I ride a 2022 FXLRST and before that a 2008 Roadglide that I bought new. My ST is definitely set up club style 10.5 pullback risers, Odi mid bends, whiplash seat. The most comfortable and aggressive bike I have owned. Loren was right on when he said “ legs forward you’re not ready to make immediate corrections “. Spot on! If your ride isn’t reliable what’s the point. Thanks Mooch for the content.
If you ask Dago, they'll tell you it was their Charter who started building the bikes this way. If you ask Ventura… they'll say it was them. Either way, it started with the HAMC, set up for high speed and functionality
Haha the most recent dyna I bought had short shots, 10” t bars, forward controls, and a t sport fairing. The biggest reason I bought it was because you can tell it wasn’t rode far or hard at all 😂 the first thing I did was scrapped the short shots and forward controls. I’m not in the club life anymore but I’m still not scared to cross multiple states on my dynas or fxr’s im hoping to see a comeback once these baggers get played out. Anyone can hop on a bagger and do miles, I loved seeing the old times back in the day putting serious miles on stripped down bikes.
Imo, the bagger phase will never die out. It will always be a thing as will club style. Obviously, you have to actually ride one, either one, to really know why.
Usually back then, motorcycles is about either "function over form" or "form over function". But the way I see it, clubstyle is like a middle ground to that. Getting your bike to perform at it's peak without sacrificing comfort and style.
This was a good video, the definitive origins when it came to Clubstyle are usually shrouded and left up to speculation. An already niche coterie that gets even more niche outside of the West Coast and United States respectively. Especially with how it evolved and diverted and even split between the stunting scene of it and the mile crushing scene.
Losall..my dude! What’s up? Good to see you’re still making the fairing kits. Mooch, enjoyed the episode. Not many clubstyle bikes in my state, lots of baggers lol.
I’m no biker man but I have a huge interest in it. Not gonna lie man your perspective on a lot of things I respect you seem like genuine guy! I’m also from Portland Oregon!
Funny, I didn’t have any idea anybody was doing all this when I did it to my 02 Wide Glide, brought that bike home brand spanking new (bought it on Sep 11, 2001 and it came in early January 2002) and took that bike home and put it in the garage for the winter, stripped it and made it my own. It has metamorphised several times since then but still runs and rides good for whatever I want to do with it. This was interesting listen. Thanks 🙏🏼
I always rode a fxdx super glide sport , gunfighter seat style , 1/4 fairing , 6" risers ,with sportster bars , being a Ventura hells angels for 10 yrs rode 100 mph splitting lanes in traffic because I'm not stopping because it's either the law or the black and white behind you lol no offence moochlol😅
Excellent content Mooch Man! I myself ride a 2007 Dyna Street Bob Monster Chopper Trike due to an accident at work in the Quarry where I was in charge of Explosives Operations for 29 years, left me with a crippled left leg in 2009, Would have loved to have had a LRST But to trike it would destroy that handling that people say about, I wish that the LRST was around when I bought my brand new Fatboy back in 1992, it would have been a way better option for me back then, but no at the age of 60 my Ol' Skool Chopper Trike is just right for me and my Ol' Lady Jules, Mike from Wales over here in the UK 👍🤘😎🏴
I remember when you started building up your switchback and reached out to me after I had set up mine with big bear choppers fairing. Now the low rider st is just a modern switchback
It used to be a lot harder to get the parts we wanted for that look. And I agree. The switchback was a shot in the right direction but missed. The ST was right on target
Thank you sir. It’s been hit and miss. Been working on some other projects and been on other people’s channels so I haven’t been giving mine the attention it deserves
"Sport fairing with ape hangers... that just sets me off." Shot right at me 🤣🤣🤣 what if theyre mini-apes? 😂 i got the minis because it was different than the t-bars i saw everyone else doing, and i seem to be able to whip the bike around just fine. I am a newb though 🤷♂️🤣
If memory serves me right didnt the Frisco HA and maybe oakland use sporty tanks and modify the fuel tank on an angle with the spout at the very top to get more gas in the tank?
To me club style is just the result of making the bike function better. More lean angle. Better geometry.. ditch the choppered out rake. and some wind protection.
