Predator Ghost Mini Bike Build! The Ultimate Pit Bike! *Race Engine*
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2022
- we recently acquired a 2022 Coleman minibike and decided to turn it into the ultimate pit bike! We didn’t waste any time before purchasing the predator ghost 212 race engine from harbor freight and installing it in the bike! enjoy the full unboxing, installation and start to finish build of the mini bike!
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If you don’t want to do the whole 10hr break in but you do want to do some sorta break in I would recommend running the engine easy for about 10 minutes or till it’s up to full temperature shut it off and let it cool down. Do that about 3 or 4 times that’s the best quickest way to do some sort of break in. I was told this by an engine builder awhile ago.
Or just let idle all day before the day you ride.
Best video I’ve seen ! Thank you brotha
Ya dude! Thank you 🤙. This was just a one off video I did outside of my normally drifting/building videos and its the best one I have 😂
Really good video here , I think I’m gunna try to do this also my self just as a hobby and I love mini bikes thanks again
You were turning the main jet screw, for high speed control adjustment. The idle screw is to the right, directly in line with the cable. It controls the slide
Was doing is 100% valid, you just misunderstood what was goin on.
There is no "main jet screw" either.
You can easily remove that top plate and that tank will mount directly to the top of the engine. Then lose the pulse pump and run a gravity line to the carb.
This motor doesn’t have tabs to mount a tank ontop like the 212
@@BryanSturman92 yes it does, its a 212 block, i have one
@@bowhunterdave the ghost engine does not have a mechanical governor. Pull the case apart. It has a coil with a 6k rev limiter. It’s not an exact 212 block
@@bowhunterdave even some of the case is different as far as bolt
Holes and tabs. I’ve had like 6 of these comments. Take your apart and repot back
You cannot mount a tank to it. The holes are different. Also someone mention the gravity line to carb. The pulse pump is the way to go. That is the way this engine was designed. It does have a crappy fly wheel. You may wanna put a bill flywheel in it. I put a torque converter on mine ghost. It def pulls off much faster. Top end speed losing a little but as far as hills go. Torque Converter is life. I'm 6foot 220 pounds I had the Coleman rt200 up over 50 mph.
Nice build! I put a Ghost in my BT200 along with a torque converter. No fuel pump, just mounted the tank on top of the engine. I can hit 50 with it, lotsa fun!!
I just put the ghost in my rt200. Working out some kinks but she rips! Got it up to 59 mph straight chained 6:1 ratio. 51mph and wheelies from a stop with the jugg on it.
Awesome man! That’s greatb
Hell yeah brother can’t wait for mine to be finished I just got a 224 predator just waiting on a clutch and some valve springs!🤘🏼
What have you done to it and did it ever blow??
Nice video! Thanks
Most informative video ever bravo 👏🏻
Thank you 🤘
lol that first part when ya started it was hilarious them things engage soon as it’s running with them clutches could be scary for the younger riders first experience 🤔🤗👍
Hahah yeah she took off on me! 😂
It happens... Especially a new clutch.. couple drips of wd-40 in the right spot stops the accidental take offs @@BryanSturman92
awesome vid im doing the same exact build i think i might use your fuel tank mount idea
Nice man!
27:50 lmao yeah the "idle" screw got ya.. man if anyone has seen American Graffiti this makes me think of the opening scene so much. Nice demo of the motor though been on the fence about getting one. I'll be re-watching that part a few times
Mounting bolts are M8 X 35mm long
i just built my first 212...ported head, isky cam..they are fun as hell. The 6k limiter in that coil is trash...but a easy fix just throw a stock 212 coil on it.
Good video bro, have the same bike. Might just go the Same route, just don't like the rev limiter part. I thought that was the governor.
Nice video and bike 👍🏼
Thank you I appreciate that 🙏
The only problem I've found so far installing this on my bt200x is the intake manifold extension in the accessory kit makes the filter rub the rear tire
using the default black one is fine though? imlooking at doing the same thing shortly
@SecondSunofficial yea you can use the one in the kit if you slide the engine a bit or pull back the rear tire, with no rear suspension it has no way to contact but it will be pretty close
I’m not waiting 10 hrs🤣😂👍🏼.. You scored on that bike buddy..You’ll have a blast.. Finally finished mine in November ,ride it every weekend.. Great build. Nice neighborhood too. Digin all those tall green trees.Invest in a good helmet,protect your noodle..Greatings from CA✌🏼
Thanks man I appreciate that! I just moved from wa state to Florida and it’s beautiful here.
@@BryanSturman92where in Glorida?
@@lightworker4512 I’m in Jacksonville
Hey! What was the clutch you got with the set screws.?!?! Need one asap
Back in the ‘70s as a youngster I accidentally ran a few mini bikes up trees after starting them like that lol.
Hahah that’s awesome! 🤘
Nice video..👍
Thanx
What's the size of the fitting that screws into the oil fill for the pulse pump?
Where did you get the clutch chain and sprocket from?
