@@peterlemke3468 Doesn't the A9II have a 20fps electronic shutter that is on par with the mechanical? Not sure what your point is here. The idea that mirror-less cameras are toys might have been legitimate 10 years ago but not now.
Without having picked up a 1DX iii I'm sure you can disable moving the af point with the AF-on button and asign the function to a dofferent button, which is what I'd do. I'm used to moving the points with the joystick.
Hi Chris, from what others have said (using the OVF focusing) - if you place an AF point on your subject to begin with, it locks on and won't let go, wherever that subject moves (as long as the subject remains within the AF points, obviously). I'm wondering if you're not used DSLR focusing systems any more, because in honesty, I can get better focusing results from an 80D than you showed with the 1DXiii and they're world's apart in focusing abilities. I shoot tons of bursts of joggers and cyclists and I don't get out of focus shots and sometimes they even momentarily disappear behind an object, but 8 have the camera set up to pause for a moment if the subject is lost. I bet you'll get great results once you have more time with the camera. Gordon Laing had no issues with the AF keeping up with formula 1 cars. The normal DSLR AF was far better at tracking fast moving cars than the DPAF.
That IS exactly how it works and it did try it's best to follow and track just as you describe it and it DID sometimes lose track. I have to reserve judgement until we have a full unit to play with and we will push it.
Ill keep rolling with my Pentax Spotmatic II. It has some features with which the 1DXIII cannot compete. I can use film with the Spotmatic. Thats a big plus for me as I only use film. The Spotmatic is M42 mount so I can use my vintage lenses without an adapter. What I love most about my Spotmatic is that it does not have a distracting LCD display. That saves on battery life. In fact, with my Spotmatic, I dont even need a battery to shoot. Just a few things that Canon can work on for the Mark IV.
The last couple of years I've always said that mirrorless will be the way to go - you don't have to be a prophet to see that - but it will take some time until they are able to replace the DSLR. I don't think that anymore. I think the 1DX3 could have been a mirrorless camera if only canon would have enough native glass yet. I also think it could be the last but one pro DSLR from Canon. The last beeing the 5D5. I myself have currently both systems at hand cuz I haven't sold any DSLR gear when giving the EOS R a try, but despite all the flaws of the EOS R I hardly find myself picking up one of my DSLRs. Even for action. The framerate might be crap, but the tracking, the eye AF and the keeper rate is awesome.
Thanks for your review. Why this 20mp sensor is producing better image quality than 5div 30p? Is really the quality upon sensor manufacturing and not quantity of mp?
Any answers to these two questions: - How is the rolling shutter? As bad a the EOS R or closer to C200/C500II? - Is there anyway to sync timecode through any of the ports? That's one of the best features of the S1H over the other mirrorless/dslr competition (and the reason it got Netflix approved, a long with the All-I 10-bit 422 4K).
I’m late to the party, but after watching this, I’m trying to decide between 1DX Mk3 and R5. I most shoot photos and not much video. I usually shoot events, so very dark places and people moving fast. With my 6Dii, 5 out of 10 shots are blurred & can’t use them. If money is not an issue, which one do u think is better?
Wait a minute - let me get this straight. Every time you scroll your thumb over the AF-ON button it changes the point of focus? On the 5D3, it only changes position if you hit the M-Fn button first. You're saying that with the 1DX3, you do not unlock the AF position first to then move the point of focus with the new toggle AF? That it is always unlocked?
Obviously a more capable camera here, just wanna mention Nikon Dslrs had face detection af in the viewfinder with the phase af module for some years now. Even jumping to the eyes if theyre big enough. Was pretty usable.
I think that a full frame DSLR with hybrid viewfinder will be a game changer camera...maybe this new Canon is the first step (I hope) to a future hybrid camera.
This is great. Not because I want this camera, but because it makes me pretty hopeful that Nikon will make a D860 along the same formula. Which would be *the* camera.
i was gonna upgrade from my 1dxii ONLY if the af points went further across the viewfinder. im releived i can sit on that cash now o well. checking back in 2024
Good job, the Canon representative told me on the Live View LCD mode you get 20 FPS vs 16 FPS thru view finder. This was during the CES 2020 in Las Vegas that just ended. This could be the most robust and durable of the pro camera that can shoot 20 FPS. Unfortunately no articulating screen and so when shooting in LCD Live View mode the camera could be a little awkward in a fast pace fashion shoot. The eye focusing is much better than the EOS-R but not quite Sony level, could be the new processor.
@@mallred4347 i'm sure you're just an ignorant EOS-R user, but the Canon representative confirmed that the new Digic X processor is indeed much faster in handling all manner of focus tracking on the Canon 1dx mkiii. The Eos-R was only meant to be semi-pro entry mirrorless camera and is about one third the price.
You can download any of the images from the sample gallery here: www.dpreview.com/samples/9651339217/canon-eos-1d-x-mark-iii-pre-production-sample-gallery-dpreview-tv Convert to B&W, bring it to your nearest printer, and enjoy! Jordan @ DPReview TV
Why all those videos mentions anything but the fact that it's still a damn 20mp camera? I know you guys are excited to be the chosen ones and in canon's good papers, I get it, I would love that too but come-on 4 years for that and for that price?