Ya that’s what I’ve heard came from so cal club style just a certain club rocked that style at those times now it involved ‼️ dynas and fxrs weren’t really kool. then came along tv show series now everybody wanted one 😂3:55
This was Great!! Hasn't motorcycle culture always been a bit of a fashion show? The whole thing with motorcycles is how you outwardly express yourself as an individual even within a MC. I do get the frustration of the social media clout chasing that is winning in the algorithm over racking miles. Maybe motorcycles are just the late bloomers to the phony/poser influencer plague that has been thriving on the rest of Social media.
Speaking on reliability is the reason I chose my 20 Lrs over the 16/17 Dyna. I wanted the Dyna bad!!! But couldn’t justify the reliability problems of it over the m8. At the end of the day I want to ride to my destination and know that I’m gonna make it there.
@@OnePercenterBBNCBC not from the research I have done. You might want to go do some research yourself. 110se eats lifters every 10k and is known to spin crank bearings at 50k. The cost to fix this compared to what it cost to build a m8 is a whole different topic. Not to mention the “dyna wobble”. The softail out performs the dyna in handling as well.
@@Saturdays_We_Volunteer your “research”? Ok bud. Come back to me when you have 20 years as a certified master HD technician under your belt. The twin cam motor as a whole, is far more reliable than the Milwaukee 8 has been since it was released. 🥱
@@OnePercenterBBNCBC if you are a “certified technician” then you yourself would know the softail is the better performing platform. All of the “certified technicians” I know tell me m8 over twin cam. Ok I might have to replace a compensator. Whoopie!?!? A cam swap in a m8 produces way better numbers than a twin cam has to offer also.
to me the fxr hardtail with Tbars and mids is the ultimate club bike, fast, dependable n badass..Dyna's are nice but not a fan of fuel injected i had a lot of issues with my dyna, the evo fxr is a simpler design easier to wrench on if needed no bullshit censors
I have a 250 and a 1200 but the 250 has a 34inch seat hight and i love it. Kinda hate my Harley cuz its much lower with forward controls but the 250 has no power
I love the bike styles! Club, vicla, cholo, super redneck, classic stock, Bosozoku!!, naked, street fighter, stunt and so many more. Also who made their own parts? It was a pain but once you get it, no more overpriced goods
I agree with you about the Road Glide Special. I rode across country twice and it’s a dependable, comfortable and joy to ride, all day. I also have two Dyna Wide Glides 👍🏻 Great video content guys !
I'm planning on getting either an FXR, DYNA, or a soft tail Low Rider S. I will definitely go club style. I like the look of the +1.5, 2" forks. But, hear people say they ride terrible like that. Is this true? I just can't see so many people in the clubs, who are riding hard using something that made their bikes run like crap?
Awesome video very informative and educational videos on motorcycles. God bless you Mooch, Buddha bless your family.❤❤❤😊😊😊 😂😂😂❤❤❤😅😅😅😍🔥❤️ #USMC #USAF #RCAF #RCMP #NASA #INAGAWA-KAI-FACTION #YAMAGUCHI-GUMI-CLAN #HUMANITARIAN #AMNESTY
Performance Built > Clubstyle I see too many posers riding these "clubstyle" bikes with tons of money on it but can't even drag a peg around a corner. Go look at someone's bike and if they don't have scrape marks on the bottom of their lifted bikes pegs then they are just posers. Go look at Kruesi Orginals bikes.
"club style" is a copout for dudes who can't admit they got into riding because of Sons of Anarchy. Did the show invent it? No. Absolutely not, but the show brought it to light and made it popular.
I got a Syndicate Ventura Style bracket on my bike. I’m in a BIG4 East Coast club and a bunch of brothers CRY that my headlight is too high. It hits them in the eyes when they look at their mirrors 😭😭😭😭😭 I’m like grow up I don’t even have mirrors Lol
Just my opinion but when all the FXR’s are parked at a show or at the bar they all look the same. Same bars same fairing same pipes and seat. The only real way to stand out anymore is you gotta CHOP your FXR or dyna.
As a sport bike guy, its hilarious to me to listen to these two talk about "fast harleys" and "taking corners at 100 mph" LOL. I mean if you think a 70 hp 600 pound bike is fast......ok
Perfect topic what a video great idea Justin and rad to see 81 and black and white sitting down and talking positive !!!