What clutch did you put on? Is it a 3/4 for a #35 chain 10 tooth? Or is the chain #420
You need to run the muffler that header pipe was built and specs for peak performance. It want have all the torque that it should because it needs that muffler to hold the proper amount of back pressure. For as break in 1 hour tops if the rings don't seat in that time frame they never will.Also change the oil after break in. Next throw that clear line in the trash use either approved gas line or blue line.
Did that tank come with the predator kit you have there??
Awesome 👍🏼
Maybe you said it in the video and I missed it. Did you have to change your twist throttle and cable?
What clutch did you use for the ghost
Do you know where you bought the throttle cable
Got one for my 8 y/o this past December and the damn motor hops so much, it keeps throwing the chain!! I slid the motor up as far as it would go to tighten the chain and all it did was wear out the roller, then the chain from hitting the roller bolt! Im gonna either try some motor mount bushings or have a thicker plate welded on! I decided to buy online new in the box so i wouldn't have to mess with anything, because im lazy rather than marketplace to save a few hundo!
how did you get the valve cover set up?
Is this the same frame as a doodlebug db30? I didnt think that motor would clear the rear frame bar
What size throttle cable u use ?
Where did u get ur chain tensioner from ?
Nice!!!
Nice
to get rid of that rev limiter just take out the sprocket for the governor on the crank
For the brake in you don’t need to run it for 10hrs if you ride it with governor in your hood but if you take it out the brake in is 3 hrs with the governor in
This motor doesn’t have a governer. It’s too late I’ve been bouncing off limiter since day 1. We didn’t do a break in haha
@@BryanSturman92 I wouldn't worry about it. Just ride it hard and after 20 minutes or so of running change the oil. There's your break in.
We’re did you get that clutch
Put it on the cluch then put the chain on the sproket and then role it back
Can you get a different coil and bypass the 6000 rev limiter and if you do so is the rest of the engine capable of handing the excessive RPM besides probably needing a Flywheel to prevent It exploding on your leg LOL Would you need anything else besides that?
That motor is powerful with a tork converter get rid of the clutch.
Need a center stand for working on it.
What happened to break in, 6000 isn't breaking it in...Better check bearings after over reving motor. Rings never seated in, going to have blow bye. The piston probably egg shaped from excessive heat being new. I'm very familiar on the Predator 212 motor. And I always run a tank of 93 through the motor, and change oil before hammer it. Good luck on yours.
Bro it’s a couple hundred dollar harbor freight engine lol. It’s been running just fine to this day and we have beat the crap out of it. If it goes bad I’ll just snag another lol
It’s not that serious my man lol
hey man try swapping the rear sprocket for a 55-60 tooth youll get way better speed
i got a 212 hemi no governor pz22 racing spark plugs and exhaust it goes 41 and I'm 190... my stage 2 motor does 70 i think the ghost is a rip off you can do all the upgrades with the same 212 (reg) motor and a new carb... spend half and get the same results
Nice that’s cool. Yeah I’m aware this was just somethin quick to get a bike to ride around in the pits when I race
@@BryanSturman92 i understand fast upgrade from the first motor
You should have run the motor before it touched the frame or at least before it moved, to break it in.
It’s not that serious to me. Lol. It’s a cheapo motor going on a mini bike haha. If it’s failed just get another
I thought I was the only one who revs on start up hahahah I guess not 😂
Can I get a link to that clutch
Swap on a factory predator ign to move the rev lim
I start new set ups with front wheel touching a wall
Yeah lesson learned 😂
NIce!
could you send me this project, I would like to build one here in Brazil.
It would help if u kept the back wheel off the floor on a block of wood for the first time start up just in case things like that happen till u get it right, nice (mini bike) u got. My pit bike has gears, big front and rear suspension and big nobbly dirt bike tyres coz a pit bike is a smaller version of a dirt bike,motocross bike. 💯💯💯💯🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
A 15tooth max torque clutch with the stock 70tooth rear sprocket should get you around 60mph with that motor…
Yeah I just swapped over a 40 tooth and it goes 60. No need tk go that fast though it’s sketchy 😂
@@BryanSturman92 what size sprocket and what clutch did you use to get 60 ?
You don't need the fuel pump on a mini bike gravity feed is enuf
So dont mess with the idle screw, got it. Lol
It’s been year have your broken the engine in yet 😂
How can you make a mini bike fast
When is part 2
Buddy, the fuel pump is vacuum powered. You don’t need the fuel pump if the tank is above the engine. The tank is gravity fed which means it can go straight to the carb.
The 3/4 baur clutch 10 or 12 teeth
This is a 12tooth clutch
Brother why does your garage door have so many struts on it?!
This doesn’t have a rev limiter by the way, it revs 6500 and the valves begin to float.
You have to hold the brake! and sit on it. I know it's hard but you have to do it, or that happens.
I have a ghost on my professional racing gokart, literally no other four stroke can get near that kart on the track.
Built OVER 50 predator 212/ 10+ 224 bikes... 3hrs at idle..
broken in..
flip the clutch? or you can't. Engine dont move side to side?