Same megapixels? ugh...so still shooters still need to wait for high mpixels!!. When is the next camera supposed to be announced out of the 4 to be released?
Don't need much more than 20 for sports. Plus less megapixels means larger actual pixels which means better low light / high iso performance thus better in badly lit or the need for high shutter speeds
@@neovo903 Ya...sorry, no $6499 going out for a few trick pony camera. Its beautiful, but not for me. If I got it free, I would have to sell it, and buy another camera. I do some light sports, not mainstream boring sports for franchises..
I love this channel. Such great presenters, lovely places to test the cameras, nice bit of humour here and there, a very friendly feel to the videos, up to date and comprehensive, concise information. You really have ticked just about every box for producing interesting and well presented videos. I think you need to give all of yourselves a big pat on the back and buy each other a beer!!
I ll just keep commenting this wherever I can. Mirrorless and advancements are great. An OVF is the only place we see the image as is. I can barely afford the 7D now and I am saving up to get bigger on my kit. Hope DSLRs remain.
outstanding video - first time i've heard anyone talking about the real improvements through the OVF (- most seemed focused on the EVF....er.. Live View changes... which isn't too important for my needs, though. So, that for being honest about the 1DX3 being improved in the OVF, but not big improvements - and that the strongest improvements are in the EVF.
Chris, HEIF does not necessarily mean the images are HDR. It's just an image format like any other but with better image compression and support for animation. You don't need special displays to view these files. HDR displays are meant for HDR video, which is a different standard entirely with different EOTF. It's not meant for images and images don't support this standard. This was wrong and misleading when you guys said it in the iPhone video and it is still wrong and misleading. The iPhone captures wider dynamic range by image stacking and the files are still standard dynamic range but using tone mapping to compress all the visual data into an SDR file. To Canon's credit, they are actually using the higher compression afforded by HEIF to increase bit depth to 10-bit and also capture wider dynamic range but these still aren't HDR. HDR is a video standard only.
If you display HEIF files on an HDR display (that is programmed to accept the file type), you will see additional highlight that an SDR cannot display. Sure, you can view HEIF files on an SDR display, and edit some of the highlight information back into the final image, but if you just shoot and playback on a compatible device, you will get an image with greater than SDR dynamic range. Also known as HDR.
@@thatjordandrake I just went through the whitepaper released by Canon for the camera and they indeed mention that the HEIF images from this camera use an HDR PQ for encoding the files with higher dynamic range that specifically require an HDR display to view, so I was wrong about that. I still don't think HEIF files from the iPhone do this, however.
Ok so I have watched a few of these video's on the 1DX Mk3....what strikes me is that why don't they have a hotshoe EVF like the M6 Mk2 that it uses so that you get all the benefits of live view focus but with a viewfinder.....I cant' believe I am the only one thinking this surely? Nobody buying a 1DX is going to be using it for on-camera flash unless you have more money than sense and a rank amateur! Either way, the masses who buy this are serious sports photographers and videographers and when was the last time you saw one of them with a flash? Oh actually I do remember, it was 1997 when they we still using rolls of film that took a maximum of 36 shots before you needed to reload! Love those days....!
Holy Smokes! It looks like it REALLY was cold in Calgary this past week (up to Jan 6, 2020) and it also looks like the NEW Canon 1Dx3 Camera CAN take the extreme Canadian Cold and some hard knocks! That bodes well for general sports/action use! The C-Log for 10-bit+ video is great for videographers and the Deep Learning autofocus is great for Sports/Action photographers. It looks like it has all the features people want in Ful Frame camera systems and the ONLY THING Canon NEEDS to do now for new hardware is to bring out a MEDIUM FORMAT MIRRORLESS Camera in the same body-style and having the same ruggedness and weather sealing as the 1Dx3 but with a 65mm 50+ megapixel SGLOBAL SHUTTER SENSOR shooting at 16-bits per colour channel (i.e. 48-bit RGBA/YCbCr pixels) with 30+ fps burst rate to dual CF-express cards AND having Super-Low-Light-Sensitivity for almost NO NOISE at ISO 12,800 to ISO 25,600 !!! THEN Canon would TRULY HAVE the ultimate PREMIUM MONSTER of a Medium Format Pro Sports/Action/Wildlife/Landscape camera! Have at it Canon! NOW bring us that 65mm Sensor MONSTER Medium Format Camera !!! .
@@djack41 I already shot 10.000 stills in a special event with one battery and not running out of power (1DXMII) Great times today, focus on shooting, not power or storage.
If you're not an hardcore sport pro photographer with humongous canon lenses there is no point in this camera. And if you can spend 10k $ for a full frame like that and your a videographer there is no point either because you can buy a bulky video cinema camera.
