Great video but PLEASE discharge the Anode cap with a flathead screwdriver connected to ground (or the metallic shield, preferably both). The shocks these CRT's can give are nasty, it's definitely worth the hassle 😃
With a single touch, it will give you an instant punk hairdo! What a time saver! Don't pay any attention to the smoke and sizzling skin, it's a minor side effect, nothing to worry about. (
Great job! We had one of these in my school back in the days as well. It was one of the first computers in the school. This one and an some newer Mac model were donated by a parent that worked as a doctor. He had the money our school didn't hold at this time. They didn't see much real use, we mostly used them for some basic games but it was a good introduction to computers for most of us.
Awesome! I would recommend getting some of that conformal coating spray and coating the boards and whatnot to prevent corrosion in the future...it will live inside now but still would be a good idea for longevity! Great going on the restoration! Keep em coming!!!!
I loved this video. The Mac Classic (4/40) was my first computer when I was in high school. Major geek points for the raSCSI hack. I will say, though, that OS 6.0.8 worked much better than 7 on the Classic.
hey if i end up getting a Mac classic and need it restored can i send it down your way? Sorry to hear about the floods. I was in the same boat in 2019 up in NQLD.. Thank god for insurance. 🙂
Hey, thanks for the great vid, going to work on a Mac Classic very soon, I'm just building the parts list. Where do you get the caps from? do you get them in a set or just buy individually for the project? Thanks heaps
There are some eBay sellers that sell premade kits. However it’s usually cheaper to manually check all your capacitors and order them individually from a site like digikey. I do have plans to offer some capacitor kits on JuicyCrumb.com in the future though :)
With the RaSCSI, do you run into any problems when shutting down the machine from the OS where the image becomes corrupted? I usually have to power down the PI first through the web interface so it can dump the cache or else I risk corrupting the disk image for the HDD.
@@therealloganyt237 prevents oxidation in soldering surfaces, allowing better contact, wicking, and conduction through a solder joint. it also lowers the temperature required for the tin to melt and stay liquid, making it much easier to work with.
Need a Macintosh Lisa? It powers on, but needs either a hard drive, or just a boot loader/OS. I used it way back in the 90's, maintained and ran it at least once a year until 2014 when i moved the drive platen during cleaning (axis protrudes the case), and it never booted up again since, but it sure wants to.
@@Pendleton115 I don't do twitter, but email is perfect, anywhere official I can find a published email address of yours, so you don't have to put it in these comments?
Hey Pendleton 115, was wondering in your video for the first version of the Bluetooth iPod what did you use to mount the Bluetooth board to the metal plate. I can see two small with things underneath but I have no idea what they are.
Great video and restoration work. Another vintage Mac restored and saved! My only suggestion would be to normalize the audio throughout your video. I had to turn up the sound level to hear your narration, but then I was blasted by the music, which was at least 3x the volume of your voice.
Is a Mac Classic still useful in 2024? Can it access high speed internet, print to modern laser printer or color photo printers, can it handle USB devices? A serious question.
it's useful if you don't give it the wrong job. all of what you named is the wrong job for this particular machine. personally, I write fiction. for that, an ancient version of word and a machine like this suffice, along with whatever low speed ethernet is available on it just to connect to the outside world at all, will suffice. I'm not expecting, nor demanding, it to do modern printers and usb devices. that's not the correct job for it.
@@destrierofdark_ If you are a writer, why use something that merely 'suffices' ? A cheap Windows PC with 24-inch 1080p color monitor is light years beyond the Mac Classic. Its like comparing a BMW to a bicycle. A rusty bicycle. 😄
@@DerekDavis213 it's merely an example of the kind of job that would fit that machine. it's also got one big disadvantage; a near total lack of distractions.
@@destrierofdark_ Can an old Mac do grammar checking and spell checking and AI analysis of your writing like a modern PC can do? There are many new words that have entered the language in the last 30 years, none of which the old Mac will be aware of. Right?
@@DerekDavis213 with an updated dictionary, you've got an updated set of words in the spellchecker that already exists, even in old versions of word. I also do not need ai, nor do I want any of its output. a complete lack thereof is a big plus.
I’ve actually heard the opposite, I’ve heard the twist and pull method was the best way to removed them. Mat KC removed the caps on his wii using both ways, when he desoldered one it ripped the pad off the board, while when he twisted and pulled they were fine.
UV lights are good and all but dont you have plenty of sunlight in Australia? I know in winter months it can get a bit dull if that was the case. Great video though.
Yeah when this was filmed it was late winter/early spring in one of the wettest seasons of Australia’s history hahaha . Personally I found the LED’s more consistent and able to get better coverage of the entire part, so I’d recommend them either way
@@Pendleton115 yeah, especially with such an oblique angle the sun is during an Australian winter, early spring it can yield some less than optimal results for it, as well as normal boring tasks like hanging clothes to dry on the line lol.