Front to back
Was that the rear sprocket or a silver pizza??😅😅
PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHAT THROTTLE CABLE KIT U USED !! HAVING ISSUES FINDINGS A CABLE THATS LONG ENOUGH INTO CARB
This is just a universal kit from Amazon. It was JUST long enough to reach. Litterally maxed out and was perfect. Do you have the same setup?
@@BryanSturman92 yes same engine and kit. My bike frame is a Baja warrior bike tho so little bit bigger so length of cable would have to be about 50 In
What fuel do you use to get a 3 hp bike up to 31 mph, i have a stock coleman BT200x with 6 1/2 hp and top speed 25
It's not hard to remove the governor
How much?
Top speed ???
get you a torque converter
You should rotate the pull cord housing so the pull cord is facing backwards. You almost ran yourself over because you have to start it from the front of the bike.
Yeah I did that right after I made this video. I’ve done a few things I need to make another video on
can you put a 212 in my coleman rb100
Of course
sir how to order that predator engine? I'm frm Phillipines
Harborfreight.com
You can’t they don’t ship same to PI , just find Chinese 212 most likely same
Ghost is a 212 with a cam and higher rpm
If u didn't press the throttle it wouldn't have toke off u can hear u press it twice. The fine mixture screw is or should be set to 2/2 n half turns out anticlockwise and 4/3 n half turns out max anticlockwise it's used for fine fuel adjustment, so if u have to screw it IN clockwise nearly all the way in to get it to rev up you need a smaller main fuel jet and if u have to unscrew it more thn 3 n half to 4 turns out or more to get it to rev up u need a bigger fuel jet. So whn u have the right fuel jet u can use that mixture screw for fine fuel adjustments for a smaller adjustment to get it just right, if its 4 and abit turns out and it works good go one fuel jet size bigger and reset the mixture screw to 2 n half turns out,,,, always tune an engine whn its upto temperature not whn its cold. And although the idle screw is called a idle screw it's there to set how big of a gap there is whn the throttle is let off so it stays running most smallish carbies the gap shouldn't be bigger than 2mm (check google for your carbs settings) if it is it needs a bigger starting/choke jet, 💯💯👍👊
Fucking sweet e30 man.
Thanks dude
Neighbors ain't gonna have that too long.
Please don’t call the Ghost Engine a “fully built race engine”. It’s really not. That engine with the upgrade kit is $450. You can build a regular Predator 212cc with more HP, Torque, Higher RPM and more reliable for $450
With the fuel tank above the engine, you don't need a fuel pump!
Why didn’t you just move the tensioner back instead of taking a link out 😂
I had to take a link out and move the tensioner all the way back. The tensioner didn’t have enough travel by itself to take all the slack out. Wasn’t enough. Trust me if it was that simple I would have done that
Bro 40mph is good not garbage with the power and size of that bike i wouldn't want to go any faster 😅
10 minutes then ball to the ground 😂😂😂 break in.
You was going faster than 39 mph check it again
Need license?
For what?
Run a 5: 1 ratio. Top speed seems close to 63 without mods just the stock ghost 👻
(edit)_End is great! Responsive & great clutch. @02:20🧐. Super-Slow? When does the speeds value decrease from slow, blah⚠️ that's faster than any 6-9 yr old could ever pedal. Slow to you. gtg, there's always to'do. ✝️
You will burn that clutch up in no time if you climb some big hills 😂😂😂😂😂
Very easy to see he is not a mini bike guy
Yeah. I compete in drifting. This is out of my normal area. But better believe I’ll make it work!
Haha that’s good man still sick
You don't floor a bike..you pin it..😅😅😅😅
Should of added shims for the clutch, those allens screws on clutch will get loose.
I hqve a doodlebug db30 with 212. Has billey rod/flywheel, mod 2 cam. With a 12/70 it runs at 51 but launches hard. Now went bigger cam & going 15t clutch & just meed to port my cylinders heads & see how faster it runs.
Why is everybody going for these 212 get a 224 predator motor
12 more cc’s ain making a difference
Always remember, you brake it in how your gonna run it....
@ @yotehunter3468 I have been a mechanic for over 25 years and the funny thing is the only people that I ever hear making that statement are idiots who have no clue about engines, Because if you actually knew anything about engines you would realize how stupid that comment is!
It's a race engine so they claim... But yet it comes with a governor... 🤣
No it doesn’t. No governer on the ghost engine
It has a rev limiter
Its the same thing.. lol pretty much. The only difference is you have to buy a different ignition coil instead of just easily removing something
@ @gmane1989 They are not the same thing! A Perfect example of a governor would be on your lawnmower, A Governor allows the engine to maintain a constant RPM despite the engine being put under different clothes! A rev limiter is used to prevent an engine from going over a predetermined RPM! Your comment is why people should never go to UA-cam in order to learn how to do something! For the most part UA-cam is filled with a bunch of UA-camrs pretending to be mechanics, Actual mechanics are too busy working in a shop to make videos! Even when actual mechanics make a video do you really think that they divulge all the information needed to do the job in the video! But hey what do I know I only have 27 years under my belt working as an actual mechanic!