Battery 10.8V nominal (12.6V max 4.2V per cell), USB voltages 5V. It's easy to drop voltage and maintain a high current through the conversion, but not so much when boosting voltages. Typical lithium cell charge amperages is 500ma (slow) to 1A (fast), this maintains regardless of voltage of the battery pack as the pack for this is a 3 cell series battery pack. While it's technically possible to boost 5V up to 12V at 500ma to 1A, the circuitry is quite large for such a high current and it will produce substantial heat even at 500ma. many usb charge camera's either run on a single cell voltage (4.2v) or have a small battery that will charge in a few hours with just a couple of hundred milli amps (much smaller circuitry). Charging higher voltage packs with high capacity batteries via USB, not a good idea generally unless you have some specific kit that has an adequate boost converter for using with 2A+ power banks. They could probably add a small slow usb charger to these cameras, but then they'll be condemned as being too slow and virtually useless by reviewers as it'll take 14-18 hours to charge one 2700mah battery @~200ma.
@@peterebel7899 Sorry for the long reply but I'm trying to cover the bases as to why it's not really much of a benefit to have in camera usb charging in camera's like the 1DX due to the capacity of the batteries. Still requires a port capable of delivering 20V for 20V negotiation. This means that you cant just plug into any old usb port and have it work. A lot of phones have a USB-C data and charging, yet those still plug into usb type A chargers limited to 5V. You won't be able to use a phone charger with USB type C to charge your battery., still requires a separate charger. Sure it can be done with a type C wall charger designed for 20V (but isn't the point to get away from the wall), but it will require special power banks built to deliver 20V and not what most people are carrying around with them which are 5V. For comparison a 20V 4000Mah (@20V) 80WH battery pack is 600-650g and larger than most dual battery dual voltage (wall and car) chargers. You can plug a car charger into a solar panel, but for the 1DX battery you'd probably want a 12W panel per battery @1A (3 hour charge) or a 6W panel for 500ma (5-6 hour charge) making sure that the panel can output the correct voltage (20V regulated down), but that's more stuff to carry and those wattages even folded aren't pocket size. If you have to plug into the wall, then USB in camera charging is only a convenience for people who don't change their batteries (and don't carry spares) which is outside of the target market for this camera. The USB-C charge units are all the size of a 90W power brick (go figure?), just go look at the usb-c 60-100W chargers for size comparisons. USB type C charging doesn't solve the problem that the convenience of USB charging eliminates, which is the need to bring a wall socket charger unit when you're travelling. The solution for that is the ubiquitous 12V car charging units and swapping your batteries as required. Just plugging into your macbook and draining its battery power will leave your macbook without much left. The canon 1DX battery is 2700mah (30WH) and the macbook pro's battery is 100WH, doing the conversion you could maybe charge a battery three times theoretically (with perfect conversion) but realistically after 1 charge your macbook pro's battery will be down to 50% and you'll soon be looking for that wall to plug into. If you look at the current USB charging camera's their batteries are at biggest 7.2V (8.4) and 1025mah , converting to watt hours that's roughly 7.4WH or about 1/4 the capacity of the 2700Mah 10.8V 29.16WH 1DX battery most are half that (3.6V 1050mah 3.8WH) Oh and just for laughs, 20000Mah 20V power banks for your laptop, can't fully charge your selected laptop (100WH) as the 20000Mah is rated at 3.6V which gives you a total capacity of 72WH or 3600Mah@20V, which is 3/4 of that 16" macbook pro's capacity. Oh and for those paying attention, we can regulate the 20V output of those power banks to suit a 12V car charger and some of those chargers self regulate from 12-24V input. There's no ideal solution for usb charging such large capacity batteries away from the wall and at the wall the battery chargers are no bigger than what a USB charger would need to be.
@@magottyk Sorry, I even do not read all your words to the very end. - Buy an iPhone 11PRO, you get the 18W USB-C power adapter. Plug in Canon EOS R, the camera is fast charging the battery. I do it on a regular basis. - Buy any MacBook/Macbook PRO, you get a much more powerful USB power adapter. Plug in Canon EOS R, the camera is fast charging the battery. I do it on a regular basis. - Buy an iPad, you get .... I have all those Battery chargers all around, small, light, cheap. ALWAYS. EVERYWHERE Questions?
@@magottyk BTW: This is the miss of a huge selling point: With USB-C charging I would be able to travel around with one additional mirrorless body instead of the charger (size, weight). I think I will continue using the 1DXMII workhorse.
@@peterebel7899 You're using a wall charger, the canon usb charger is also a wall charger. Both those chargers are 5V or 9V and do not do 20V. These are custom jobs using USB type C plug @ 9V to fast charge a 7.2V (8.4V) battery at fast charge rates. 9V is not official USB type C spec, you could not charge a laptop with those, even slowly. Neither could charge up the 10.8V (12.6) 1DX battery. The battery in the EOS-R (LP-E6N) is 1850Mah @ 7.2V or 14WH or half the capacity of the 1DX Battery (LP-E19). The size of the USB charger is similar to that of the battery charger.
