heist, can't climb anywhere, also why did they put objectives in this weird order, why would anyone crawl with a bag until the elevators are turned off, it should be the other way, firstly turn off the elevator and after that grab a bag and set it up. In my opinion, they've gone a little bit too extreme with the amount of cameras in starting location.. And in some parts stealth seems tedious..
I say finally we stealth guys got a difficult heist... Civs are a real threat here and you have to keep in mind their position all the time. The only difficult heist in payday3 was 99 boxes but just because you have too rush to get max value, and that's just not fun, while going around the boots to find codes gives you the chills because you are masked surrounded by civs.
"cant climb anywhere" what does this even mean? Where are you climbing in a payday game? This heist is really fun except when your team is good at stealth so you just stand afk waiting for max stock value
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Unmasked stealth is possible using a favor. It makes the heist pretty trivial too.
Elaborate?
you spawn inside without masks @@well8250
@well8250 Most of the map is Public/Private and most of the difficulty comes from civs. Things only get hairy at the end, where you have to mask up to EMP the market and disappear with Bile
@@jacksonsutrick1361 the masking to emp feels like its a bug too
"Short Concord's Stocks" Well that aged well
Nice to see you trying pd3 man!
The trikiest part of the heist is going around the trade booths, but got some general tips:
1st: to know wich elevator you deactivated, you need to follow the color pipe the lever has.
2nd: the pc office has buttons next to the windows to shut them.
And 3rd: the correct papers have a "clasified" red text on top.
Nice video!
I love how the first time he just jumps into the huge elevator hole instead of placing the zipline.
Loving the new PAYDAY 3 uploads! A great change of pace compared to the usual PAYDAY 2 videos.
Very true
I reinstalled payday 2 recently and while its great and offers so much content
Espicially on pc
Payday 3 has so many good QOL features that are fun for gameplay
@@PodClips213 True yes, combined with mods it's a very nice change, I prefer the sound replacements though, like the guard yelling "GET OUTTTTTTT" after escorting me out of private areas while I wait for my teammates to stealth, the yee yee a** haircut radio hack, etc lol
pro tip: if you want to insert the USB key you have grabbed from the safe, you don't need to go further, just go to the nearest booth and put the USB key there.
oh, and... probably this will be useful for who usually ruining stealth like me but, there's the switch beside the glass to close the curtain that may be useful when you're on pickle (alerting the civ inside the Jordan / SwapMeet building) and then you can just tie the civ safely.
still about tying civ if you alerting the civ unintentionally, you can tie civ safely and bring it to Transfer Control since no guards or civ will entering that room (except you forget to close the door)
Hint to finding the power box for the elevator: only lockpick the door that has the hazard electrical symbol next to it. Then, for finding the elevator, lock pick the door to the 2 elevators with the corresponding color of what is connected to the electrical box.
You can also close the shutters in Jordan investments with these small white buttons to the right of them.
Edit: I see you figured that out 😂
i just can't get over how blue the trading floor is
The color grading is something they’re looking to fix. It’s genuinely painful to look at at times
Like in Battlefield 3
@@manonfiregames9088 I hope they fix the bloom too. Walking between certain areas strains my eyes
boys in blue
@@schlop1771 “A really big fucking blue coming right up”
- Thermite, probably
the second a difficult heist gets into payday 3 he awakens
Why in payday 3 and not real life? MARCMB could easily ECM Rush IRL
@@marekpupin-fw8vq Agreed, he could ECM rush a bank irl
6:15 "Go down!" four seconds later "Dallas is downed!"
he needs a medic bag!
Marc followed the instructions, a bit too fast
By the way the TVs in the main are distranct civs forever. Atleast for me it was like that. It clears the place up nicely.
very cool! thanks for doing more payday 3!
It would be fascinating seeing what an ECM rush looks like now with the scrambler line and the assassin line.
Some advice from someone who just did this after 12 failed attempts when you go to all the offices, you can close the blinds and no guard go into those rooms also no guards go into the control room also where you hide those 2 guys behind the desk isn’t safe because a main guard will spot them when he comes in through the single door also when setting the emp and setting it off just run to the zip line and ignore the guard the exit doesn’t change
I haven't watched the full vid yet, but I want to offer a small correction, there is unmasked stealth but it requires a pre-planning asset. The story is that you get snuck in with some kinda tour group. Starting inside the exchange makes the heist laughably easy as it can be done in roughly 10 minutes if you go for the max 10 million exchange value.
PD3's stealth is quite rigged in both search mode and in normal I hate it.
I was doing 99 boxes one day (after the servers "stabilized" around release) and when I was about to escape, I wanted to experiment with the guard that roams around that right side ticket booth since he can path behind the small box near the truck you're supposed to escape from.
Well, I waited for him behind the crate (which is a deadend but you can hide around it since it's tall enough) until he pathed in front of the truck. I stayed there, never got spotted or detected even a bit, and he immediately started walking in my direction, into a deadend, which he probably never did previously.
Regardless, I crouched around the box hiding from him, and guess what, he went back to the truck, and straight back to me. This kept repeating until I left. Guards are attracted to your position? Stealth is rigged?
