A couple of notes I forget to put in the video: 11:40 is probably a Sunday Ashland Turn with all those RS-3s and a big train. 14:01 is Barnhart Street on the east side of Marion.
Times were, briefly, favorable for the EL when this was shot. Tho AC Tower had yet to get it's N&W applied "In the Red" paint job, the DERECO era was likely in play by the end of this footage. Thanks so much as usual for posting this!
Could be a number of things. Could be a bad joint, a bad sleeper, poor ballasting, etc. A pretty common sight in the 1970s, especially on northeastern roads like the EL and Penn Central.
@@suppylarue220 I'd agree 100%. The EL w/it's perpetual money losing commuter service in heavily taxed New Jersey and New York was on shaky financial footing well before Agnes sunk the Railroad in 1972. There's no way the Milwaukee would have been able to make a merger work even had they been interested, and allowed to even try! And the Hurricane taking a different path would only have postponed failure and probably bankruptcy afew more yrs. Either way it was over for my favorite Railroad.
@@Tom-xe9iq Tom, I really didn't give a fair answer in my last post. My honest take on the EL is simply the Railroad world evolved so much in the 1970's that even w/o the Hurricane, any merger w/the Erie Lackawanna would have had to be some kind of true Trans-con setup, (likely the Santa Fe), OR a huge restructuring of Eastern Railroads, coupled w/State willingness to shoulder the Commuter bueiness, that would have given the EL a fair chance to compete and survive. Neither scenario was yet Politically possible in that era.
A couple of notes I forget to put in the video:
11:40 is probably a Sunday Ashland Turn with all those RS-3s and a big train.
14:01 is Barnhart Street on the east side of Marion.
love those older engine (not old then) and the grafetti less cars. Great video.
E8s in freight service is interesting if not a little sad.
Times were, briefly, favorable for the EL when this was shot. Tho AC Tower had yet to get it's N&W applied "In the Red" paint job, the DERECO era was likely in play by the end of this footage. Thanks so much as usual for posting this!
Too bad EL wasn't successful in staying out of Conrail. Selling some of their right of way for Rt. 80 bit them in the butt, too.
Thank you for sharing.👍
I miss the old trains the smell of the exhaust from the engine and the box cars with NO graffiti on them
I'm with you on that. I hate the graffiti today.
AAhhh...The Rock & Rollin' 70's. 🤣👍
Plenty of rock 'n roll on the bad PC track!
The Rolling Stock is swaying so bad here 2:40 (dip in The Track )?
Could be a number of things. Could be a bad joint, a bad sleeper, poor ballasting, etc. A pretty common sight in the 1970s, especially on northeastern roads like the EL and Penn Central.
@@squirrelguy2195 Prob all of the above. The PC/EL westbound track at the station had an agonizing 5 mph slow order at one point!
@@b3j8 I think PC worse than EL.
Might have been interesting if the E-L and MILW had merged...!
no chance in all chances. two loosers make one
big looser.
@@suppylarue220 I'd agree 100%. The EL w/it's perpetual money losing commuter service in heavily taxed New Jersey and New York was on shaky financial footing well before Agnes sunk the Railroad in 1972. There's no way the Milwaukee would have been able to make a merger work even had they been interested, and allowed to even try! And the Hurricane taking a different path would only have postponed failure and probably bankruptcy afew more yrs. Either way it was over for my favorite Railroad.
a transcon money pit of epic proportions. NYC+PRR=PC. EL+MILW= ⚫🚋🚂
@@Tom-xe9iq Tom, I really didn't give a fair answer in my last post. My honest take on the EL is simply the Railroad world evolved so much in the 1970's that even w/o the Hurricane, any merger w/the Erie Lackawanna would have had to be some kind of true Trans-con setup, (likely the Santa Fe), OR a huge restructuring of Eastern Railroads, coupled w/State willingness to shoulder the Commuter bueiness, that would have given the EL a fair chance to compete and survive. Neither scenario was yet Politically possible in that era.