Hello Dr. Dave! I am also a mechanical engineer and pool player 😁. I just wanted to thank you for the clarity and care you put into your videos. This one in particular because it will allow me to better explain this technical concept to my teammates!
I always appreciate your work Dr Dave. Sometimes when I have an important tournament or money game ahead of me, I listen to a lot of your playlists. It keeps a lot of key principles fresh in my mind.
I've actually had it for a while now. I just don't like using it, but I will use it more in the future when I might be helpful. I think it was helpful in this video.
It is so unfair when you have the best videos money can buy and yet its so under appreciated never stop doing what you doing dr dave you are foundation and should be in the hall of fame
Thank you sir! Been waiting for this first person POV clips. For my slow brain, the best way to understand the things I have been reading is to try and look at the first person pov perspective like this
You’re welcome. It is not fun wearing the camera on my head (it hurts after a while), and it more than doubles my editing work, but I’ll try to do it more when I think it might be helpful.
It honestly isn't very fun to do. It is difficult to get the angle just right, the head strap hurts after a while, and the amount of editing work is more than double! But I will use the GoPro when I think it is necessary or helpful.
Thanks. You don't need to think much about throw. You just need to visualize which way your want the 1st ball to rub on the 2nd to throw it in the desired direction. For more help, see the videos and info here: billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/throw/
Good. That means the video has lots of good content. There is nothing wrong with rewinding or watching it multiple times. Even better, practice each shot one at a time.
Very good video Dave. I had right answer xD But it seems one can get only about 1/4 about the throw what you can get by cut induced throw. Liked go pro in this kind video!
@@DrDaveBilliards One question. I never tested it but can one make more CIT with cut + spin or is it best just slow stun? Like when you try maximize throw in frozen combo?
I don’t remember which video we were discussing dominant eye based on table lighting but I messed around with it. No matter what the lighting was on the 9 foot table with shark grey felt, I always favored my right eye. However on a 7 ft table with black felt I favored my left eye. I’m not positive but I think that all conditions affect the dominant eye. This would be a great video if you’re looking for something to do. If you do experiment with it please put it in a video if you could
Good point. I should have mentioned that the balls set I was using represents typical conditions. Waxed balls will throw much less, and really dirty balls could throw more (especially with a chalk mark at the contact point).
I suppose, then, a three ball frozen combination would throw left again with a right english hit, but half again as much? Because one more "gear" will be added to the system.
A lot less than half. I actually filmed this but I cut it in the final edit since the video was getting long and a 3-ball frozen combo would be so rare. The 3rd ball goes dead straight. Try it.
The 1 is easy to pocket reliably, but with the 9-on-the-spot cut break, too many balls get in the way of the wing ball going. For more info, see the videos and info here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/9-ball
@DrDaveBilliards But I mean in theory, if you clear the 2 balls that tend to interfere with the wing ball through speed and timing. With a natural hit the wing ball goes high, but based on what you showed in this video, wouldn't it be possible to spin throw the wing ball down?
@@2colossery Spin does not transfer through multiple balls very much. Pretty much all the spin is gone before reaching the 3rd ball. The amount of cut on the 1 determines the wing-ball angle.
The science says maximum throw is about 6 degrees, so the maximum theoretical effective cut is about 95 degrees (assuming an actual cut of about 89 degrees). For more info and demonstrations, see: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cut/impossible/ billiards.colostate.edu/faq/throw/maximum/ And with a jump, any effective cut angle is possible. See: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/jump/over-cut/
Good info. How about you, Tor Lowry, Sharivari, The Drill instructor Dominic Esposito and Lil Chris have a tournament against each other or do doubles matches? Lol.
I actually filmed some of this, but it didn't make the final cut since the results were not very interesting or useful. It is better to just use the right amount of cut on the first ball. If a cut angle is not available (like in the final example in the video), spin can be used, but it is not as effective.
@@DrDaveBilliards but the people want to know and that's your job DrDave. Your job is to let the people know. thank you. insert humor somewhere in there.
*Contents:*
0:00 - Intro
1:47 - Single Ball CIT
3:03 - Single Ball SIT
4:02 - Frozen Combo CIT
4:50 - Frozen Combo SIT/CIT
6:31 - Frozen Combo Cut CIT
7:04 - Spin Transfer Throw Example
8:03 - Wrap Up
*Supporting Resources:*
- AZB discussion: forums.azbilliards.com/thread...
- throw tutorial: billiards.colostate.edu/tutor...
- answers to common questions about throw: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/t...
- maximum throw resource page: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/t...
- throw speed effects: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/t...
- gearing outside spin: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/s...
- spin transfer resource page: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/t...
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Hello Dr. Dave! I am also a mechanical engineer and pool player 😁. I just wanted to thank you for the clarity and care you put into your videos. This one in particular because it will allow me to better explain this technical concept to my teammates!
I'm glad you like my stuff, and I hope it helps you help your team as much as possible.
I always appreciate your work Dr Dave. Sometimes when I have an important tournament or money game ahead of me, I listen to a lot of your playlists. It keeps a lot of key principles fresh in my mind.
I’m glad to hear it.
Hooray! Dr.Dave finally got a go pro!
I've actually had it for a while now. I just don't like using it, but I will use it more in the future when I might be helpful. I think it was helpful in this video.
@@DrDaveBilliards you should film some of your break and runs with the go pro. I think it'd be super helpful
@@zanethind I’ll try to do this when I can find the time.