£6500 in UK... sorry but the 1dx2 was dam dam good, cant see many non-agency shooters upgrading, im sure they will place orders for 200 or more but the price is crazy and the smart money will be waiting or moving sony A9II....just saying..
Looks like a great camera. I am hoping that by the time a Mk iv 1dx comes out I will be able to afford a Mk ii. This camera will have to wait a few years after that! Meanwhile, I wonder when a 5d Mk v is coming out and what it will be looking like?
Anybody knows how viewfinder and live view is recorded here and in other camera review channels? Is it another camera with Macro or any close focusing lens?
Plz canon mke eos rp mk2...and put those bsi cmos sensor for good shadow details in low light and also no crop on 4k with c log and lastly a good fps speed..thats all i need...i dnt wnna switch to other brand...
Don't need much more than 20 for sports. Plus less megapixels means larger actual pixels which means better low light / high iso performance thus better in badly lit or the need for high shutter speeds. Don't need an insane amount of megapixels anyway.
Are we just gonna ignore that S1H footage? Damn it's nice!
Thanks for noticing it too
If this video was filmed on the S1H, absolutely, it looks magnificent!
Yes, that dynamic range is pretty darn good
It's the only small camera approved to make movies for Netflix films.
Richard's World Traveler Is that so
Photographers are going to have a ball at the Olympics with the Canon 1DX Mark III, Sony A9II and Nikon D6.
Let's hope its a really wet Olympics. Then we can see how waterproof those bodies really are.
Peter Lemke Pretty much on par with the Mk II if not better
@@malikkelly Yep expect that same goes for the D6 when it arrives. Not sooo sure about the A9 Mark ll.
@@peterlemke3468 Doesn't the A9II have a 20fps electronic shutter that is on par with the mechanical? Not sure what your point is here. The idea that mirror-less cameras are toys might have been legitimate 10 years ago but not now.
and the Sony A7RIV!
Jordan was purposely shooting the s1h in challenging lighting conditions and pulled it off every time I see.
Crying Jordan on a sled please. Legitimate test of the deep buffer.
That intro is gold my friend!
Interesting BB focus button design. It seems like it could easily be bumped though.
It is easy to bump. I found myself often tripping it.
the BB focus nipple is extra sensitive
Heck yeah! In 10 years I hope it'll be $600 like my Mark IV. Boy, I wish...
Where have you seen a markiv for $600
Are you high?
Please tell me where you can find a $600 Mark IV, I genuinely want to know lol. Unless in your country 600 is worth a shit ton.
I think he is talking about the 1D mark IV not the 5d mark IV ;-)
@@MartinMichiels well that's definitely much older lol
Thanks for the preview of 1dxIII. After seeing the video, I am tilted more towards Panasonic S1H.
Without having picked up a 1DX iii I'm sure you can disable moving the af point with the AF-on button and asign the function to a dofferent button, which is what I'd do. I'm used to moving the points with the joystick.
Cool camera. I'm glad it's coming and I'm excited to see how this leads for the rest of Canon's lineup.
huh it's a $6k brick that's been over taking by much much lighter cameras a9 mark2 comes to mind
@@phillippugh2161 I want a big brick. My sony a7r3 is too small. Its like a toy and its hard to front up to a client with something so small.
Hi Chris, from what others have said (using the OVF focusing) - if you place an AF point on your subject to begin with, it locks on and won't let go, wherever that subject moves (as long as the subject remains within the AF points, obviously).
I'm wondering if you're not used DSLR focusing systems any more, because in honesty, I can get better focusing results from an 80D than you showed with the 1DXiii and they're world's apart in focusing abilities. I shoot tons of bursts of joggers and cyclists and I don't get out of focus shots and sometimes they even momentarily disappear behind an object, but 8 have the camera set up to pause for a moment if the subject is lost. I bet you'll get great results once you have more time with the camera. Gordon Laing had no issues with the AF keeping up with formula 1 cars. The normal DSLR AF was far better at tracking fast moving cars than the DPAF.
That IS exactly how it works and it did try it's best to follow and track just as you describe it and it DID sometimes lose track. I have to reserve judgement until we have a full unit to play with and we will push it.
This is great for the Canon people no doubt, but all I see is a video ad for the Panasonic S1H.
Love the video quality Jordan!
Ill keep rolling with my Pentax Spotmatic II. It has some features with which the 1DXIII cannot compete. I can use film with the Spotmatic. Thats a big plus for me as I only use film. The Spotmatic is M42 mount so I can use my vintage lenses without an adapter. What I love most about my Spotmatic is that it does not have a distracting LCD display. That saves on battery life. In fact, with my Spotmatic, I dont even need a battery to shoot. Just a few things that Canon can work on for the Mark IV.
The joke already old and not funny. Too unfunny infact, that news about the death of Kodachrome is more funnier than this.
@@kennyyuliandrika7162 What happened to Kodachrome? Is it in trouble financially?