Realist motorcycle talk on UA-cam… Mooch keep killing it.
I ride a 2022 FXLRST and before that a 2008 Roadglide that I bought new. My ST is definitely set up club style 10.5 pullback risers, Odi mid bends, whiplash seat. The most comfortable and aggressive bike I have owned. Loren was right on when he said “ legs forward you’re not ready to make immediate corrections “. Spot on! If your ride isn’t reliable what’s the point. Thanks Mooch for the content.
Love the content!! Great job, Mooch
If you ask Dago, they'll tell you it was their Charter who started building the bikes this way. If you ask Ventura… they'll say it was them. Either way, it started with the HAMC, set up for high speed and functionality
Haha the most recent dyna I bought had short shots, 10” t bars, forward controls, and a t sport fairing. The biggest reason I bought it was because you can tell it wasn’t rode far or hard at all 😂 the first thing I did was scrapped the short shots and forward controls. I’m not in the club life anymore but I’m still not scared to cross multiple states on my dynas or fxr’s im hoping to see a comeback once these baggers get played out. Anyone can hop on a bagger and do miles, I loved seeing the old times back in the day putting serious miles on stripped down bikes.
Imo, the bagger phase will never die out. It will always be a thing as will club style. Obviously, you have to actually ride one, either one, to really know why.
I have a 85 fxrt “ custom “ with 14” T bars and RT fairing with mids. You are definitely “ready “ to ride fast and very aggressive. I love my fxr
Usually back then, motorcycles is about either "function over form" or "form over function". But the way I see it, clubstyle is like a middle ground to that. Getting your bike to perform at it's peak without sacrificing comfort and style.
@themooch Great episode. Much Respect to you both.
This was a good video, the definitive origins when it came to Clubstyle are usually shrouded and left up to speculation. An already niche coterie that gets even more niche outside of the West Coast and United States respectively. Especially with how it evolved and diverted and even split between the stunting scene of it and the mile crushing scene.
That is something we could have touched on more. Stunt riders vs distance riders. Thank you
That FXR at 3:25 is set up so sick. Ness swingarm and more brake on the rear of it than my whole damn bike lol
Losall..my dude! What’s up? Good to see you’re still making the fairing kits.
Mooch, enjoyed the episode.
Not many clubstyle bikes in my state, lots of baggers lol.
@@asdetailshop yeah, I'm on the East Coast and almost never see them.
I’m no biker man but I have a huge interest in it. Not gonna lie man your perspective on a lot of things I respect you seem like genuine guy! I’m also from Portland Oregon!
Bro get a bike they're so fun
Funny, I didn’t have any idea anybody was doing all this when I did it to my 02 Wide Glide, brought that bike home brand spanking new (bought it on Sep 11, 2001 and it came in early January 2002) and took that bike home and put it in the garage for the winter, stripped it and made it my own. It has metamorphised several times since then but still runs and rides good for whatever I want to do with it. This was interesting listen. Thanks 🙏🏼
That is a crazy day to have been at a dealership buying a motorcycle 😳
brother speed has the sickest FXRs in my opinion !!
T bars,2/3 faring and thunder header and a saddleman seat
Solid discussion. Thanks for imbedding the pics. Continuing to mod my Sport Chief to my likes…
Just found you. Subbed. Excited for th3 content. Thank you
I always rode a fxdx super glide sport , gunfighter seat style , 1/4 fairing , 6" risers ,with sportster bars , being a Ventura hells angels for 10 yrs rode 100 mph splitting lanes in traffic because I'm not stopping because it's either the law or the black and white behind you lol no offence moochlol😅
lol none taken homie
Ventura Rob in the house! 🤘
At what speed did you get that death wobble?
