Macintosh Classic Restoration (and how I did it) (Part 1) - Savvy Sage
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- Опубліковано 20 чер 2024
- 2023 UPDATE: I have released a follow-up! Check it out: • Macintosh Classic Rest...
In this video, I'll be talking about the story behind my system and how I restored it to (mostly) working order.
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Timecodes:
0:00 Introduction
0:29 Brief History
1:58 What We're Dealing With
2:59 The Disassembly
9:21 The Parts Swap
10:43 Replacing the Capacitors
14:06 Reinstalling the Software
18:33 Post-Restoration Woes
20:56 Conclusion
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*2023 UPDATE:* I have released a follow-up! Check it out: ua-cam.com/video/6_YCyJU64uc/v-deo.html
Great presentation. Persistence eventually payed off too. I have been slowly learning the skills needed to refurbish these old machines. I’m more into the software side of things and I’m enjoying the journey.
Would've loved to have a Classic Macintosh in my collection. Sadly the only time I'd ever see it was in my Computer Science class. Alongside an Apple 2 and other classic Machintoshes as well. (I think I still have pictures of them somewhere.)
9:37 That freaking burn in... I always heard of as a kid in the 90's, but never seen to this degree... haha sheeesh.
I guess case and point for the term "screensaver".
When I got my Classic II, I had the same screen-jiggle phenomenon. I had it recapped, but I don't recall if that solved the problem on mine or not... I need to pull it out this weekend and check LOL. Of course I realize that you got yours recapped as well.... hmm... Really enjoying your videos. Very glad I stumbled across your channel today.
Wow. The algorithm actually sent this my way.
I glad I finally watched a Sage video.
That explains why my Mac Classic Restoration video got more views than the Computer Showcase itself... 🤔
My screen turns on but it's blank.
Another, easier way, to install system 6 is to boot from the bios with cmd+opt+x+o and copy that system folder from the virtual drive onto the hard drive.
Even then, the one in ROM is an older version of System 6 (6.0.3), so if you want the best compatibility, installing the latest System 6 makes more sense
I bought a Mac Classic when I started grad school in 1991. I loved it, and continued using it for years after. I later gave it to my sister who used it for a few years, before I she ditched it for something newer. My next computer was an early Powerbook (used) that I still own. I wonder if it still works…?
That store ripped you off :x 3 weeks for a job that takes max 40 mins for someone who is accustomed to surface mount. I get that it's a business and they're busy but this is such a small job... Furthermore they gave you cheap electrolytics that will leak again in another 10 or so years. when they should have given you tantalum replacements.
Hopefully in the future you will try experimenting some more with soldering. Start with small inexpensive projects and work your way up! :)
I'm no expert, but being able to solder has saved me multiple times, and really all you need is good equipment and patience... I recapped my PowerMacintosh 6100 all on my own and it works perfectly. My soldering technique may not be up to the standard of most ppl, but the fact is the new tantalum caps are on there firmly and making good contact.
Really cool vid as well... Makes me wish I had kept my Classic II that I had back in 2016 :)
Edit : seems like that "repair" they did was nothing more than ultrasonic cleaning of the motherboard. I will bet money those are the original caps. That shop 100% scammed you! :(
I should probably point out that at the time I took the computer in for repair (2021), I had never heard of and didn't bother to ask about tantalum capacitors.
As for the repair itself: The capacitors were replaced and it was ultrasonic cleaned, but it probably wasn't enough. (Also, if it were the original caps, I would notice right away.)
@@SavvySage I'm still skeptical... My Mac Classic II had the sound issue until I soaked & scrubbed it in dish soap water for an hour and let it bake in the sun for the remainder of the day. after that the sound came back and I was good to go for a few weeks.
If you want to try tantalum recap I would be willing to do so solely for the price of shipping the board to and from. Totally understand if that's weird coming from some stranger on UA-cam, but I regret not having the ability to fix my Classic II when I had it... I want to see more of these things kicking around and not dead / destroyed.
I appreciate the offer, but there are more problems with this board than just the capacitors, which may be outside of your zone.
Also, I probably should've worded my above message better (I edited it to reflect that): What I meant to say was I would've noticed right away that the capacitors were the same just by looking at the top of them, at least in my case. (Watch the side-by-side comparison between the "before" and "after" photos of the board closely and you'll see what I mean.)
My screen turns on but it's blank.
The jiggly screen is a low voltage condition on the analog board, there is a trim you can adjust to fix it. Colin @ This does not compute recently did a video on it.
I am fully well aware of that-I've since had the analog board repaired, so the issue no longer persists. (This'll be talked about in more detail in a follow-up episode I'm working on; stay tuned!)
I have only collected old pc's . But I am thinking of getting a Quarda/Centris AV or a Power Macintosh 9500 maybe even a color classic. But I have no mac's right now.
I'd start with any of the post-1997 Macs (such as the iMac), because the older ones use proprietary Apple ports that require adapters (or the original accessories) to use, while the newer ones use the industry standard USB.
@@SavvySage My dad has an iMac G4 which he is turning into a raspberry pi cuz the mac inside doesn't work correctly.
About 18 months ago I obtained a PowerBook G4. It runs Mac OS X and OS 9 natively, and seamlessly emulates a 68LC040 processor. So it'll run OS X Games compiled for PowerPC, OS 9 software for PPC, and most classic Mac OS software for 68k. Some very early games might not run or will run far too quickly, but I'm really happy at the sheer breadth of software I can run on it.
Plus it has a DVD drive and USB; there's absolutely no problem getting software and other files onto it.
The analog board is also known as to having bad capacitors that leak on the bottom
So far I haven't had a major issue with the analog board aside from the flickering whenever there's hard drive activity.
how do i get mac software on my mac plus?
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Yup. On next May, you could do a AMayga! Do that!
I don't currently own any Amiga computers at the moment, but maybe I'll think about doing something Amiga-related one day...
@@SavvySage what about the mini?
My screen turns on but it's blank.
Macintosh Classic or Classic II ? which would you prefer ?
Kind of a hard decision, but in terms of technical specs, the Classic II, even though I haven't tried one in-person yet.
@@SavvySage I’m probably gonna pick up a Macintosh Plus 1MB from someone today for 75$ good deal ?
2:17 look like they forgot to put the flying toaster
or just any screen saver in general. : )
Wait... If you weren't able to surface mount solder.... Hey, where'd that "beyond repair" logic board go? 😝
Also the emulation of M68k Macs isn't perfect, yet.
I put it in the yellowed unit and returned it since I didn't have room for another system.
@@SavvySage As I kinda suspected. I was teasing more than anything, but as an Electronics Repair Technician from what I could see of the PCB in the video it was potentially salvageable with a new battery holder and a lot of bodge wires. Probably really only worth the effort if done to prevent the unit from being recycled. Which it seems to be doing fine living as a theatre prop. Though from a Mac preservation standpoint, someone should clean up that rust to stop it from spreading. It's making any future repair harder and harder as time passes. Even if it's not planned. But I understand it probably won't happen, in time all things must go.
Why TF does everybody doing Apple restoration just pry the s*** out of the anode wire on the CRT?! Does not even ONE person realize that you’re supposed to squeeze the spring clip together and it will be completely free with no prying or force?! FFS. Oh, and look up the definition of “decimate”.
apple is super expensive for lot of nothing