Amazing. Peter McKinnon couldn't even take it outside Canon HQ Canada and yours gets shipped?
philaw123 Same Thing I’m saying, howw
The power of Amazon :D
wrr
I dont understand this haha
because dpreview is a store so that is their testing camera.
peter is a photographer.
The last couple of years I've always said that mirrorless will be the way to go - you don't have to be a prophet to see that - but it will take some time until they are able to replace the DSLR. I don't think that anymore. I think the 1DX3 could have been a mirrorless camera if only canon would have enough native glass yet. I also think it could be the last but one pro DSLR from Canon. The last beeing the 5D5.
I myself have currently both systems at hand cuz I haven't sold any DSLR gear when giving the EOS R a try, but despite all the flaws of the EOS R I hardly find myself picking up one of my DSLRs. Even for action. The framerate might be crap, but the tracking, the eye AF and the keeper rate is awesome.
Thanks for your review. Why this 20mp sensor is producing better image quality than 5div 30p? Is really the quality upon sensor manufacturing and not quantity of mp?
can't wait for the video section.
Best intro ever !!!!
Out Even better
wrg
That 4 cylinder at 10:23
This is like a home maker who drives the kids in a mini van to soccer games doing reviews on a Ferrari 488 Pista or Porsche 911 GT3 RS.
Any answers to these two questions:
- How is the rolling shutter? As bad a the EOS R or closer to C200/C500II?
- Is there anyway to sync timecode through any of the ports? That's one of the best features of the S1H over the other mirrorless/dslr competition (and the reason it got Netflix approved, a long with the All-I 10-bit 422 4K).
I’m late to the party, but after watching this, I’m trying to decide between 1DX Mk3 and R5. I most shoot photos and not much video. I usually shoot events, so very dark places and people moving fast. With my 6Dii, 5 out of 10 shots are blurred & can’t use them. If money is not an issue, which one do u think is better?
Wait a minute - let me get this straight. Every time you scroll your thumb over the AF-ON button it changes the point of focus? On the 5D3, it only changes position if you hit the M-Fn button first. You're saying that with the 1DX3, you do not unlock the AF position first to then move the point of focus with the new toggle AF? That it is always unlocked?
Waiting on the EOS R Pro but, this camera is definitely interesting. Thank you for sharing
Creator's Journey eos R5
Silent mode mean TOTALLY soundless like sony or again "clicky" but quieter?
Whenever i look at your videos it’s almost like when I open my 15 yr old Macallan smooth. Great video and commentary as always.
Obviously a more capable camera here, just wanna mention Nikon Dslrs had face detection af in the viewfinder with the phase af module for some years now. Even jumping to the eyes if theyre big enough. Was pretty usable.
I had an early hands on experience with it as well! Would love to know the price point. It's made me fall in love with the 1DX series again.
$6,499.00
@@ahmedawad563 $8,999 in Canuck bucks
@@WhiskyCanuck Yep
The perfect travel camera for you Matthew lol. Keep eating your weeties and pumping that iron.
I think that a full frame DSLR with hybrid viewfinder will be a game changer camera...maybe this new Canon is the first step (I hope) to a future hybrid camera.
That would be amazing!!
This is great. Not because I want this camera, but because it makes me pretty hopeful that Nikon will make a D860 along the same formula. Which would be *the* camera.
i was gonna upgrade from my 1dxii ONLY if the af points went further across the viewfinder. im releived i can sit on that cash now o well. checking back in 2024
is it mirrorless. sucks when i have to review photos in bright sunlight and cannot see the screen. so it's mirrorless..looks at pics via EVF..right.
Good job, the Canon representative told me on the Live View LCD mode you get 20 FPS vs 16 FPS thru view finder. This was during the CES 2020 in Las Vegas that just ended. This could be the most robust and durable of the pro camera that can shoot 20 FPS. Unfortunately no articulating screen and so when shooting in LCD Live View mode the camera could be a little awkward in a fast pace fashion shoot. The eye focusing is much better than the EOS-R but not quite Sony level, could be the new processor.
You don't know/can't say the eye AF is better than the EOS-R. You haven't a clue.
@@mallred4347 i'm sure you're just an ignorant EOS-R user, but the Canon representative confirmed that the new Digic X processor is indeed much faster in handling all manner of focus tracking on the Canon 1dx mkiii. The Eos-R was only meant to be semi-pro entry mirrorless camera and is about one third the price.
Chris, you explain things very well. Thank you :-)
I appreciate that!
Nikon D6, Canon 1DX mark III and Sony a9 II were launched for the Tokyo Olympics which will be canceled or postponed for 2021.
Nice to see Liam making an appearance , that boy is a star in the making watch out guys :-}
I would like to place an order for the "Crying Jordan on a sled" and can it be in black and white please?
You can download any of the images from the sample gallery here:
www.dpreview.com/samples/9651339217/canon-eos-1d-x-mark-iii-pre-production-sample-gallery-dpreview-tv
Convert to B&W, bring it to your nearest printer, and enjoy!