What would be real dope, is if some took an old Macintosh like this and put the guts of an iPad Pro inside it, updated the screen, and maybe made an app you could click on and run classic macOS for the nostalgia.
@@Pendleton115 this is serious. you have the correct tools to discharge the crt and possibly save your life (a wire with alligator clips on each end and a decently long screwdriver) and to remove the caps without any risk to the board (hot tweezers), and yet you don't at all use them. let's not mention standing the crt by its very fragile neck.
would you believe that back then they were more powerful by a mile than any regular pc? after all, a 68000 was used in many, *many* high end workstations, such as early silicon graphics stuff (think original jurassic park cgi dino), amigas (which were the be all end all of music involving a computer back in the day, as well as a slew of graphics work), and even the next computers, which are responsible for the existence of the world wide web, which is what you're using to read this comment. and yes; that's exactly the processors the macs had back in the day, until they changed to powerpc; not only were they faster still, they were also risc, and so ran circles around anything intel/amd were putting out on the x86 architecture not only in performance but also in efficiency. the only reason apple ever switched to intel was because ibm refused to make a low power g5 processor, and then switched to their own arm silicon away from intel only because intel seemed to not even be able to make low power chips anymore. but you might be asking: why didn't that happen earlier? that's because they had a contract with intel until 2020. guess when apple silicon macs started appearing? 2020. guess what apple silicon macs do today, better than anything intel ever did? efficiency and instructions per clock, that is, per-core, per-clock performance. so no; macs haven't "always been crap;" for much of their history, they were leaps and bounds ahead of all pcs.
it doesn't need to run windows 11 to be a treasure. nor is this video only here to be disliked. nor is this a piece of junk, nor was it ever. not to mention that this computer never ran windows 11 to begin with. then again, with it being released in 1987 and windows 11 in 2021, why would it? moreover, why have you left not one, but *two* comments to this effect?
Great video but PLEASE discharge the Anode cap with a flathead screwdriver connected to ground (or the metallic shield, preferably both). The shocks these CRT's can give are nasty, it's definitely worth the hassle 😃
With a single touch, it will give you an instant punk hairdo! What a time saver! Don't pay any attention to the smoke and sizzling skin, it's a minor side effect, nothing to worry about. (
A friend lost a finger nerve opening a crt monitor. He now has a dangling finger and it is really sad.
@@xavtek #sadfinger
And they linger for a good bit afterwards. Really nasty!
Yes yes yes… this is what I wanted to say too. We used to have a special cable with a pokey part to get under the suction cup.
Now that is a labor of love. Beautiful work. The RaSCSI is a cool piece of kit!
It's really nice seeing someone who has similar interests to me. Love your channel now that I found it!
Awesome. You put in so much work. I had one of these back in the 90s. A classic II. Great machine for its time.
I can't believe how incredibly cool this is, thanks for the great video.
Great job! We had one of these in my school back in the days as well. It was one of the first computers in the school. This one and an some newer Mac model were donated by a parent that worked as a doctor. He had the money our school didn't hold at this time. They didn't see much real use, we mostly used them for some basic games but it was a good introduction to computers for most of us.
Thank you for this instructive and illustrative film. Great job! Please continue ✌🏻!
Awesome! I would recommend getting some of that conformal coating spray and coating the boards and whatnot to prevent corrosion in the future...it will live inside now but still would be a good idea for longevity!
Great going on the restoration!
Keep em coming!!!!
I actually did use some “PCB Spray” to add a new protective layer to the areas I worked on.
I must’ve forgotten to mention that in the video! 😅
Oh my great video ... amazily astounding.
I loved this video. The Mac Classic (4/40) was my first computer when I was in high school. Major geek points for the raSCSI hack. I will say, though, that OS 6.0.8 worked much better than 7 on the Classic.
OS 7 runs awful, but I really wanted to browse the web and this was only feasibly possible on OS 7 :)
Job well done! Hope things settle down for you.
That RP mod was super cool. Might do that myself with my Mac Classic II
I always thought it would be cool to put new up to date everything inside one of these fit a flat screen to it.
that is the least cool thing you can do with it.
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The patience and craftsmanship in this video 👌🏽
Are you able to advise what size the caps were you replaced please
Hi - I really enjoyed this and I hope you do many more retro restoration videos just like it!! Thanks
Love the restoration. I am still appalled that Apple tried to position what is effectively a MacPlus as a replacement for the SE30.
@@owenrichards1418 it’s soooo slooowew
Is it possible to fit a modern computer in that thing
you can, but for many good reasons, you don't want to, and shouldn't.
Mine works Great except for it keeps typing 'P' on the Desktop hard drive title It does this without the keyboard plugged in. I can't figure it out.