@@DrDaveBilliards yep
I can't believe how in depth this video is.
I hope you think that is good. If so, thanks.
It is so unfair when you have the best videos money can buy and yet its so under appreciated never stop doing what you doing dr dave you are foundation and should be in the hall of fame
Thank you for your kind words.
Thank you sir! Been waiting for this first person POV clips. For my slow brain, the best way to understand the things I have been reading is to try and look at the first person pov perspective like this
You’re welcome. It is not fun wearing the camera on my head (it hurts after a while), and it more than doubles my editing work, but I’ll try to do it more when I think it might be helpful.
Most people on AZB do not get Dr. Dave info is great. Now all you need is time PRACTICING.🤯
Yep. Info isn’t worth much without practice.
Please make more video's with pov camera. Thanks
It honestly isn't very fun to do. It is difficult to get the angle just right, the head strap hurts after a while, and the amount of editing work is more than double! But I will use the GoPro when I think it is necessary or helpful.
Great video and lesson. The goal will to be able to think of this info at game speed. 😁
Thanks. You don't need to think much about throw. You just need to visualize which way your want the 1st ball to rub on the 2nd to throw it in the desired direction. For more help, see the videos and info here:
billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/throw/
This was alot i may need to watch atleast 4 solid times
Good. That means the video has lots of good content. There is nothing wrong with rewinding or watching it multiple times. Even better, practice each shot one at a time.
@@DrDaveBilliards dr Dave you are simple the best no matter which new channel pops up! You are pool foundation
Excellent video thanks Dr. Dave!
Thank you, and you're welcome!
Very good video Dave. I had right answer xD
But it seems one can get only about 1/4 about the throw what you can get by cut induced throw. Liked go pro in this kind video!
Good job! Yep. Cutting the ball is much more effective. The GoPro is kind of a pain, but I agree it is useful in a video like this.
@@DrDaveBilliards One question. I never tested it but can one make more CIT with cut + spin or is it best just slow stun? Like when you try maximize throw in frozen combo?
@@PoolManis Slow stun 1/2-ball hit (for the 1st OB into the 2nd) with no sidespin is most effective.
@@PoolManis Although, if that much cut is not available, you can use sidespin to increase the CIT effect some.
Thank you for these explanations.
You’re welcome. I aim to swerve (and throw). :)
I don’t remember which video we were discussing dominant eye based on table lighting but I messed around with it. No matter what the lighting was on the 9 foot table with shark grey felt, I always favored my right eye. However on a 7 ft table with black felt I favored my left eye. I’m not positive but I think that all conditions affect the dominant eye. This would be a great video if you’re looking for something to do. If you do experiment with it please put it in a video if you could
I have not experienced this effect before, nor have I seen it with any students; but if I do, I will do a video.
It's good info, might include that how clean and worn the balls are also add to this. A dirty or worn ball has more friction at contact.
Good point. I should have mentioned that the balls set I was using represents typical conditions. Waxed balls will throw much less, and really dirty balls could throw more (especially with a chalk mark at the contact point).
I suppose, then, a three ball frozen combination would throw left again with a right english hit, but half again as much? Because one more "gear" will be added to the system.
A lot less than half. I actually filmed this but I cut it in the final edit since the video was getting long and a 3-ball frozen combo would be so rare. The 3rd ball goes dead straight. Try it.
So in theory, you can use maximum spin induced throw to make both the wing ball and the 1 in a 9 ball break with the 9 on the spot?
The 1 is easy to pocket reliably, but with the 9-on-the-spot cut break, too many balls get in the way of the wing ball going. For more info, see the videos and info here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/9-ball
@DrDaveBilliards But I mean in theory, if you clear the 2 balls that tend to interfere with the wing ball through speed and timing. With a natural hit the wing ball goes high, but based on what you showed in this video, wouldn't it be possible to spin throw the wing ball down?
@@2colossery Spin does not transfer through multiple balls very much. Pretty much all the spin is gone before reaching the 3rd ball. The amount of cut on the 1 determines the wing-ball angle.
Hi Dr. Dave I wonder what is the maximum angle that you can directly cut a ball. Have you done that kind of experiment and what does the science say?
The science says maximum throw is about 6 degrees, so the maximum theoretical effective cut is about 95 degrees (assuming an actual cut of about 89 degrees). For more info and demonstrations, see:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cut/impossible/
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/throw/maximum/
And with a jump, any effective cut angle is possible. See:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/jump/over-cut/
@@DrDaveBilliards Thank you for the information!
@@FishbrainMnt You're welcome. I aim to swerve. :)
Good info. How about you, Tor Lowry, Sharivari, The Drill instructor Dominic Esposito and Lil Chris have a tournament against each other or do doubles matches? Lol.
I would honestly rather watch top pro players compete.
@@DrDaveBilliards Haha. I follow Niels Fejien.
@@brandongrablachoff261 Me too.
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part 2: Spin Transfer Throw of Frozen Balls with different cue ball cut angles and spins on the first ball.
I actually filmed some of this, but it didn't make the final cut since the results were not very interesting or useful. It is better to just use the right amount of cut on the first ball. If a cut angle is not available (like in the final example in the video), spin can be used, but it is not as effective.
@@DrDaveBilliards but the people want to know and that's your job DrDave. Your job is to let the people know. thank you. insert humor somewhere in there.
Thanks for the input.
@@DrDaveBilliards you missed the humor. insert it please
@@StunDan Good point. I was a bit “serous” throughout the entire video.
1st ;P