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Thank you for the video! I wish you had a version where you *only* touched the steering wheel when you absolutely need to take over. You seem to reflexively touch the steering wheel every ~10-15 seconds or so even when not interrupting the system to take over. Just makes it harder to actually see which are interventions or just soft touches that aren't doing anything.
Hi, thanks for the feedback. In my next Comma 3X video, I'll be sure to clearly announce whenever I am nudging the wheel to take control. Apologies that in this video it was not clear. Whenever I take momentary control, the Comma 3X screen outline turns from cyan to grey. If you look closely on this video, those are the instances you could consider interventions.
Hey! This lack of steering torque your Kia experienced on curves, would this also occur on all other "fully-supported'" cars as well? I'm planning on getting a 2019 Corolla Hatchback, do you think OpenPilot will lack torque on that car also, even though it's "fully supported"? also I heard that the neural network lateral controller option on SunnyPilot dramatically improves torque, has that been your experience as well?
Hi, the steering torque limit was only reached due to the speed I was traveling and the tightness of the curve. So it's dependent on driving speed and road geometry. Hyundai-Kia vehicles actually have some of the highest allowed steering torque values, and all the way down to 0 MPH. Different car makes will likely have different max torque values and also minimum speeds where active steering will work. However, as seen in this video, the steering torque limit is due to safety for being at the limit of going around a curve fast.
im confused i just saw a video on the kia ev6 driving to Taco Bell making full 90 degrees turns on its own and this video showing SunnyPilot ( supposed to be miles ahead of Openpilot) cant even do light curves on the highway? What am i missing? whatever they are running on the Taco bell Video that's what i want
The much showcased "Taco Bell drive" was using an experimental version of OpenPilot that has not been released yet. Also keep in mind the version demoed in the Taco Bell drive wouldn't allow manual speed/steering without a disengagement. The best thing about SunnyPilot is that it allows you to control the speed independently from the steering, which as I demonstrate in this video is good for mountain driving. The warnings about going too fast around a curve are a bit more proactive than stock OpenPilot since it is on you (the driver) to slow down. Keep in mind the system does not completely drop control. As in, if it is applying 20° of steering torque around a curve it will continue doing so even after the warning chime.
Comma 4 will likely not be coming until 2025 or 2026. Comma 3X was a significant change to the hardware and focused on reducing complexity and improving reliability and efficiency. New hardware would just continue that trend and maybe add a specific processor for machine learning/neural networks. But there really isn't any performance limit we are hitting with the current Comma 3X's hardware processor.
I drive a 23 Palisade Calligraphy and only attached a 1 lb wrist weight and I drive both hands and foot free until I need to make a stop and 90 degree Turn? I also find driving in the middle lane on 4 lane Highways and keeping the dashed line to my right, keeps me from having to make corrections!
With Comma 3X, you don't have to resort to attaching weights around the steering wheel and the screen lets you know if it has control or not. I wouldn't ever want to go back to the stock Hyundai-Kia lane follow assist system.
@@ArtiePenguin1I really want the Comma 3X but for some reason they don’t make it for the 23-24 Palisades yet? Maybe because it has a more advanced HDA2 or some other reason!
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Thank you for the video! I wish you had a version where you *only* touched the steering wheel when you absolutely need to take over. You seem to reflexively touch the steering wheel every ~10-15 seconds or so even when not interrupting the system to take over. Just makes it harder to actually see which are interventions or just soft touches that aren't doing anything.
Hi, thanks for the feedback. In my next Comma 3X video, I'll be sure to clearly announce whenever I am nudging the wheel to take control. Apologies that in this video it was not clear. Whenever I take momentary control, the Comma 3X screen outline turns from cyan to grey. If you look closely on this video, those are the instances you could consider interventions.
Nice to get a sense of how this works, thanks!
Glad it was helpful, thanks for watching! 😊
what camera are u using it's so gooddddd🎉🎉🎉
Thank you, I was using a GoPro Hero 10 for the front camera and a DJI Osmo Action 4 for the over the shoulder and Comma 3X inset.
@@ArtiePenguin1 Great video, keep it up!
Hey! This lack of steering torque your Kia experienced on curves, would this also occur on all other "fully-supported'" cars as well? I'm planning on getting a 2019 Corolla Hatchback, do you think OpenPilot will lack torque on that car also, even though it's "fully supported"? also I heard that the neural network lateral controller option on SunnyPilot dramatically improves torque, has that been your experience as well?
Hi, the steering torque limit was only reached due to the speed I was traveling and the tightness of the curve. So it's dependent on driving speed and road geometry. Hyundai-Kia vehicles actually have some of the highest allowed steering torque values, and all the way down to 0 MPH.
Different car makes will likely have different max torque values and also minimum speeds where active steering will work. However, as seen in this video, the steering torque limit is due to safety for being at the limit of going around a curve fast.
im confused i just saw a video on the kia ev6 driving to Taco Bell making full 90 degrees turns on its own and this video showing SunnyPilot ( supposed to be miles ahead of Openpilot) cant even do light curves on the highway?
What am i missing? whatever they are running on the Taco bell Video that's what i want
The much showcased "Taco Bell drive" was using an experimental version of OpenPilot that has not been released yet. Also keep in mind the version demoed in the Taco Bell drive wouldn't allow manual speed/steering without a disengagement.
The best thing about SunnyPilot is that it allows you to control the speed independently from the steering, which as I demonstrate in this video is good for mountain driving. The warnings about going too fast around a curve are a bit more proactive than stock OpenPilot since it is on you (the driver) to slow down. Keep in mind the system does not completely drop control. As in, if it is applying 20° of steering torque around a curve it will continue doing so even after the warning chime.
nice is this the newest version?
Hi, a newer driving model was released on July 1, 2024 - so this video shows the previous model to that.
@@ArtiePenguin1 nice is there any comma 4 in the way ?
@@ArtiePenguin1 or newer device you think they will lunch?
Comma 4 will likely not be coming until 2025 or 2026. Comma 3X was a significant change to the hardware and focused on reducing complexity and improving reliability and efficiency. New hardware would just continue that trend and maybe add a specific processor for machine learning/neural networks. But there really isn't any performance limit we are hitting with the current Comma 3X's hardware processor.
@@ArtiePenguin1 i wish you luck guys
How much of your view does the comma take up (assuming it’s below the rear view mirror)
It doesn't take up that much of your view, only about as much as if you had your phone or GPS unit mounted there.
@@ArtiePenguin1 thanks
Artie, what do you have attached to your steering wheel?
Hi, that is a remote to control the front camera
I drive a 23 Palisade Calligraphy and only attached a 1 lb wrist weight and I drive both hands and foot free until I need to make a stop and 90 degree Turn? I also find driving in the middle lane on 4 lane Highways and keeping the dashed line to my right, keeps me from having to make corrections!
With Comma 3X, you don't have to resort to attaching weights around the steering wheel and the screen lets you know if it has control or not. I wouldn't ever want to go back to the stock Hyundai-Kia lane follow assist system.
@@ArtiePenguin1I really want the Comma 3X but for some reason they don’t make it for the 23-24 Palisades yet? Maybe because it has a more advanced HDA2 or some other reason!
@@ElRobo1956 You should be able to select 2020-2022 Palisade and it should work fine.