Amazing job!
hey if i end up getting a Mac classic and need it restored can i send it down your way? Sorry to hear about the floods. I was in the same boat in 2019 up in NQLD.. Thank god for insurance. 🙂
You got lucky. Mine had the battery explode, and it destroyed the irreplaceable RTC chip.
Really great restoration! I sold an Apple Plus on eBay for £38 recently.. now I know what they use them for :D
apple what plus?
Is no one gonna mention the grapes?
Hey, thanks for the great vid, going to work on a Mac Classic very soon, I'm just building the parts list. Where do you get the caps from? do you get them in a set or just buy individually for the project? Thanks heaps
There are some eBay sellers that sell premade kits.
However it’s usually cheaper to manually check all your capacitors and order them individually from a site like digikey.
I do have plans to offer some capacitor kits on JuicyCrumb.com in the future though :)
@@Pendleton115 awesome thanks a lot, appreciate the advice
With the RaSCSI, do you run into any problems when shutting down the machine from the OS where the image becomes corrupted? I usually have to power down the PI first through the web interface so it can dump the cache or else I risk corrupting the disk image for the HDD.
6:15 I'm terrified, use flux and solder with solder braid :D where is Louis Rossmann? :D
What does flux do?
@@therealloganyt237 prevents oxidation in soldering surfaces, allowing better contact, wicking, and conduction through a solder joint. it also lowers the temperature required for the tin to melt and stay liquid, making it much easier to work with.
Did you give the rest of the logic board a soak and scrub in IPA? I see a bunch more dried cap juice on the IC legs.
Gave it a bath in baking soda and vinegar to clean the corrosion but didn’t document it for the video
You have those soldering tweezers. You could have easily used those to remove the SMD caps instead of ripping them off.
He doesn't own them and landed them
Good job
Need a Macintosh Lisa? It powers on, but needs either a hard drive, or just a boot loader/OS. I used it way back in the 90's, maintained and ran it at least once a year until 2014 when i moved the drive platen during cleaning (axis protrudes the case), and it never booted up again since, but it sure wants to.
Hey mate I am definitely interested in this and it would make a fantastic video.
Do you mind dropping me a line on Twitter or via eMail? Cheers!
@@Pendleton115 I don't do twitter, but email is perfect, anywhere official I can find a published email address of yours, so you don't have to put it in these comments?
@@Bob-of-Zoid sure, you can contact me at wheatleythecore801@gmail.com !
I’ll take it too!
Fantastico 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
You use your fancy soldering iron to recap the logic board, but you're cheap iron to solder the SMDs on SCSI board. 😂
Keen eye! As much as I wish I owned a JBC of my own, I don’t think my workplace would approve if I stole theirs 🤣
This is awesome great work ✌️❤️
Hey Pendleton 115, was wondering in your video for the first version of the Bluetooth iPod what did you use to mount the Bluetooth board to the metal plate. I can see two small with things underneath but I have no idea what they are.
You can use double sided foam tape that's been cut to size.
@@Pendleton115 alright thank you btw how thick should it be.
20:51 fish
Great video and restoration work. Another vintage Mac restored and saved! My only suggestion would be to normalize the audio throughout your video. I had to turn up the sound level to hear your narration, but then I was blasted by the music, which was at least 3x the volume of your voice.
not saved, will fail again
@@olDirdey with non-electrolyte caps, that "again" is not very soon at all.
@@destrierofdark_ then take a look at how it was cleaned
@@olDirdey a whole slew of ipa and wash not covered in the video, but mentioned around the comments.
@@destrierofdark_ i have only seen the ipa, and that would not be enough to neutralize. then its probably fine
Nice work! But why use the LED's when you've got a Sun?
on one hand, it's a continuous dose. on the other, it is not dependent on a clear day close to the equator.
Do you answer your Twitter DMs?
Is a Mac Classic still useful in 2024?
Can it access high speed internet, print to modern laser printer or color photo printers, can it handle USB devices? A serious question.
it's useful if you don't give it the wrong job. all of what you named is the wrong job for this particular machine.
personally, I write fiction. for that, an ancient version of word and a machine like this suffice, along with whatever low speed ethernet is available on it just to connect to the outside world at all, will suffice. I'm not expecting, nor demanding, it to do modern printers and usb devices. that's not the correct job for it.
@@destrierofdark_ If you are a writer, why use something that merely 'suffices' ?
A cheap Windows PC with 24-inch 1080p color monitor is light years beyond the Mac Classic. Its like comparing a BMW to a bicycle. A rusty bicycle. 😄
@@DerekDavis213 it's merely an example of the kind of job that would fit that machine.
it's also got one big disadvantage; a near total lack of distractions.
@@destrierofdark_ Can an old Mac do grammar checking and spell checking and AI analysis of your writing like a modern PC can do? There are many new words that have entered the language in the last 30 years, none of which the old Mac will be aware of. Right?