Jordan @ DPReview TV
@@dpreview This will be my center piece! 🤣
Why all those videos mentions anything but the fact that it's still a damn 20mp camera? I know you guys are excited to be the chosen ones and in canon's good papers, I get it, I would love that too but come-on 4 years for that and for that price?
Fantastic review as usual.Your demo images are incredible!
I have the feeling DPReview never has a chance to review the Nikon D6?
No mention of the 1000 raw files buffer? if you shoot sport that is freaking amazing.
and 20fps with AF
Question: Couldn't the Smart Controller inadvertently move your focus point when you use back button focus?
Is it a 20 megapixel because we're in 2020?
My thoughts exactly...
No it's for low light iso
Idon't know why I am watching this
I still using my canon 1200D💔
You can get a 3 way aftermarket charger on eBay. I have one. It uses either AC, DC, or USB power sources to charge.
Same megapixels? ugh...so still shooters still need to wait for high mpixels!!. When is the next camera supposed to be announced out of the 4 to be released?
Don't need much more than 20 for sports. Plus less megapixels means larger actual pixels which means better low light / high iso performance thus better in badly lit or the need for high shutter speeds
@@neovo903 Ya...sorry, no $6499 going out for a few trick pony camera. Its beautiful, but not for me. If I got it free, I would have to sell it, and buy another camera. I do some light sports, not mainstream boring sports for franchises..
I love this channel. Such great presenters, lovely places to test the cameras, nice bit of humour here and there, a very friendly feel to the videos, up to date and comprehensive, concise information. You really have ticked just about every box for producing interesting and well presented videos. I think you need to give all of yourselves a big pat on the back and buy each other a beer!!
Great review guys! I can't wait to get my hands on it!
I ll just keep commenting this wherever I can. Mirrorless and advancements are great. An OVF is the only place we see the image as is. I can barely afford the 7D now and I am saving up to get bigger on my kit. Hope DSLRs remain.
Did you edit your footage for this video
It looks amazing
Even Peter wasn't allowed to take out the camera. Lol!
Larry Chen had it for 5 days shooting cars
Why not using BPG instead of HEIF? BPG produce a lot smaller file than HEIF.
Heo DDPReview, How did you manage to get a sample version of this camera.
Please in the review test the two AF systems In low light also to see which one is better, thank you Chris :)
I paid $284 for a 1 gig Lexar CF card back in 2003 so buying a 64gig CFexpress card for $150 seems to me a very good bargain. Nice review.
outstanding video - first time i've heard anyone talking about the real improvements through the OVF (- most seemed focused on the EVF....er.. Live View changes... which isn't too important for my needs, though. So, that for being honest about the 1DX3 being improved in the OVF, but not big improvements - and that the strongest improvements are in the EVF.
Chris, HEIF does not necessarily mean the images are HDR. It's just an image format like any other but with better image compression and support for animation. You don't need special displays to view these files. HDR displays are meant for HDR video, which is a different standard entirely with different EOTF. It's not meant for images and images don't support this standard. This was wrong and misleading when you guys said it in the iPhone video and it is still wrong and misleading. The iPhone captures wider dynamic range by image stacking and the files are still standard dynamic range but using tone mapping to compress all the visual data into an SDR file.
To Canon's credit, they are actually using the higher compression afforded by HEIF to increase bit depth to 10-bit and also capture wider dynamic range but these still aren't HDR. HDR is a video standard only.
If you display HEIF files on an HDR display (that is programmed to accept the file type), you will see additional highlight that an SDR cannot display. Sure, you can view HEIF files on an SDR display, and edit some of the highlight information back into the final image, but if you just shoot and playback on a compatible device, you will get an image with greater than SDR dynamic range. Also known as HDR.
@@thatjordandrake I just went through the whitepaper released by Canon for the camera and they indeed mention that the HEIF images from this camera use an HDR PQ for encoding the files with higher dynamic range that specifically require an HDR display to view, so I was wrong about that. I still don't think HEIF files from the iPhone do this, however.
beast of a camera with a beast of a price tag
Crescent heights, center st bridge, 6 ave, brookfield place. Do I win the camera?
5d5 coming soon?
Finally they have released a new 1dx. Cant wait for the new eos R
The opening was Oscar nominee level😂😂😂
True bro.
$6,500 USD... cough, cough.
1DX II was $6k originally, it's not bad for one of the best photography cameras ever made and great video specs.
How long will it take before HEIF files be compatible across all devices? HEIF files will have to be converted to jpeg after editing.
Soso Melodies 12 years
I'm guessing sensor and processor from this is gonna become a EOS RH.
Ok so I have watched a few of these video's on the 1DX Mk3....what strikes me is that why don't they have a hotshoe EVF like the M6 Mk2 that it uses so that you get all the benefits of live view focus but with a viewfinder.....I cant' believe I am the only one thinking this surely? Nobody buying a 1DX is going to be using it for on-camera flash unless you have more money than sense and a rank amateur! Either way, the masses who buy this are serious sports photographers and videographers and when was the last time you saw one of them with a flash? Oh actually I do remember, it was 1997 when they we still using rolls of film that took a maximum of 36 shots before you needed to reload! Love those days....!