(I ride an 05 Fatboy)
Excellent content Mooch Man! I myself ride a 2007 Dyna Street Bob Monster Chopper Trike due to an accident at work in the Quarry where I was in charge of Explosives Operations for 29 years, left me with a crippled left leg in 2009, Would have loved to have had a LRST But to trike it would destroy that handling that people say about, I wish that the LRST was around when I bought my brand new Fatboy back in 1992, it would have been a way better option for me back then, but no at the age of 60 my Ol' Skool Chopper Trike is just right for me and my Ol' Lady Jules, Mike from Wales over here in the UK 👍🤘😎🏴
I remember when you started building up your switchback and reached out to me after I had set up mine with big bear choppers fairing. Now the low rider st is just a modern switchback
It used to be a lot harder to get the parts we wanted for that look. And I agree. The switchback was a shot in the right direction but missed. The ST was right on target
Thanks for the knowledge Gentlemen! I loved this episode.
Thanks for educating me! Always wondered were club style came from and why.
Bad ass video brother!
Mooch,just subscribed, didn't know you were back
Thank you sir. It’s been hit and miss. Been working on some other projects and been on other people’s channels so I haven’t been giving mine the attention it deserves
"Sport fairing with ape hangers... that just sets me off." Shot right at me 🤣🤣🤣 what if theyre mini-apes? 😂 i got the minis because it was different than the t-bars i saw everyone else doing, and i seem to be able to whip the bike around just fine. I am a newb though 🤷♂️🤣
If memory serves me right didnt the Frisco HA and maybe oakland use sporty tanks and modify the fuel tank on an angle with the spout at the very top to get more gas in the tank?
To me club style is just the result of making the bike function better. More lean angle. Better geometry.. ditch the choppered out rake. and some wind protection.
Cool show
Hey guys ! Love the video, learned a lot about clubstyle bikes thanks Mooch and Loren ! BTW has no one noticed the thumbnail says « CLUBSYLE » ?
lol completely missed that. It’s just me over here with minimal editing skills so sometimes these things get past me. Thank you for noticing
you interview many 81's , I would like to hear you with 22's and ultimately with Lil Dave
Love your work Mooch. Let’s work on that audio
Ya that’s what I’ve heard came from so cal club style just a certain club rocked that style at those times now it involved ‼️ dynas and fxrs weren’t really kool. then came along tv show series now everybody wanted one 😂3:55
Just found you and subscribed Mooch.
makes a lot If sense. I just put 16" apes and forward controls on my softail. Definitely comfortable but nut ready for anything
This was Great!! Hasn't motorcycle culture always been a bit of a fashion show? The whole thing with motorcycles is how you outwardly express yourself as an individual even within a MC. I do get the frustration of the social media clout chasing that is winning in the algorithm over racking miles. Maybe motorcycles are just the late bloomers to the phony/poser influencer plague that has been thriving on the rest of Social media.
Speaking on reliability is the reason I chose my 20 Lrs over the 16/17 Dyna. I wanted the Dyna bad!!! But couldn’t justify the reliability problems of it over the m8. At the end of the day I want to ride to my destination and know that I’m gonna make it there.
Wtf? The dyna platform is light years more reliable than the Milwaukee 8 🤣🤣🤣
@@OnePercenterBBNCBC not from the research I have done. You might want to go do some research yourself. 110se eats lifters every 10k and is known to spin crank bearings at 50k. The cost to fix this compared to what it cost to build a m8 is a whole different topic. Not to mention the “dyna wobble”. The softail out performs the dyna in handling as well.
@@Saturdays_We_Volunteer your “research”? Ok bud. Come back to me when you have 20 years as a certified master HD technician under your belt. The twin cam motor as a whole, is far more reliable than the Milwaukee 8 has been since it was released. 🥱
@@OnePercenterBBNCBC if you are a “certified technician” then you yourself would know the softail is the better performing platform. All of the “certified technicians” I know tell me m8 over twin cam. Ok I might have to replace a compensator. Whoopie!?!? A cam swap in a m8 produces way better numbers than a twin cam has to offer also.
I had a 17 M8. Into my 2nd year with lots of tome in the shop. I couldnt wait to get rid if it. My Dyna Superglide was much better reliably LOL
Big Loren🍻
to me the fxr hardtail with Tbars and mids is the ultimate club bike, fast, dependable n badass..Dyna's are nice but not a fan of fuel injected i had a lot of issues with my dyna, the evo fxr is a simpler design easier to wrench on if needed no bullshit censors
I have a 250 and a 1200 but the 250 has a 34inch seat hight and i love it. Kinda hate my Harley cuz its much lower with forward controls but the 250 has no power
I love the bike styles! Club, vicla, cholo, super redneck, classic stock, Bosozoku!!, naked, street fighter, stunt and so many more. Also who made their own parts? It was a pain but once you get it, no more overpriced goods
How do you go about shortening your thunderhead? I just chopped my fender making a stunt bagger and I’d like to shorten my thunderhead about 6 inches.