@@DerekDavis213 with an updated dictionary, you've got an updated set of words in the spellchecker that already exists, even in old versions of word.
I also do not need ai, nor do I want any of its output. a complete lack thereof is a big plus.
Careful with the neck board - my Classic's CRT was killed due to the neck board getting knocked.
68 thousand, not 68 hundred
Lovely work! What game is at 21:31? Thank you
Prince of Persia!
@@Pendleton115 Thank you
montage music was crazy loud compared to the rest...
suggest not removing the cap like this; high risk to get pad lifted
I’ve actually heard the opposite, I’ve heard the twist and pull method was the best way to removed them. Mat KC removed the caps on his wii using both ways, when he desoldered one it ripped the pad off the board, while when he twisted and pulled they were fine.
UV lights are good and all but dont you have plenty of sunlight in Australia? I know in winter months it can get a bit dull if that was the case. Great video though.
Yeah when this was filmed it was late winter/early spring in one of the wettest seasons of Australia’s history hahaha .
Personally I found the LED’s more consistent and able to get better coverage of the entire part, so I’d recommend them either way
@@Pendleton115 yeah, especially with such an oblique angle the sun is during an Australian winter, early spring it can yield some less than optimal results for it, as well as normal boring tasks like hanging clothes to dry on the line lol.
Crazy how an 80s computer is about as powerful as a modern calculator lol
I mean, lotsa calculators did use the 68000, so...
We used the machines in my high school for the same reasons. Any chance they came from Texas? LOL
Sydney Australia. But close I guess 😂
"Isopropyl alcohol makes quick work of this"
**Proceeds to take a long time**
Quicker than doing it without!
What would be real dope, is if some took an old Macintosh like this and put the guts of an iPad Pro inside it, updated the screen, and maybe made an app you could click on and run classic macOS for the nostalgia.
no; that'd be just about the least cool thing you could possibly do with one of these.
Don't put CRT on the tube! I don't have experience with Macs but those glass tubes are fragile in general, so be careful handling them.
Great video, but ripping the caps off like that really hurts to watch….Desoldering them definitely avoids removing the pads incidentally.
you should put a colour crt in it
I’ve been attempting to source an Amber CRT for some time now. They are as rare as hens teeth!
no point. this mac can't do color.
It's funny, you sometimes have the same voice as Alec from Technology Connections
good
Not discharging the CRT. Attacking the caps with tin snips. Jesus Christ dude. Couldn't watch any further.
K lol
@@Pendleton115 this is serious. you have the correct tools to discharge the crt and possibly save your life (a wire with alligator clips on each end and a decently long screwdriver) and to remove the caps without any risk to the board (hot tweezers), and yet you don't at all use them.
let's not mention standing the crt by its very fragile neck.
OMG !!! ***NEVER*** rip caps off the mobo with snips or pliers !!!! Desolder them !!!!!
great video! horrible music choice
if it does not run windows 11 pro its STILL TRASH !
Okay…
no, it's not.
DISLIKE FROM SOYJAK
Why bother? Macs have always been crap.
Well the apple 2 was ok
would you believe that back then they were more powerful by a mile than any regular pc? after all, a 68000 was used in many, *many* high end workstations, such as early silicon graphics stuff (think original jurassic park cgi dino), amigas (which were the be all end all of music involving a computer back in the day, as well as a slew of graphics work), and even the next computers, which are responsible for the existence of the world wide web, which is what you're using to read this comment. and yes; that's exactly the processors the macs had back in the day, until they changed to powerpc; not only were they faster still, they were also risc, and so ran circles around anything intel/amd were putting out on the x86 architecture not only in performance but also in efficiency. the only reason apple ever switched to intel was because ibm refused to make a low power g5 processor, and then switched to their own arm silicon away from intel only because intel seemed to not even be able to make low power chips anymore. but you might be asking: why didn't that happen earlier? that's because they had a contract with intel until 2020. guess when apple silicon macs started appearing? 2020. guess what apple silicon macs do today, better than anything intel ever did? efficiency and instructions per clock, that is, per-core, per-clock performance.
so no; macs haven't "always been crap;" for much of their history, they were leaps and bounds ahead of all pcs.
@destrierofdark_ fanboy
@@simon_1987 hard to be a fanboy when that's literally how it was. try actually reading what I wrote.
Treasure..would be if it was running windows 11 !! now is a piece of junk and a video ONLY FOR DISLIKE !
it doesn't need to run windows 11 to be a treasure. nor is this video only here to be disliked. nor is this a piece of junk, nor was it ever.
not to mention that this computer never ran windows 11 to begin with. then again, with it being released in 1987 and windows 11 in 2021, why would it? moreover, why have you left not one, but *two* comments to this effect?