Great idea with the af on button, if that can be sensitivity adjusted it could be excellent.
I agree. But I could also see some missed shots accidentally changing focus point until you get used to it.
That opening scene was priceless
this looks great..now i am more confused which one to buy, the M50 or this.. :(
For real? 😄
Holy Smokes! It looks like it REALLY was cold in Calgary this past week (up to Jan 6, 2020) and it also looks like the NEW Canon 1Dx3 Camera CAN take the extreme Canadian Cold and some hard knocks! That bodes well for general sports/action use! The C-Log for 10-bit+ video is great for videographers and the Deep Learning autofocus is great for Sports/Action photographers.
It looks like it has all the features people want in Ful Frame camera systems and the ONLY THING Canon NEEDS to do now for new hardware is to bring out a MEDIUM FORMAT MIRRORLESS Camera in the same body-style and having the same ruggedness and weather sealing as the 1Dx3 but with a 65mm 50+ megapixel SGLOBAL SHUTTER SENSOR shooting at 16-bits per colour channel (i.e. 48-bit RGBA/YCbCr pixels) with 30+ fps burst rate to dual CF-express cards AND having Super-Low-Light-Sensitivity for almost NO NOISE at ISO 12,800 to ISO 25,600 !!!
THEN Canon would TRULY HAVE the ultimate PREMIUM MONSTER of a Medium Format Pro Sports/Action/Wildlife/Landscape camera!
Have at it Canon!
NOW bring us that 65mm Sensor MONSTER Medium Format Camera !!!
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No USB-C charging on a new camera for 2020 is disappointing, especially on a pro camera like this.
Wow. Battery life is phenomenal. USB charging is a non-issue for me.
It's not a MILC, did you have a look at the battery ??
a downer ? yeah, disappointing ? that may be a little bit too much.
Canon claims this camera has twice the battery life of the 1DX2 and will shoot 2800 stills per charge. Pretty awesome.
@@djack41 I already shot 10.000 stills in a special event with one battery and not running out of power (1DXMII)
Great times today, focus on shooting, not power or storage.
Is there [FACE ONLY] mode for autofocus in video like in the C200?
When Canon will dump that mirror?
They should have implemented a hybrid viewfinder OVF/EVF ala the Fujifilm Pro series.
Does it record or exit to SSD disc?
If you're not an hardcore sport pro photographer with humongous canon lenses there is no point in this camera. And if you can spend 10k $ for a full frame like that and your a videographer there is no point either because you can buy a bulky video cinema camera.
1dx mk3 or Eos R?
Battery 10.8V nominal (12.6V max 4.2V per cell), USB voltages 5V.
It's easy to drop voltage and maintain a high current through the conversion, but not so much when boosting voltages.
Typical lithium cell charge amperages is 500ma (slow) to 1A (fast), this maintains regardless of voltage of the battery pack as the pack for this is a 3 cell series battery pack.
While it's technically possible to boost 5V up to 12V at 500ma to 1A, the circuitry is quite large for such a high current and it will produce substantial heat even at 500ma. many usb charge camera's either run on a single cell voltage (4.2v) or have a small battery that will charge in a few hours with just a couple of hundred milli amps (much smaller circuitry).
Charging higher voltage packs with high capacity batteries via USB, not a good idea generally unless you have some specific kit that has an adequate boost converter for using with 2A+ power banks.
They could probably add a small slow usb charger to these cameras, but then they'll be condemned as being too slow and virtually useless by reviewers as it'll take 14-18 hours to charge one 2700mah battery @~200ma.
Ever heard about USB-C?
Charging with up to 20V. Up to 100W
Good enough for fast charging of a MacBook Pro 16".
@@peterebel7899
Sorry for the long reply but I'm trying to cover the bases as to why it's not really much of a benefit to have in camera usb charging in camera's like the 1DX due to the capacity of the batteries.
Still requires a port capable of delivering 20V for 20V negotiation.
This means that you cant just plug into any old usb port and have it work.
A lot of phones have a USB-C data and charging, yet those still plug into usb type A chargers limited to 5V. You won't be able to use a phone charger with USB type C to charge your battery., still requires a separate charger.
Sure it can be done with a type C wall charger designed for 20V (but isn't the point to get away from the wall), but it will require special power banks built to deliver 20V and not what most people are carrying around with them which are 5V. For comparison a 20V 4000Mah (@20V) 80WH battery pack is 600-650g and larger than most dual battery dual voltage (wall and car) chargers. You can plug a car charger into a solar panel, but for the 1DX battery you'd probably want a 12W panel per battery @1A (3 hour charge) or a 6W panel for 500ma (5-6 hour charge) making sure that the panel can output the correct voltage (20V regulated down), but that's more stuff to carry and those wattages even folded aren't pocket size.