See, it is possible to get along, wether your past or present
Crazy how much all club members have in common when you take the patch away
@@MondaysWithMooch absolutely, I recently retired from one of the big 4 as they say
100%! If we all united against what we originally stood for, we would be unstoppable
It's rad to see you getting people .who never should have been enemy's together . possibly to become a brother ,that's a beautifull thing .
No it's not , that other shouldn't even be talking to mooch at all , probably going to get dp later by his homies when they see that
I agree with you about the Road Glide Special. I rode across country twice and it’s a dependable, comfortable and joy to ride, all day.
I also have two Dyna Wide Glides 👍🏻
Great video content guys !
Club style Southwest do solid events
Id like to see a dyna done up club style but dripping in chrome with a flashy paintjob. But I'm a Canadian weirdo so my opinion may not echo.
I feel like that’s how a lot of Cali guys do it, check out the candy paints they put on them and stuff!
I'm planning on getting either an FXR, DYNA, or a soft tail Low Rider S. I will definitely go club style. I like the look of the +1.5, 2" forks. But, hear people say they ride terrible like that. Is this true? I just can't see so many people in the clubs, who are riding hard using something that made their bikes run like crap?
As long as you lift the rear as well it’ll ride great and improve your cornering angle
@@MondaysWithMooch thank you so much, Homie!! I have a Road King now that I'm going the Vicla route with. Love the channel!!
Folks say my 12" T bars make it look like a "Circus bike", but I say it's one hell of a clown show out there so fits right in!
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How popular are the Indians with clubs e.g. the Chiefs, Scouts, and Challenger?
Been seeing more of them, but still nothing compared to the amount of road glides in the club world these days
Awesome video very informative and educational videos on motorcycles. God bless you Mooch, Buddha bless your family.❤❤❤😊😊😊
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Performance Built > Clubstyle
I see too many posers riding these "clubstyle" bikes with tons of money on it but can't even drag a peg around a corner. Go look at someone's bike and if they don't have scrape marks on the bottom of their lifted bikes pegs then they are just posers. Go look at Kruesi Orginals bikes.
U to are enemies in another lifetime , can we c u arm wrestle at least ? 😅
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Hey mooch
Dyna and FXR guy here but would love a RG but Harley went all LGBTQ crap and it looks like Indian will be getting my money
"club style" is a copout for dudes who can't admit they got into riding because of Sons of Anarchy.
Did the show invent it? No. Absolutely not, but the show brought it to light and made it popular.
Definitely played a huge role in it’s popularity
100% true a hand full of clubs had it, no civilian bikes before, now ever girl and sheep rider out there has that look
West coast el Diablo 2 softail chopper is where it's at . # jesse james # 1
Death Squad bars
I thought it was parade style,gay pride parade style. I like my ole pan, it's like my women. Naked fast andfun
You’re so cool 🤣
I got a Syndicate Ventura Style bracket on my bike. I’m in a BIG4 East Coast club and a bunch of brothers CRY that my headlight is too high. It hits them in the eyes when they look at their mirrors 😭😭😭😭😭 I’m like grow up I don’t even have mirrors Lol
Trackordie
Just my opinion but when all the FXR’s are parked at a show or at the bar they all look the same. Same bars same fairing same pipes and seat. The only real way to stand out anymore is you gotta CHOP your FXR or dyna.
As a sport bike guy, its hilarious to me to listen to these two talk about "fast harleys" and "taking corners at 100 mph" LOL. I mean if you think a 70 hp 600 pound bike is fast......ok
Tf is wrong with short shots lol
Club style..means ride an overpriced honda golding copy that looks just like all the other guys bikes so no one can tell them apart
No lie I like the new goldwings 😆
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Set up to pound ground. Form, function, reliability. Thats what all bikes should be.
Covington's did alot in the beginning of these bikes not being stock.