Well, this is not a very solid test to reach that conclusion, but it might be in search mode, because I see this "phenomenon" quite often like what hapened to you in 32:15 (dropped body in elevator shaft) and 36:00 (both guards went straight to where the body was and since it's inaccessible they remained stuck trying to path to it, without having any information about it or it being in a bad spot)
(before you read this just know that I'm not hating on the game, this is just my opinion)
So, in conclusion:
- The guards are naturally attracted to your live position in normal stealth even though this may be unnoticeable during normal gameplay (since you're constantly moving and this effect is not spontaneous and requires you to stay in position to actually notice)
- The guards are naturally attracted to dead bodies (as well as hostages most likely) during search mode, which tries to be punishing to reckless stealth that did not fail the player yet, so you're not getting a legitimately "free" extra pager after you run out, because the game rigs the AI pathing against you.
- This might be a bit of a stretch but I really hate the map design of this heist in particular, in the middle area where you had to gain access through the circuit breakers, three times in a row, running back and forth. This has got to be the cheesiest objectives to maximize the chances of getting spotted, not only because of the absolute chaos of the civilians down there, but the multiple corners and slight lack of cover? and the tiny gaps within the tolls especially around the 5 billion screens surrounding you. At some point in the video, you were literally unable to stop moving just to barely avoid detection by civilians from every direction.
Personally, that is not good map design. To me, stealth is supposed to require you figuring out the objectives, scouting possible paths to the objective, planning the path, catching the right timing, clearing the area of wandering NPCs and guards, then executing the plan, this is all to minimize the risk of getting detected or surprised. This part of the heist is just horrendous, the fact you have to do this 3 times in a row to enter 3 different codes from 3 different tolls, after already going down there for the USB objective is just tedious.
I know I went into quite a rant here but that's just my opinion. I don't like these heists.
I used to be a stealthy boi in PD2, used to love learning new heists, trying different ways to stealth around, different loadouts, learned tips for each map, etc, even tried to speedrun multiple times, was a bunch of fun. Loved loud as well, was a death wish enjoyer since I'm not great at DSOD by any means, but it was plenty.
In PD3, I became a 99% Loud enjoyer, because that's the only way this game could be fun for me, stealth is just boring and tedious *to me*.
Even the matchmaking systems they have are not even good enough, I only have one stealth loadout and a hybrid one (that kinda sucks) so if I play online, and I get matched with people that want to stealth, I just sit back and let them do the work. Eventually, they mess up and the heist goes loud, which makes them all leave and I then go in and keep playing loud from there. A simple Stealth/Loud filter would fix this. I'm not interested in stealth, especially some of the heists I dislike even more (cough under the surphaze cough murky station (ik controversial but I preferred the pd2 version anyways))
Thanks for the content, this one was spectacular! (pls don't hate on me I just like pd2 lmao)
Edit: For this heist I don't think you could get "all bags" can we? might just be an unavailable bonus since it's not bag based
And also, have you experimented/checked out some of the mods for pd3? imo there are some mods that I consider "essential" which are very nice to have!
(ps 1.2million for all that work sounds very low though)
this new ecm skill line feels like it was meant for you :)
You can use the micro cam on the outside of the control room doors so that when they are closed, you can see if there's a guard on the outside
I wasn't expecting PD3 video
still. niely done! you got any opion on boys in blue and Syntax error by the way?
And me, i tend to hide the bodies in the cointrol room, as guards dont enter normally, or the elevator you come in
got a question for you Marcmb! do you think this mission was rushed? i found many glitches while playing it both loud and stealth. also im loving the extra attention you're giving to PAYDAY 3 now!
the whole game is rushed
if you play in solo mode every attempt is randomised like in pd2 but when online then every run is same if you restart same phones keycards cams locations which dont make sense
NOOOOOOOOOOO MY NYFE STOCKS WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?! 😭
What do you mean by we don't have rats in pd2 mens. We even have heist for finding rat. SMHF.
is it new heist?
Yeah
uhh you drained 10m in stocks and only got payed 1.2m WTF
this hurts xd
the gameplay looks like you are a new player that never touched payday3 before XD
penguin 🐧
thanks for making this vid, on my first and only stealth playthrough Diana was silent the whole time which made me feel very lost confused and bored so i might actually give the heist a go again after this vid. 19:00 Also medkits can be really good as waypoints for lures or security rooms since they stay perma highlighted when you place them down. They're also good if you just take a big fall that takes half your health and you don't wanna die the next time you take said fall, there's really no reason not to take them
holaaa
6:20 at least you set up the zipline!
payday 3 😆
I thing you dont know the PAYDAY 3 lore :/
omg 6th
marcmb now oficially washed
If the video is payday 3 it's not for me
Poorly designed heist, can't climb anywhere, also why did they put objectives in this weird order, why would anyone crawl with a bag until the elevators are turned off, it should be the other way, firstly turn off the elevator and after that grab a bag and set it up. In my opinion, they've gone a little bit too extreme with the amount of cameras in starting location.. And in some parts stealth seems tedious..
@@Avdeev77 You can turn off the elevators and then get the bag. It doesn't matter which order you do it.
I say finally we stealth guys got a difficult heist... Civs are a real threat here and you have to keep in mind their position all the time. The only difficult heist in payday3 was 99 boxes but just because you have too rush to get max value, and that's just not fun, while going around the boots to find codes gives you the chills because you are masked surrounded by civs.
"cant climb anywhere" what does this even mean? Where are you climbing in a payday game? This heist is really fun except when your team is good at stealth so you just stand afk waiting for max stock value
the game looks bad
36:50, there are no bags
There's no fall damage in this game!
6:17