If you have to plug into the wall, then USB in camera charging is only a convenience for people who don't change their batteries (and don't carry spares) which is outside of the target market for this camera. The USB-C charge units are all the size of a 90W power brick (go figure?), just go look at the usb-c 60-100W chargers for size comparisons. USB type C charging doesn't solve the problem that the convenience of USB charging eliminates, which is the need to bring a wall socket charger unit when you're travelling. The solution for that is the ubiquitous 12V car charging units and swapping your batteries as required.
Just plugging into your macbook and draining its battery power will leave your macbook without much left. The canon 1DX battery is 2700mah (30WH) and the macbook pro's battery is 100WH, doing the conversion you could maybe charge a battery three times theoretically (with perfect conversion) but realistically after 1 charge your macbook pro's battery will be down to 50% and you'll soon be looking for that wall to plug into.
If you look at the current USB charging camera's their batteries are at biggest 7.2V (8.4) and 1025mah , converting to watt hours that's roughly 7.4WH or about 1/4 the capacity of the 2700Mah 10.8V 29.16WH 1DX battery most are half that (3.6V 1050mah 3.8WH)
Oh and just for laughs, 20000Mah 20V power banks for your laptop, can't fully charge your selected laptop (100WH) as the 20000Mah is rated at 3.6V which gives you a total capacity of 72WH or 3600Mah@20V, which is 3/4 of that 16" macbook pro's capacity. Oh and for those paying attention, we can regulate the 20V output of those power banks to suit a 12V car charger and some of those chargers self regulate from 12-24V input.
There's no ideal solution for usb charging such large capacity batteries away from the wall and at the wall the battery chargers are no bigger than what a USB charger would need to be.
@@magottyk Sorry, I even do not read all your words to the very end.
- Buy an iPhone 11PRO, you get the 18W USB-C power adapter. Plug in Canon EOS R, the camera is fast charging the battery. I do it on a regular basis.
- Buy any MacBook/Macbook PRO, you get a much more powerful USB power adapter. Plug in Canon EOS R, the camera is fast charging the battery. I do it on a regular basis.
- Buy an iPad, you get ....
I have all those Battery chargers all around, small, light, cheap. ALWAYS. EVERYWHERE
Questions?
@@magottyk BTW:
This is the miss of a huge selling point:
With USB-C charging I would be able to travel around with one additional mirrorless body instead of the charger (size, weight).
I think I will continue using the 1DXMII workhorse.
@@peterebel7899
You're using a wall charger, the canon usb charger is also a wall charger.
Both those chargers are 5V or 9V and do not do 20V.
These are custom jobs using USB type C plug @ 9V to fast charge a 7.2V (8.4V) battery at fast charge rates.
9V is not official USB type C spec, you could not charge a laptop with those, even slowly.
Neither could charge up the 10.8V (12.6) 1DX battery.
The battery in the EOS-R (LP-E6N) is 1850Mah @ 7.2V or 14WH or half the capacity of the 1DX Battery (LP-E19).
The size of the USB charger is similar to that of the battery charger.
£6500 in UK... sorry but the 1dx2 was dam dam good, cant see many non-agency shooters upgrading, im sure they will place orders for 200 or more but the price is crazy and the smart money will be waiting or moving sony A9II....just saying..
how it feels to hold up that 200lb camera above your head?
Looks like a great camera. I am hoping that by the time a Mk iv 1dx comes out I will be able to afford a Mk ii. This camera will have to wait a few years after that! Meanwhile, I wonder when a 5d Mk v is coming out and what it will be looking like?
Anybody knows how viewfinder and live view is recorded here and in other camera review channels? Is it another camera with Macro or any close focusing lens?
Return of the KING
What about the dynamic range!?
Impressive, one of the first hands on
Great review!
To summarize, though Chris would have trouble saying it, beats anything Nikon has now or on the horizon.
Thank for the video. charging via usb is a risk. electronic surge can kill a camera board.
What's the record limit? Agains 29 minutes?
Looks like it.
Interesting to see what Sony and Nikon answer with their A9II and D6!
still waiting for the review?
Any news on DPAF in 4K?
Plz canon mke eos rp mk2...and put those bsi cmos sensor for good shadow details in low light and also no crop on 4k with c log and lastly a good fps speed..thats all i need...i dnt wnna switch to other brand...
Battery is 10.8v I believe, USB ports are normally output 5v.....
This will be the best hybrid camera of all time
why transfer data through usb-c slow? how ?
waiting for the EOS Rs!
Let me see your Rs!
Good initial look 👍
Oh boi, I can’t wait to see this camera at the 2020 olympics
20MP? Are we back in the 90s?
No one cares about high megapixel, but if you do,. That means your amateur,.
Oh yes of course. Only amateurs care for megapixels. And IBIS. And Eye-AF.
Those are only for those who don't know how to shoot.
Don't need much more than 20 for sports. Plus less megapixels means larger actual pixels which means better low light / high iso performance thus better in badly lit or the need for high shutter speeds.
Don't need an insane amount of megapixels anyway.